I love the fact that when that one soldier fought against the hounds he immediately went and made art. Most slaves weren't taught to read or write so writing was probably something he learned not to long before that, and he took that new skill and used it to express himself.
I have been binging all the episodes with prop. Holy fuck I love him. He riffs off Robert so well and I really learn a lot from hearing about his perspective and experience with politics as a black man. I'd consider myself a woke person, but it's always refreshing to have that challenged to realize there's always more room for myself to grow and learn and be more effective in my own political journey. It gives me joy to know that people like you guys exist and actually are out on the ground with the rest of us fighting and being incredibly good advocates for just critical thinking in general.
Got a similar story to the car one -- my grandpa lives in a tiny town in the midwest. his house is also tiny, but he has this huge flagpole that used to fly a state flag, a confederate flag, and a union flag. he's autistic with a special interest in the civil war, specifically the battle of gettysburg. he's the only person i've ever met who *actually* owned a confederate flag because of the history -- man got in an argument with my grandma once because she said the war was about state rights, and before anyone else could say a word he snapped back with "state's rights to do *what,* exactly?" I don't know at what point during all this he finally thought, "huh, people are probably getting the wrong idea about why this white man in the rural midwest is flying this," but at whatever point that was, he took it down. I haven't seen it since. I know he didn't burn it since it's still historical to him but man I wish..
Sttes rights to do many things. Slaveey was on its way out by the time the war if northern aggression started even in the south. You pay incime tax today because of the union Victory. You pay property taxes in oarr due to their win. You are a slave yourself due to the unions win. But yes the war was about the states, that created the federal government. To not be beholden to its own child.
My parents lived in Guatemala in the 1990s and early 2000's and there were still plantation police patrolling the coffee plantations so that the indigenous laborers didnt leave.
I've been binging on this podcast via YT for a couple of weeks ago. Y'all so smart! I've been recommending Behind the Bastards all over the place. I particularly enjoy Prop as a guest. I'm not a hip hop fan, but I'll check out his work. And the poetry. Maybe the coffee if it is available. Thanks all of you for showing up, if showing up is the first step, And it is. As of the use of dogs in oppression, take a good look at how the Reich handled prisoners in concentration camps. Dogs were used as deadly weapons, as they were in the American South, One resource is is Ravensbruck: Life and Death in Hitler's Concentration Camp for Women.
Whenever people bring up the Spartans, usually in an appreciative "they were so badass!" way, I like to burst their bubble by telling them how the Spartans actually had a very mixed track record when it came to winning wars -- because they were always having to pull troops back to put down the inevitable slave rebellions. Turns out when your entire citizenry are dedicated to war, someone still has to grow the crops and raise your children. It's almost as if crippling overspecialization is a bad thing!
UK police are generally pretty well-thought-of. It's seen as a reasonably honourable job, which isn't hurt by the fact that most of our police scandals haven't involved uniformed-police-on-citizen violence (it's generally been the more standard misogyny, intraorganizational abuse of power and occasional drug rings). Also, policing in the UK has *much* less of a "your fellow officers are more valuable than the citizenry they're policing" thing going on than US policing does, and I *distinctly* remember being told as a kid that cops were decent people to go to for things like getting directions to places, not *just* if you wanted to report a crime. That said, the same rough rules apply when you're talking to a cop on a traffic stop, although there's *significantly* less risk of violence that isn't on a "don't start none, won't be none" basis.
58:50 i like how the notion that the reason this people were afraid of these dogs when they were your slaves might have had somethign to do with the fact that they couldnt defend them selves from them and now that they have guns they may bot be so afraid of them just apprently went right over this generals head lol
As someone who is kind of from Abilene: 1) Hurt my dang feelings 2) It's not in the panhandle 3) it's a decent sized city; I don't think it's the kind you get pulled over in just cause the cops are bored
@Jakeurb8ty82 understanding the difference in ehat? There is no difference. The military was split up in the 19th century. One branch pulls policing duties the other military. Regisrdless either will be glad to kill you simply because they are told to. However police didn't exist in this country ,nor did a standing army (which is what the police are). Untik the late 1830's.
I love the fact that when that one soldier fought against the hounds he immediately went and made art. Most slaves weren't taught to read or write so writing was probably something he learned not to long before that, and he took that new skill and used it to express himself.
This is the 1st one of the behind the police series
Robert - you need to interview Prop's Pops and his old school Black Panthers buddies. It would be interesting, informative, and a hilarious roit
I have been binging all the episodes with prop. Holy fuck I love him. He riffs off Robert so well and I really learn a lot from hearing about his perspective and experience with politics as a black man. I'd consider myself a woke person, but it's always refreshing to have that challenged to realize there's always more room for myself to grow and learn and be more effective in my own political journey. It gives me joy to know that people like you guys exist and actually are out on the ground with the rest of us fighting and being incredibly good advocates for just critical thinking in general.
Got a similar story to the car one -- my grandpa lives in a tiny town in the midwest. his house is also tiny, but he has this huge flagpole that used to fly a state flag, a confederate flag, and a union flag. he's autistic with a special interest in the civil war, specifically the battle of gettysburg. he's the only person i've ever met who *actually* owned a confederate flag because of the history -- man got in an argument with my grandma once because she said the war was about state rights, and before anyone else could say a word he snapped back with "state's rights to do *what,* exactly?" I don't know at what point during all this he finally thought, "huh, people are probably getting the wrong idea about why this white man in the rural midwest is flying this," but at whatever point that was, he took it down. I haven't seen it since. I know he didn't burn it since it's still historical to him but man I wish..
Sttes rights to do many things. Slaveey was on its way out by the time the war if northern aggression started even in the south. You pay incime tax today because of the union Victory. You pay property taxes in oarr due to their win. You are a slave yourself due to the unions win. But yes the war was about the states, that created the federal government. To not be beholden to its own child.
@@FreedomInc Uh huh.
My parents lived in Guatemala in the 1990s and early 2000's and there were still plantation police patrolling the coffee plantations so that the indigenous laborers didnt leave.
Wow. I wish this were hard to believe. It sounds like those workers were serfs, or possibly even slaves.
@@function0077 yes, i felt bad for them. Hopefully guatemala can change.
I've been binging on this podcast via YT for a couple of weeks ago. Y'all so smart! I've been recommending Behind the Bastards all over the place. I particularly enjoy Prop as a guest. I'm not a hip hop fan, but I'll check out his work. And the poetry. Maybe the coffee if it is available. Thanks all of you for showing up, if showing up is the first step, And it is. As of the use of dogs in oppression, take a good look at how the Reich handled prisoners in concentration camps. Dogs were used as deadly weapons, as they were in the American South, One resource is is Ravensbruck: Life and Death in Hitler's Concentration Camp for Women.
Whenever people bring up the Spartans, usually in an appreciative "they were so badass!" way, I like to burst their bubble by telling them how the Spartans actually had a very mixed track record when it came to winning wars -- because they were always having to pull troops back to put down the inevitable slave rebellions. Turns out when your entire citizenry are dedicated to war, someone still has to grow the crops and raise your children. It's almost as if crippling overspecialization is a bad thing!
You should also tell them how Spartans had institutionalised pederasty and ask why they idolize such a society.
"and then there's salem" tell me about it. I miss my old spot near roadside attraction and bv.
UK police are generally pretty well-thought-of. It's seen as a reasonably honourable job, which isn't hurt by the fact that most of our police scandals haven't involved uniformed-police-on-citizen violence (it's generally been the more standard misogyny, intraorganizational abuse of power and occasional drug rings). Also, policing in the UK has *much* less of a "your fellow officers are more valuable than the citizenry they're policing" thing going on than US policing does, and I *distinctly* remember being told as a kid that cops were decent people to go to for things like getting directions to places, not *just* if you wanted to report a crime.
That said, the same rough rules apply when you're talking to a cop on a traffic stop, although there's *significantly* less risk of violence that isn't on a "don't start none, won't be none" basis.
58:50 i like how the notion that the reason this people were afraid of these dogs when they were your slaves might have had somethign to do with the fact that they couldnt defend them selves from them and now that they have guns they may bot be so afraid of them just apprently went right over this generals head lol
As someone who is kind of from Abilene: 1) Hurt my dang feelings 2) It's not in the panhandle 3) it's a decent sized city; I don't think it's the kind you get pulled over in just cause the cops are bored
Does Prop think Irish people are from Scotland?
Rome alwasy had police. Like the brjttieh police in 1770, the red coats. The military played both fighting fkrce and police force.
thank you for demonstrating you don't understand the difference.
@Jakeurb8ty82 understanding the difference in ehat? There is no difference. The military was split up in the 19th century. One branch pulls policing duties the other military. Regisrdless either will be glad to kill you simply because they are told to. However police didn't exist in this country ,nor did a standing army (which is what the police are). Untik the late 1830's.