Very humble guy, you can tell a lot of love and passion went into this. 3sge beams is such an iconic engine that many couldn't have the chance to experience.
I've just BEAMS swapped my S13 all the way out in Cape Town South Africa and now I've come across your channel! Great build and definitely some inspiration for me going forward. Keep up the great work🙌
This is really impressive as im doing a budget build on a 3sge beams but im using a small td04l and 440cc injectors from wrx and im gonna use a thicker head gasket
I have everything for my turbo set up next summer except for injectors I’d like to know exactly which ones if you don’t mind so I can run the same check out my bill, check out yours th-cam.com/video/8C8AAOaU_kw/w-d-xo.html
About to do this motor swap in my 1980 Fiat Spider. My beams is still stock NA but would like to put on a turbo also. Do you mind sharing what you needed to do for that motor/electronics wise?
Nice build love when people put the beams and everything your bill is awesome one question did use excessive manufacturing throttle Insert that allows you to get Max throttle because it’s amazing on mine
We are using clutchxperts flywheel and the stock throw out bearing. We had originally tried the clutchxperts clutch and it was fine but Martin wanted more grab for the flick and upgraded the clutch but kept the flywheel
Hey man your swap is very nice, i got myself a beams red top for my celica t18 but im not quite sure about what trans and clutch i need.. could you give me some tips for my project? Greetings from germany
Thank you! The J160 transmission has held up very well for us, I think it comes down to clutch selection to make it last. We had a custom clutch built for ours (which you can buy if you want).
Working on a beams swap for my s13. Curious what you did with your power steering setup. It seems many people run without the stock power steering pump.
Yeah there is quite a bit different internally. I think if you are interested in building a setup like this maybe look into buying the manual version and swapping. I'm not sure if you can use the same mounts and whether there is a hole for the shifter but you'll have to look into that.
False, the steel valves are actually better for boost this is common on beams forums for people to swap in auto engines to a j160 because the steel valves hold under boost better.
I have a beams swapped 1980 rx7. I used the stock beams motor mounts and modified the rx7 crossmember. Very simple to do and it puts the shifter very close to the stock location.
@@pauloakes6952 good to know, I am waiting on parts going to rebuild the engine bottom to top with the Garrett turbo. I want to keep it around 500 plus.. will send pics in the future..
@@omd_sd I was wondering which of them, because I heard that auto is better for turbo builds because of steel valves but on the other hand every I see is from manual lol
NA beams would be great as a low power practice drift car for sure. 200hp is enough to practice and learn how to drift, then you can turbo it later when you're ready to step up your drifting.
Yes, but this turbo set up feels like a juiced up NA, not really any lag and rpm climbs up smooth and fast! I still haven’t unlocked its full potential so I’m gonna go back practicing soon!
Yes, with the stock 11.5:1 compression the engine still makes about 200 hp off boost. When you lower compression you can run more boost, but sometimes you lose that off boost power.
altezza was a brand new platform that costs less than the SS3 celica in 98. dont know what the eff they were thinking. the basically revived a 4 door celica that had shit interior and terrible aerodynamics. missed opportunity to make the celica rwd and continue on from its 3rd gen predecessor
I always thought they introduced the Altezza as another JDM alternative to the e46, but what you brought up could be a different way of looking at it's demise.I could still remember best motoring were pitting this against the s2000 and the rx-8 as the most budget friendly "new-type NA" back when it just came out.
@@K0Y0I_sis the world was ready for a ae86 successor, which toyota sort of answered with the altezza. you got a rwd 2.0 litr engine but a heavy 3000lb chassis. the fact is, that the aftermarket support was so huge for the sxe10, it showed that people were willing to pay good money for a good quality rwd celica for the new generation. just look at the evolution of the IS now. they had the ISF, RCF and now an IS500. celica's used to compete with for mustang back in the 70's. toyota ultimately failed to answer the call for a RWD sports car and the Subaru BRZ literally smacked toyota across the face with it
hey martin! Big fan of your Beams build on your S14 and knew you threw watching Joshs channel (E_ought) , i was hoping i had a couple of questions on my build on my channel. I have a Is300 with a NA 2JZ Auto and im getting alot of advices and opinions to keep the 2J and get a R154 swap on it and boost it and call it a day. As im in your situation the money on the 2JZ and R154 transmissions are just WAY more on my budget. I was hoping you can give me some pointers on moving to a Altezza Beams motor with a manual transmission and go boost like your build. Hit me up on my IG LAUNCH D. thanks!
Hey man, thank you for the support. Really there's not a whole lot to the Beams swap. A good quality turbo is definitely very important. We use the G25 660 .92 AR. And then you have to use e85 to keep the internal engine temps down. Lastly it's setting up the cams and cam timing. Firstly we opened up the gap to allow extra expansion from heat and then set our own cam timing without VVTi. Best of luck 🤙🏽
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Finally a TH-cam video that shows the capability of this beautiful motor! Love it my dude she sounds sickkk🤙🏼
Very humble guy, you can tell a lot of love and passion went into this. 3sge beams is such an iconic engine that many couldn't have the chance to experience.
I had beams swap too to but in a starlet KP 61 chassis, you pick a good engine.
cheers mate.
Nice! I have a KP with a 08' busa swap haha. Really hoping to have that running again this year too!!!
I've just BEAMS swapped my S13 all the way out in Cape Town South Africa and now I've come across your channel! Great build and definitely some inspiration for me going forward. Keep up the great work🙌
Thank you! And that's awesome that people are doing it throughout the world!! 🤙🏻
@@omd_sd Agreed! Always cool seeing what other guys are up to..👌
I have a G35 sedan that I'm either 3SGE or 1GR-FE swapping, haven't decided yet, but this is awesome 👍
Can't get enough of this engine set up.
Neither can we 😂
This is so sick! :) Trying to get my turbo altezza on track next summer. Videos coming then ;)
Best of luck!!
So many people sleep on the Beams, and idk why. It's a great engine and it REVS TO DA MOON
🚀🚀 TO DA MOON
Those beams look so sick
I love the beams engine ! The sound is so unique and beautiful 😍
YESSS! I love it!
Love seeing the Beams picking up out here
This is really impressive as im doing a budget build on a 3sge beams but im using a small td04l and 440cc injectors from wrx and im gonna use a thicker head gasket
Best of luck man!
I have everything for my turbo set up next summer except for injectors I’d like to know exactly which ones if you don’t mind so I can run the same check out my bill, check out yours th-cam.com/video/8C8AAOaU_kw/w-d-xo.html
@@amp_86 the injectors im using are the blue 440cc 02-06 wrx injectors
putting one in my gs300, nice build mane
Go Martin. Always doing the best work, sticking to Japanese mindset. See you soon buddy.
🤙🏽
Thanks for sharing Marten
3S won a lot races in the 90’s, made over 800hp 😮
Im putting together an rx8 with one of these! so excited!
Hell yeah, good luck!
can't wait to beams swap my s13!!
Do that engine mounts works on a s13?
About to do this motor swap in my 1980 Fiat Spider. My beams is still stock NA but would like to put on a turbo also. Do you mind sharing what you needed to do for that motor/electronics wise?
Aww I wanna do this to my beams swapped cressida, running an ITB setup on it now hopefully I can build a spare motor like this on the side
It's been super successful for Martin so far. Closing in on two years with no major issues (that includes easily 15+ drift days)
@@omd_sd would you mind if you dm'd like pricing on getting a turbo manifold and average pricing
X7?
@@Pan_Gotti yea i had it for a bit then sold it off sadly, i do miss it
it was the best drift car tbh
Listen, EXCELENT VIDEO. GREAT JOB
The price of beams just went theough the roof! But you are about to make a killing in the schassis world with this swap.
Hahaha, people gotta jump on it before they get too expensive 🤣
@@omd_sd I wish I still had an rx-7 so I can get your angle kit... 🤷🏽♂️
How would you feel about making an affordable kit for my e90?
We don't really mess with BMWs and don't have the experience and R&D on the platform haha
Lol its a good thing i own 3 beams and 1jz for back up 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It did come with a turbo the 3s gte in the caldina gt four
Nice build love when people put the beams and everything your bill is awesome one question did use excessive manufacturing throttle Insert that allows you to get Max throttle because it’s amazing on mine
Thank you! And no this car is using a skunk2 throttle body it's been great for Martin so far.
What flywheel and throwout bearing are u running? I did a 3sge beams swap to my scion frs.
Awesome work and that thing sounds amazing turboed
We are using clutchxperts flywheel and the stock throw out bearing. We had originally tried the clutchxperts clutch and it was fine but Martin wanted more grab for the flick and upgraded the clutch but kept the flywheel
Hey man your swap is very nice, i got myself a beams red top for my celica t18 but im not quite sure about what trans and clutch i need.. could you give me some tips for my project?
Greetings from germany
Thank you! The J160 transmission has held up very well for us, I think it comes down to clutch selection to make it last. We had a custom clutch built for ours (which you can buy if you want).
@@omd_sd thanks alot my friend, I think I have the s53 or 54 in my celica.. Do I need a jew one or can I keep it.
Thank you very much for your help❤️
Brotary ! 🙏🏽
Love the build about to turbo mine it’s in a ke70. What injectors and fuel rail are you running?
Thank you, Best of luck with your build! We are using the OEM rail but modified it to use AN lines and then upgraded to 1600cc Denso injectors.
Any thoughts of itb intake an boost box
Amazing man
Thank you!
Love the swap what wiring set up are you running on the beams
Our own custom wiring harness. With DTA fast ECU and gauge cluster
Is the Dual vvti still enabled with your toda cam gears or it is just static?
We got rid of the variable cam timing and set it up fixed where we wanted it
@@omd_sd how do you like it without vvt-I?
The engine came turbo on the 3SGTE, the beams was rwd and the gte was awd and in the mr2 rwd
Yes but that had a different valve train.
@@omd_sd ah okay then yes correct, completely forgot about that
was the turbo manifold built in house? It's quite rare to find one for the block top 3sge...
Yes it was, as was the stainless steel exhaust flange
Man I would to copy n paste this to my is300 !
Working on a beams swap for my s13. Curious what you did with your power steering setup. It seems many people run without the stock power steering pump.
We used the stock pump, but we made a CNC bracket to relocate it so we could make the Turbo manifold correctly.
is this do able with the auto version?? lmk asap. i have a altezza with this engine but its auto
Not really. There is quite a bit different for the manual car.
@@omd_sd the auto version has less compression than the MT version
Yeah there is quite a bit different internally. I think if you are interested in building a setup like this maybe look into buying the manual version and swapping. I'm not sure if you can use the same mounts and whether there is a hole for the shifter but you'll have to look into that.
False, the steel valves are actually better for boost this is common on beams forums for people to swap in auto engines to a j160 because the steel valves hold under boost better.
So automatic engines are definitely turbo-able yes lol, but you will have to swap your trans, not your motor.
Good afternoon, I am doing the same swap into 1983 First generation Rx7. I was wondering if those engines mounts would work. Thanks,
So these mounts are designed around the 240sx chassis and likely wouldn't work on the rx7 chassis.
@@omd_sd thanks much.
I have a beams swapped 1980 rx7. I used the stock beams motor mounts and modified the rx7 crossmember. Very simple to do and it puts the shifter very close to the stock location.
@@pauloakes6952 good to know, I am waiting on parts going to rebuild the engine bottom to top with the Garrett turbo. I want to keep it around 500 plus.. will send pics in the future..
Did I missed or you dont said that it is from auto altezza or manual? Which G 1-5 head it is?
Manual. At this point we've used both the G1 and G3 engines.
@@omd_sd I was wondering which of them, because I heard that auto is better for turbo builds because of steel valves but on the other hand every I see is from manual lol
@@aaabbb9953 Yeah we actually currently have an auto engine in this car haha. Titanium valves can potentially get brittle with heat from turbo.
@@omd_sd Idk what about you, but in my country cost of 2x auto beams = 1x manual beams ... :)
@@aaabbb9953 same here haha.
How does does or would a na beams s14 feel, want to engine swap mine since the ka shit itself. Thinking about beams motor.
NA beams would be great as a low power practice drift car for sure. 200hp is enough to practice and learn how to drift, then you can turbo it later when you're ready to step up your drifting.
So the throttle response is great even before the turbo kicks in? Would you say it still has a N/A feel to it before the turbo kicks in?
Yes, but this turbo set up feels like a juiced up NA, not really any lag and rpm climbs up smooth and fast! I still haven’t unlocked its full potential so I’m gonna go back practicing soon!
Yes, with the stock 11.5:1 compression the engine still makes about 200 hp off boost. When you lower compression you can run more boost, but sometimes you lose that off boost power.
I wish I could beam swap my ae71 corolla
did you get a custom driveshaft made? or did you buy a pre fabbed one
We had a custom one made. We actually sell them on our website too.
@@omd_sd does it work for s13 as well?
Never saw this reply... Whoops. Sorry about that. And we have one for the s13 as well that is a slightly different length.
What intercooler is that?
We use Bell Intercoolers.
Did you cancel the vvti system?
We sure did. Set our own custom cam timing with Toda racing cam gears.
How is it holding together?
Fantastic
Do That engine mounts works for a s13?
Yes they do. We have the mount kit available on our website. omdsandiego.com
Hi mate. What size injectors?
Denso 1600cc
What turbo?
G25-660
Gotta grab a Beams b4 they hit sr20 prices
Awesome build. What turbo are you using and when does your boost kick in?
Thank you! We are using Garrett G25 660 .92 AR. Boost comes on pretty solid around 2500rpm and pulls to 8k
11.5:1 not 12.5:1 but sick car! love my beams
Haha yeah Martin must've been thinking of my Busa engine 😂
🔥
altezza was a brand new platform that costs less than the SS3 celica in 98. dont know what the eff they were thinking. the basically revived a 4 door celica that had shit interior and terrible aerodynamics. missed opportunity to make the celica rwd and continue on from its 3rd gen predecessor
A rwd Celica with that engine definitely would've been fun. Much lighter platform.
I always thought they introduced the Altezza as another JDM alternative to the e46, but what you brought up could be a different way of looking at it's demise.I could still remember best motoring were pitting this against the s2000 and the rx-8 as the most budget friendly "new-type NA" back when it just came out.
@@K0Y0I_sis the world was ready for a ae86 successor, which toyota sort of answered with the altezza. you got a rwd 2.0 litr engine but a heavy 3000lb chassis. the fact is, that the aftermarket support was so huge for the sxe10, it showed that people were willing to pay good money for a good quality rwd celica for the new generation. just look at the evolution of the IS now. they had the ISF, RCF and now an IS500. celica's used to compete with for mustang back in the 70's. toyota ultimately failed to answer the call for a RWD sports car and the Subaru BRZ literally smacked toyota across the face with it
What ecu? This seems interesting to run in my s14
We are using DTA fast. British based open wheel racing ECU. They have been great for us for 10+ years.
how much HP has?
This car is street tuned so we aren't totally sure, but we'd guess around 300-350 whp
@@omd_sd would be great to see the dyno figures
Toms altezza ???? Turbo!!!
s15/ altezza..... similar gear box ironically
J160
Yup
Noisy video
Sorry about that! I'm getting better these days I promise haha
hey martin! Big fan of your Beams build on your S14 and knew you threw watching Joshs channel (E_ought) , i was hoping i had a couple of questions on my build on my channel. I have a Is300 with a NA 2JZ Auto and im getting alot of advices and opinions to keep the 2J and get a R154 swap on it and boost it and call it a day. As im in your situation the money on the 2JZ and R154 transmissions are just WAY more on my budget. I was hoping you can give me some pointers on moving to a Altezza Beams motor with a manual transmission and go boost like your build. Hit me up on my IG LAUNCH D. thanks!
Hey man, thank you for the support. Really there's not a whole lot to the Beams swap. A good quality turbo is definitely very important. We use the G25 660 .92 AR. And then you have to use e85 to keep the internal engine temps down. Lastly it's setting up the cams and cam timing. Firstly we opened up the gap to allow extra expansion from heat and then set our own cam timing without VVTi. Best of luck 🤙🏽