The Lord of the Rings - The Fellowship of the Ring Reaction! The Only LotR I've Seen before Part 2!
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Hey Veggie, just a small tidbit of lore from someone who's not 100% on top of everything: At 40:31, when Gimli recounts how he asked Galadriel of one strand of her hair but was given three instead, this has INCREDIBLE significance for Legolas (or any Elf for that matter)
In the Silmarillion, there is a story about an Elf called Fëanor, who was basically the most badass and best-est of Elves there is. He was basically the prodigy of them all. And he asked Galadriel for a strand of her hair, exactly how Gimli did it - but Galadriel, being able to sense that he was greedy at heart, denied him this gift. And so he asked twice more after "proving himself" each time, for a total of three times asked. Still she denied him. This is why Galadriel giving Gimli three hairs when he asked for one is so important; it basically means that this "random", humble dwarf is more worthy of her admiration and gift than Fëanor, three times over - a notion that Legolas immediately understands, being an Elf himself. It's one of the many reasons they become so good friends in the end.
Yeah, the books are full of amazing references like that.
Love the meaning of this gift, there is only one thing i dislike in this comment. Fëanor was a jerk😂 you want to talk about the best elf you can mention Fingolfin or Gil-galad or Finrod or Luthien, but you picked Fëanor, the man who was responsable for the kin slaying and the burning of the ships and convinced the Noldor of being Thralls to the Valar😂 Gil-Galad along with Elendil fought and beat Sauron. Fingolfin challenged Melkor in a duel and managed to wound and weaken him. Finrod gave his life for Beren so that Beren could go on and finish his quest. And Luthien put Melkor to sleep with her song, along with Beren started a bloodline that changed the course of history. Anyway this is all a joke you can like Fëanor if you want… (not really though😂)
Also Galadriel was famed for her beauty, especially her hair. It was said that her hair ensnared the light from the Trees of Valinor (trees created by the gods to supply light before even the sun existed) it’s also a meaningful olive branch given the history of animosity between Elves and Dwarves
Alas, another important part of the story is missing from your description. Fëanor asked for a strand of hair from Galadriel’s head. Gimli however asked for hair from, elsewhere on her body, and Galadriel was overdue to shave that off anyway.
Feanor would have used her hair to create gemstones... and a dwarf of course would also favor this quality .
Regarding gimlis gift,. It is a very touching scene that deserves explanation. From the book:
"“‘And what gift would a Dwarf ask of the Elves?’ said Galadriel, turning to Gimli.
‘None, Lady,’ answered Gimli. ‘It is enough for me to have seen the Lady of the Galadhrim, and to have heard her gentle words.’
‘Hear all ye Elves!’ she cried to those about her. ‘Let none say again that Dwarves are grasping and ungracious! Yet surely, Gimli son of Glóin, you desire something that I could give? Name it, I bid you! You shall not be the only guest without a gift.’
‘There is nothing, Lady Galadriel,’ said Gimli, bowing low and stammering. ‘Nothing, unless it might be - unless it is permitted to ask, nay, to name a single strand of your hair, which surpasses the gold of the earth as the stars surpass the gems of the mine. I do not ask for such a gift. But you commanded me to name my desire.’
The Elves stirred and murmured with astonishment, and Celeborn gazed at the Dwarf in wonder, but the Lady smiled. ‘It is said that the skill of the Dwarves is in their hands rather than in their tongues,’ she said; ‘yet that is not true of Gimli. For none have ever made to me a request so bold and yet so courteous. And how shall I refuse, since I commanded him to speak? But tell me, what would you do with such a gift?’
‘Treasure it, Lady,’ he answered, ‘in memory of your words to me at our first meeting. And if I ever return to the smithies of my home, it shall be set in imperishable crystal to be a heirloom of my house, and a pledge of good will between the Mountain and the Wood until the end of days.’
The amazing thing is that EVERYONE in the Fellowship was good-hearted and heroic. Even Boromir was merely a tragic character, not a villain--he was honorable and brave. But the Ring would have eventually corrupted them all, which shows just how horrific it was.
Boromir has an absolutely amazing character arc from start to finish. When we first meet him in Rivendell, he acts openly hostile towards Aragorn, saying "Gondor has no king, Gondor needs no king." By the time they reach Lothlórien, Boromir speaks much more warmly to Aragorn, confessing that Gondor is falling apart due to the failing rule of Boromir's father, and he wants Aragorn to come with him to the White City (Minas Tirith) to help restore the glory of Gondor. Aragorn remains hesitant and uncertain, and during the camp by the river Boromir accuses him of rejecting his heritage, a bitter pill for Boromir, who loves his people above all things. It is this love that the Ring preys on: "I seek only the strength to defend my people!" Then, as Boromir lays dying, he confesses his weakness - and acknowledges Aragorn as the rightful King of Gondor - a monumental moment from the man who rejected him so blatantly when they first met.
Peter Jackson ruined Boromirs character. Made him hostile and unstrustworthy right from the start
I totaly agree with u. Boromir is the most human caracter, he only want's to save his people and that showes how much we humans are desparate to save what we love. He is indeed redeem himself in the end and show us what a true warrior should act, and look like .
@@RicoFM16 as well as Faramir... :(
Yes, many of the characters and their motivations are altered for the purpose of movie story telling.
You may not always agree with it and every reader of the books has their own mental version of the story. What I like about these films is how they have succeeded in bringing this epic tale to millions who otherwise would never know it because most people will never read the books.
Some of the scenes that bother me are Gandalf's fall from the bridge. It is subtle but the exact sequence of events are altered slightly and I think, not for the better.
Denethor's possession of a Palantir is greatly missing from the story and his death scene is ridiculous.
The introduction of Pippin and Merry's characters is weak and lazy writing. I understand they needed to really condense the opening chapters but no motivation is given for them joining the quest. The scenes with Butterbur were totally redone for no apparent reason. There are others that bother me but I tolerate it all and generally really enjoy these movies, especially watching them with people who do not know the books.
@@Lethgar_Smith I adore the movies and I agree with you that it brings it to people who won't read the books. I'm dyslexic and struggle a lot reading, and I don't have the attention span for audio books. So movies are often my most comfortable way to consume literature.
Boromir is one of the best characters ever in fantasy. He is not weak, the ring is just too powerful. Something you only realize after multiple watchings is: he never had a chance. He seems weak because he is surrounded by magical beings, chosen ones and all the other fantasy tropes, but he is no one. He is just a man. He is all of us. Thats why he seems weak by comparison. He is out of his league here, he is just a soldier. And the fact that the only thing he wanted from the ring and that lead to his fall was "the strength to defend my people" makes it such a wonderful human being. The more you see this films or read the books, the most you realize he is the most "real" character. We all want to be like Aragorn, we all think we are like Boromir, but in the end we are just like Gollum. Long live Boromir.
(Edit) P.S: very good reaction, you got a suscriber!
Plus, with his backstory, he is so torn between conflicting loyalties. Once you see his whole story arc, he becomes such an amazing character. His death scene brings me to tears every single time.
"we all want to be like Aragorn, we all think we are like Boromir, but in the end we are just like Gollum."
truer words have never been said. God bless you.
True. Even Aragorn is descended from the line of Numenor. He's basically a half-elf half-human type. Boromir is the only flesh and blood human in the group.
Boromir is hands-down my favorite character in all of LotR. There's quite a few badass things he does in the books that don't make it into the movies.
I think my favorite is during the flight to the bridge of Khazad-Dum, when the Balrog is gaining on them. They need more time to get across the narrow bridge so Boromir sounds the horn of Gondor, giving all of the orcs *and even the Balrog* pause.
Wonderfully put.
Don’t feel bad about making connections to more modern works of fiction! It only goes to show how many worlds and works Lord of the Rings has inspired to create.
Beowulf, Conan, King Arthur and
many other classics, are all actually
much older than Lord of the Rings
and it was Tolkien who took inspiration
from them!
Especially Arhurian Legends, Norse Myths,
The Ring of the Nibelung and works of George MacDonald
@@hater2764 yes, you are correct, except Tolkien denied that he was inspired by Der Ring Des Nibelungen, and the Arthurian Legends and Tolkien’s disappointment in them as the cultural milestone of England (being that they were more inspired by French culture), was a large reason for writing Lord of the Rings as an alternative, purely Anglo-Saxon mythology. That being said, Lord of the Rings, is, unquestionably ground zero in terms of inspiration for every modern High Fantasy story. Warhammer, Wheel of Time, Dungeons and Dragons, none of these things would exist without Tolkien’s contribution to culture.
@@nickmanzo8459 funny thing, I have a friend who thought D&D inspired LOTR... Never have I been so disapointed.
@@hater2764 And those took inspiration from verbal stories even older which were never committed to paper. Nothing is 100% original, but I'd say Tolkien comes pretty close in terms of the detail and specificity of the world he imagined.
I heard George R R Martin say in an interview once that his favourite character in LOTR is Boromir, because he is the most relatable and human character in a story full of morally pure characters.
He said he was keen to cast Sean Bean as Eddard because the reverse is true of that character- he is the only morally upstanding character in a story full of morally gray ones.
And they both die.
Ah Yes, Eddard, let me sign my nephew's birthright away and send him to the Wall to swear his life away in a glorified Penal Colony while I Usurp his throne and marry my daughter to the man who killed his father and dishonored his mother, my sister, Stark. Truly a morally upstanding character.
it´s only because Sean Been dies in all his roles (ofcrs not)
Fun fact: Hobbiton to Mount Doom is approximately the distance from Oxford to Athens.
Don't worry about Bill The Pony, he does very well for himself in the books.
I’m impressed that you picked up on Legolas walking ON TOP of the snow! It took me several watches to notice ❄️
This is a natural ability of Elves.
"Legolas watched them for awhile with a smile upon his lips, and then he turned to the others. 'The strongest must seek a way, say you? But I say: let a ploughman plough, but choose an otter for swimming, and for running light over grass and leaf, or over snow--an Elf.'
With that he sprang forth nimbly, and then Frodo noticed as if for the first time, though he had long known it, that the Elf had no boots, but wore only light shoes, as he always did, and his feet made little imprint in the snow.
'Farewell!' he said to Gandalf. 'I go to find the Sun!' Then swift as a runner over firm sand he shot away, and quickly overtaking the toiling men, with a wave of his hand he passed them, and sped into the distance, and vanished round the rocky turn."
4:52 Yes, Aragorn (Strider) grew up in Rivendell. When he was 2-years-old, his father Arathorn was killed by an orc arrow to the eye. Aragorn’s mother, Gilraen, took him to Rivendell so she could raise and protect the last heir of the throne with Elrond’s help. Elrond acted as a father figure and mentor to Aragorn. Aragorn’s true name was hidden and he was called Estel in Rivendell. Estel means hope in elvish.
5:17 The mithril coat was made long ago by the dwarves for a young elvish princeling. It was gifted to Bilbo by Thorin, the King of Dwarves, on Bilbo’s adventures when he was younger. So, a young elvish princeling would be about the same size of a hobbit.
12:41 Long story made short. Back in the day, the dwarves of Moria were good friends with the elves of Eregion, an elven realm neighboring Moria. An elven craftsman and his best friend, a dwarven craftsman, built the door together. The door was used by the elves and dwarves to facilitate trade and as a symbol of friendship between the elves and dwarves. Also, the dwarves in the olden days used Elvish language as their lingua franca. They were secretive of their own native tongue (Khuzdul) and refused to speak it to others not of their own race. So they used Sindarin (the main language of the elves). By the beginning of the Third Age, the dwarves have abandoned Sindarin for the tongue of Men. Sauron attacked Eregion and utterly destroyed it. The dwarves closed the door and sealed it shut to prevent Sauron’s forces from entering Moria. Then, the Balrog was awakened from the depths of Moria and the dwarves abandoned their realm. Thus, the secret of opening the doors of Durin was forgotten.
28:10 Legolas wasn’t from that area. He was from Mirkwood in the northeast of Middle-earth where his father, Thranduil, reigned as a King. Legolas was the Prince of Mirkwood.
"You bring great evil with you"
"What, Pippin?" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Damn I'm excited for you to see film 3
I love Galadriel. The aura she exudes…wisdom and power but restraint with her abilities.
Some info for you - She is actually Arwen’s grandmother through her Mothers side, so she is Elronds mother in law.
The dwarf skeletons in moria were from a large group who went to reclaim the dwarven kingdom, it had been going well and messages were being sent to tell people of their progress, that's why gimli was shocked that they had all died.
Few members of Bilbo's adventure party.
do you know for how many years they were dead.? When did Balins people die?
@@blackwolf4653 25 years I think, Balin died in TA 2994 and the fellowship entered Moria in TA 3019
@@robertkillen4797 thanks for the reply. Thats a long time for Erebor and Gimli not hearing anything about Balin and Moria. I know Balin ruled for about 5 years wich is really impressive to be honest. I guess 25 years ain‘t so long for dwarfes because they can live like 300 years or more i belive.
it's always so funny to me when someone watches a four hour movie and ends it with "that's it?!" we felt the same way back in 2001, but we had to wait a whole year.
I like this dude. Hes enthusiastic and involved in what he watches and a clear fantasy fan.
Keep doing what youre doing. I will be watching the remaining videos for sure.
I’m so glad you are reviewing my favorite movies! I love watching your reviews. I have a kitten named Pippin, and it’s great because when he breaks my things I can say, “Fool of a Took!”
You probably caught this while editing, but Galadriel is in the opening sequence as one of the three Elves to receive a ring of power. She's also the narrator of the opening sequence.
Galadriels Hair has actually much more significance:
One of the greatest craftmen and a great warrior of the elves, Fëanor, creator of the Silmarils, which are the name sake of the Silmarillion, one of the greatest lore books for the LotR, asked her three times for a strand of her hair. She refused each time, so he crafted the Silmarils with her hair as inspiration. Now, she gives a dwarf, one of the longest enemy of the elves, three locks of her hair, as a mix of a peace symbol and a sign of her respect of him
Yes, and to piggyback on that, giving a lock of hair as a token of friendship or love upon separation might have been a familiar tradition to Tolkien, popular throughout history and specifically to Victorians.
I love that story
And this is all _before_ you get into the bit of the story where Galadriel eventually grew to hate Fëanor so much that she led a bunch of elves across a frozen wasteland for a hundred years with the sole purpose of KILLING him... Correct me if I mixed something up though
@@BAMGM I'm not versed enough in the Lore to know something about that
I love that this explanation is given under each fellowship reaction ☺
I think Boromir's greatest weakness is also his greatest strength: his extreme self-sacrificing loyalty. He would do anything for his people, absolutely anything. Look what he does for Merry and Pippin. He has selfless motives, but he's desperate to protect his people and that's easy to take advantage of. His people are the closest to Mordor so they would be the first in danger if Sauron prevailed.
Elves' bodies can be killed, but their spirits return to Valinor (wa-a-a-y off in the West, where ordinary ships cannot go). This is why Aragorn's words about Luthien (after singing The Lay of Luthien one night on the journey to Rivendell), "She died," is so poignant. She was the first elf to truly die.
What I love more about the story of Beren and Luthien is that when Beren first died, Luthien, being the daughter of a Maia, (was it Melian her name was?) an angelic being such as Gandalf, Luthien’s spirit was able to leave her body and manifest herself in the Halls of Mandos. There she begged Mandos to return Beren’s soul to middle earth. If I remember correctly she was given the opportunity to go back as a mortal with Beren and live their life together, and so they did.
This was all after Beren and Luthien had stolen a Silmarill from Morgoth’s dark crown. Morgoth is the original dark lord responsible for Mairon’s turn to darkness, going under the names such as Annatar the bearer of gifts, Gorthaur the cruel, The Necromanser and the most famous name Sauron the deciever.
Mairon means The Admirable
Sauron means The Abhorred
Hope I got my facts straight, I know you guys will correct me if I made a mistake😅
@@erixn. Yes, she was daughter of Melian, but that was not important in her death and her way into the Halls of Mandos. She died of grief, after Beren's death and her spirit leave Middle Earth to Mandos, like other Eldars. There she appealed and her appeal was accepted by Mandos.
I think this is from Silmarillion:
"The song of Lúthien before Mandos was the song most fair that ever in words was woven, and the song most sorrowful that ever the world shall ever hear. Unchanged, imperishable, it is sung still in Valinor beyond the hearing of the world, and the listening the Valar grieved. For Lúthien wove two themes of words, of the sorrow of the Eldar and the grief of Men, of the Two Kindreds that were made by Ilúvatar to dwell in Arda, the Kingdom of Earth amid the innumerable stars. And as she knelt before him her tears fell upon his feet like rain upon stones; and Mandos was moved to pity, who never before was so moved, nor has been since.
Therefore he summoned Beren, and even as Lúthien had spoken in the hour of his death they met again beyond the Western Sea. But Mandos had no power to withhold the spirits of Men that were dead within the confines of the world, after their time of waiting; nor could he change the fates of the Children of Ilúvatar. He went therefore to Manwë, Lord of the Valar, who governed the world under the hand of Ilúvatar; and Manwë sought counsel in his inmost thought, where the will of Ilúvatar was revealed.
These were the choices that he gave to Lúthien. Because of her labours and her sorrow, she should be released from Mandos, and go to Valimar, there to dwell until the world's end among the Valar, forgetting all griefs that her life had known. Thither Beren could not come. For it was not permitted to the Valar to withhold Death from him, which is the gift of Ilúvatar to Men. But the other choice was this: that she might return to Middle-earth, and take with her Beren, there to dwell again, but without certitude of life or joy. Then she would become mortal, and subject to a second death, even as he; and ere long she would leave the world for ever, and her beauty become only a memory in song.
This doom she chose, forsaking the Blessed Realm, and putting aside all claim to kinship with those that dwell there; that thus whatever grief might lie in wait, the fates of Beren and Lúthien might be joined, and their paths lead together beyond the confines of the world. So it was that alone of the Eldalië she has died indeed, and left the world long ago. Yet in her choice the Two Kindreds have been joined; and she is the forerunner of many in whom the Eldar see yet, thought all the world is changed, the likeness of Lúthien the beloved, whom they have lost."
@@erixn. Nice description of Beren and Luthien, however, I think you've confused Morgoth with Sauron. Morgoth, a Vala, not a Maia, originally known as Melkor, was the first to turn against Valinor and try to take over the world. Sauron, a follower of Morgoth, was merely his servant, and continued to try to take dominion over Middle Earth after the Valar defeated Morgoth.
To be quite honest, as a MASSIVE Lord of the Rings fan, I kinda adore it when reactors draw comparisons to the media they're familiar with. You're looking at the father of the genre, and seeing all of the features its children inherited, and it's really cool and a little cute. I don't even like Harry Potter, but I smile whenever someone compares The One Ring to a horcrux.
Don't let the old fuddy duddys make you stop enjoying these films in your own way, through your own lens.
Quick Fun Fact: Galadriel is one of the oldest characters in the series. She's literally older than the Sun and Moon.
She has always been my favorite character in the series.
Which is why she narrates at the beginning, I think.
@@magicbrownie1357 I think they had three different actors record the narration, and they felt that it worked best with Cate Blanchett's voice. I can't blame them; she does a great job!
I just wish they hadn't used that ridiculous line about no one remembering those events, only to have Elrond give an eye-witness testimony an hour into the movie!
@@korganrocks3995 No, it was a conscious choice by Peter Jackson.
@@magicbrownie1357 Yes, but a rather late choice iirc. It's been a long time since I watched all the behind the scenes stuff and commentary tracks, but I think they originally intended Frodo to narrate it, then changed it to Gandalf, before finally deciding to go with Galadriel. It makes more sense for it to be her since unlike Frodo and Gandalf she was already in Middle Earth at the time, although the same applies to Elrond, who was actually at the battle.
I remember being like 7 years old, watching this after my dad read the Hobbit to me, and absolutely crying my eyes out when Gandalf died. To this day, it's one of the most affecting things that I've ever felt in a movie
Yes, the Bridge at Khazad Dum is one of the greatest scenes ever written.
"Sam's my favourite character".
Oh don't worry Veggie, I think he's many of us' favourite :)
Your response to Pippin's mistakes is understandable.
But in Pippin's defense, he is a child. all of the other Hobbit's are adults, but Pippin is still basically a teenager. Also he is a Took. The one family of Hobbit's known for getting into trouble because of their curiosity. He can not help it. Teenager + Took = big trouble.
The entire plot of the Hobbit would not have happened if Bilbo did not have Took blood in him.
As a big Pippin fan I love to play devil's advocate. They talk about it in the movies but he usually follows along with Merry (of course being the youngest hobbit) and the first hobbit we see throwing stones into the pool is Merry. The well scene is a classic 'just leave things alone' Pippin moment but I feel that he makes it up with the assist on the troll (troll's bane indeed)
In my opinion, The Lord of the Rings is the greatest movie trilogy ever made. It's just that simple. It's a masterpiece from start to finish
I don't think there will ever be a trilogie made with this amount of love and passion again.
There are three great Elf realms on Middle Earth. Rivendell, the Woodland realm, and Lothlorien. Each have their own rulers who are high-born Elf royalty. Elrond is ruler of Rivendell, Legolas's father of the Woodland realm, and Galadriel and her husband of Lothlorien. That makes Legolas a fellow Elf royalty, so that's why he was greeted so warmly in Lothlorien.
Don’t forget Cirdan the shipwright at the Grey Havens!
Balrogs are ancient beings on a simular level to Gandalf. The name "Morgoth" that is mentioned is LOTR's version of satan, the most evil entity in this universe. Balrogs are literally servants of satan, and went into battle with Morgoth thousands of years ago. That's part of the reason Legolas looks terrified. He's heard stories from family and friends who were around at that time.
I laughed out loud at that Bilbo Baggins jump scare. Peter Jackson got you good that time, didn't he? 😂
Mr. Jackson has a background in horror, and it really pops out now and again in these films. Did you notices earlier on with the Ringwraiths how each time you see them when they're pursuing the hobbit there's more of them each time? On the road, there's one. At Bucklebury Ferry, there are three. At Bree, there're four. At Weathertop, there are five. And when they're chasing Arwen on horseback to the ford, there are finally all nine of them.
Yes! In fellowship of the ring especially you can see the horror aspects and that’s one thing I definitely love about this more than the last two movies.
I must say, that is one scene Jackson got completely backwards. In the book, it is fairly clear that the change is not to Bilbo, but to Frodo's vision, the Ring at work on his mind.
I kind of wish they’d included Gandalfs alternate journey on trying to catch up with the hobbits. ‘There are 5 wraiths behind you, where the other 4 are, I do not know’.
They’re playing a game of cat and mouse with Gandalf, including an epic Lightning battle atop Weathertop which Aragorn and the hobbits see the night before they reach the watchtower, and they notice the top of the hill is scorched Earth and Gandalf leaves a sign for them that he’s been there.
In the movie it is a jump scare and effective but it is deeper and much more solemn in the book. There it is written as though it was possibly the power of the ring which was already affecting Frodo and had made him think of Bilbo as a twisted, grasping creature wanting to grab his ring.
One does not simply expect Sean Bean to be alive at the end 😂 This is one of his best death scenes.
Fun fact: when Aragorn parries the big Uruk-hai's knife with his sword, that was real. The actor playing the Uruk made a mistake and instead of throwing the knife in a different direction hurled it straight towards Viggo Mortensen who in a totally badass move parried it with his sword. Viggo completely adopted that sword during the entire production, carried it with himself everywhere even to restaurants during lunch breaks. It became a part of him.
He's an awesome and totally down to earth guy. Met him back around 05 .
Vigo wearing half his Aragorn costume waving a sword around a Restaurant car park 😂
I absolutely loved your reaction. I'm from Iran and these books and movies are a very big part of me, I suppose... Even though my mother tongue is Persian. One of the reasons I learned English was to read the books in their original language... And boy, did it pay off! You'll love the movies and I hope we'll see you reacting to the books as well. New subscriber. Much love ❤️
Yeah, Boromir is one of the most fascinating and human characters for sure. Love his story arc - best in the series imo along with a certain king of Rohan.
Pippin is my favorite character, but you can go ahead and give him a hard time! He's definitely the weak link to start with but he grows a LOT over the course of the trilogy.
Well, he is only a teenager.
@@katrinaleebaldwin4660 Very much so. Also, he's a Took. And Tooks are almost the Hobbit version of aristocracy. (Not that the laid-back country folk have that kind of "power" structure.) He's not in the least arrogant or anything (being a Hobbit), but up to this point his life has been quite privileged and easy and carefeee. But once he's had some experiences on this quest he grows so much as a character.
I've watched a lot of LOTR reactions, and you are the first to comment on the fact that the inscription over the West Door of Moria is in Elvish. Peter Jackson & Co. skip right over the point in the interest of keeping the plot moving (and boy, does it ever move from this point on!), but in the book Tolkien goes into some detail: In the Second Age (before the fall of Sauron seen in the prologue of FOTR), there was considerable commerce between the Dwarves of Moria and the Elves of Eregion to the west; this door was the boundary between their kingdoms. So much of the traffic through the West Gate would be Elvish. Celebrimbor of Eregion was the Elf who forged the Rings of Power, aided (in the case of the Nine and the Seven) by Annatar, who turned out to be Sauron in disguise. The war that followed ruined both Eregion and Moria.
Every time I see the scene where Boromir dies it makes me tear up and I've seen it a hundred times...still makes me tear up.
"I pass the test. I will diminish & go into the West & remain Galadriel."
She was there when the Rings were forged. She wears one of the Three uncorrupted by Sauron. She knows the call to power of the One better than any. And she passes the test. Extraordinary.
Well, not technically "there". Things happened a bit differently from what we see in the movie - Galadriel was sent one of the rings for safekeeping. The other two were sent to Cirdan, who gave it to Gandalf, and Gil-Galad, who gave it to Elrond.
Yeah bit of license there. No she wasn't inside Orodruin with Anatar as he forged them. But she was present in Middle Earth & aware of what was happening.
Gracious man...if you are tearing up at this film, you might have to take time out with the review for the second, and you may not even be able to complete the third!
I too love Boromir as a character. His motivation is, in some way, the simplest of them all. Gondor forever. Simple as that. He is a robust, caring patriot who wants to defend his country, his city and his people. Think of the little scene in the elf city Lothlorien, and in the final great death scene. Such a movitation is fine, in and of itself. The point of the story is that even the noblest of motives can be twisted and perverted by the power and temptation of the ring. In fact the greatest of passions can produce the greatest negative effect.
Worry not, you do find out a bit more about Boromir in the succeeding movies. Congratulations on your start along this journey. It truly is the greatest film trilogy of all time. You will NOT be disappointed :)
I am really liking your reactions to these. Haha, your constant worries about Bill the pony, and the BARE FEET! I like your appreciation for Boromir. I'm really looking forward to more, I am 100% sure that you'll enjoy them. They can't come out fast enough, especially since you haven't seen them at all yet. Am subscribed and ready for more!
I once watched a Harry Potter reaction by a guy with a fear of owls. So Veggie's thing with Hobbit feet is nothing.
You're very entertaining, don't change too much. Love your insights and your personable way you react. You're one of a kind. Looking forward to this and the rest of the LotR trilogy. Peace!
Random tidbit regarding Sam at the end: Frodo's parents died accidentally via drowning. So that bit at the end was actually traumatic for Frodo because he was having some serious flashbacks.
I remember watching this in theaters and at the part when the ceiling falls and breaks the stairs, trapping Aragorn and Frodo away from the rest of the fellowship, my 7 year old sister stood up and screamed "JUMP FRODO!" and and the whole theater started cheering. Lmao we still don't let her live that down
Hahaha, that is amazing!! XD
Thank you for mentioning the cave troll! Nobody ever mentions it when reacting but I'm the same way. It's like an animal and I can't help but feel bad in that moment when it's dying. Maybe not everyone recognizes it or thinks about that during the scene, I guess some of us are more sympathetic with things like that? Idk lol But I'm happy to finally see a reaction mention it!
I just noticed this: The first shot where Boromir is teaching Merry and Pippin rudimentary sword fighting is about the only place in the three movies where we get even a glimpse of the face of either of the two short size-doubles used for the Hobbits in shots with Big People. Usually, those shots are from over the shoulder of the Hobbit.
This scene cracks me up cause it looks like an adult playing with some kids but those hobbits aren’t much younger than boromir, some are even older
@@dearls921 Same with midgets....
I'm sorry! Little people!
It should't crack you up....
Things I wasn’t expecting in a LOTR reaction: a Mortal Kombat reference
About Boromir: just be patient, a few things will be revealed in the second movie about him still.
*spoiler alert*
The rest of the movies isn't really all that good. :-/
And the way they treated Faramir in the movies completely ruined them for me...
Elves showing up in Helm Deep isn't exactly great either, but can be forgiven...
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Please, don't spoil things in these reaction videos! He haven't seen them yet. Usually LoTR-reaction watchers are so good at not spoiling things.
@@magicofshootingstar Okay, that second part technically was a spoiler...
Sam calling Frodo, "Mr. Frodo", hearkens back to Tolkien's service in World War 1. You had your officers and you had the ones who looked after them. Sam is Frodo's gardener, and in the book, he is younger than Frodo by some years, and sees Frodo as very much his better. So, in respect, he refers to Frodo as Mr. Frodo, and Master as well. Frodo does not really see Sam as in anyway being inferior to him, and he is certainly not.
I’m reading the books for the first time and couldn’t help but notice there are some ‘dog’ like mannerisms that Sam is portrayed having. Man’s best friend type of thing ya know?
@@TheR15C Many people have said it and it is true. We all need a Sam in our life. We need someone who has our back, even when we don't have the energy to do the same. Sam is a hero because he has placed himself not in the spotlight, but is constantly pushing Frodo forward, giving him hope when he loses his own. Sean Astin embodied this character during production, assuming the role of Elijah Wood's protector, calling a locksmith when Elijah left his keys in the hotel. A true friend, through and through. Keep reading. It just keeps getting better.
@TheR15C
Well he will grow out of them and that is kinda what makes the ending of the book even more sweeter. When you get there, think why it ends qt the point it ends. 🙂 That's all I'm gonna say to not spoil anything for you or for Veggie.
The giant statues are called the Argonath. In the film's they're Isildur & his father Elendil who together defeated Sauron; in the books it's Isildur & his brother Anarion. The sword Isildur's statue holds is Narsil that was broken by Sauron right before it cut the One from his hand.
Boromir's death is truly a special moment. At the same time it redeems his character it also serves as a foundation for Aragorn's own story arc.
Boromir feels to me like one of the most (perhaps even the most) relatable, human characters in the movie. He's not a bad person by any means, but the pressure of fulfilling his father's expectations and protecting his city weigh heavily on him, and that combined with the temptation of the ring ultimately makes him fall.
I can remember one time as a kid I was told something like "everyone falls down sometimes, the important part is that you get up and try again." And that's exactly what Boromir does. After he falls to his absolute lowest, he gets back on his feet and does whatever he can to make up for it, risking (and ultimately giving) his life to protect Merry and Pippin.
Yeah! Was that a jump scare or was that a jump scare?
I make a hobby of watching LOTR reactions, and I always focus on the reactor when we get to this shot.
The bit with Bilbo looking like Gollum is fairly shocking & unexpected, I think Tolkien's description may give you some context:
"Bilbo put out his hand. But Frodo quickly drew back the Ring. To his distress and amazement he found that he was no longer looking at Bilbo; a shadow seemed to have fallen between them, and through it he found himself eyeing a little wrinkled creature with a hungry face and bony groping hands. He felt a desire to strike him.
The music and singing round them seemed to falter, and a silence fell. Bilbo looked quickly at Frodo's face and passed his hand across his eyes. 'I understand now,' he said. 'Put it away! I am sorry: sorry you have come in for this burden: sorry about everything.' [...] Frodo hid the Ring away, and the shadow passed leaving hardly a shred of memory. The light and music of Rivendell was about him again."
regarding your question about gandalf rarely if ever using magic:
as comments in the previous video stated, gandalf part of a group of angel like beings who have to abide by certain rules, thus gandalf is allowed to guide men, but he is not allowed to solve the actual issues for them unless specific conditions are met.
there are for example those of gandalfs kind who have fallen to evil and only when such individuals are directly involved is gandalf allowed to use his power to level the playing field in the conflict between the free people of middle earth and the forces of mordor, the balrog is one such individual, hence why gandalf was allowed to use his magic to oppose him and only him.
Hour long reactions. Now this is the good stuff!
If you're watching the extended edition, you'll learn something more about Boromir that's quite interesting! I wish they had left the scene in the original cut.
”How are they getting out of this? Swish and flick?” Best comment ever 😂😂
When you realize that Frodo was leaving alone on the boat with Sam's pack of cooking gear...
The REAL reason Sam wanted to go with him revealed??
Massive lord of the rings fan here. It's always great to watch reactions of people who never seen the movies. Makes me cry so much When boromir died..
When he turns with the different lighting showing the three arrows while going too his knees every time ! 🥺
Thank you, for sharing my admiration of Boromir.
I once read some article about LotR and one of the people speaking there said the best description of Boromir I've read so far.
"He was a man."
Such simple sentence describes all...
Humans are so easily seduced by power but they are brave and with a strong heart.
Tolkien was adamant on the plural of dwarf be dwarves not dwarfs, quite like the plural of elf is elves. He even got annoyed at the editors trying to change it, so he went and made corrections to the dictionary even. (Just noticed you say dwarfs)
When JRR Tolkien changes the dictionary he doesn't fool around. He literally wrote much of the Oxford English Dictionary.
@@scalefree Indeed, when anyone would dare try to correct him I can imagine him saying "Good sir, I WROTE the dictionary."
“He could’ve popped it on and just legged it” 😂😂😂 💀- I spit my drink 😂
Gandalf’s death:
Pippin blames himself for making all the noise. Gimli blames himself for the actions of his kin waking the Balrog, and for suggesting they take the route through the mines. Frodo blames himself for choosing the route through the mines when Gandalf asks the ring-bearer to decide. Aragorn and Legolas (Boromir to a lesser degree) know, at least to a degree, who and what Gandalf is, and what his loss means to the world. Sam and Merry have lost the one dependable figure on this quest that they have known their entire lives.
I definitely believe how much you're tearing up! I've seen these 1000 times and I tear up through all 3 every time!!!
"How are they going to get through this? Switch and flick??" LOL 🤣🤣🤣
At present with the threat of Sauron in the forefront & most Elves already gone from Middle Earth for the Undying Land, Elves are all allied. That's not always been the case, whole wars between factions of Elves took place, called the Kinslayings; there were 3 & they happened back in the First Age under the Two Trees, very long ago then.
Galendriel is Elrond's mother-in-law and Arwen's grandmother.
Gimli asking for the hairs is special. He asked humbly with genuine heart. Long ago, an old flame pestered her for hairs egotisticly and with vanity. She told him no.
When you meet Boromir's father, you will understand his actions better.
It was her uncle who asked, not an flame.
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But asked with disrespect.
Enya's music in this movie is the end credits "May It Be" but also Arwen and Aragorn's love theme "Aniron" that is heard in Rivendell.
I'm really loving rewatching these through your eyes. And being British, you lend a whole different flavour.
I generally forgive reactors for using GOT and Harry Potter references because they have likely experienced those worlds already, but I do remind them that LOTR, both the books and the movies, preceded them and often inspired them.
I do encourage you (partly out of selfishness) to continue with the other two movies soon. It will be worth it for all of us, yourself included.
And the first time I saw a picture of Dumbledore, I mistook him for Gandalf. I wonder if that was an intentional similarity by the HP people or not.
I think they actually wanted McKellen for Dumbledore, but he turned it down because he didn't want to play another such similar character
Dumbledoor seems primarily inspired by Merlin (particularly the Once and Future King version). Gandalf meanwhile seem inspired by Merlin, Väinämöinen and Odin.
25:48 - "You bring great evil with you." "What, Pippin?"
LOL
"You bring great evil here with you.."
-Pippin?
:'D I'm dead!
Totally loving your movie reaction videos as always!!! Don't worry about making references to other films because I think that makes your commentary even more unique and entertaining!!! Can't wait to see your reactions for the other two films and other films after those. 😍 Have you seen the Star Wars films or series???
I'm dying laughing to the scene with Pippin and the well. Best reaction to that I've seen! The Balrog designs is really fantastic. Gandalf and the Balrog are actually the same type of being called a Maia. The Balrog is what you get when they get turned evil. No worries about the Gandalf and Dumbledore issue. I've seen people who've watched LOTRs first do the same when they move on to Harry Potter.
So much fun watching you as always, I got the biggest smile each time ya called Gandalf Dumbledore. I know some folks may not see it as a cute thing, but so sure do. Can’t wait for more form ya as always and bless ya for being so invested and sharing who you are with us 🥰
In the books, Gandalf’s human-like body was intended to be shorter than an average human being. I think in a visual context, he strikes a more impressive figure being as tall as he is in this film.
Brother you definitely apologize way too much 😂 your reactions are absolutely wonderful . I haven't watched arcane so I skip those reactions but everything else on your channel is worth looking forward to !
Good catch on Legolas being able to walk on snow. One of the passive perks to being an Elf.
Galadriel’s gift to Frodo was a vial with the ‘Light of Earendil’. Earendil was an ancient hero who was set in the sky by the Gods to shine as the brightest star (comparable to our Venus). But the kicker is, before that apotheosis, Earendil was literally Elrond’s father, as well as Aragorn’s direct ancestor through many generations (Elrond being Aragorn’s great Uncle x 30 or 40 generations).
Here's a little about the author, J.R.R. Tolkien. He was not a writer by profession and only wrote a handful of stories during his life. He was a combat veteran of WWI, a devout Catholic, a Rawlinson and Bosworth Professor of Anglo-Saxon and a Fellow of Pembroke College, both at the University of Oxford. He was also a Merton Professor of English Language and Literature and Fellow of Merton College. Tolkien was also a close friend of C. S. Lewis, the author of the "The Chronicles of Narnia" series. His novels "The Hobbit" and "The Lord of the Rings" series are somewhat of an autobiography, when you study his life you will find many parallels with his stories. His works are the basis of almost all modern fantasy, from Dungeons & Dragons to Game of Thrones. Without Tolkien, we would not have the high fantasy we all know and love.
"Balls on toast" now that's hilarious
Super short primer on the Ages of Arda (formal name for the whole Middle Earth world):
First Age: mostly takes place in Valinor, the Undying Land of the Valar. Lit by Two Lamps then Two Trees, both destroyed by the original Dark Lord Morgoth, a fallen Valar. First Age ends with the ultimate defeat of Morgoth.
Second Age: mostly happens on Numenor, an island kingdom for Men as a gift of the Valar for help against Morgoth. Sauron takes center stage, makes & distributes Rings of Power. Hijinks ensue, Numenor destroyed like Atlantis.
Third Age: first & 2nd wars against Sauron.
Fun fact: Numenor's first King was Elrond's brother Elros who embraced his mortal side & founded a dynasty that continued through to Aragorn.
Spoiler free explanation for Veggie Gamer: It helps to think about scenes like the counsel meeting and Boromir when he attacks Frodo through the lens that the ring is influencing people just in proximity alone.
the Balrog reminded me of the Red Bull from the Last Unicorn. Christopher Lee also lent is voice to that movie. I know LotR came first. but that's always what I thought of
Great animation. Very influential novel. Nice.
Gandalf is a Maiar. Technically the Balrog is one too as well as Sauron. they are Spiritual beings who can take on physical forms to interact more closely with the world. Movie version had Gandalf say "he cannot yet take on physical form" about Sauron since his power is now tied to the ring and he needs it.
Thank you! You're the first reactor I've seen watch LotR that commented on how Pippen probably felt after the mines.
Thank you dearly. This was so wonderful. You are one of my favorite reactors to this series. Absolutely fantastic! 🌸
Marvelous reaction!! Don't worry about the comparisons to HP, I do that myself, as there are many similar themes throughout both. So looking forward to your continuation of the series and the next installment of the HP books review.
Aww, it's normal to cry! I've seen these movies a thousand times, and I cry so much every time. In fact, I think I cry even more than the first times lol
40:39
It's a more powerful gesture then you might think.
There's symbolism there harking back to ancient times, and it essentially means peace and friendship between elves and dwarves.
And her blessing.
I love that Daniel Radcliffe and Elijah Wood were constantly being confused with each other... There's so many stories about signing each other's picture.. LoL
Haha, I bet! I did a reaction to the Harry Potter 20th anni last month, and near the start I say "I think the only other thing I have seen Radcliffe in is Sin City"... I realised my mistake while editing it together XD
I honestly lost it at 25:25 ''and the awareness of a shmuck''.
Context on the giant statues of the human kings: all of this movie takes place in _what used to be_ the kingdom of Arnor, which fell into wilderness. Aragorn is the rightful king of Arnor and Gondor both (seeing as Gondor is Arnor's brother-kingdom and is currently lacking a king) but because Arnor isn't a thing anymore Aragorn is little more than a chieftain over a loose band of rangers. (Who unfortunately do not appear in the films)
In regards to "is it Boromir or the Ring?", it's pretty much both. The Ring takes your fears, ambitions and dreams and twists them around in your head for it's own purposes. In Boromir's case, it was taking his fear for the safety of his kingdom and basically saying "If you want your people to truly be safe, just use me. I can make you invincible to all the threats in the world. You needn't fear Sauron or anyone else ever again." And it does that stuff with EVERYONE who's around it.
2:50 "I do accidentally get a couple of names wrong."
It wouldn't be a Veggie reaction without screwing up some names now, would it? Just having fun. Love your reactions, and how enthusiastic you are. There are some reactors who I feel put on a farce, but you genuinely seem to be enjoying yourself which is great to see.
New sub and I’m loving your reaction man! Appreciate the respect your showing the community. Your going to be absolutely blown away with how this all goes down..incredible films!
By the way I think your watching the extended editions but if not …then I highly advised it for the next 2 movies. Cheers !
For anyone who didn't know: when Boromir's body goes over the Falls, we see Aragorn strapping on a pair of bracers emblazoned with the White Tree of Gondor. These belonged to Boromir, and if you watch closely you can see that Aragorn wears them throughout the rest of the series. Such a beautiful little detail, and so easily missed.
Loving the reactions as always Veggie! They really make my day.
"You bring great evil here."
"What, Pipin?"
Made me burst. There is actually a (joke) fan theory that he's working for Sauron.
This made my day! Loving these reactions, I always look forward to them! Thank you! ❤️
EDIT : and yes, Sam is the best!
Eeeek yes I've been looking forward to this. Just went and did a hefty task and now this is my treat LOL. In my view you don't have to apologise for any of this stuff especially referencing other things. Sure LOTR came first but you've not watched it first so it's completely reasonably you reference things you know! And not understanding everything immediately is a given. But it's very sweet of you to acknowledge and generally enjoy getting all the comments. I think it means a lot to people that you try so hard and hopefully that encourages people to at least not be so critical or rude. But yes fortunately as you say most people are at least polite in correcting you hahah
Gimli asking for a gift from Galadriel was one of the most amazing things I've read.
'There is nothing, Lady Galadriel', said Gimli, bowing low and stammering. 'Nothing, unless it might be - unless it is permitted to ask, nay, to name a single strand of your hair, which surpasses the gold of the earth as the stars surpass the gems of the mine. I do not ask for such a gift. But you commanded me to name my desire'.
-The Fellowship of the Ring, "Farewell to Lórien"
Unlike Feanor, Gimli didn't want to ask for a strand of her hair, he knew that it was too much to ask for. But since Galadriel herself asked him to state his "desire" he named it anyway, refusing to answer or lying would be disrespectful to Galadriel who even Gimli would not want to disrespect. After he named his "desire" he once again reinforced that he wouldn't ask for such a gift, but named it because he was asked to. Where Feanor asked with arrogance and pride, Gimli named (not asked) with honesty and reverence. Since Galadriel was the one who asked Gimli to name his desire she couldn't really refuse his request, she however could have given 1 strand, yet gave 3 instead.
‘And what gift would a Dwarf ask of the Elves?’ said Galadriel, turning to Gimli.
‘None, Lady,’ answered Gimli. ‘It is enough for me to have seen the Lady of the Galadhrim, and to have heard her gentle words.’
‘Hear all ye Elves!’ she cried to those about her. ‘Let none say again that Dwarves are grasping and ungracious. Yet surely, Gimli son of Glóin, you desire something that I could give? Name it, I bid you. You shall not be the only guest without a gift.’
‘There is nothing, Lady Galadriel,’ said Gimli, bowing low and stammering. ‘Nothing, unless it might be - unless it is permitted to ask, nay, to name a single strand of your hair, which surpasses the gold of the earth as the stars surpass the gems of the mine. I do not ask for such a gift. But you commanded me to name my desire.’
The Elves stirred and murmured with astonishment, and Celeborn gazed at the Dwarf in wonder, but the lady smiled. ‘It is said that the skill of the Dwarves is in their hands rather than in their tongues,’ she said; ‘yet that is not true of Gimli. For none have ever made to me a request so bold and yet so courteous. And how shall I refuse, since I commanded him to speak? But tell me, what would you do with such a gift?’
‘Treasure it, Lady’ he answered, ‘in memory of your words to me at our first meeting. And if ever I return to the smithies of my home, it shall be set in imperishable crystals to be heirlooms of my house, and a pledge of good will between the Mountain and the Wood until the end of days.’
Then the Lady unbraided one of her long tresses, and cut off three golden hairs, and laid them in Gimli’s hand. ‘These words shall go with the gift,’ she said. ‘I do not foretell, for foretelling is now vain: on the one hand lies darkness, and on the other only hope. But if hope should not fail, then I say to you, Gimli son of Glóin, that your hands shall flow with gold, and yet over you gold shall have no dominion.’
It’s been a while since I read it. I’ve forgotten how beautifully written it was. Time to read it again.
Thanks!
I checked the books, and they say nothing about Feanor asking Galadriel for a hair three times. I must therefore assume that you made it up.
Great reaction man. Thanks for doing this. I'm very much looking forward to you reacting to the next 2 movies, which you have never seen. You're going to be amazed.