Arminians in that book is in reference to a particular kind of Protestantism, named afer a dead guy named Arminius. It has nothing whoatsoever to do with Armenia, the Armenian people, or the orthodox church of Armenia.
I'm glad you said it, that was driving me nuts. But, considering how much of this book is just bellyaching about "the Jews," I suppose I can't really blame the podcasters for thinking the author was just like, "hey, let's throw another ethnic group in there; you know, for flavor."
@@willhennessy864 I’m just surprised he missed that, because the host and I both grew up in rural, southern Baptist, Texas, and hating the hell out of arminians is practically tradition
I myself made that mistake once when I saw the Louis Theroux doc on the Westboro Baptist church. I was, oddly enough watching with an Armenian friend. The preacher dude started going OFF on Arminians, and I looked at my friend and said something like "Dude wtf! He's talking shit about your people!" And he looked confused for a sec before hitting me back with "He's saying ArmInians, dumbass." And then I looked up Arminians on Wikipedia, lol. I would say, assuming it is a typo rather than looking further into it is a bit more egregious of an error, but yeah.
@@joshwondra9821 for sure, I'd say. I don't know if you've seen other Louis Theroux stuff, but he's really good overall, and that one is no exception. I knew OF Westboro before but not their beliefs and their real story before. They are very fucked up. Good interviews with members who have left or been kicked out.
I love how this book is ostensibly about the flat earth but 9/10 times when you turn to a random page it’s just some unhinged antisemitic rant with the conclusion of each of these rants being “these people are telling you the earth is round.”
But these disgusting liars said he calculated the circumference of the earth 3,000 years ago! Everyone knows that Eratosthenes lived around 2,300 years ago! Therefore, the Jews are conspiring to hide the flat earth!!
Dan Olson from the TH-cam channel Folding Ideas did a really solid breakdown of flat earth beliefs and why the shape of the earth is the least important part of what they believe. It explains everything you came across in that book.
Karl Marx did send Darwin a copy of 'Das Kapital', having been very impressed by 'On the Origin of Species'. Darwin did not read Marx's book, which is still in Darwin's library at Down House which is now a museum. In those days, publishers generally didn't cut the edges of the folded pages in a book, leaving it to owners to cut between each page. Darwin's copy does not have the pages cut, so he could not have read it. BTW, Marx's pal Friederick Engels was one of the first to propose that humans had evolved upright stance before large brains. For a very long time, the consensus was that big brains evolved first and upright stance only later, on the basis the 'highest races' were distinguished from the others by being smarter. Engels viewing labour as having primacy over capital got it right, as we now know.
In the mid-1800s, Marx wasn't quite the monster he's portrayed as today. He was barely on anyone's radar until he got involved with the First International in the 1860s-70s. There wasn't 150+ years of propaganda portraying him (and socialism/communism in general) as evil incarnate yet. So Darwin potentially having read Marx (whether he actually did or not) isn't particularly controversial. He was just one of many writers at the time, and not particularly well-known.
@@TheDarthbinky Also Darwin's ideas, and especially the interpretation of them that came to be called "Darwinism", are steeped in capitalist thought. People had proposed the basic concepts of evolution before Darwin, and arguably it was only his framing of it, which presents nature as working like capitalism, that resulted in its widespread popularity.
@@DStecks Right, he's especially indebted to Malthus, who basically paved the way for natural selection by talking about populations competing over scarces resources in an explicitly capitalistic context.
No. Darwin’s theory of evolution owes its origin to Hegel just like Marx’s theories. Prior to Hegel’s notion of the dialectic- the notion of change, of progression as opposed to stasis or cyclical change wasn’t really philosophical construct. The idea of change and motion and antagonisms creating and destroying and “evolving” is a 17-18th century concept. The whole idea of fundamental change- be it evolution, class struggle, or even Freudian notions of psychoanalysis and real development of human psyche all owes the fact that it can even be considered to Hegel’s introduction of the concepts of the dialectic and praxis. Prior to this human thought was informed by notions of the eternal, cyclic change (if any change) and the repetitive patterns of history, biology, and any other human experience.
20:54 the best part of that filmed experiment is that was the fallback after their initial attempt failed. They dropped $10k on a measuring device that proves we rotate at something like 15 degrees/hr. That device proved the flat earthers wrong and they fell back on the loght experiment, still wrong.
fun fact: while Egregore is not a monster in the dnd monster manual, it IS one in its spiritual sequel pathfinder, egregores are an actual concept in mysticism, basically think a tulpa(or a jojo stand) but manifested from a group instead of a single individual
How is pathfinder DnD's spiritual successor when DnD is still a thing? At most it is an offshoot, the "spiritual successor" and indeed successor to DnD is just the latest version of DnD which is still active.
@@louisvictor3473 no thats a normal sequel, a spiritual successor doesent actually require the original end (spin offs are still sequals after all) though in this ase it was designed specifically as 3.5s successor
The "scales falling from your eyes" bit at the beginning from the back of the book is most likely a biblical reference to an event where Jesus healed a blind man. Jesus mixed mud with his spit I believe, dipped his finger in that, touched the man's eyes, and scales fell from his eyes. His blindness was then cured and he could see. So that was probably trying to say that we've all been blind before realizing these truths about the flat earth or whatever. Probably nothing to do with lizard people, though I wouldn't be surprised if the author believes in that too.
It's from the Bible, but this is the wrong bit. Jesus healed the blind man but no scales fell from his eyes. Much later, after the Resurrection, Christianity is spreading, Paul (at this point very fervently Jewish) is going around inquisiting Christians. Jesus appears to him, tells him to cut it out, and strikes him blind. This convinces Paul that maybe he should rethink his theology and he goes to the house of a certain Christian lad whom Jesus tells to heal Paul and trust him. The guy then heals Paul, and "something like fish scales" falls from his eyes.
@@portmantologist Fun fact, if you read the Gospel of Luke and the Book of Acts (also by Luke) you can tell that Luke was a physician because he gives additional details on the healings Jesus and His apostles did. I mean it's the ancient world so don't expect Taber's but he DOES give some anatomical details.
Here's a tiny lie in there that most people wouldn't catch: it's not possible that they changed the hatch on the Apollo 1 capsule "that morning". That thing was deeply integrated into the capsule, and would have taken months to change from inward-opening to outward. That's probably why NASA didn't change the hatch design even after the astronauts told them they didn't like it. Also, I don't know about the report that supposedly went missing, but there certainly were very long, detailed reports that covered many, many mistakes NASA had made that led to the deaths of those men. If they were trying to hide anything, they failed miserably. (My dad was there that morning, and the bottom of the rocket, waiting to go inspect the capsule after the test, is how come I know more about it, I should humble brag ... I mean, add.)
@@cmfort2696 Anything anybody says is always just like, their opinion, man. I assume everybody else knows this, so I don't waste time saying "This is just my opinion, but ..." because, ofc it's just my opinion. Some way you would rather that me from nearly a year ago should have phrased my comment?
IIRC, some of the rationale behind an inward-opening hatch because it's a design that seals better in space. The idea is that the air in the capsule would force the hatch outward, thus effectively vacuum-sealing it shut. As to why the potential consequences of that choice (among others, such as the pressurized high-oxygen enviroment in that capsule) were missed, the Apollo program was running at an absolutely breakneck pace, and it's an absolute miracle that they didn't lose more flight crews than they did.
This isn't even Christianity. Half of this was declared heresy 2000 years ago. It reads more like if Himmler had been obsessed with Gnosticism rather then Germanic pagans.
To be fair, almost all religions prime people for falling into conspiracy theories because they all require a level of tolerance for cognitive dissonance and faith in the illogical.
Arminian refers, in a nutshell, to the theological position of human free will, named for Dutch theologian Jacobus Arminius, taken by some Christians in opposition to Calvinism, or hard determinism. It has nothing to do with the region. Cheers.
54:16 This reminds me of the Rifftrax short "Is Corn Grass?" They ask the question at the beginning, but they never get around to answering it. Hello? Flat Earth? Scales from the eyes? You know? LOL.
55:22 - I think, at the core of it, they have sublimated a desire for self-actualization into a hero complex. And because capitalist society has very little use for heroes and in fact any hero not carefully managed could become a _people's_ hero, almost none of these chuds are going to be heroes because that's how the world works. The age of heroes is dead. Or, more accurately, never existed. Since their frustrated hero complex can't be reconciled with the pale, gray reality of our complex world, where such things as heroes are ostentatious and mostly unwanted, they create another in which they _can_ be a hero. Which again, is an abstracted form of self-actualization. Society as it exists today has taken so much from us, and some people will do anything to avoid facing the truth.
"In such a perspective everybody is educated to become a hero. In every mythology the hero is an exceptional being, but in Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death." Umberto Eco
I’ve been listening to this guy on podcast apps for 3 years now, first time listening to it on TH-cam, and Robert looks nothing like I expected. To be honest I don’t know what I was expecting… Love the pod
To my understanding one of the methods of figuring out the world was round is as simple as 'Watch a ship travel over the horizon and bend slightly while doing so' while another is 'draw a large triangle and accurately measure the angles' (though I think that one requires a triangle between cities, so I don't know in practice whether that was something anyone did, or if it's just presented as an example to demonstrate that the greeks had access to technology (the triangle) which made working this out simple.
Yep, that is pretty much it. It was an observation, and then eventually a nerd did the numbers (which was basically just some clever use of basic trigonometry, ihis cleverness was in putting some observations together to figure out he could set up a primary school trigonometry class problem to figure out the circumference). The technology the guy had access to was people to pace out the distance between two cities, some hear say about how a shadow looks out in the other city, a shadow, and his brain.
Eratosthenes wasn’t trying to prove the Earth was round, it was already common knowledge that the earth wasn’t flat. He wanted to figure out the size of the earth. The Greeks had deduced the Earth was a sphere from many different observations. Ships on the horizon was one, but a better one was lunar eclipses. They realised it was the earths shadow being cast on the moon and the shadow was always perfectly round. Only shape that always casts a round shadow is a sphere. That being said triangles do prove the earth is round due to spherical excess. The internal angles of a triangle add up to 180 degrees except on a rounded surface where the angles add up to more than 180 degrees. Surveys that have been done all show this spherical excess. There’s some pretty good vids on TH-cam that explain it.
That the book drives directly into the realm of fantasy (and esotericism) is not surprising. Over a long enough timeline, all conspiracy theories must endow the conspiracy with supernatural power to fill the mounting logical gaps in the theory. "They" need to be so powerful to maintain the lie, they functionally become gods. All conspiracy theories trend towards a form of Gnosticism, where the god of the physical world is malicious and deceitful and all-powerful.
For the record, the way said Egyptian guy measured the circumference of the Earth was by measuring the distance between two towns and using the pength of shadows to compute the angular difference to the sun between the two places. Note that you can do that approximately correctly even without knowing the distance to the sun because it is so distant that light rays from the sun arrive very very nearly parallel.
The method used for determining the circumference of the globe in Egypt: 1) Measure the distance between two points. 2) Plant a pole of known length at each of those points. 3) Wait until the Sun shines directly downward on one of those poles, casting no shadow. 4) Measure the length of the shadow cast by the other pole. You now have all the information you need to estimate the radius of the Earth. You now have a pair of similar triangles. The first is the triangle of pole, shadow and the invisible line joining the tip of each. The second is the triangle of core, shadowless pole and pole with shadow, with the length of the pole roughly equivalent to the radius of the Earth. At that point, it's simply a matter of determining ratios.
tbf a lot of names in d&d and fantasy take some sounds from [ancient] hebrew names. egregor is from the book of enoch, and is a word used a lot in the occult. but anti-semites often conflate occultism and kabbalah, so colour me unsurprised.
I think technically the kaballah might be occult, but from a jewish conservative sect thing thats not what we usually would call occult. ok its maybe more obscure mysticism but close enough. ot that allthat ancient names arent everywhere in popculture no matter from where
I'm not sure if they appear in any old obscure dnd books but the Egregore _is_ a cr10 aberration in a pathfinder bestiary. Not just a borrowed word either, the PF Egregore is a being created by the collective consciousness of an evil cult, which results in a 'cult mind,' basically a hive mind, which grants bonuses to the cult members which created it. Some real c'thulu shit, and also the kind of entry you can build an entire campaign around.
I'm going to assume that we're dealing with early Zoastrian logic with the planets and they're just demons chained to the stars (They're a big globe with rings because that's what demons look like apparently)
As someone who had never heard of Arminian Christianity, as soon as Robert Evans said "it's not even spelled right!" I kind of rolled my eyes and thought, oh okay so they're probably not talking about Armenians then? To be fair, i made a similar mistake myself years ago; some antisemite was talking Christian theology at me, and he said "arianism" (as in nontrinitarianism) but I didn't know what that meant and mistakenly assumed he was referring to aryanism, the racial concept.
There _is_ Armenian Christianity, though. The Armenian Church is absolutely a thing. They're pretty orthodox, from what I recall. (My memory is terrible; that's the extent of my recollection.)
@@mookinbabysealfurmittens Sure but Arminianism is a branch of Calvinism and had a lot of influence in most North American evangelical denominations. The Arminian are also the target of a lot of old European conspiracy theories while the Armenians are only really the target of Turkish conspiracy theories.
@@FakeSchrodingersCat I just said that the Armenian Church is a thing. And that it's nothing to do with the "arminian" thing, which I didn't know about and don't really care cos it seems like conspiracy bollocks. Cheers, though.
@@What-lt3lj You are right, I overstated the connection. It was a direct reaction to the rise of Calvinism and rejection of predestination. Though I would argue that just like Lutheranism was an offshoot of Catholicism viewed as a reformation correcting errors in doctrine, Arminianism's framing of their beliefs specifically as a rejection of Calvinist ideas of predestination is a valid link. Outside of that disagreement they share a lot of common theology.
I've read a few accounts of the Perimeter Defense (AKA: "Dead Hand") system and there's a lot of disagreement between them, which you'd expect of a secret nuclear defense project in the waning days of the USSR. One version holds that it was proposed to Soviet military command, who turned it down in disgust. Another states that it was approved and built, mainly to mollify hard-liners who wanted to launch a preemptive attack on the US in response to the "Star Wars" initiative. There's versions of the story insisting everything between.
The whole "boiled pig anuses" thing took me back to my youth, watching Amy Poehler on the Upright Citizen's Brigade TV show. "OH NO PIG ANUSES" . . . Thank you for that!
@@DoveAlexa god was just a baby then, who amongst us hasn't turned somebody into salt when they were a toddler, or killed 99.9% of the planet in a fit of teen angst?
Arminians refers not to the country or people of Armenia but followers of the teacher Arminius, a Biblical theologian. Arminianism is in opposition to Calvinism taught by (among many) John Calvin during the Reformation. In very broad terms, Arminians believe that humans must place their faith in Jesus and God of their own free will and volition, whereas Calvinists believe that humans inherently resist God's offer of salvation because of sin and that only through an act of grace on God's part can the human being perceive it's sin and need for Jesus and therefore come to Him in faith. Free will vs. determinism, essentially.
53:36 Phosphorus can be hard to come by in some soils and it is one of the 3 major plant nutrients. Battlefields where the dead are buried on location have concentrations of calcium phosphate, calcium being another essential nutrient and alkaline metal capable of liming soil. I'm not saying that the very people who spread the blood libel myth were likely eating bread grown with the bones of dead soldiers, but I might be lying about that first part of this sentence.
I thought Egregore was a demon from Shin Megami Tensei usually vulnerable to lightning. So the next time you see someone egregoring, try casting some Zio on them.
It's humorous to me that the text of the book ends on page 616 since that's the actual "number of the Beast". I wonder if somebody did that on purpose as a joke?
I hope you weren't sober when you read these excerpts. Reminds me of a fun evening when a friend showed me his copy of the Book of Mormon and we read random sections (not sober). And "Egregore" reminds me of a character from Winnie the Pooh.
Flatearth map reward now at $70,675,239 ANTARCTICA IS NOW OPTIONAL! All flatearthers use the exact same map of Earth for directions so, I just want to know.... WHAT'S THE FREEKEN HOLD UP DUDES?! Seriously, what's the delay? Still not enough money??? [Seriously, where’s the map?]
I'm a communist, for a while now, and I've never heard of Egregor. Maybe that's just a manifestation of the Communist Order's lack of confidence in my potential. 🤷♂
You're Cody no one is saying humans came from apes because humans are apes. Apes are the branch of Old World primates who don't possess prehensile tails and includes chimpanzees, bonobos, gorillas, urangutans, and hominids of which Homo sapiens is the only surviving species.
11:30 - This whole idea is really well exemplified by the fact that the Earth is in what's called the 'Goldilocks Zone', a perfect expression of being medium. Not too hot, not too cold, just right. :)
The Greatest Story Ever Told = Christofascist The Greatest Story Never Told = Fascist The Greatest Lie Ever Told = Flat earth fascist The Greatest Lie Ever Sold = Christofascist They're not very creative.
Hello, I'm a famous businessman and philanthropist, David Egregorian, from Belgium. And I'm looking for people who would produce educational videos about how our Earth is a Globe for 10 million dollars.
At 37, yet to hear it once in all audio media, **this** show has given me _2_ mentions of skinks - _so far!_ - and leaves me with a sense of well-directed anticipation of further skink speak in some of the ~400 extant episodes, plus the future releases this new fan and subscriber is excited to experience! Oh and I think it's fine that Johnston and Stoll are allowed to hang out, too, I guess. Their show is okay and stuff JK Y'ALL - I AM ECSTATIC TO HEAR SOME MOAR OF THE SOME MORE-ONS I ALREADY LOVE SO MUCH!
Yeah, pretty much every European scholar of note prior to the 1900s was a person of some kind of faith. Not only is atheism as a concept somewhat new to the West, but the whole science-vs-religion nonsense is iirc a manufactured culture war that started in the early 1900s.
Arminians are a reference to Jacobus Arminius, y'all. He was a theologian who developed a variation of Calvinist ideas called Arminianism after himself. It's not a reference to Armenia or Armenians. It ain't even spelled the same way.
I find their mention of relatively very telling. Here is a thing, the roundness of earth has pretty much fuck all to do with relativity. Heck, it barely has to do with physics. It is an observation, be it from the pictures taken from space, or from observing how things work and doing some basic primary school mathematical derivation (which is literally what the guy from 300 BCE used, it is really simple trigonometry - cleverly applied to reality, but still really simple). Heck, classical/newtonian mechanics could be proven wrong, congrats we now would have no clue why it is round them... still wouldn't change that it is round, because that is above all an observation, not a conclusion derived from physics equations and theory. In short, they mentioning it as if it matters just reinforces they've 0 idea wtf they're talking about.
A similar thing occurs with people who argue against evolution without comprehending that the explanation came about thousands of years after the observation that it happens, and thus it doesn't matter who said what when, we still evolved.
The slave states wanted slaves counted the same as anyone else. This was all for the purpose of assigning congressional districts. The free states didn't want slaves to be counted at all for that purpose. That doesn't mean the slave states were the good guys and free states bad because the former wanted to count slaves and the latter didn't. Both were angling to power in the House where population counted.
Aside from everything else (and that is a big aside) doesn't the Torah also describe the earth as being flat with the firmament and all that, and that's part of the same books that got reused in the Bible?
People have already commented about this, but I wanted to give a bit of a summary of Arminianism, perhaps to get into the weeds a bit into the minutia of Christian theology. The sect was named after the guy who made the doctrine Jacobus Arminus/Jakob Hermanszoon, and has no relation to the Armenian Apostolic Church. (The second syllable "min" rhymes with "bin" not "lean".) Many of these views revolve around Christian ideas of salvation from sin or "soteriology". To understand it, it is good to start not with Arminianism itself but with Calvinism. This might seem odd, but I do it because Arminianism was made as a direct opposition and response to Calvinism, so knowing it makes it easier to understand what Arminians argue for. Calvinist traditions are frequently described with the acronym TULIP to describe salvation from sin through sovereign grace of God: - Total depravity: People cannot fully redeem ourselves by our own free will, only God can through His grace. - Unconditional election: Some people have been chosen to be redeemed independent of any qualities they may have. - Limited atonement: Only some people get redeemed. Not everyone. - Irresistible grace: The elect may reflect these values or convert to them. - Perseverance of the saints: The elect are often drawn to God's grace in the end. ("Saints" in this context is just a description of those with faith in Christianity.) The opposing Arminian perspective's "Five Articles of Remonstrance" put emphasis on individual free will: - Total depravity: While people cannot fully redeem ourselves and need God's grace, it is up to the individual to accept it. - Conditional election: Being redeemed is contingent on believing in Christianity. - Unlimited atonement: Anyone who believes in Christ gets salvation. - Prevenient grace: God's grace is provided to everyone but people can resist it. - Conditional preservation of the saints: The elect are drawn to God's grace once the decision is made on the condition that they still have faith. A lot of mental power in the Medieval and Reformation periods in Christian areas was being devoted to untangling the Trinitarian Doctrine and word issues like this one. It is still a bit suspicious that the flat-earth book goes full-bore into an attack on Arminianism, especially considering the relevance to the subject at hand seems to be tangential at best. What relevance would squabbles between Dutch theologians regarding the specifics of Christian soteriology have in a discussion about re-writing the laws of physics?
I happen to like South Park's portrayal of that god as a weird deformed dwarf hippo thing that is entirely unlike anything we're led to expect because while I don't think there are any gods, it seems reasonable to suspect that if one did exist, we could easily be very wrong about it in very basic ways. That said, if "God made Man in his own image" then god is clearly a monkey and statistically about 10% gay.
Because we all know 'j' word space lizards keep us controlled by space lasers to perceive the world as flat. And the famous doc Arrested Development killed me.
Oh, dear, a lot of bad history in this one on the part of the podcasters. Communism is much older than Marx. The early Christian communities were communist internally actually living according to 'from each according to his ability to each according to his means'. Marx kind of applied 'Enlightenment' thinking and an analytical framework to a very old idea of how society would best be organized for human well-being.
why do american people assume engineers are especially smart? Is it because higher ed is expensive, hence exclusive, in the US? I'm Indian. Here if you spit in any direction, you're bound to end up assaulting 5 different types of engineers
Hmm, maybe it's just because in the US we have a high proportion of people who do non-stem jobs? I really don't know. But engineers take a lot of math classes, usually do math in their jobs (I assume), and it's got more practical application than things like teaching or theoretical physics (and that practical application tends to be associated with common sense, so we think of them as having two kinds of intelligence.) That's just a quick theory with absolutely no research, though!
That's a very long and complicated topic. The quick and dirty answer is American culture has this faux-meritocratic idea that if you have a job that involves a lot of book-learning and that pays well (the money part is important; academics aren't seen as being as special,) then you clearly must be very smart. This feeds the ego of some--some not most-- members of the trade classes who try to wave their credentials around to mark themselves as an authority in fields they have no training in. This is especially bad with the military when someone joins up for a two-year-tour of palette-pushing, officially becomes a "vet," and believe that somehow qualifies them to be experts on politics.
Because engineers and most stem lords here act like self important snobs. They think they are part of the group that builds society and so are the most important people, which leads to big headedness in a hyper individualistic nation like America. There are many other issues that play into it too, like education being paywalled as you mentioned. The average American reads at a third grade level.
Recently noticed that all the 2020 United States election videos are getting a 2024 Donald Trump wins quote unquote correction to them. I don't think TH-cam's put any effort into improving their code/algo/whatever in a decade.
Arminians in that book is in reference to a particular kind of Protestantism, named afer a dead guy named Arminius. It has nothing whoatsoever to do with Armenia, the Armenian people, or the orthodox church of Armenia.
I'm glad you said it, that was driving me nuts. But, considering how much of this book is just bellyaching about "the Jews," I suppose I can't really blame the podcasters for thinking the author was just like, "hey, let's throw another ethnic group in there; you know, for flavor."
@@willhennessy864 I’m just surprised he missed that, because the host and I both grew up in rural, southern Baptist, Texas, and hating the hell out of arminians is practically tradition
I myself made that mistake once when I saw the Louis Theroux doc on the Westboro Baptist church. I was, oddly enough watching with an Armenian friend. The preacher dude started going OFF on Arminians, and I looked at my friend and said something like "Dude wtf! He's talking shit about your people!" And he looked confused for a sec before hitting me back with "He's saying ArmInians, dumbass." And then I looked up Arminians on Wikipedia, lol.
I would say, assuming it is a typo rather than looking further into it is a bit more egregious of an error, but yeah.
@@hrwise89 is that doc worth checking out? It seems like it might make a good hate-watch
@@joshwondra9821 for sure, I'd say. I don't know if you've seen other Louis Theroux stuff, but he's really good overall, and that one is no exception. I knew OF Westboro before but not their beliefs and their real story before. They are very fucked up. Good interviews with members who have left or been kicked out.
I love how this book is ostensibly about the flat earth but 9/10 times when you turn to a random page it’s just some unhinged antisemitic rant with the conclusion of each of these rants being “these people are telling you the earth is round.”
"Ancient guy in Egypt worked it out."
Eratosthenes!! :D one of my favorite ancient Greeks
But these disgusting liars said he calculated the circumference of the earth 3,000 years ago! Everyone knows that Eratosthenes lived around 2,300 years ago! Therefore, the Jews are conspiring to hide the flat earth!!
Dan Olson from the TH-cam channel Folding Ideas did a really solid breakdown of flat earth beliefs and why the shape of the earth is the least important part of what they believe. It explains everything you came across in that book.
OHHH yes! _In Search of Flat Earth_ was brilliant!
@@mookinbabysealfurmittens Sounds like an edgy discussion.
@@markrobinowitz8473 He's disproving flat earthers. What edgy?
@@markrobinowitz8473that joke made my day 😂
@@mookinbabysealfurmittens wooooosh ❤❤❤
Karl Marx did send Darwin a copy of 'Das Kapital', having been very impressed by 'On the Origin of Species'. Darwin did not read Marx's book, which is still in Darwin's library at Down House which is now a museum. In those days, publishers generally didn't cut the edges of the folded pages in a book, leaving it to owners to cut between each page. Darwin's copy does not have the pages cut, so he could not have read it. BTW, Marx's pal Friederick Engels was one of the first to propose that humans had evolved upright stance before large brains. For a very long time, the consensus was that big brains evolved first and upright stance only later, on the basis the 'highest races' were distinguished from the others by being smarter. Engels viewing labour as having primacy over capital got it right, as we now know.
In the mid-1800s, Marx wasn't quite the monster he's portrayed as today. He was barely on anyone's radar until he got involved with the First International in the 1860s-70s. There wasn't 150+ years of propaganda portraying him (and socialism/communism in general) as evil incarnate yet. So Darwin potentially having read Marx (whether he actually did or not) isn't particularly controversial. He was just one of many writers at the time, and not particularly well-known.
@@TheDarthbinky Also Darwin's ideas, and especially the interpretation of them that came to be called "Darwinism", are steeped in capitalist thought. People had proposed the basic concepts of evolution before Darwin, and arguably it was only his framing of it, which presents nature as working like capitalism, that resulted in its widespread popularity.
@@DStecks Right, he's especially indebted to Malthus, who basically paved the way for natural selection by talking about populations competing over scarces resources in an explicitly capitalistic context.
@TheDarthbinky
Communism is widely regarded as evil, because communism IS evil. Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot are bloody examples of this.
No. Darwin’s theory of evolution owes its origin to Hegel just like Marx’s theories. Prior to Hegel’s notion of the dialectic- the notion of change, of progression as opposed to stasis or cyclical change wasn’t really philosophical construct. The idea of change and motion and antagonisms creating and destroying and “evolving” is a 17-18th century concept. The whole idea of fundamental change- be it evolution, class struggle, or even Freudian notions of psychoanalysis and real development of human psyche all owes the fact that it can even be considered to Hegel’s introduction of the concepts of the dialectic and praxis. Prior to this human thought was informed by notions of the eternal, cyclic change (if any change) and the repetitive patterns of history, biology, and any other human experience.
20:54 the best part of that filmed experiment is that was the fallback after their initial attempt failed. They dropped $10k on a measuring device that proves we rotate at something like 15 degrees/hr. That device proved the flat earthers wrong and they fell back on the loght experiment, still wrong.
"I had a dungeon master once. He was a young earth creationist."😅😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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fun fact: while Egregore is not a monster in the dnd monster manual, it IS one in its spiritual sequel pathfinder, egregores are an actual concept in mysticism, basically think a tulpa(or a jojo stand) but manifested from a group instead of a single individual
cant believe Made in Heaven was the Egregore
How is pathfinder DnD's spiritual successor when DnD is still a thing? At most it is an offshoot, the "spiritual successor" and indeed successor to DnD is just the latest version of DnD which is still active.
@@louisvictor3473 no thats a normal sequel, a spiritual successor doesent actually require the original end (spin offs are still sequals after all) though in this ase it was designed specifically as 3.5s successor
@@seelcudoom1 You described an offshoot, champ.
@@louisvictor3473 ya and an offshoot of a game is a sequel, thus an offshoot thats not an official continuation is a spiritual sequel
The "scales falling from your eyes" bit at the beginning from the back of the book is most likely a biblical reference to an event where Jesus healed a blind man. Jesus mixed mud with his spit I believe, dipped his finger in that, touched the man's eyes, and scales fell from his eyes. His blindness was then cured and he could see. So that was probably trying to say that we've all been blind before realizing these truths about the flat earth or whatever. Probably nothing to do with lizard people, though I wouldn't be surprised if the author believes in that too.
I'm curious if the "scales" referred to in the original story were cataracts.
It's from the Bible, but this is the wrong bit. Jesus healed the blind man but no scales fell from his eyes.
Much later, after the Resurrection, Christianity is spreading, Paul (at this point very fervently Jewish) is going around inquisiting Christians. Jesus appears to him, tells him to cut it out, and strikes him blind. This convinces Paul that maybe he should rethink his theology and he goes to the house of a certain Christian lad whom Jesus tells to heal Paul and trust him.
The guy then heals Paul, and "something like fish scales" falls from his eyes.
@@critormiss6084 I tip my hat to you good sir or madam for your Biblical literacy! Bravo!
@@portmantologist Fun fact, if you read the Gospel of Luke and the Book of Acts (also by Luke) you can tell that Luke was a physician because he gives additional details on the healings Jesus and His apostles did. I mean it's the ancient world so don't expect Taber's but he DOES give some anatomical details.
rubbing spit mud in peoples eyes?? that is just downright disgusting
Here's a tiny lie in there that most people wouldn't catch: it's not possible that they changed the hatch on the Apollo 1 capsule "that morning". That thing was deeply integrated into the capsule, and would have taken months to change from inward-opening to outward. That's probably why NASA didn't change the hatch design even after the astronauts told them they didn't like it. Also, I don't know about the report that supposedly went missing, but there certainly were very long, detailed reports that covered many, many mistakes NASA had made that led to the deaths of those men. If they were trying to hide anything, they failed miserably. (My dad was there that morning, and the bottom of the rocket, waiting to go inspect the capsule after the test, is how come I know more about it, I should humble brag ... I mean, add.)
Thank you for speaking with such authority that we all take as fact.
@@cmfort2696 Anything anybody says is always just like, their opinion, man.
I assume everybody else knows this, so I don't waste time saying "This is just my opinion, but ..." because, ofc it's just my opinion. Some way you would rather that me from nearly a year ago should have phrased my comment?
IIRC, some of the rationale behind an inward-opening hatch because it's a design that seals better in space. The idea is that the air in the capsule would force the hatch outward, thus effectively vacuum-sealing it shut.
As to why the potential consequences of that choice (among others, such as the pressurized high-oxygen enviroment in that capsule) were missed, the Apollo program was running at an absolutely breakneck pace, and it's an absolute miracle that they didn't lose more flight crews than they did.
@@cmfort2696idk fucking google it all then bitch!!!
Greg, as in E-Greg-Gor?!!!!
People really slept on Cody's "in the Latin alphabet, Jehovah starts with an i" reference XD
36 minutes in, Cody's brain audibly snaps.
"Enemies Foreign and Domestic" hoooo boy it's been a minute, but hoooooo boy, y'all should do a Matt Bracken one of these days.
Would love to see the flat earthers and the hollow earthers debate, winner gets their own history channel show.
Why not make that debate the series?
Compromise: the earth is the lid of a massive barrel! In the barrel live lizards and ghouls and probably the og grand cyclops!
I think they both already have their own shows.
Ah, Christianity and conspiracy theories... two awful tastes that taste worse together
_"More Tramadol and Vegemite? I'll call the waiter over."_
This isn't even Christianity. Half of this was declared heresy 2000 years ago. It reads more like if Himmler had been obsessed with Gnosticism rather then Germanic pagans.
To be fair, almost all religions prime people for falling into conspiracy theories because they all require a level of tolerance for cognitive dissonance and faith in the illogical.
Arminian refers, in a nutshell, to the theological position of human free will, named for Dutch theologian Jacobus Arminius, taken by some Christians in opposition to Calvinism, or hard determinism. It has nothing to do with the region. Cheers.
54:16 This reminds me of the Rifftrax short "Is Corn Grass?" They ask the question at the beginning, but they never get around to answering it. Hello? Flat Earth? Scales from the eyes? You know? LOL.
I assume you know the answer, but if anyone doesn't, corn is indeed a grass.
Which means if you smoke weed through a corncob pipe...
55:22 - I think, at the core of it, they have sublimated a desire for self-actualization into a hero complex. And because capitalist society has very little use for heroes and in fact any hero not carefully managed could become a _people's_ hero, almost none of these chuds are going to be heroes because that's how the world works. The age of heroes is dead. Or, more accurately, never existed. Since their frustrated hero complex can't be reconciled with the pale, gray reality of our complex world, where such things as heroes are ostentatious and mostly unwanted, they create another in which they _can_ be a hero. Which again, is an abstracted form of self-actualization.
Society as it exists today has taken so much from us, and some people will do anything to avoid facing the truth.
Really interesting analysis
"In such a perspective everybody is educated to become a hero. In every mythology the hero is an exceptional being, but in Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death." Umberto Eco
I’ve been listening to this guy on podcast apps for 3 years now, first time listening to it on TH-cam, and Robert looks nothing like I expected. To be honest I don’t know what I was expecting… Love the pod
To my understanding one of the methods of figuring out the world was round is as simple as 'Watch a ship travel over the horizon and bend slightly while doing so' while another is 'draw a large triangle and accurately measure the angles' (though I think that one requires a triangle between cities, so I don't know in practice whether that was something anyone did, or if it's just presented as an example to demonstrate that the greeks had access to technology (the triangle) which made working this out simple.
Yep, that is pretty much it. It was an observation, and then eventually a nerd did the numbers (which was basically just some clever use of basic trigonometry, ihis cleverness was in putting some observations together to figure out he could set up a primary school trigonometry class problem to figure out the circumference). The technology the guy had access to was people to pace out the distance between two cities, some hear say about how a shadow looks out in the other city, a shadow, and his brain.
Eratosthenes wasn’t trying to prove the Earth was round, it was already common knowledge that the earth wasn’t flat. He wanted to figure out the size of the earth. The Greeks had deduced the Earth was a sphere from many different observations. Ships on the horizon was one, but a better one was lunar eclipses. They realised it was the earths shadow being cast on the moon and the shadow was always perfectly round. Only shape that always casts a round shadow is a sphere.
That being said triangles do prove the earth is round due to spherical excess. The internal angles of a triangle add up to 180 degrees except on a rounded surface where the angles add up to more than 180 degrees. Surveys that have been done all show this spherical excess. There’s some pretty good vids on TH-cam that explain it.
'The flat earth society has members all around the globe' 🎉
Shout out to Eratosthenes
Nice to have a relatively light-hearted episode.
hearing the mention of planes not working hits hard now. lmao
That the book drives directly into the realm of fantasy (and esotericism) is not surprising. Over a long enough timeline, all conspiracy theories must endow the conspiracy with supernatural power to fill the mounting logical gaps in the theory. "They" need to be so powerful to maintain the lie, they functionally become gods. All conspiracy theories trend towards a form of Gnosticism, where the god of the physical world is malicious and deceitful and all-powerful.
For the record, the way said Egyptian guy measured the circumference of the Earth was by measuring the distance between two towns and using the pength of shadows to compute the angular difference to the sun between the two places. Note that you can do that approximately correctly even without knowing the distance to the sun because it is so distant that light rays from the sun arrive very very nearly parallel.
The method used for determining the circumference of the globe in Egypt:
1) Measure the distance between two points.
2) Plant a pole of known length at each of those points.
3) Wait until the Sun shines directly downward on one of those poles, casting no shadow.
4) Measure the length of the shadow cast by the other pole.
You now have all the information you need to estimate the radius of the Earth.
You now have a pair of similar triangles. The first is the triangle of pole, shadow and the invisible line joining the tip of each. The second is the triangle of core, shadowless pole and pole with shadow, with the length of the pole roughly equivalent to the radius of the Earth. At that point, it's simply a matter of determining ratios.
tbf a lot of names in d&d and fantasy take some sounds from [ancient] hebrew names. egregor is from the book of enoch, and is a word used a lot in the occult.
but anti-semites often conflate occultism and kabbalah, so colour me unsurprised.
I think technically the kaballah might be occult, but from a jewish conservative sect thing thats not what we usually would call occult. ok its maybe more obscure mysticism but close enough.
ot that allthat ancient names arent everywhere in popculture no matter from where
I'm not sure if they appear in any old obscure dnd books but the Egregore _is_ a cr10 aberration in a pathfinder bestiary. Not just a borrowed word either, the PF Egregore is a being created by the collective consciousness of an evil cult, which results in a 'cult mind,' basically a hive mind, which grants bonuses to the cult members which created it. Some real c'thulu shit, and also the kind of entry you can build an entire campaign around.
(13:29) I can't get over the flat-earthers not defining _rulers of the Earth_ as some sort of divine drafting instruments.
I'm going to assume that we're dealing with early Zoastrian logic with the planets and they're just demons chained to the stars (They're a big globe with rings because that's what demons look like apparently)
As someone who had never heard of Arminian Christianity, as soon as Robert Evans said "it's not even spelled right!" I kind of rolled my eyes and thought, oh okay so they're probably not talking about Armenians then?
To be fair, i made a similar mistake myself years ago; some antisemite was talking Christian theology at me, and he said "arianism" (as in nontrinitarianism) but I didn't know what that meant and mistakenly assumed he was referring to aryanism, the racial concept.
There _is_ Armenian Christianity, though. The Armenian Church is absolutely a thing. They're pretty orthodox, from what I recall. (My memory is terrible; that's the extent of my recollection.)
@@mookinbabysealfurmittens Sure but Arminianism is a branch of Calvinism and had a lot of influence in most North American evangelical denominations. The Arminian are also the target of a lot of old European conspiracy theories while the Armenians are only really the target of Turkish conspiracy theories.
@@FakeSchrodingersCat I just said that the Armenian Church is a thing. And that it's nothing to do with the "arminian" thing, which I didn't know about and don't really care cos it seems like conspiracy bollocks. Cheers, though.
@@FakeSchrodingersCatarminianism is NOT a branch of calvinism. In fact, it could be described as the anti-calvinism.
@@What-lt3lj You are right, I overstated the connection. It was a direct reaction to the rise of Calvinism and rejection of predestination.
Though I would argue that just like Lutheranism was an offshoot of Catholicism viewed as a reformation correcting errors in doctrine, Arminianism's framing of their beliefs specifically as a rejection of Calvinist ideas of predestination is a valid link. Outside of that disagreement they share a lot of common theology.
I've read a few accounts of the Perimeter Defense (AKA: "Dead Hand") system and there's a lot of disagreement between them, which you'd expect of a secret nuclear defense project in the waning days of the USSR. One version holds that it was proposed to Soviet military command, who turned it down in disgust. Another states that it was approved and built, mainly to mollify hard-liners who wanted to launch a preemptive attack on the US in response to the "Star Wars" initiative. There's versions of the story insisting everything between.
The whole "boiled pig anuses" thing took me back to my youth, watching Amy Poehler on the Upright Citizen's Brigade TV show. "OH NO PIG ANUSES" . . .
Thank you for that!
3:51 I think it’s called a blurb.
Correct
What if we're Gawd's toadstool?! (Gasp!) What if,... we're Gawd's,... squatty potty?!
If god had a squatty potty maybe he'd be more chill and stop turning people into salt for looking at things funny
@@DoveAlexa god was just a baby then, who amongst us hasn't turned somebody into salt when they were a toddler, or killed 99.9% of the planet in a fit of teen angst?
Arminians refers not to the country or people of Armenia but followers of the teacher Arminius, a Biblical theologian. Arminianism is in opposition to Calvinism taught by (among many) John Calvin during the Reformation. In very broad terms, Arminians believe that humans must place their faith in Jesus and God of their own free will and volition, whereas Calvinists believe that humans inherently resist God's offer of salvation because of sin and that only through an act of grace on God's part can the human being perceive it's sin and need for Jesus and therefore come to Him in faith. Free will vs. determinism, essentially.
53:36 Phosphorus can be hard to come by in some soils and it is one of the 3 major plant nutrients.
Battlefields where the dead are buried on location have concentrations of calcium phosphate, calcium being another essential nutrient and alkaline metal capable of liming soil.
I'm not saying that the very people who spread the blood libel myth were likely eating bread grown with the bones of dead soldiers, but I might be lying about that first part of this sentence.
I thought Egregore was a demon from Shin Megami Tensei usually vulnerable to lightning. So the next time you see someone egregoring, try casting some Zio on them.
I mean, with very pointed exceptions, all smt demons are actual characters from mythology, pop culture, urban legends or religions
Listening to this was great fun, loved the pod!
Thank you for listening to the pod!
Jews jews jews ...
Who wrote this crazy shit Kanye west?
good one
Who's this Kanye west dude?
Is he related to yedolf by chance?
@@alucard347 Yung Hitty, I think they called him.
If Kanye were literate he might write a book like this.
It's humorous to me that the text of the book ends on page 616 since that's the actual "number of the Beast". I wonder if somebody did that on purpose as a joke?
I hope you weren't sober when you read these excerpts. Reminds me of a fun evening when a friend showed me his copy of the Book of Mormon and we read random sections (not sober). And "Egregore" reminds me of a character from Winnie the Pooh.
Do NOT take a drink everytime you read 'and they muttered', you will die. Or 'and it came to pass'
The bit on the back of the book is called the blurb.
Hollow Earth Expedition is actually a fun pulpy exploration TTRPG. So at least we got that from that crazy idea.
Am i too late to get in on the Egregor summoning?
"Classic Karl Marx. He's like the Hamburglar."
Gotta one of my favorite Robert quotes.
not cody with the dril reference, amazing
Flatearth map reward now at $70,675,239 ANTARCTICA IS NOW OPTIONAL! All flatearthers use the exact same map of Earth for directions so, I just want to know.... WHAT'S THE FREEKEN HOLD UP DUDES?! Seriously, what's the delay? Still not enough money??? [Seriously, where’s the map?]
I'm a communist, for a while now, and I've never heard of Egregor. Maybe that's just a manifestation of the Communist Order's lack of confidence in my potential. 🤷♂
39:21 "Fauna and flora prove the earth is flat"
Well, Merriweather says it's bullsht and she was always my favorite.
What a wild book. Damn.
You're Cody no one is saying humans came from apes because humans are apes. Apes are the branch of Old World primates who don't possess prehensile tails and includes chimpanzees, bonobos, gorillas, urangutans, and hominids of which Homo sapiens is the only surviving species.
11:30 - This whole idea is really well exemplified by the fact that the Earth is in what's called the 'Goldilocks Zone', a perfect expression of being medium. Not too hot, not too cold, just right. :)
the root of Bourgeoisie is burrow (settlement) bergs (fortified settlement - in europe) burghers (those who live in the burrows and bergs)
The Greatest Story Ever Told = Christofascist
The Greatest Story Never Told = Fascist
The Greatest Lie Ever Told = Flat earth fascist
The Greatest Lie Ever Sold = Christofascist
They're not very creative.
I support Darless Godwinism
"Hey baby, wanna come over to my place and see my Egregore?"
The agregor(sp?) part sounds like the plot of ffxiv
Poor Cody, he sounds like he's losing his mind
Hey guys, egregor here
Hello, I'm a famous businessman and philanthropist, David Egregorian, from Belgium. And I'm looking for people who would produce educational videos about how our Earth is a Globe for 10 million dollars.
MTG bedside reading confirmed.
36:12 Robert layin’ down some truth, as a giggling bon mot.
Arminians =/= Armenians.
(...)
Canada and Norway are in no way medium.
At 37, yet to hear it once in all audio media, **this** show has given me _2_ mentions of skinks - _so far!_ - and leaves me with a sense of well-directed anticipation of further skink speak in some of the ~400 extant episodes, plus the future releases this new fan and subscriber is excited to experience!
Oh and I think it's fine that Johnston and Stoll are allowed to hang out, too, I guess. Their show is okay and stuff JK Y'ALL - I AM ECSTATIC TO HEAR SOME MOAR OF THE SOME MORE-ONS I ALREADY LOVE SO MUCH!
I desperately want to know how flora and fauna proves the earth is flat.
Oh for f’s sake. Darwin wasn’t an atheist. He was closer to a deist
Yeah, pretty much every European scholar of note prior to the 1900s was a person of some kind of faith. Not only is atheism as a concept somewhat new to the West, but the whole science-vs-religion nonsense is iirc a manufactured culture war that started in the early 1900s.
The 'egregor' thing probably comes from the golem myth.
"Flat Earth: for when you get tired of defending Biblical slavery!"
Arminians are a reference to Jacobus Arminius, y'all. He was a theologian who developed a variation of Calvinist ideas called Arminianism after himself. It's not a reference to Armenia or Armenians. It ain't even spelled the same way.
I find their mention of relatively very telling. Here is a thing, the roundness of earth has pretty much fuck all to do with relativity. Heck, it barely has to do with physics. It is an observation, be it from the pictures taken from space, or from observing how things work and doing some basic primary school mathematical derivation (which is literally what the guy from 300 BCE used, it is really simple trigonometry - cleverly applied to reality, but still really simple). Heck, classical/newtonian mechanics could be proven wrong, congrats we now would have no clue why it is round them... still wouldn't change that it is round, because that is above all an observation, not a conclusion derived from physics equations and theory. In short, they mentioning it as if it matters just reinforces they've 0 idea wtf they're talking about.
A similar thing occurs with people who argue against evolution without comprehending that the explanation came about thousands of years after the observation that it happens, and thus it doesn't matter who said what when, we still evolved.
Relativity really pisses authoritarians off because it calls into question their idea of how the universe works.
The slave states wanted slaves counted the same as anyone else. This was all for the purpose of assigning congressional districts. The free states didn't want slaves to be counted at all for that purpose. That doesn't mean the slave states were the good guys and free states bad because the former wanted to count slaves and the latter didn't. Both were angling to power in the House where population counted.
How the heck are satellites supposed to work on a flat earth??
ABS is always be SKANKIN. Robert has let down the ska community
and yet, somehow, i am not surprised.
Maybe they think the flat earth is held up by an infinite column of turtles.😅
A bunch of matchbooks shoved under the wobbly table legs?
@beantoes9627 😅
Aside from everything else (and that is a big aside) doesn't the Torah also describe the earth as being flat with the firmament and all that, and that's part of the same books that got reused in the Bible?
Just recently started noticing the likes and am astonished.
Maybe the dinosaurs are hiding behind skyscrapers too?
Nobody expects the Armenians!
People have already commented about this, but I wanted to give a bit of a summary of Arminianism, perhaps to get into the weeds a bit into the minutia of Christian theology. The sect was named after the guy who made the doctrine Jacobus Arminus/Jakob Hermanszoon, and has no relation to the Armenian Apostolic Church. (The second syllable "min" rhymes with "bin" not "lean".) Many of these views revolve around Christian ideas of salvation from sin or "soteriology". To understand it, it is good to start not with Arminianism itself but with Calvinism. This might seem odd, but I do it because Arminianism was made as a direct opposition and response to Calvinism, so knowing it makes it easier to understand what Arminians argue for.
Calvinist traditions are frequently described with the acronym TULIP to describe salvation from sin through sovereign grace of God:
- Total depravity: People cannot fully redeem ourselves by our own free will, only God can through His grace.
- Unconditional election: Some people have been chosen to be redeemed independent of any qualities they may have.
- Limited atonement: Only some people get redeemed. Not everyone.
- Irresistible grace: The elect may reflect these values or convert to them.
- Perseverance of the saints: The elect are often drawn to God's grace in the end.
("Saints" in this context is just a description of those with faith in Christianity.)
The opposing Arminian perspective's "Five Articles of Remonstrance" put emphasis on individual free will:
- Total depravity: While people cannot fully redeem ourselves and need God's grace, it is up to the individual to accept it.
- Conditional election: Being redeemed is contingent on believing in Christianity.
- Unlimited atonement: Anyone who believes in Christ gets salvation.
- Prevenient grace: God's grace is provided to everyone but people can resist it.
- Conditional preservation of the saints: The elect are drawn to God's grace once the decision is made on the condition that they still have faith.
A lot of mental power in the Medieval and Reformation periods in Christian areas was being devoted to untangling the Trinitarian Doctrine and word issues like this one. It is still a bit suspicious that the flat-earth book goes full-bore into an attack on Arminianism, especially considering the relevance to the subject at hand seems to be tangential at best. What relevance would squabbles between Dutch theologians regarding the specifics of Christian soteriology have in a discussion about re-writing the laws of physics?
Where is gorbo
Wow good expose of flat earth conspiracy
8:13 rather bold of them to assume they know what god looks like .. maybe he looks like a ape they dont knnow :P
I refuse to acknolwege God looks like Bush.
@@louisvictor3473 lmao
I happen to like South Park's portrayal of that god as a weird deformed dwarf hippo thing that is entirely unlike anything we're led to expect because while I don't think there are any gods, it seems reasonable to suspect that if one did exist, we could easily be very wrong about it in very basic ways.
That said, if "God made Man in his own image" then god is clearly a monkey and statistically about 10% gay.
Hendrigore and the Hendersons.
The egregore came up to me, tears in its eyes and said...
Big strong guy, said, "Sir"...
I'm disappointed in the Flat Earthers. I wanted to hear about a young earth creationist offshoot mythology, not antisemitism 😩
The Empty Man core
Egregor is used in the Desriny franchise. Lol
The word Egregore has lost all meaning, and it didn't have much to begin with
Cody needs to grow up. I love God's feet.
I had to stop the last one about dead Instagram babies but this is doable in my state
Because we all know 'j' word space lizards keep us controlled by space lasers to perceive the world as flat. And the famous doc Arrested Development killed me.
"former jew" is when they become non lizards and stop firing lasers and the planet goes fucking round
don't forget the flat earth grifters who know it's horseshit
I'd like to imagine that the author meant if we stopped hating jewish folk, they will disappear.
Oh, dear, a lot of bad history in this one on the part of the podcasters. Communism is much older than Marx. The early Christian communities were communist internally actually living according to 'from each according to his ability to each according to his means'. Marx kind of applied 'Enlightenment' thinking and an analytical framework to a very old idea of how society would best be organized for human well-being.
why do american people assume engineers are especially smart? Is it because higher ed is expensive, hence exclusive, in the US? I'm Indian. Here if you spit in any direction, you're bound to end up assaulting 5 different types of engineers
Hmm, maybe it's just because in the US we have a high proportion of people who do non-stem jobs? I really don't know. But engineers take a lot of math classes, usually do math in their jobs (I assume), and it's got more practical application than things like teaching or theoretical physics (and that practical application tends to be associated with common sense, so we think of them as having two kinds of intelligence.) That's just a quick theory with absolutely no research, though!
That's a very long and complicated topic. The quick and dirty answer is American culture has this faux-meritocratic idea that if you have a job that involves a lot of book-learning and that pays well (the money part is important; academics aren't seen as being as special,) then you clearly must be very smart. This feeds the ego of some--some not most-- members of the trade classes who try to wave their credentials around to mark themselves as an authority in fields they have no training in. This is especially bad with the military when someone joins up for a two-year-tour of palette-pushing, officially becomes a "vet," and believe that somehow qualifies them to be experts on politics.
Because engineers and most stem lords here act like self important snobs. They think they are part of the group that builds society and so are the most important people, which leads to big headedness in a hyper individualistic nation like America. There are many other issues that play into it too, like education being paywalled as you mentioned. The average American reads at a third grade level.
So ancient jews created a chaos god? Good to know.
IMMEDIATELY DEMONITIZED
Fucking youtube tells you the earth is round for watching this. I know it's been a while but headpats for fighting disinfo even when misapplied.
Recently noticed that all the 2020 United States election videos are getting a 2024 Donald Trump wins quote unquote correction to them. I don't think TH-cam's put any effort into improving their code/algo/whatever in a decade.
Love from a SirSic and Vaush fan!
Arminians as in arminian free will not Armenians as in people from Armenia.