Game Of Thrones - Why Tywin Lannister Truly Is The Greatest Character!
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- Is this Why Tywin Lannister Truly Is The Greatest Character in Game Of Thrones and how he has been made to look bad in the show!
Tywin history:
Tytos Lannister
Quote
Pro’s quickly:
Lord
Strategist
Planner plays the game
Commander
As Kevan said he gave peace and plenty
Control people eg Joffrey
Con’s:
Brutal (Reynes)
Dirty (Red wedding, Mountain, Kingslanding)
Tyrion
Conclusion:
For his time (Probably again)
Cares family like etc…
Good for the people
He's a BOSS
Footage Used:
Game Of Thrones Charles Dance Interview - Tywin Lannister
Game of Thrones Histories and Lore - The Westerlands by Tywin Lannister
Game of Thrones- History and Lore of Westeros - House Lannister
Game of Thrones Season 3 Blu-Ray- Deleted Scene
Game of Thrones- Thronecast- Uncut Charles Dance Interview (SPOILERS!)
The Jonathan Ross Show with Game of Thrones cast.
The Reyne Tarbeck Rebellion
Tywin Lannister Best Scenes
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Game of Thrones is an American fantasy drama television series created by showrunners David Benioff and D. B. Weiss. It is an adaptation of A Song of Ice and Fire, George R. R. Martin's series of fantasy novels, the first of which is titled A Game of Thrones. It is filmed in a Belfast studio and on location elsewhere in Croatia, Iceland, Malta, Morocco, Northern Ireland, Spain, Scotland, and the United States, and premiered on HBO in the United States on April 17, 2011. The series has been renewed for a sixth season, which will premiere on April 24, 2016
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Great vid! My fav character by far. Loved Tywin the Villian Mastermind. Dr Doom mixed with Vito Corleone. Chess strategist, truly dangerous mind. His scene prepping the deer🔥, scenes when Arya served him 🔥🔥, scene when he sent Geoffrey to naptime🔥🔥🔥. Some of my fav in the whole series. Or how about the deleted scene when Tywin is the only fishing and call out Pycells scheme that no one else figured out. Amazing
Yeah, I really thought they should have put that Pycell scene in, as it show how perceptive he is :D
The pycell scene is a great scene and definitely should have been kept in.
standupgie My favourite character is Tywin Lannister, because he's a lot like me IRL.
standupgie Tywin is the only reason why I admire and respect the Lannister name, the show makes me worry and root for the Starks but I know where my loyalty lies. Hear me roar!
standupgie Hear me Roar!
Finally someone who likes Tywin, I already thought I was alone
Hahaha never alone :D
Alone? Tywin is one of the most like characters.
You are definitely not alone!
nope I'm #HouseLannister
Tywin is great !!
Let's not forget the actor playing Tywin is also amazing!
Yes! Charles Dance was f**kin amazing!
@King Mckay He’s great no matter what he’s in.
He was also good in last action hero
That part
Well said he made the character what it is he brought it to life
His only mistake was not realizing that tyrion was more like him than cersei and jaime ever were
not really his mind apparently stop working in season 7 and 8
@@justdizzy3273 I ignore those seasons. Lol. The "writers" aren't the original creator, so had no clue how to write Tyrion accurately. It's never organic when someone tries to write a character not their own. I pretend seasons 7 & 8 don't exist at all, and my own version of events are vastly different than what D&D wrote. For one, Aegon Targaryen (Jon) isn't worthless toss away that was resurrected for nothing, and actually defeats the knight king as it's been foreshadowed since the dawn of their appearance. It's always been his fight.
Arya wants to avenge her family, so her targets are all personal. She also doesn't run off to other lands, but remains in Winterfell where she's always belonged. Bran helps them decipher fact from fiction, guilty from innocent, where the bad guys are in his worg state, and nothing more than that. There is no weird cripple as the king, the actual victor takes the throne. Tyrion is actually a Targaryen too, whom already respects and gets along with Aegon (Jon), and they rule on their 3 dragons, but justly. Jon and Tyrion are loving and loyal, and that is just the sort of environment Dany needs to thrive.
A logical, organic flow and sequence of events would have satisfied viewers much more than the garbage they threw at us. Too many writers want to "subvert expectations." Sometimes this works, like when we found out Darth Vader is Luke's father. However, when poorly done , it ruins stories, like when Palpatine "somehow survived" and Rey was his granddaughter to explain her Mary Sue-ness. Just... awful. These stories are better in our imaginations, don't let D&D ruin your love for this story!
Thats why he hated tyrion, cuz he was everything twyin was......except that he was a lil "monkey demon" and his wife died as a result of tyrions birth.
Tywin really is one of the most charismatic and terrifying characters in the books and more so on the show. One of my favorites for sure!
Yeah, Charles Dance took all the power of the character in the books and flushed it out full on screen, great actor!
I miss him on the show; Charles Dance truly brought him to life. Your video reaffirmed why I dig him so much. Thanks!
Ha! Maybe so.
Nothing gets past you, I bet ;)
Yeah, the way he commanded every screen made him so entertaining to watch :D
daddy issues anyone?
"I suppose you would have spared the boy and told Lord Frey you had no need of his allegiance? That would have driven the old fool right back into Stark's arms and won you another year of war. Explain to me why it is more noble to kill ten thousand men in battle than a dozen at dinner."
With that one line he made me really reconsider the Red Wedding, which broke my heart. The man is cold, ruthless, and calculating. But never exceeding a strange practical ethics..
llamaswithouthats based on GOT alone, who 'doesn't' have daddy issues???
Tywin is not a sociopath, he's a complex pragmatic anti-hero shaped by his father's irresponsibility. He's essentially the Mr. Spock of Game of Thrones but with an intimidation factor and an overlord rank. Although the thing with Tyrion's gf was a dick move. Anyway, smart choice of topic btw King Mccay thanks for uploading XD
That was very well put :D
Most of the villain in every movie/serie ever did much less cruel things than Tywin, and still there is people saying he's not a villain, he is the man behind the red wedding, the rape of Elia Martell and her kids, he tried to kill his own son multiple time just because he is a dwarf, he tortured thousands of people on Harrenhall, he gave power to one of the most cruel man ever seen on television Ser Gregor Clegane, yes he is a bad guy, even by game of throne standards.
@ledernierutopiste I have to agree with you, in my eyes he's not a character I admire and I personally refuse to put him on a pedestal. I think a lot of the reason why others write off his misdeeds comes down to the fact he exemplifies traits that our society values. Not that it's a bad thing to value traits like hard work, leadership and knowledge, I just think we should put it in perspective. I know my opinion fundamentally disagrees with many on this thread, but having these types of discussions are always a good thing.
It is a pity Tywin could not see Tyrion as an innocent victim in the game of thrones and realised he had a good brain and tactical mind. Tyrion could have been the asset to the Lanisters he was was meant to be.
late reply but none of this wouldve happened if they had embraced tyrion and used him to his full potential
Muddy Witch is tired......
He didn't give him hand off the king because he recognized his brilliance. But Tyrion could never follow his harsh orders.
PiGo harsh orders? He told him not to turn a hoe into a housewife. He told him to leave the whore where he found her. I believe that is a reasonable thing to ask. Tyrion thinks with his dick and people go on the woe is him bs.
Oh man I know! If Tywin had let go of his resentment of Tyrion and nurtured him, the two of them would’ve been unstoppable
His only mistake was the hate for his son
David Bliss when I look from Tywins perspective I can understand his dislike for Tyrion he killed he beloved wife when he was born due to his deformities, his final son ruining the whole Lannister line in one foul swoop due to Jaime being a kings guard at this moment I believe, tyrion had defamed the Lannister name not by choice but based one his birth. Tywins greatest weakness was that despite him acting like he didn't consider the opinions of the sheep he has always this is why tyrions weakness his such a problem to him
Also, if u followed the tyrion targarien theories, he might actually not be tywins son
Had Tywin recognized what an asset Tyrion is, he might still be alive now.
Tyrion succeeds in bringing order to King's Landing, leads the defense of King's Landing against Stannis Baratheon, eliminates the chief agent through which his rule may be undermined by Cersei's interference, and gets rid of the corrupt chief of the Gold Cloaks. He did a bang up job there.
Tywin has many great features which make him an excellent character and formidable person. His numerous failings as a father and his overly harsh treatment of defeated enemies earned his family more enemies in the long run and left the Lannisters in an incredibly fragile position once he was gone.
Well it was his fucking seed that made Tyrion, so I never understand how he is to blame, like i understand i guess because people during that age were retarded about things like that. (Pycelle claiming treason was a weed that would spread to Sansa)
honestly I would love to see a argument between Tywin and Stannis two of the most badass characters in GoT.
Yes, but I doubt either one of them would ever break in an argument :D
that argument between stannis and tywin would be hilarious in a deadpan sort of way
that scene with stannis and Davos after Davos is rescued from the blackwater, stannis just looks at him turns around "I thought you were dead" hilarious
it would be very similar to Stannis`s conversation with Renly. One side would be speaking about morals and rights the other would be about timing and position. Nothing would come about. The conversation would end with Stannis saying `we shall see Tywin, we shall see`
Better question is who would win in a battle tywin or stannis both commanding similar army strengths. My money is on stannis since he is a much more grizzled veteran of many of Roberts campaigns and proved he can deal deciding blows with minimal forces.
Finally, a fellow Tywin lover. I, too, think Charles Dance was a towering portrayer of the GoT godfather of the Lannister clan!
Yeah I love Charles Dance :D
@@KingMckay I never believe that stupid theory about Tyrion not being Tywin's son, simply because it takes away from the tragedy of their relationship,and it feels so cheap saying he doesn't like Tyrion because he isn't his son and it also makes no sense, Tywin would have just killed Tyrion if that was the case and he definitely would have found a way to kill the mad king if he known he put his hands on his beloved wife,long before any rebellion ever happened, tell me do actually believe Tywin would have let that go unpunished for so long because the theory itself is a insult to Tywin.
Tywin has always been my favourite character, if I could be any character in real life I would choose him. He’s so commanding, demanding and powerful and a genius. He doesn’t show fear, he does what is needed.
I love tywin. he may be a villain, but his the most likable villain out there for his strategic cold mind with his charisma.
アキラ Agreed. Tywin Lannister and Roose Bolton are very similar. Great leaders
Great actor, great character for sure. 2 words - pride and cold...oh so cold. Great job! Thanks!
That would make some great house word "Pride and Cold" :D
lol yep!
Say what you want but Tywin was he most evil character in game of thrones. Great villain yes.
Warden of the North most evil character in the game? Might I introduce you to the man with the Silence, a pirate vessel feared all over the world and crewed by people who have their tongues ripped out by the Iron Captain with the blue lips, eyepatch, suit of Valyrian steel armor and a horn that makes dragons obey him? If you think Tywin is the most evil character you need a proper introduction to Euron Greyjoy. I am the storm...
Ever Dawn Ser Gregor, Qyburn, Ramsy , Vargo Hot , Every Ironborn
Tywin has always been my favorite character in the whole story, either books or show, in the show i never miss a scene for him, Charles Dance did a great job too! No other character in the whole story can get even close to him, how clever, strong and bossy he is!
Couldn't agree more. And I'd argue that Charles Dance is very much responsible for making the characters this amazing.
George r.r. Martin truly is a genius. Every character has such a deep backstory.
Tywin Lannister is definitely one of the best characters on the show, one of my top 3. I can't imagine anyone other than Charles Dance portraying him; he suited the role so perfectly.
I never understood why Tywin was supposed to be so terrible. There are many people more evil and several that are worse fathers than Tywin is to Tyrion. And Tywin has a lot of redeeming qualities. He really should have been king instead of the usurper Baratheon
Yeah defiantly would have been better for the realm :D
fucking cersei is the worst
What about Craster...
When you work for a Tywin then you can see the hatred towards him. I had to suffer underneath a boss just like him and life absolutely sucked.
DaemonPix This. That's why he is terrible. The problem is, people get blinded to the real (book) Tywin's ruthless, cold, selfish nature in the light of the much humanized show-Tywin's certain characteristics.
Charles Dance seriously gives me strong Christopher Lee vibes. Just the power dominant voice and having a straight BOSS presence.
Tywin is incredible as portrayed on the show.
That's all thanks to Charles Dance I think :D
I loved his first scene with him actually skinning a real stag
I love how Charles Dance totally embraced his character :D 7:14
He was my favorite too. His screen presence has overshadowed everyone. Charles dance made full justice with his role. My most favourite part is tywin and arya jn harranhall. Such a master piece.
Arya was a joy to watch as well also the hound
Great video man. No matter wether you love him or hate him, no denying how effective he was as a ruler. The Lannister name under his father became a laughing stock. Tywin being able to almost single handedly return it to a house thats respected and feared shows how incredible he was as a leader. He had his flaws just like every character in asoiaf, but does not take away from just how much of a sheer force he was in the political landscape and history of westeros. Looking forward to seeing more of your videos!
Thanks really well put :D
If anything, I'd blame Barristan Selmy for the whole mess in the books. If he didn't bother and just let the Mad Dipshit Aerys die in Duskendale, Rhaegar would be king, and Tywin would have stayed Hand.
One of many actions that changed the course of Westeros history forever LD
@@Borderose Sir Barrestam even wish he had let the Mad King died. He claimed Prince Rhaeger could have been a good king. And I support him
This is a great video, Tywin is my favourite character too. He's just so calculating and smart
Yeah I also liked that time he sent Joffrey to bed hahaha :D
Took the words out of my mouth. Tywin Lannister is my favourite character in Game of Thrones (and song of ice and fire) along with Tyrion and Arya and might be up there with my favourite characters in TV along with Tony Soprano.
Yeah, I really liked the show's addition of Tywin and Arya interacting. Having two awesome characters play off each other like that SOOOOO FUCKIN COOL :D
His only downfall is bad parenting 😂
Man I completely agree maybe we are the only people who likes so much that character he is my favorite too!!
I think there's more Tywin fans out there but it's not a popular opinion so people just say Dany or something :D
Δημητρης Βαγκοπουλος good riddance to the death of tywin a truly evil character. I think roose is a much better planner than he is but just as despicable. Best character by far is Tyrion or arya.
Genna Lannister's description of Tywin to Jaime during the siege of Riverrun, that was one of the best scene in A Feast of Crows. I was at awe and fully fell in love with Tywin even further.
Yeah totally, whenever we meet characters like Keven, Genna and others close to Tywin we learn how great he truly is. Just sad he ended up against our protagonists :(
Tywin had many talents and characteristics that I lacked all my life. By thinking about Tywin, I became more confident and willing to stand up for myself. I see my life as the Game of Thrones now and Tywin will always be one of my favourite characters.
Tywin burning the wolf pelt in the forge fire, that look of smug satisfaction in his eyes, easily the best part of Game of Thrones.
Seven kingdoms united in the fear of Tywin Lannister ..!
He is my favorite too :)
Of a man of great power and the position he is in he has to be what he is :D
For example ?
He was the perfect specimen of Machiavelli's "The Prince"
His cruelty is for the sake of effectiveness, people don't love him but they fear him thus making him respected above all else, and his other aspects.
Love that book. It's best to be loved and respected. It's most important to be feared.
@@michaelplowman8674 it is preferred to be both loved and feared, but because having both is almost impossible, being feared is safest. But never allow yourself to be despised.
tyrion is more his son than Jamie or cercise
Yes, I don't believe Tyrion is a Targn I think that Tywin believes it to be a possibility and that adds to his treatment towards Tyrion.
technically cersei is his daughter so...
An even greater character than Tywin Lannister is Charles Dance! What a character!! Thank you, Charles, for the immense pleasure that you have brought to countless with your incomparable characterisations in a multitude of movies! Long may you live to do us proud!
he showed Arya kindness in the show. for a time I thought he even suspected who she was, like when he corrected her on how to better pretend to be low born. it seems to me that Tywin isn't the type to suspect her as high born & not find out who exactly she was. just a thought. But I always wondered why in the book when it was Roose she was with at Harrenhal and in the show...it was Tywin, why in both versions they made it such a point to show they knew Arya wasn't who she said she was.
Atleast somebody here likes Tywin more than tyrion like me.. 🙃
lol hahaha :D
Me as well, usually I get evil looks when I say this, but whatever. Lol.
The sole reason enough to love the Tywin character is the stellar performance of Charles Dance. Easily the greatest actor in the whole series.
I always admired Charles Dance's performance as Tywinn Lannister, he is one of my top 3 favorite characters, possibly tying up at second with Varys, he was ruthless because he had to be, he is a product of his environment and became a man because he had to be. I always felt that which is why I have the utmost respect for him on the show!
he is my favorite also, i love his way of thinking
Yeah, he's a total boss :D
He can be a great character but a horrible person, most of the best characters are horrible people. Tywin is a greatly written character but not a good person.
I think he's more a product of his time than simply a "bad person."
@@dubbeking I think that's too relativistic. Nearly any person could be labelled as 'a product of their time.' Tywin was clever AF, charismatic and well written, but also self-interest-driven and without any kind of honour. The video even excuses his orders/acceptance of raping and killing the king's wife and little children lol.
@James Chris Don't assume others have 'not seen the video' just because they don't agree with you. I've watched it and I still think he was a 'bad person,' if you will. Not evil, because the bad things he did were the means, not the goal itself (i.e.: he was not 'sadistic,' 'mad,' etcetera). But he was still the paradigm of someone who would maintain the system in his favour: all of his character is about that. He knew no honour, and all the 'he saved many lives' discourse conveniently ignores that he did it because war would have been bad to his own interests and those of his family, and not because high moral standards or worryings. If he had needed war given a certain circumstance, he would have started war without a second thought; the thing being, he knew war should be avoided if possible, but ONLY because of strategy, not ethics. He was clever and charismatic, with no doubt, and you could learn a lot from him. But he would order to kill you ruthlessly if that could help his plans. So yes, I think he matches one of the various today's definitions of 'bad person.'
And I've not even talked about his 'personal' side (e.g.: Tyrion).
Even Ned the icon of morality in GOT lied to his wife for 2 decades about John and backed a brute just because they where friends.
@@Itizhor robert was gonna do it anyway and tywin didn't want him to invade the westerlands
7:15 tywin lannister playing Charles dance.
They actually got a villain with simple motiviation really right.
Tywin was a great character and certainly the loss of his presence has been felt since. However the major let down came not with him potentially condemning Tyrion to death in the trial, but rather screwing his whore after constantly condemning him for such. This made him a hypocrite and everything his character is built upon is undone with that.
Indeed he is the *ultimate hypocrite* He commit incest with his wife/cousin and thinks hes clever. But turns a blind eye toward his childrens love and stupidity. Kevan is tywin fanboy who gave tyrion some really poor excuse. Just because Tywin's dad is weak and indecisive. Doesn't excuse him to be needlessly cruel towards Tyrion. He is a terrorist, coward, and liar. Im not trying to condemn or anything.
The Ultraman It should probably be noted that marrying your cousin in this world isn't considered incest.
Another thing I find hypocritical about him is his obsession with the Lannister legacy. Well his legacy was turning his house into the most hated one since the Targaryans or Harren the Black. Every single Great house in Westeros now despise the Lannisters and eventually they'd collapse
Isa Sulayman maybe Twyin was getting revenge of The Mad King raping his wife by taking Tyrions whore ? Tywin could shag any whore in Kings landing, and maybe this was him releasing the anger towards Tyrion, the Mad King. The only justification I can think of
The Ultraman
Marrying cousins wasn't seen as incest in real life or Westeros.
Tywin is still my favourite character! With the exception of his treatment of Tyrion, he never was more cruel and vicious than he should be! And always outsmarted everyone!
Tywin has always been my favorite character ! Thank you for this video :D
I LOVE IT. People were always so confused when i said how much i admired and loved Tywin, and they thought me mad. Thank you for the video!! His death was regretfully shameful
2 gold each turn, Tricon, Renown, Lord with bonus STR, of course he is the greatest character in Game of Thrones.
Hahaha :D
Tywin is my favorite character to, and I agree with you on everything except I don't believe that Tyrion is a secret Targaryan, first of all because Tyrion is more his son than Jaime is, Genna said so herself, and also because it ruins the story of Tywin and Tyrion. Cus if he is Aerys' son than its all understandable, and than Tyrion killing Tywin means nothing. But by Tyrion being Tywin 's son it becomes a sad story of a father who can't look away a few flaws and thereby destroys himself and his family.
He didn't say Tyrion wasn't Tywins son, he said there is a possibility that he isn't. Tywin himself don't know if Tyrion is his real son or not and thats whats eating him up.
10:08 people acknowledge this moment as one of Tywin's ruthlessness. But to me thats probably his greatest sign of love in the series(outside of jaime). He said himself he wanted to kill tyrion. But not only did he spare him but CHOSE to raise him as a Lannister. He could've given him away or left him somewhere. Tywin chose to raise him. He did this for his family not for himself ad tyrion asked. I think the thought of harming your own child coupled with being the last memory of joanna is what lead to Tywin sparing Tyrion. Tywin wanted him dead but never thought of killing him with his own hands. Hes still his son and there is love there however buried it might be.
The character and the actor who brought him to life was the greatest thing I've ever witnessed....Good analysis and I loved how you brought in facts from the lore that shed more light to this magnificent villain. More power to you man.
Tywin Lannister is my favourite character
:D
Petyr Baelish - The King Of The Ashes!
Hahaha :D
The things he did to the poor girl who dared to love Tyron, he was a monster, a very charismatic one, but a monster at the end of the day.
Tywin is actually a father everyone needs but hates having.
You make a good argument, although his treatment of Tyrion is still his weak point and his downfall. Even if, as you say, he believes Tyrion isn't his child, the way he treats him by torturing him at every point of his life (remember what he did to the women Tyrion fell in love with) is unjustified. Either he accepts Tyrion as his son and treats him accordingly, or he should've killed him outright or at any point (go hard or go home as you said). However, he goes against his character and does neither of those and refuses to recognize that Tyrion is the one most similar to him in terms of character and judgment out of all his children. Furthermore, he also misjudges his other children, trying to force Jaime to be a leader when he's not (Jaime is and always wanted to be an honorable soldier) and treating Cersei like a prop despite her innate abilities to scheme and desire for power. Like many characters in GoT, it's his weaknesses that do him in at the hands of his mistreated son, Tyrion.
People seem to forget that Tyrion served as hand by the grace of Tywin, a rare touching moment between the two, allowing Tyrion to do a great deal of good, including banishing slynt, removing pycelle from the council and burning stannis’s fleet amongst other things. Whilst he held a lot of hatred for Tyrion for reasons out of Tyrions control it has to be said that Tywin saw himself in Tyrion, more so than in Jaimie or Cersei.
The scenes with Arya and Tywin have some of the best dialogues added by the show. He has always been one of my favorite characters and Charles Dance was absolutely perfect.
Great video! Tywin has always been my favorite. Charles Dance being brilliant actor just makes him even better.
Don't think Tyrion is actually a Targaryen, takes away from the complexity of the dynamic set up between Tywin and Tyrion and from Tywin's death....I think revealing Tywin as not Tyrion's father really slashes out what GRRM built between the two characters
Yeah, personally I don't think Tyrion will be a Targaryen, but I believe the possibility he could be in Tywin's mind adds to the tension in there relationship :D
Tywin saying "you are no son of mine" is just him disowning Tyrion, not confirming any sort of theories.
Tywin once said if he could have proof that tyrion wasnt his son. Why would he said that??? I believe tyrion is part targaryen plus the dragon had a connection with him
@@mariangeliemartinez322 It would make more sense if Jaime and Cersei were the bastards and Tyrion is his only trueborn son, because as a person of pride and a person that don't have problem with killing babies he would've killed Tyrion if he even got a whiff of infidelity or even if Tyrion is a true born. The only way to explain this is Jaime and Cersei were bastards and he chose to raise them because Jaime was a promising warrior and Cersei was beautiful.
This is a bit late, considering that he is dead
I choose to make this well after his death as it allows us to look at his whole life and what he did :D
King Mckay Oh ok thats a great point :D
Frédéric Chopin and killed by the underestimated and bullied son
"to create a demon u just to bully an angel "
Frédéric Chopin is a bit late, considering that he is dead.
Frédéric Chopin what is dead may never die
Great vid! Apart from the Tysha incident he has always been one of my fav characters and Charles Dance plays him brilliantly!
I couldn't agree more, he handled Joffrey with such a sly mocking finesse. My favorite scenes were when he told him "we could arrange to have you carried" and then at the council meeting sent him to bed without his supper!
Great? Sure.
Greatest? That is reserved for my boy Bronn.
Hahaha :D
Don't you mean Karl Fookin Tanner? The Legend of Gin Alley?
My two favourite characters in the tv series. I prefer Tywin though.
Bronn is also awesome. He's like a selfish version of Tywin.
4e34e545e345w3 Agreed. Bronn is my favorite
I understand his hatred of tyrion. And I respect his intellect and charisma. I don't hate him because of that like i hate cersei and geoffrey. But I don't like him either because as brilliant he is at defeating his enemies as horrible he is at protecting his own. He fails to controll cersei and geoffrey, which leads to the death of all of cerseis children and he understandably hates tyrion but doesn't communicate to him why that is the case and makes life for him so very hard that he will inevitably end up betraying him. Would their relationship have been a cold but respectfull one this would not have happened. I find it very surprising that Tywin didn't see that coming.
Even in the books Tywin was my fav character, then i saw that Charles Dance will portray him on the show and Tywin skyrocketed to my fav character EVER. Love the character, love the actor
Agreed I couldn’t say it better myself.
Great video. You have rightfully earned my like and my sub
If he's such a boss, why did he die? Huehuehue
Valar Morghulis
Wait a minute, Tyrion could be descended from the Mad King? He could be a male heir to the throne!
Though he would still be a bastard
People love this theory. But Tyrion is clearly Tywin's son. He is more like him than Jaime or Cersei. He even says "I am your son."
Army of Ninjas Jon Snow says "I'm Ned Starks bastard". Does that make him Ned Starks bastard even though it isn't true?
Timtim Gaming how
Timtim Gaming yeah how? Daenarys is the mad king daughter is 100% from the dragon bloodline unlike tyrion which if true what is said in the video, he would be a bastard
Fantastic analysis of Tywin's character. The history with his father gives Tywin far more depth, and I love the parallels between him rebuilding his House after the mistakes made by his family, and the Stark children having to do the same.
Could not agree with you more, Mr. McKay. Tywin, although long gone as it is, will remain my all-time favorite character.
Excuse me, "made to look bad in the show"?! In the books Tywin is much more evil and ruthless than he's in the show (like Cersei and other characters). If anything, the show makes him look more human in compariason. I've no idea where you got your conclusion from.
Another thing I find hypocritical about him is his obsession with the Lannister legacy. Well his legacy was turning his house into the most hated one since the Targaryans or Harren the Black. Every single Great house in Westeros now despise the Lannisters and eventually they'd collapse
Not to mention all his children and grandchildren dying off, ending his line almost.
Completely agree 👍
I thought I was the only one, Charles Dance played him perfectly
Found my echo chamber! Love it, love Tywin! His conflict with his feeling of his Father and with Tyrion are wonderful
The greatest character to me is Olena Tyrell (Queen Of Thorns) 🏵💚💛
Yeah if we got more from her she would be up there in my Favourites too :D
SPOILER: In season 7 Highgarden will be ransacked by Cersei/House Lannister, House Tyrell will be officially destroyed, and Lady Olenna will either throw herself or be thrown from the stronghold's battlements to her death. RIP House Tyrell Seasons 1-7.
sentenialofliberty You are my least favorite person in the world right now...
In the show she just goes, "Men suck? Right sisters!" every scene. Does she have a puddle of depth in the books?
I love her!
An interesting character, certainly not a good human! Not by our standards, or Planetos!
Tywin did horrible things for his own pride. He can claim it was for his families name, but it was only for himself. He died on the shitter, just as was fitting for him, with the whole realm laughing at him, at the way he died, forever. Stinking up the Sept of Baelor just like he stunk up the lives of so many.
He was ashamed of Tyrion for his looks, and for nothing else. Tyrion looked on the outside how Tywin felt he himself looked on the inside. Tyrion is Tywin's son, and was maybe even a judgement on Tywin by the gods! There is no proof that Aerys raped Joanna! Rumors! Garbage!
And many people think that Daenerys is a villain, or well on her way to it!
Daenerys judges everybody for the actions of a few.
Well, entrie Westeros WAİTED till he died to laugh at him. İts easy to laugh at someone when they cant hit you back aye? Also most of the population loved Tywin as a ruler.
+Benching Loved? Proof, please! There is a huge difference between feared and loved! The point I was making was that Tywin hated to have himself or his precious family laughed at, but that is exactly what he wrought by his behavior! His actions toward Tyrion brought his own ignoble death upon himself!
He got more cheers than king at some point in a tournament. Also its been stated multiple times in the books that all of the westeros had a deep respect for the man. Read the books and you ll see it.
+Benching
I have read the books several times, as a matter of fact. The word respect is actually mentioned with Tywin's name only 4 times in the five novels, and only once of those four times does it refer to Tywin himself, and it is this, from Jaime in AFFC, "Jaime suspected that many and more were secretly delighted to see the great man brought low. Even in the west, Lord Tywin had been more respected than beloved, and King's Landing still remembered the Sack". So a deep respect, no, I don't see that in the text. Certainly not by Ned or people of the north, certainly not by the Martell's. As a matter of fact, in seems like Jaime feels that Tywin's reputation was damaged by allowing the Sack of Kings Landing. Actually, Tywin was smart, so it is surprising he let that happen to the city. People remember stuff like that, but Tywin obviously didn't care what people thought of him, which does show his arrogance, which Cersei certainly inherited.
The cheering incident that you speak of was a tournament hosted by Tywin to celebrate Prince Viserys birth, and it is from Cersei's POV, and I think it could be said that her memories and idea's are to be taken carefully. She was 12 at the time, but just as narcissistic and vain as ever, "They cheered Father twice as loudly as they cheered the king, but only half as loudly as they cheered Prince Rhaegar". This tourney was also held in Lannisport, so right in Tywin's back yard, so to speak, and I am sure people cheered their liege lord. Cheering at a tournament does not equal respect in my mind, but we all are entitled to our own opinions.
I think that Tywin commanded by fear, but fear is a powerful tool and fear can be respected. I am not saying he wasn't respected at all, because he was, but not widely, and maybe not much out of the Westerlands. TWOIAF states this, "the manner in which he had dealt with the rising of the Reynes and Tarbecks had made him well respected, even feared, throughout the Seven Kingdoms", but I take this book with a grain of salt, as it is obvious propaganda for Houses Baratheon and Lannister, written for young King Tommen but a Maester with questionable intentions. GRRM refers to it as semi-canon. so who really knows what we should take from it.
No doubt that Tywin is a complicated character, and like the majority of GRRM's characters, he is neither black nor white, but multiple shades of grey. Tywin was smart, and not afraid, seemed to keep the Westerlands in order and was a distinguished battle commander, but he wasn't beloved and his arrogance hurt him at times. And I can't forget that he did awful things to people over the course of his life, all for his pride and arrogance, and that sticks with me more than some people cheering at a tournament.
Tywin is truly the best. Thank you for making a video on my favourite character. Thank you fam!
Tywin is my favorite character as well. Cold, logical and selfish.
People dislike Tywin because he is not nice, because he doesn’t smile at them and doesn’t tell them lies about “the good of the realm”. Make no mistake, that’s what they fall for. They’ll swallow any lie told on the background of “good intentions” and the hollow promise of “social progress”. They will hate anything that reminds them of a stern, realistic eye and run into the arms of anyone promising them a hug.
This show makes the promotion of maternal care at the cost of patriarchal sense of responsibilities. It supports all forms of feminine tolerance and softening against the costs of necessities. This show turns idealists into heroes and realists into villains. It openly promotes collectivist, egalitarian and inclusive views against the selfish endeavours of Littlefinger or the capitalistic handling of the Lannisters. This show is essentially modern left wing propaganda.
Or you're just trying to find hidden and politically connotated messages where there is nothing of the like. Here are two counter-examples to your conspiratorial delirium: Jon Snow and Tommen Baratheon. The first one is a realist yet also a hero while the second one is an idealist... He may not be a villain, though, but his extreme weak-mindedness and incompetence couldn't have resulted in anything other than a big political crisis, giving his position. I could go on and on like that for quite some time but there is only so much time I can keep going without bursting of laughter at the view of your paranoid comment.
I dislike Tywin not as a character but as a person. He only invaded the Riverlands because Catelyn captured his son. But was there any reason to send his "dogs" to slaughter the Riverland smallfolk for 2 whole years? Was it necesarry to pillage Kings Landing and slaughter thousands of smallfolk only to secure his next alliances to the new king? And destorying two entire houses? Even the children who had nothing to do with the uprising? Flooding a castle with every single person in it?
Dont get me wrong I like Tywin for a lot of things that he has done and most of his decisions are fair from his view but his punishments of smallfolk, goldcloaks, antlermen and nobles goes way and way too far for me to like him.
He is just a smart dick with no respect for human life.
Leo of Red Keep fuck capitalism
Leo of Red Keep
Or, maybe they hate Tywin because he's a mass murderer, a rapist and a looter, a man who has no problem slaugthering entire houses with all their women and children, burning entire villages down to the ground, and even condemning his own son to death.
It's far more simple than your delusional, out-of-reality political theories.
because everything comes down to left vs right! /s
Nope. He is one of the best, but Stannis trumps them all quite easily. Of course you already know that.
Yeah I do like Stannis a lot and was that a Trump joke :D
+King Mckay So every time someone says the word "trump" you assume it's a joke about the president?
stannis...pls. one of the most cliche and predictable characters. absolutely no depth.
Stannis! Stannis! Stannis!
He burned his daughter alive though
glad to know that i am not the only one who view Tywin as a great character, he is one of my favorite character on GoT,,
I never hated Tywin. In fact he has always been one of my favourite characters because of how cold and cunning he was.
He was always one of my favourites, an outstanding actor too!!
Charles Dance owned that role.
There are a lot of great actors in GoT but holy shit did Charles kill it. Every scene he was in he absolutely was the center piece. Acting perfection.
I back Tywin morally on everything he ever did.
I learned that respect is when you both fear and love someone. This was thanks to Tywin
"We've had vicious kings and we've had idiot kings, but I dont think we've ever been cursed with vicious idiot kings."
Those words are as true for Marjorie as they were for Joffrey.
Fkin exactly!!! Anyone who asks me name the best king in the world of ice & fire, I say Tywin Lannister!!!
He is my favorite too, in fact, regardless of everything he was a real politician ... I think if he lived in our days he would have been a great politician too :)
Thank you for this amaz video! I feel and think of Tywin absolutly the same. I totaly admire him and understand his acts very clearly.
Tywin had only three concerns in life: his love, Joanna; his family name being taken seriously, and ensuring that the Lannister name endured for centuries.
The first two were taken away by Tyrion.
Tywin fucked himself out of the third.
One of the best GOT character analysis out there. Subscribed! Keep up the good work.
He has to be one of the best written characters in tv history I swear! He’s not that bad, he literally does what he has to do to survive
Absolutely great video. Tywin is a character that should be admired as the most respected and feared man in the Seven Kingdoms. He's also likable at times too. He didn't put up with Joffrey at all. He's not an evil character at all. Like all Game of Thrones characters besides Ramsay and Joffrey, he's a grey character.
Thank god you made this video! Tywin is best!
No one can bring down us Tywin fans :D
It would be so cool to see a younger Tywin in a game of thrones prequel set in the Mad King's reign. Shame we'll probably never get something like that
My favorite too. When i i get old i want to be like Tywin.
Loved your video about Tywin, you made a lot of great points about his character and of course I have to concur with them, he is my favorite character in the series also he commanded so much respect and he earns it through his choices, actions, his way of thinking and how he expresses himself. I thoroughly enjoy his character, his scenes with Arya were also great as you see him feel more comfortable opening up to her, the few times when you see him take less of a commanding role and more of a father/friend type role.