The King that never wore the crown | Tywin Lannister | Game of Thrones
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- A tribute to Tywin Lannister, the man who raised House Lannister from scratch, created the most powerful dynasty and legacy. He's a great character and the most powerful man in Westeros, and that's why the Lannister are so powerful, but the Lannister's power died with him in a toilet.
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Tywin was one of those rare men who knew there is a fundamental difference between being a King and being a Ruler.
Wait, how so? Is a King not a Ruler? 🤔
@@thalmoragent9344 King is a political position, Ruler is a man holds power over the realm. A King usually is also a Ruler but when a King have no real power then he is not a Ruler.
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Ah, I see. So a true Ruler can be anyone, and a King may or may not be a true Ruler, such was the case with Joffery
Titles mean little unless you live up to the name, essentially?
@@thalmoragent9344 In the same way Elizabeth II reigns as Queen of the United Kingdom -but does not rule it.
@@1101millie97
Well, she arguably does rule some of it, but yeah I see your point, I appreciate the clarification 👍🏾
All Tywin wanted was a heir with Jamie swordsmanship, Tyrion wisedom, and Cerceis ruthlessness
That's what bothered him so much, all of his children had 1 of his top 3 qualities but not all 3.
Ruthlessness is a double-edge sword!!! In fact, Cersei wasn't entirely wrong when she trust herself to be her father with tits, because she inherited all Tywin's flaws: pride, narcissism, hypocrisy and ambition.
@@anaemiliaalmeida7238 She just had too much of them without the ability to back them up that he had. Pride is fine when justified by ability and tempered by cunning or wisdom or both. Narcissism has few claims for it but I'm not sure Tywin or even Cersei really had that. Hypocrisy, I can't decide how much to charge either with it, but it's a valid tool of politics, when used with skill. Ambition is praiseworthy, if you have what it takes.
Maybe if they all worked together it could have worked, but they bickered
@@MrMasterDebate They wont work together because Tywin and Ceresei both blame Tyrion for the death of their wife/mother
Tywin was the perfect example of a great man not always being a good man
I actually don't think he was necessarily a bad man aside from how he treated tyrion
@@paullong5208 He was extremely brutal even with innocent civilians. He wiped out the entire Reyne family just for not paying taxes and plotted the Red Wedding amongst many other despicable acts
@@purpledragons1146 I mean he killed a family with whom his family was in open war against. It may have been underhanded and cruel, but given the circumstances, he did what was necessary to win. Also, he killed an openly disobedient family, in a very similar way to Jon Snow killing Janos Slynt
@@paullong5208 He was in open war with the Starks but arranging their murder at a wedding and the murder of a pregnant woman is very cruel. He murdered the Reyne's who if I remember correctly were just avoiding paying taxes. He betrayed his king and massacred a city full of defenseless civilians. He was also a shit father and only viewed his children as heirs. Tywin was what I would consider a bad man
@@purpledragons1146 It’s like Cersei said. Tywin was so concerned with his family, or more specifically, its legacy, than with his actual family. Everything Tywin did was to secure the Lannister reputation. Also, the Reynes refused to repay loans (or taxes, doesn’t matter) that Tywin’s father gave to them, and they rose up in revolt when Tywin pressed the issue. So the Lannisters were actively fighting a rebellion against the Reynes. Did Tywin have to wipe out an entire family to ensure the Lannisters’ reputation? Probably not, but it made the job much easier. Now, the Rains of Castemere song acts as a reminder to anyone who stands against them.
"The show died with Tywin". Too true a statement.
It's a shame but it wasn't just the show, it was the books too. A storm of swords (seasons 3 and 4) was george r martin's masterpiece and anything after that felt convoluted and a little clueless. A feast of crows and a dance with dragons were good books but not as amazing as the first three and it's not just because of tywin's absence.
@@josenavarro1054 Because of the absence of any competent rulers in Kings Landing because Kevan refused to be a part of Cersei's foolishness and so that location is no longer a matter of intrigue but just waiting for WHEN she's f**ks up?
Or do you mean because Jaime's character, prior to heading to the Riverlands, seems to be just wallowing in pity which not much interesting happening around him?
@@josenavarro1054 I really don’t think the books went downhill after ASOS. They have a ton of interesting concepts/plots that will be explored more in the next book (if it ever comes out lol)
@@sardonically-inclined7645 I actually liked the cersei pov, but the pacing of the last two books was very flawed and several minor plotlines were really uninteresting to me to be honest. Draging the story that much doesn't do favors to george r. martin's narrative pacing in my opinion
@@erish1005 I'm not saying there weren't interesting concepts, I think they are good books but the pacing is really all over the place and many of the minor stories and characters were not as interesting in comparison to the first three books. That hurts the overall narrative, along with the increasing presence of the fantastical elements of the story which in my opinion are not the strongest suit of his story.
Realization the show went downhill when he died Tywin really was the best character who contributed so much to the history of Westeros
after season 4 it went downhill
@@sylvard1459 imma post season 6 guy myself, but it did go downhill.
@@trollwayy5981 I would say post season 6 it was terrible but it started going down earlier than that.
@@petrkinkal1509 Yeah I think it went downhill immediately after 6 but I thoroughly enjoyed 1-6
Season 6 was garbage season 7 was a crap, season 8 was a dumpster fire. Anyone enjoying those seasons never appreciated what made the show great seasons 1-4
True...even though Tywin never became king he held more power, influence, and authority than the one with the crown
Charles Dance and Diana Rigg have been the best characters in the whole show.
Up till season 4 no, after? Sure
And ofcourse Sean Bean
I think one of the greatest tragedies that may happen in the books is of Tywin's life work. Every action he took, from his careful and effective ruling of a continent for decades, every ruthless deed, every line crossed, every letter written, every war and battle fought; every sacrifice Tywin made throughout his life of his own happiness (if he had any bit left after the death of his precious Joanna) and that of others in the pursuit of securing his heir and House Lannister's dominance of the realm will have been for nothing.
Oh please tywin is a great charecter but in terms of greatest tragedies that's definitely the Starks specifically the red wedding
@@blackfyre3149 Really only because the books and series start out and are told through the eyes of Starks as protagonists.
@@LordTywinLannistertheBased bro come on. While every other house is out for power the Starks just wanna serve their people. Maybe some others had a worse death but what makes it tragic for the Starks is that they were the most honest and good charecters
@@blackfyre3149 Again, only because you are made to see it through the eyes of Starks.
@@LordTywinLannistertheBased THEY LITERALLY ADMIT IT BRO. TYWIN KEEPS SAYING ALL HE CARES ABOUT IS MAKING HIS FAMILY STRONGER SO DO PEOPLE LIKE OLENNA WHILE NED STARK SERVES HIS PEOPLE COME ON. SHOW ME ONE INSTANCE WHERE STARKS ARE ACTING GREEDY OR SOMETHING
If he were the king and not those incompetent bastards the whole realm would prosper just like Casterly Rock
He still would’ve been killed
@@thefisherman0074 everyone dies at somepoint, the way he died would probably be quite different
Casterly Rock was not only bankrupt but maaaassively in debt to the Bank of Braavos that is notorious for financing the enemies of its defaulted debtors. Tywin couldn't keep control over his family, he couldn't control Robert Baratheon, he couldn't beat a boy king without granting enormous concessions to one of the least trustworthy houses in the realm so that they might assassinate him, he failed to recognise Danerys as a threat, he couldn't stop Olenna from assassinating Jeoffrey, he held onto power through nothing but fear and lies the weakness of which unravelled everything as soon as he wasn’t there to perpetuate them.
@@zuuzuuka People think Tywin is a genius because he says some cool stuff every now and then but he was really pretty dumb in many ways
@Anjelica Snorcket I really need to read the books
Strategically, he wanted his son Jaime to inherit Casterly Rock, Jaime can then continue the bloodline of the family and the legacy of his father, but the man's got no interest and goes on rebelling against his plans.
Cersei's marriage to Robert was indeed beneficial to the Lannister Family, and could be more if she pushed the marriage between her and Loras, creating another Lannister blood that would dominate the Reach. But, Cersei refused.
And Tyrion, if his marriage to Sansa was consummated, the Lannister family would have also domination over the north, which would bring the Riverlands and the Vale (of whom which Sansa has blood ties) to the crown's fold, under Lannister blood.
Tywin does not hold power nor grasp it nor take possession of it. He is power in Westeros itself. Which makes him a man of a powerful force that all of Westeros can reckon with.
This is a very interesting observation.
The Lannisters ruled the West, from Casterly Rock.
With Tyrion's marriage to Sansa, they would rule the North.
With Loras's marriage to Cersei, they would influence the East (The Reach & The Highgarden)
With Myrcella's marriage to Trystane, they would also similarly influence the South (Dorne).
The existing ruler - Tommen - being a puppet king who was completely controlled by Tywin, with Cersei being too mentally weak after Joffrey's death to resist any attempts
I would not be surprised if Tywin & Olenna conspired together to kill Joffrey, as Tommen was much easier to manipulate & control due to his naïveté and wasn't as much of a tantrum-thrower as Joffrey.
2:16 That little smiley face as he says ”Done” to Jaime's bargain to let Tyrion live
Tywin was twice king. One of the most respected characters in the whole show. Boss
Man worked hard all his life to provide for his family and was rewarded with some of the worst children imaginable, who despite lives of comfort and privilege blamed all their bizarre quirks on him. Partial exception for Tyrion.
TBF, he was cruel and evil. Especially towards innocents, and Tyrion.
The reason why his children turned out to be like that was because of Tywin himself. Tywin only worked on his personal goals, and never cared for anything but his wife.
Almost teared up watching this
He really is a tragic character despite him being written as a villain.
@@LordTywinLannistertheBased Charles Dance’s performance was impeccable
Tywin always have a little soft corner of Tyrion, but he showed it barely because he was the man who do things according to his principles and ethics for his family sake. He started war for Tyrion and the way he looked at the people who were laughing at Tyrion for being short during his wedding with Sansa was something.
For me the show lost its balance when Tywin died. He knew the way out of the hardest of situations. He was really a smart guy
Tywin sending Joffrey to bed was funny. Everyone in the room was like, "yes King, mouthing off to your grandfather and general of the army that's garrisoned in the city is a good move." Lol
I could just watch seasons 1-4 over and over and over again. Seriously the characters were absolutely flawless
If only Tywin loved his son Tyrion. Tyrion was smart and cared about the good of his family, but Tywin just couldn't accept that a dwarf could be his son and heir.
Imagine being a billionaire and having the choice of giving your entire inheritance of wealth, power, and lands. Either to a skilled military man, or a drunken, whoring, disfigured man that would bring shame to your name and few would follow. It's not very much of a choice at all if you're looking for what you built to last at least. Despite all the personal reasons behind the refusal for him to be named heir, Tyrion would most likely have suffered the same ultimatum as Samwell did. He was given the best life someone of his standing could have hoped for.
He was the one who was truly in charge the whole time
Best character in GOT.
Tywin made the Lannister name feared through sheer willpower
If Tywin is alive in 8th season he would surely marry cersi with night king .
If you think about it. Tywin was a good father. Everything he did was to benefit his family and family name. My dad is a good dad, but no ambition and weak. Like Tywin’s dad, Tystos. Having a dad like Tywin only makes you the best version of yourself. Only if you want it bad enough.
Tywin never did any bad things, he just do what he have to for the reign to continue, a great man who plays it correct all the show until Tyrion was ordered to execute
As Tywin himself once said, if he was truly a great and wise man, he'd probably still be alive.
A great man who had 3 ungrateful children
I mean he wasn't the best dad
Dude jamie doesn't listen does his own shit chasing glory instead of capturing ned tyrion wastes his time whoring and drinking to fight his depression of being a dwarf cersci fails to educate her son
R u kidding me rn? He despised Tyrion and considers him a demon. Was it his fault that he was born that way? Are u really going to call Tyrion ungrateful? And yes Tyrion did those things because he was not loved by his own sister or father. Sure he could've done better things but that was his means of coping with the hate towards him and we cannot question an individual when it comes to these things.
@@teamgogreen5504 he was given sansa stark to wed and his son will be the warden of the North
1 ungrateful kid
Tywin realized that after he passed on, no one was left to keep their power. And none of his children realized it, that’s what frustrates him most.
It wasn’t just about the family. It’s that no one took the power hole that was coming seriously
Because dude was a ruthless man and his sons wanted nothing to do with his legacy.. His grandson was dumber version of him.
He was a cold ruthless bastard but he could run a kingdom.
Wow great tribute! Short and right to the heart of the character and family dynamic!
Thank you!!
like the crossbow bolt lmao
@@sylvard1459 Background music?
Tywin the crownless king
Tywins death was the turning point of GoT
Tywin Lannister, perhaps the True king of the seven kingdoms
Well Tywin deserves better than that, have to give him that.
That bgm... At at the end.. it rises above the story... Wow
I think he is the only one who deserves the Iron throne.
He didn't need the crown, he de facto was a king without any formalities.
what can I say spectacular specially with the soundtrack .
I don't believe in perfection but that's the closest thing to it . thnks u make my day ❤
Oooo yyeeeessss, he was a king!!!!
The apex alpha in the GOT 🔥
The only thing I hated about him was how poorly he treated Tyrion other than that he was great. Smart, devoted and knew when to fight or not.
was tywin really unaware of jamie and cersei? he was a very intelligent man all around but sometimes we choose not to see some things that cause us pain. he must have suspected it deep down but was so appalled by the idea that he would rather not believe it also denying it with such contempt maybe made it less likely that others believed it too
Tywin knew about it. The man was no fool. He just denied it in his mind because it would confirm that his legacy is meaningless. He worked too hard for the Lannister name just for it to be ruined by his incompetent children committing incest.
This was a great video
Tywin didn't need to be king. King's Landing was massively indebted to the House of Lannister. That's more powerful than being king.
Shame what happened to Tywin. He was poisoned by his enemies.
Charles Dance is a legend
He sure was a genius and a capable strategist. But he was no wise man.
The true powerful man that proved you need no crown to rule.
Funny this man paid to murder all starks and now all Lions are in the rest, while the wolf is on the hunt.
Come to think of it; One of his sons was Kingslayer and the other one was Kinslayer
El león en toda su expresión.
Why didn’t Tywin make himself king? Cause he never needed to abs he wasn’t stupid, he could of easily at any point
A real king dies on the toielet, first Elvis then Tywin. No coincidence.
Amazing! What music is that?
Absolutely rolled by the Young Wolf
Actually tywin won the war If I remeber well
@@moisesvillagonzalez9146 lol got rolled to the point that he needed to beg the Freys
@@dcanngieter actually no that was just to finish him, rob was no longer a threat to tywin since he had the tyrell, since his army was like 5 times bigger than robs or more not to mention the money difference.
@@dcanngieter in addition robs own bannermen didn't support him anymore like the karstarks, and rob could even defender the north the Ironborn where clapping him and winterfell was in ruins.
The one that had to beg to the freys to have a small chance at survival was rob if I remeber well
If Tywin was King the events that took place in the story and history
wouldn’t have happened all or they would have different outcomes.
They screwed his death
Imagine dying in the toilet
His real son was tyrion and he knew it..But he could not tolerate the dwarfness and people mock behind him. Even though he says it doesn't affect him. May be he hated the fact that his intelligence was transferred to the wrong son.
Tyrion isn't his son and he knew it. Tyrion was son of mad king and tywin wife.... that's why tywin didn't give casterly rock when asked.
Didn't he wait for Robert and Ned to fight the entire war in till he knew they were gonna win. So he took 10000 men to kingslanding and killed all the Targarayns
@Anjelica Snorcket then Joffery was right, Robert did fight the real war while Tyran hid at Castley Walk
@@Dr.LinardChurch still the smart thing to do
@@eliasmagus5086 yeah, but Joffery wasn't wrong saying Tywin hid at Castley Rock and how Robert "Fought the real war"
@@Dr.LinardChurch The way Joffrey said it implied that he did it out of fear. Tywin was anything but a man easy to scare, it made logical sense to wait. He could be on the winning side whichever that ended up being without committing the lives of countless Westerlands men if he simply stayed on the sidelines for most of the rebellion.
More like the king that didn't want to be king
I’m so gay for him :( I’m straight thou
Song name pls ?
Cercei should've given way to him.
Might have had a kid left by the end.
The only king of the seven kingdoms
I'm glad they killed Tywin before they butchered this series.
Music name?
I wish Tywin could have seen the dragons and the white walkers.
He wanted Arya to be his heir
small favor soundtrack pls
Top 5 character. Ehhh maybe top 10
Hate him, but he was a man that stayed true to the Family name and did anyhing... I mean anything to protect the reputation of that name and the lives of his family
Put yourself in his shoes and tell me you would do different ....apart from setting up your own son to be *switched off* and sharing a woman with your son...the same woman u used to set him up.
Well he never was a king
Children are so disappointment 😞
the stupidest thing tywin did was disrespecting tyrion
dude u had one job
act nice towards your family lol
Tyrion was everything Tywin hated.
Yes, it was foolish that Tywin let his emotions controls his judgement towards Tyrion. One great lesson I learn from this Tywin mistake.
I have a feeling that if asked why he never tried to take the crown for himself he would say something akin to
“A man wears armour, such gaudy jewellery is far more suitable for a woman don’t you think?”
"Any man who has to say 'I am the king' is no true king"