It still wouldn’t hurt him to take a bag or two of the plain trash out every time he walked out the door, instead of just feeling “free”. I missed the part where they mentioned the council not picking up trash from their street.
@@Grk149 I get you however it is a lot easier to say than do... people get stuck in ruts and difficult places. Doing even the easiest things can seem impossible and pointless
Watched this and came to the comments because I was so impressed with Jack, upon learning of his suicide felt a deep sadness. I hope his family take care of each other, and ask for help if they need it.
I felt the same as you watching this whole episode only to come to the comments to find out about Jack. I couldn't believe it, he seemed so hopeful and happy for the future. You can tell from watching that he was a very intelligent young man. So sorry to his family and friends. RIP
honestly that son, Jack was more mature about it all than the mum. I understand she was unwell, but she really didn't listen to her son, she wasn't there for him at all, he needed her. I am sorry he's gone.
It didn't look like a typical hoard, in the sense of collecting lots of stuff. This was a woman who neglected herself and her son, by never cleaning and just throwing her trash on the floor. And when the son tried to cleanup some of the mess, she would discourage him. I feel sad for the son, he should have moved out of the house if he had the chance.
I just came here after watching this episode to comment on how wonderful Jack is; and I am heartbroken to hear that he took his own life. What an absolute gem he was. As I was watching this show I laughed out loud so many times at his comments and his incredible humour. The moment he speaks of his Dad was so sad and genuine. 😢Sending his mom lots of love as she must be so broken.
Yes I am wondering, what happened to her after that. Imagine to loose your husband in such a young age and then your so also! This is a nightmare. I wonder why he has done it.
My partner lived in a hoarder flat with his parents and i lived in a minimalist house with my parents. I had to clean his room with him when we were teens . Now , we live together. The first year was difficult because he didn't want to throw away useless things but with time and efforts, he changed ! We live in a minimalist house now.
There was something so endearing about Jack and I came to the comments to talk not about the hoard but about him, his character and this unique essence that enveloped him. During the video, I found myself wondering about him today, what was he doing? Had he married? Did he still enjoy taking photos. Discovering that he died, has brought me to profound grief - like I’ve lost someone I cared for and not someone I met on a TH-cam video. I found it lovely that so very many other viewers saw what I too saw. Such a lovely young man. I hope his death didn’t cause his mum to slide back into the mental illness that gripped her so tightly.
Oh my goodness I was shocked to hear that he passed away oh wow that really hurts....I am totally speechless...I can only imagine what he must have went through his whole life.sleep well my friend 🙏❤️
I'm so saddened to hear that Jack took his life. He must have felt like nothing would ever get better. His mother was so deep in her depression she couldn't see how she was suffocating him with all her stuff and her sadness. It's really a tragic ending to his life. I feel like after the show left, his mother just started to clutter it all up again. He probably felt like it was a never ending cycle.
@@nomsantsoane3984 He needed his mum too, they both need each other but what her mother did is always look on the past, not their present and the future of her children. 🙄
@@nomsantsoane3984 2 decades of coping, at least she had Jack and a daughter but what happened? She didn't look for the brighter side.. She is in deep denial, now She's not mourning for her husband but for her son as well, what would her daughter feel? She'll deal what her brother's dealing with as well.
I am not a hoarder, I can open my doors to anyone, but I have learned SO much by watching these videos and listening to Stelios. I'm in the process of rewatching them and taking notes. Because, although I am not a hoarder, I do overeat, and I find that a lot of the advice applies. Love these videos. I cannot afford therapy, so this is great help. Thank you.
My heart is broken knowing Jack took his own life. He must have been so sad and depressed while filming this. He had the most wonderful sense of humor. Although in my opinion he used it as a defense mechanism to try and deflect from the deep pain he was in. Hope his soul is finally at peace. praying 🙏
I grew up in a house like this, and somewhat it’s not always about not throwing things away, it’s about a lot of little things accumulating over time and then being too overwhelmed and discouraged to clean it all. I think we need to all be compassionate towards people that grow up in these situations and live this way. ❤️
I totally agree. I know someone who lives like this, although I haven't seen the extent of it. Every offer of help is rejected so we just continue to support them.
@@UKImmigrationLawGeek I didn't think I knew anyone like this as from the outside everything appears "normal". Always dresses immaculately too. Guess you never can tell what goes on behind closed doors.
So sad to find out that Jack committed suicide. He was such a wonderful soul, so funny and mature for his age. I hope his mom is coping okay with the loss. I'm worried that she might have slid back into hoarding after experiencing the loss of another loved one.
I just wanted to add this to say thank you to everyone who has made lovely comments about Jack. It’s taken me about 2 days to read most of them as it was very emotional to read them all. After his passing, I organised a balloon release for him and our friends to pay their respects. Over 150 balloons was released that day (Obviously didn’t think about the environment that day, so I apologise) A few months later, a few of our friends of Jack’s fundraised to get a memorial plaque for Jack to be put in the college, the principal gave the ok and the plaque is still up in the canteen today (that was where we all saw him and so many memories are there) The supported housing never took any responsibility for the lack of care for Jack. I have his last note and it’s heartbreaking to read. With Jack’s help, even after he passed, the first LGBTQ+ Pride of the town happened that year as he was determined to make that happen. Thank you everyone again for your lovely comments. He said in his last note “Once I’m gone, everyone will forget me” but he was far from wrong!
lovley message tiffy..his mum should take supported housing to court for negligence if she has the strength?big love to you,ballons sounds amazing,sure he would have appreciated that,and like you say he wont be easily forgotton,he left a legacy with the fundraiser and this show and in your college..sorry for the loss of your lovley friend ,jack had a big heart ,we can all see that x
Thank you, Tiffy, for sharing that. No, he won't be forgotten. You as his friends will remember him and now we got to know a small part of him, too. Best wishes and hugs from Cologne! Take care.
This is one of the first shows about Hoarding that really went into detail of why people hoard and that it's not just being too lazy to clean, but a genuine disorder linked to past trauma. I'm very sad to heard what has happened to Jack, such a genuine human being. He deserved better. Rest in peace
Literally every show about hoarding that I've seen talks about trauma. This is the first hoarding show I've seen though that gives them 6 weeks, instead of an unrealistic 6 days or even 3 days...
Finally,I thought it was a happy ending..finding out he is no more felt sorry him..such a wonderful soul,world has missed a good human like u,rest in peace jack.
Oh, what a lad Jack is. I'm so sorry and do feel genuine sadness after reading the comments. Such a funny, honest young man, he seems so sweet. My heart breaks for the rest of the family and friends
While looking into this episode on Google I have seen that Jack is sadly no longer with us, he took his own life in 2014. Rest in Peace Jack, you deserved so much more in life, what a beautiful soul.
I'm so sorry Jack couldn't find his way out of the darkness. Watching him scream at his mom to listen to him was so heart-breaking after knowing what's become of him. :(
@@Tipperary757 It really is. It was right after this episode was filmed. I really despise his mother for her selfishness and lack of giving a d@mn about anything or anyone except her piles of junk and refusing to change even for her son. I feel bad that he was in that level of pain :( I hope his spirit is at peace, it breaks my heart because he was still a kid :/
Jack's father seemed to have been an outstanding, thoughtful, intelligent, compassionate man... The diary he left for his son was epic and gave me a smile and goose bumps on my arms upon seeing Jack discovering his father's writings. 🙏🤗👈
Stelios Kiosses is such a kind, lovely person. His empathy and non-judgementalism is a healing presence, exactly the wise support that hoarders need as they most often face criticism and lack of understanding which only compound their mental obstacles. It's refreshing to see his compassionate stance.
I will honestly say when I first saw him with his tan, designer clothes, and that expensive car, I wasn't very convinced he would be a good therapist. But seeing how he works and the plans he initiates was incredible! I agree- he really does care.
People need to recognise mental health issues are often the cause of dysfunctional behaviour. People don’t realise that judgement, criticism and shaming only exacerbates the situation whereas appropriate psychological treatment and support is way more effective.
Maria. Q I absolutely agree with you. Through out the video, I had the feeling that his mom was neglecting him, she seemed careless of Jack all the time. He wanted his happy mom. I felt so bad when I learned he had passed, so sad. Someone said in a comment that he was an angel, and I believe he was! RIP sweet Jack.
What a compassionate and effective therapist! It's so refreshing to see and hear such a kind and empathetic person who really invests himself in helping.
I am very sorry to hear about Jack, I watched this a year ago, and had no idea he committed suicide, I just finished watching it today, just now, and again I had the same thoughts as a year ago about Jack, what a lovely young man, how sensitive, how caring and how self-aware he was. I am stunned to hear he commited suicide, May he rest in peace, x
This is the second episode that I have watched and I totally like the way you guys do your Hoarders versus the U.S.A. Hoarders show. I like how the work is being done before the haulers come AND you have 4 days. That is more realistic then the hoarders USA 1 or 2 days...its so crazy. Every time I binge watch any of these programs I start cleaning!! I know I cannot be the only one...🥴
YES! I think that the US version aims for the most conflict. Also, it seems that hoarders are given much more of the task to do, and 6 weeks instead of one, and I LOVE the Dr! Such a huge percentage of these people return to their old habits - at least the American show. I wonder, does anyone know the relapse rate for this British version?
@@Linusrox123 I would say the potential for relapse is the same everywhere that hoarding is an issue...That is why the counseling before, during and after is so important. BUT IF they actually treat every hoarders the same for real then I would imagine they have less of a chance to relapse over there because THEY did most of the work to clean up their mess and identify AND change their behaviors that brought them to that place to begin with.
Rest in Peace Jack, I am so sorry your mother only cared about herself and didn't think about how her addiction affected you :( I hope you are at peace.
I teared up when Jack read aloud his father's diary he wrote for Jack. I lost my Dad in 2014. I gets knot in my throat everytime I find an old greeting card or note from him. Its as if for a fleeting moment he comes alive again.
@@ranstra12 jack had unfortunately already died when I commented so how dare you ppl like me drove him to suicide. Jack seemed a lovely lad who was failed by the system . How dare you !
It's true. I am the same. I was born into a family of two parents who are terrible hoarders. I cannot put into words the intense frustration of wanting to help those you love so badly, but never getting anywhere. The more you try to help, the more you become the enemy. You are ridden with guilt, frustration, isolation and self-loathing.
Stumbled across this as a recommendation. My curiosity of whether the comments would be kind, and now very sad learning Jack committed suicide. He seemed to be such a sweet and lovely person. It’s heartbreaking how judgmental the human race is.
Stelios is really such an underrated guy. Friendly, helpful, helping people through a form of mental illness many don't recognize to this date. I wish him the very best in life.
Im so sorry Jack that you had to live in such an environment for so long 💖 this isnt hoarding, this is abuse & not thinking about the health of your child 😔
Jack was such a nice guy, I can't believe that we are still living in times where people are bullied to death because of their sexuality! That makes me so angry and sad! I'm so sorry for all the ones who knew and liked him, his friends and family. My thoughts are with you.
It made me sad when Jack said he felt disrespectful to his father for standing on the photos under rubbish because I realized he said photographs are more real to him than reality. Maybe I was sensing something more. I'm very saddened to hear that Jack passed away in 2014.😭
Jack was so ready to get things done, I understand the mother is in pain, and I don't want to sound or be unkind, but you cannot put your own feelings before your child's, he should have seen and had that diary along time ago. He should have been able to get to know his father through time etc, he didn't even know his dad called him chip as a baby. I hope the mother kept up with things, if not for her but for Jack, as I think that's what he would have wanted for his mother. Rest easy Jack, my heart goes out to his family and friends!
Finding out he committed suicide just a couple years later I think and feel like him finding his dad's diary was the thing that exacerbated his depression. It gave him an insight to things he'd never known and kicked up overwhelming emotions he'd never felt before or knew how to deal with on his own.
The psychologist is right. Don’t judge people for their condition. It is a problem, yes, and hoarders need mental health help, but they don’t need to be bullied and judged. But that’s true of every problem there is - saying nasty, judgmental things never solved any problem.
This video brought me tears. Sadly to learn after all emotion struggles the family had been through and Jack didn’t have a happy ending to his life. This story will remain in my mind for a longest time I know. ❤️
Especially the young kids cus they don't have their own space & can't have friends over for tea or for a sleepover. Kids need their own space too & it must be awful growing up in a home that gets more & more filthy as well as full of clutter. I'd see having a bath as pointless cus you'll get all nice & clean to get out & be walking on filth & rubbish.
I was one of them :/ my husband and I just got a 4 bedroom house in anticipation of the 3 kids we would love to have some day, and I've planned a storage room to ensure that the holiday decorations (I build big anamatronic plywood christmas displays, I have to have a room) don't even make it into their closets. Their space will always be theirs, and I believe they should be entitled to space to work through their issues and enjoy their childhood
I really feel for Jack. I grew up with hoarder parents too, so I know how frustrating it can be to try and start to sort things and they just shut you down. I’m so sorry that he had so many demons in his life that pushed him towards him taking his own life. I hope he’s living happy, clean and free up there.
Im still going through the video looking at comments.. My brother is minimalist (just furniture for use and no decoration) and I am just like my mum and grandparents and great grandparents And have ummm 'pathways' around the house. Im watching this series to give me motivation.. but goodness gracious, if I ever lobbed in for a cup of tea at Helen's it wouldn't phase me to move around all this stuff and find the kettle.
@@jenniferschmitzer299 I struggled with this too, passed on from my parents. I know it's been nearly a year, but I hope you're doing well on your journey. Keep at it. Stay motivated. If you falter, fail, struggle, tomorrow is another day to do better. Keep working on you, you deserve it.
I decided to try look up where people were now and discovered that Jack had committed suicide ... my heart is broken for his family. His mum. She found his body after he'd been dead a few days. Im part way through watching this and don't think I can watch the end. How utterly tragic.
@@TheOriginalFoxtrotCharlie so sad we saw an improvement in their home in this episode yet he passed so soon afterwards... I hope families like this can get the mental health support they truly need, RIP Jack
@@susananderson1071 Jack had 2 much older sisters if you put this in "Vulnerable Asperger's sufferer, 20, killed himself and lay dead in his flat for up to five days" the article should appear as YT and Only Human don't want a link to the truth.
I became a minimalist a couple of years ago when I got married and it was one of the best decisions I ever made. It's less stressful and lots of people are inspired to get rid of extra stuff that they don't need when they come to visit our home. 😊
@Tony. O'Brien Minimalism is different from person to person, but for me, my home isn't "bare". It just has the basic necessities one would need for each room and very minimal decor. I don't have "extra", useless stuff just sitting around, I don't like a lot of decor, I've reduced our wardrobes to what we actually need, and I'm always looking for more stuff to get rid of..
How wonderful. Thank goodness for people like Dr Stelios, who has the brains and imagination to help people with this condition. Having seen other, less successful, hoarding programmes I think the key to turning these lives around is plenty of psychotherapy. Shout out too to the cleaning team!
Maybe that's why I wept for him. I wonder how his mom is. It's never the natural order to lose your children before you go. I can't imagine the profound grief she must have. I wish I could reach out to some of these hoarders. I have OCD and have been through a lot of trauma as well. I feel like I could help but I don't know if I really could. Ugh my heart's broken. He was a very special person and I'm sorry he had to suffer.
I’m impressed and proud of all the people in this video. Even the psychotherapist. I thought he was very good and really helped these people. I think this was the most moving video/episode of hoarding I’ve ever seen. Well done!
Helen was so very depressed. She just couldn't care about anything. I could see how depleted her energy was. Also living life numbed out. She obviously was doing the most she could; working part-time, bathing, and keeping fed. Kudos to her for being willing to seek and accept help. I can understand why she would want to stuff the sadness, but I'm glad she faced it, Jack being able to learn more about his father was a special gift. Plus, home cooked meals! I'm glad Helen will have those positive memories. Condolences on the loss of Jack.
From the follow up that I read, Jack died in a home where they were suppose to look out for him due to earlier suicide attempts. He was bullied for being autistic and then for his sexuality. Oh man, we have to start treating each other better. Rest easy Jack!
I can sympathize with Jack. I grew up in a hoarders house as well. I unfortunately learned some of the habits, and I'm just now realizing that I need to live with less stuff. I'm 34 with 3 kids, and the last few years, our belongings have taken over. I had an epiphany six months ago though, and I've gotten rid of so much. Its kind of addictive once you get in the habit
I think we are all hoarders to a degree. There is always a lot of stuff in every house that is being kept “just in case”. I think letting go of stuff is not just physically freeing, but mentally freeing. It gives us more opportunity to focus on the things that really matter.
Such an encouraging story. Thank you Stelios. And a thank you to those wonderful ladies who helped in the journey. You all enriched their lives so much with your "elbow grease" and compassion.
I'm so glad they had an episode with a kid because that's how I got into having a thrift store shopping addiction... I learned it from my mum at a time when I was 13 and didn't have any friends, and I would go shopping for ridiculously cheap items and imagine the life that I should have been living with people who would be wildly impressed by not only who I was as a person but what I chose to buy as well. When I go shopping it's as if I get to pick out my whole life, just as I'd be able to do if there were any places for youths to socialise in my town. I'm making a video series about this if anyone wants to watch. I make other content too.
How sad to hear about Jack, and the saddest part is that there still isn't support when it's needed, of the kind that's needed, to the people who could so obviously do with it. So sorry for both him and his poor mum. You too, Tiffy. What a loss. X
Rest In Peace Jack, I thought he was a lovely lad in this and I’m sorry to read he was so deeply unhappy toward the end of his life💔 I hope his mother is doing well, bless her.
Thank you for this. ♥️ He was my best friend and it breaks my heart every single day since he left us. I’m just so glad that I can watch this finally on TH-cam! It was on another website for years but I always hoped I could find it on TH-cam!
Omg I just googled Jack Ellis. My heart absolutely aches. Only 20 yrs old. R.I.P Jack. He is with his dad now. Jack looked like Quentin Tarantino. Just a charismatic and lovely young man
Me too. I came to the comments to say how great Jack is. Only to find sadness and to hear about the pain that Jack was going thru. Heartbreaking to hear about others hurt and anguish.
I am crying my eyes out for jack. god bless him in heaven and I hope is is with his dad. I can not believe the loss of such a beautiful young man. My Heart Breaks.
Oh my goodness, i was watching this on youtube on my TV and wanted to see the comments. Switched to my phone, read the comments and i am heartbroken. Jack was such a genuine, happy go lucky kid. This is the first episode of this show to make me cry. I hope he’s at peace. 💓
Hope the mother knows what beautiful, caring son she can call her own, he was a fantastic person. I am sorry to hear that he had left our earth. But thank God he could stay a little while! Bless him.
It's ocd pure and simple. A terrible affliction. People either can't stop cleaning or go the other way and can't clean at all. I think it's that people are holding on to guilt for so many circumstances in their lives and iffy and bad things they have done. I've seen that.
In this era we try to find an excuse for everything. Sometimes things are difficult. But when you have a child you must find the strength. To let your child grow up in mountains of rubbish...well you have no excuses.
@@MelB868 that's why it's a brain thing mel, it's extremely difficult to do for those people, a little bit off help is what they need to start the ball rolling.
Abuse is such a vague misleading word. His mother was suffering from depression. She managed to keep him alive and also turned him into a decent human being. Most psychologically broken parents are not capable of that much. They produce awful ppl . What is the use of a clean place when you are garbage on the inside. I have seen plenty of hoarders with happy kids who just move away from the hoard just as the lady with 4kids. Jack seems to have developed depression same as his mother and i suspect he was bullied as well after the show aired. I don't think its fair to say he was subjected to abuse. Sure his surroundings were not clean but he could have started cleaning as soon as he grew up which he never did. Anyway Jack seemed like a good boy and its such a sad loss to know that he is gone
@@Katarina23 his mom did the best she could while also experiencing her own trauma and the loss of the love of her life. Thank you for having compassion. I can't imagine what this poor woman is going thru now with the death of her only son😭💔
He did go through abuse, from the awful neighbors and the people at the group home he lived at. This is why bullies need to face more penalties. They need to understand what their actions do to people.
Why couldn’t Helen even be bothered to get up when Stellios came to see the house? She looked so sad and uncomfortable. Cleaning the house is great but the illness is still there.
@@CanadianQueenmagenta thats not what I saw. I saw shame, hopelessness and gratitude at the end. People are so judgmental from just a glimpse, and it’s because of this judgment that they don’t seek help and they hide themselves away.
So proud of Hellen and Jack! Keep up the great work!... your place looks wonderful..Just need some new carpet eventually.. One day that will happen..Them ladies who came to clean where amazing what big hearts they have...the place is so much cleaning I was in tears when I saw the healthy veggies in pans on the stove cooking in a clean kitchen..that made my day to see Jack and Hellen eating at the table together ....I think it will stay uncluttered now that it's so clean and freeing.. I do love the floral carpet ..the light ones need help..
Jack and Helen are inspirational. Through the years of pain and a sense of being lost Helen raised a stellar son. If we could put a little of Jack into the many misguided people his age the world would be a better place
reading the comments and learning that jack killed himself actually made me cry. i currently live in a hoarders house because of my mother and i know how awful it is and when i watched this i really thought that jack had gotten out and that everything was ok. wow. i feel so sad.
I watched the first five minutes before scrolling through the comments. To see a bright wonderful young man go before his time is downhearted. It took all I have to continue watching it. Jack, R.I.P. xx
Mental illness is a funny old thing. You'll never understand It until you walk a mile in their shoes, I suppose. As the previous comment says, Trauma and low mood is a massive part of a lot of peoples hoarding problems. And physical ability to physically clean it again matched with any mental illness would make it difficult. It becomes too overwhelming. My nan was a hoarder. She was also extremely depressed, never dealt with her sexual abuse as a child and was also 75 and was extremely immobile with severe arthritis. (EDIT: I'm not finished watching the documentary yet. In fact I had just started when I saw your comment haha. But her husband died, and. she was left to bring up Jack on her own. She even admitted it went downhill from his death so that clearly had a profound affect on her and contributed massively to the problem)
Your feeling of being overwhelmed watching Hoarders should give you insight into what the hoarders are feeling when they're asked to get rid of their stuff. You feel anxiety when faced with clutter, whereas they feel that same anxiety (probably more like panic) when they're faced with giving up their clutter and garbage. Wanting and keeping your home clean and orderly because you find it reduces your anxiety is not a disorder. If your compulsion to keep things minimal and clean and tidy was getting in the way of your life or making your home unsafe, or if you couldn't control that compulsion even if it harmed you or the people you love (like if you were constantly scrubbing already-clean things and your hands were always raw and inflamed), then it would be a disorder.
jack is so very genuine. he has hope and care for his mother. if you see this Jack you're doing your father proud
both jack and his mother are v brave
Jack committed suicide in 2014 unfortunately xx
@@louiseh2259 seriously? How do you know? Such a shame
It still wouldn’t hurt him to take a bag or two of the plain trash out every time he walked out the door, instead of just feeling “free”. I missed the part where they mentioned the council not picking up trash from their street.
@@Grk149 I get you however it is a lot easier to say than do... people get stuck in ruts and difficult places. Doing even the easiest things can seem impossible and pointless
Watched this and came to the comments because I was so impressed with Jack, upon learning of his suicide felt a deep sadness. I hope his family take care of each other, and ask for help if they need it.
I heard this. Is it true? Heart breaking.
@@nic8430B Heart breaking!!!!!
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I felt the same as you watching this whole episode only to come to the comments to find out about Jack. I couldn't believe it, he seemed so hopeful and happy for the future. You can tell from watching that he was a very intelligent young man. So sorry to his family and friends. RIP
Wow, his poor Mother😥
One of those rare cases when I wish i didn't read comments. So sorry for Jack.
Me neither. I just feel too sorry
@@moguramimi1541 Me too.
Jup. I started reading the comments at the end of the video. I wish I never did🥺
Me too just made me feel sad 😑😑😑
Me too!! :(((((((((((((((
honestly that son, Jack was more mature about it all than the mum. I understand she was unwell, but she really didn't listen to her son, she wasn't there for him at all, he needed her. I am sorry he's gone.
It didn't look like a typical hoard, in the sense of collecting lots of stuff. This was a woman who neglected herself and her son, by never cleaning and just throwing her trash on the floor. And when the son tried to cleanup some of the mess, she would discourage him. I feel sad for the son, he should have moved out of the house if he had the chance.
Yes i agree..
@@TheRocco96 the problem is when it’s your mother you can’t move psychologically away.
He's gone? I have to finish watching still. Reading comments and watching. What happened?
I just came here after watching this episode to comment on how wonderful Jack is; and I am heartbroken to hear that he took his own life. What an absolute gem he was. As I was watching this show I laughed out loud so many times at his comments and his incredible humour. The moment he speaks of his Dad was so sad and genuine. 😢Sending his mom lots of love as she must be so broken.
I can't imagine how broken she must be now to have lost her son as well. My heart goes out to the family.
Yes I am wondering, what happened to her after that. Imagine to loose your husband in such a young age and then your so also! This is a nightmare. I wonder why he has done it.
@@LaWendeltreppe me too
How did her son die
@@catlove111 he committed suicide
@@eloraduntufuga5739 nooooo 😭
My partner lived in a hoarder flat with his parents and i lived in a minimalist house with my parents. I had to clean his room with him when we were teens . Now , we live together. The first year was difficult because he didn't want to throw away useless things but with time and efforts, he changed ! We live in a minimalist house now.
There was something so endearing about Jack and I came to the comments to talk not about the hoard but about him, his character and this unique essence that enveloped him. During the video, I found myself wondering about him today, what was he doing? Had he married? Did he still enjoy taking photos. Discovering that he died, has brought me to profound grief - like I’ve lost someone I cared for and not someone I met on a TH-cam video. I found it lovely that so very many other viewers saw what I too saw. Such a lovely young man. I hope his death didn’t cause his mum to slide back into the mental illness that gripped her so tightly.
he died? my heart
Oh my goodness I was shocked to hear that he passed away oh wow that really hurts....I am totally speechless...I can only imagine what he must have went through his whole life.sleep well my friend 🙏❤️
@@glendarobinson2360Really...How? He was so young! 😢
I'm so saddened to hear that Jack took his life. He must have felt like nothing would ever get better. His mother was so deep in her depression she couldn't see how she was suffocating him with all her stuff and her sadness. It's really a tragic ending to his life. I feel like after the show left, his mother just started to clutter it all up again. He probably felt like it was a never ending cycle.
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Jack shouldn't have committed suicide 😢🥺 His mom needed him there
@@nomsantsoane3984 He needed his mum too, they both need each other but what her mother did is always look on the past, not their present and the future of her children. 🙄
@@iamgriego But you can't blame the mum you see she isn't coping
@@nomsantsoane3984 2 decades of coping, at least she had Jack and a daughter but what happened? She didn't look for the brighter side.. She is in deep denial, now She's not mourning for her husband but for her son as well, what would her daughter feel? She'll deal what her brother's dealing with as well.
I am not a hoarder, I can open my doors to anyone, but I have learned SO much by watching these videos and listening to Stelios. I'm in the process of rewatching them and taking notes. Because, although I am not a hoarder, I do overeat, and I find that a lot of the advice applies. Love these videos. I cannot afford therapy, so this is great help. Thank you.
Hope your doing well!
YOU CAN DO IT SWEETIE, LITTLE BY LITTLE LEARN TO LOVE YOURSELF 🤗🙄🙄🤗👍
We all have a little hoarder in us.
@@thefirstiagree1091 Thank you so much!
My heart is broken knowing Jack took his own life. He must have been so sad and depressed while filming this. He had the most wonderful sense of humor. Although in my opinion he used it as a defense mechanism to try and deflect from the deep pain he was in. Hope his soul is finally at peace. praying 🙏
Are you serious? This is a bad joke!
@@Pretty_Boy_Proud_Fil-Am it's not a joke
@@danniis9444 ok Karen thanks
@@Pretty_Boy_Proud_Fil-Am seriously, its not a joke
Pretty dumbass, try reading the comments and doing a search before you wrongfully call someone a "Karen."
I felt so sorry for Jack. A lovely boy who just wanted a normal life.
I feel like his mom failed him all his life, so sad.💔
Shame on that mother. She is responsible for her son's death.
I grew up in a house like this, and somewhat it’s not always about not throwing things away, it’s about a lot of little things accumulating over time and then being too overwhelmed and discouraged to clean it all. I think we need to all be compassionate towards people that grow up in these situations and live this way. ❤️
I totally agree. I know someone who lives like this, although I haven't seen the extent of it. Every offer of help is rejected so we just continue to support them.
I agree with you about the compassion. I also think that it is brave of people to appear in front of a camera and speak about their problems.
Agreed
@@RetroRegan I guess that is to be expected. Some people just do not want help. I do not think that I know anyone who lives like this.
@@UKImmigrationLawGeek I didn't think I knew anyone like this as from the outside everything appears "normal". Always dresses immaculately too. Guess you never can tell what goes on behind closed doors.
So sad to find out that Jack committed suicide. He was such a wonderful soul, so funny and mature for his age. I hope his mom is coping okay with the loss. I'm worried that she might have slid back into hoarding after experiencing the loss of another loved one.
It's truly heart-wrenching right
That is so sad .I'm so sorry to hear that 🙏
That's so sad. He was such a kind and genuine person
Omg no this breaks my heart !
Oh wow.... that's just. Extremely depressing.
Jack reading his father's diary is making me cry...what a wonderful man who left behind such a wonderful son.
I cried too. Then more when I came here and read that he died by suicide. I can't imagine that his mom is not dying a slow death from grief.
I just wanted to add this to say thank you to everyone who has made lovely comments about Jack. It’s taken me about 2 days to read most of them as it was very emotional to read them all.
After his passing, I organised a balloon release for him and our friends to pay their respects. Over 150 balloons was released that day (Obviously didn’t think about the environment that day, so I apologise)
A few months later, a few of our friends of Jack’s fundraised to get a memorial plaque for Jack to be put in the college, the principal gave the ok and the plaque is still up in the canteen today (that was where we all saw him and so many memories are there)
The supported housing never took any responsibility for the lack of care for Jack.
I have his last note and it’s heartbreaking to read.
With Jack’s help, even after he passed, the first LGBTQ+ Pride of the town happened that year as he was determined to make that happen.
Thank you everyone again for your lovely comments. He said in his last note “Once I’m gone, everyone will forget me” but he was far from wrong!
lovley message tiffy..his mum should take supported housing to court for negligence if she has the strength?big love to you,ballons sounds amazing,sure he would have appreciated that,and like you say he wont be easily forgotton,he left a legacy with the fundraiser and this show and in your college..sorry for the loss of your lovley friend ,jack had a big heart ,we can all see that x
Much love and hugs to you, Jack’s mom and friends
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Thank you, Tiffy, for sharing that. No, he won't be forgotten. You as his friends will remember him and now we got to know a small part of him, too. Best wishes and hugs from Cologne! Take care.
Yeah!! Let's kill some turtles!! . . . . .
Oh Jack im so sorry. This world is so cruel 😭💔. You deserved so much better. What a lovely, funny, bright young man. Rip. X
This is one of the first shows about Hoarding that really went into detail of why people hoard and that it's not just being too lazy to clean, but a genuine disorder linked to past trauma. I'm very sad to heard what has happened to Jack, such a genuine human being. He deserved better. Rest in peace
He sure did
Literally every show about hoarding that I've seen talks about trauma. This is the first hoarding show I've seen though that gives them 6 weeks, instead of an unrealistic 6 days or even 3 days...
Finally,I thought it was a happy ending..finding out he is no more felt sorry him..such a wonderful soul,world has missed a good human like u,rest in peace jack.
Oh, what a lad Jack is. I'm so sorry and do feel genuine sadness after reading the comments. Such a funny, honest young man, he seems so sweet. My heart breaks for the rest of the family and friends
While looking into this episode on Google I have seen that Jack is sadly no longer with us, he took his own life in 2014. Rest in Peace Jack, you deserved so much more in life, what a beautiful soul.
How terrible for his mom. I hope she has had further support.
It's true. Very sad
Bless him I had hoped he had got everything he wanted out of life.
Oh god that’s so sad. Bless him x
Maybe people made fun of Jack after this show aired?
Love Stelios. So empathetic and kind. That means everything.
he's Cypriot???
He really is the kindest person.❤ so compassionate and non judgemental.
Yes! Warm, compassionate, kind.
Love him! Very warm and creative in his treatments
Is he greek?
This story was sad but, after hearing of the suicide the story became absolutely tragic
I'm so sorry Jack couldn't find his way out of the darkness. Watching him scream at his mom to listen to him was so heart-breaking after knowing what's become of him. :(
What has become of him?
@@annea5781 he took his own life :(
@@MissSparks92 How very sad.
@@Tipperary757 It really is. It was right after this episode was filmed. I really despise his mother for her selfishness and lack of giving a d@mn about anything or anyone except her piles of junk and refusing to change even for her son. I feel bad that he was in that level of pain :( I hope his spirit is at peace, it breaks my heart because he was still a kid :/
Jack's father seemed to have been an outstanding, thoughtful, intelligent, compassionate man... The diary he left for his son was epic and gave me a smile and goose bumps on my arms upon seeing Jack discovering his father's writings. 🙏🤗👈
Stelios Kiosses is such a kind, lovely person. His empathy and non-judgementalism is a healing presence, exactly the wise support that hoarders need as they most often face criticism and lack of understanding which only compound their mental obstacles.
It's refreshing to see his compassionate stance.
And those eyes! The kindness shines from his face.
I will honestly say when I first saw him with his tan, designer clothes, and that expensive car, I wasn't very convinced he would be a good therapist. But seeing how he works and the plans he initiates was incredible! I agree- he really does care.
Oh he’s probably judging you can see it in his eyes when he views the hoarders home for the first time.
@@pjgreen1786 I wouldn’t say he’s judging the person, he’s analysing the situation
People need to recognise mental health issues are often the cause of dysfunctional behaviour. People don’t realise that judgement, criticism and shaming only exacerbates the situation whereas appropriate psychological treatment and support is way more effective.
R. I. P Jack 😞😞 So sad to find he'd passed after watching this. All he wanted was a clean home, his mom as she once was, and to have known his dad
I feel so sorry that the world couldn’t manage to take care of him...
Maria. Q I absolutely agree with you. Through out the video, I had the feeling that his mom was neglecting him, she seemed careless of Jack all the time. He wanted his happy mom. I felt so bad when I learned he had passed, so sad. Someone said in a comment that he was an angel, and I believe he was! RIP sweet Jack.
@@TheSyl1408 heartbreaking.
How, when?
@@venumames6921 if you Google his name and 5he show, it will come up. He committed suicide 😞
What a compassionate and effective therapist! It's so refreshing to see and hear such a kind and empathetic person who really invests himself in helping.
I am very sorry to hear about Jack, I watched this a year ago, and had no idea he committed suicide, I just finished watching it today, just now, and again I had the same thoughts as a year ago about Jack, what a lovely young man, how sensitive, how caring and how self-aware he was. I am stunned to hear he commited suicide, May he rest in peace, x
I have watched this at leat 6 times. Jack is such a special human being. Shout out and love to all who have experienced extreme loss.
When jack said he was going to clear his bedroom and his mom got angry and said no was pretty telling on why the home looked like that to begin with
Exactly
Shame on the mother.
How precious his dad was to leave him a diary
and the mother never even gave it to jack , thats sooooooooooooooo fked up
This is the second episode that I have watched and I totally like the way you guys do your Hoarders versus the U.S.A. Hoarders show. I like how the work is being done before the haulers come AND you have 4 days. That is more realistic then the hoarders USA 1 or 2 days...its so crazy. Every time I binge watch any of these programs I start cleaning!! I know I cannot be the only one...🥴
You are not alone sis
YES! I think that the US version aims for the most conflict. Also, it seems that hoarders are given much more of the task to do, and 6 weeks instead of one, and I LOVE the Dr! Such a huge percentage of these people return to their old habits - at least the American show. I wonder, does anyone know the relapse rate for this British version?
@@Linusrox123 I would say the potential for relapse is the same everywhere that hoarding is an issue...That is why the counseling before, during and after is so important. BUT IF they actually treat every hoarders the same for real then I would imagine they have less of a chance to relapse over there because THEY did most of the work to clean up their mess and identify AND change their behaviors that brought them to that place to begin with.
They (who ever is in charge/participant of the show) are more gentle and less pushy than the show in the US.
I always watch hoarders to motivate me to clean my house.
Rest in Peace Jack, I am so sorry your mother only cared about herself and didn't think about how her addiction affected you :( I hope you are at peace.
I teared up when Jack read aloud his father's diary he wrote for Jack. I lost my Dad in 2014. I gets knot in my throat everytime I find an old greeting card or note from him. Its as if for a fleeting moment he comes alive again.
Rest in peace, Jack. I hope he's in a better place, now. What a good kid
Jack is not a hoarder he's a child that grew up with a hoarder. He's trying so much and his mum just don't want to.
A carer does an hour a week. Call it what u want its lazy AF shes Dragging jack down
Jacks pissing in the wind
People like you drove Jack to suicide.
@@ranstra12 jack had unfortunately already died when I commented so how dare you ppl like me drove him to suicide. Jack seemed a lovely lad who was failed by the system . How dare you !
It's true. I am the same. I was born into a family of two parents who are terrible hoarders. I cannot put into words the intense frustration of wanting to help those you love so badly, but never getting anywhere. The more you try to help, the more you become the enemy. You are ridden with guilt, frustration, isolation and self-loathing.
Stumbled across this as a recommendation. My curiosity of whether the comments would be kind, and now very sad learning Jack committed suicide. He seemed to be such a sweet and lovely person. It’s heartbreaking how judgmental the human race is.
@BRIANNA ALBINO because of bullying.
Stelios is really such an underrated guy. Friendly, helpful, helping people through a form of mental illness many don't recognize to this date. I wish him the very best in life.
Im so sorry Jack that you had to live in such an environment for so long 💖 this isnt hoarding, this is abuse & not thinking about the health of your child 😔
Jack was such a nice guy, I can't believe that we are still living in times where people are bullied to death because of their sexuality! That makes me so angry and sad! I'm so sorry for all the ones who knew and liked him, his friends and family. My thoughts are with you.
It made me sad when Jack said he felt disrespectful to his father for standing on the photos under rubbish because I realized he said photographs are more real to him than reality. Maybe I was sensing something more. I'm very saddened to hear that Jack passed away in 2014.😭
Jack was so ready to get things done, I understand the mother is in pain, and I don't want to sound or be unkind, but you cannot put your own feelings before your child's, he should have seen and had that diary along time ago. He should have been able to get to know his father through time etc, he didn't even know his dad called him chip as a baby.
I hope the mother kept up with things, if not for her but for Jack, as I think that's what he would have wanted for his mother.
Rest easy Jack, my heart goes out to his family and friends!
He had to deal with so much loss and trauma in his short life poor lad.
Well said.
Finding out he committed suicide just a couple years later
I think and feel like him finding his dad's diary was the thing that exacerbated his depression. It gave him an insight to things he'd never known and kicked up overwhelming emotions he'd never felt before or knew how to deal with on his own.
The psychologist is right.
Don’t judge people for their condition.
It is a problem, yes, and hoarders need mental health help, but they don’t need to be bullied and judged.
But that’s true of every problem there is - saying nasty, judgmental things never solved any problem.
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This video brought me tears. Sadly to learn after all emotion struggles the family had been through and Jack didn’t have a happy ending to his life. This story will remain in my mind for a longest time I know. ❤️
Gotta love Jack's sarcasm thou.👌
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I feel bad for people that aren't hoarders but have to live with them, it must be infuriating.
Especially the young kids cus they don't have their own space & can't have friends over for tea or for a sleepover.
Kids need their own space too & it must be awful growing up in a home that gets more & more filthy as well as full of clutter.
I'd see having a bath as pointless cus you'll get all nice & clean to get out & be walking on filth & rubbish.
@@TippyTappyToes2620 You can't bathe anyway in most hoarders homes, the bath would be filled with clutter and cobwebs
@@colinjava8447 Oh yea I know but in some rare cases you can, although the bath leaves much to be desired 🤦♀️
I was one of them :/ my husband and I just got a 4 bedroom house in anticipation of the 3 kids we would love to have some day, and I've planned a storage room to ensure that the holiday decorations (I build big anamatronic plywood christmas displays, I have to have a room) don't even make it into their closets. Their space will always be theirs, and I believe they should be entitled to space to work through their issues and enjoy their childhood
This is why mental healthcare is so important.
Jack was always complementing him mom I feel like all he needed was love ❤️ so much love
I really hope that Jack is reunited with his dad.
RIP Jack
I really feel for Jack. I grew up with hoarder parents too, so I know how frustrating it can be to try and start to sort things and they just shut you down. I’m so sorry that he had so many demons in his life that pushed him towards him taking his own life. I hope he’s living happy, clean and free up there.
Im still going through the video looking at comments.. My brother is minimalist (just furniture for use and no decoration) and I am just like my mum and grandparents and great grandparents And have ummm 'pathways' around the house.
Im watching this series to give me motivation.. but goodness gracious, if I ever lobbed in for a cup of tea at Helen's it wouldn't phase me to move around all this stuff and find the kettle.
@@jenniferschmitzer299 faze* 😊
@@jenniferschmitzer299 I struggled with this too, passed on from my parents. I know it's been nearly a year, but I hope you're doing well on your journey. Keep at it. Stay motivated. If you falter, fail, struggle, tomorrow is another day to do better. Keep working on you, you deserve it.
@@judylloyd7901 what’s wrong with spelling it that way? Horses for courses love ❤️
@@Datura981 all my stuff is now in storage, I’m in a happier place now
I decided to try look up where people were now and discovered that Jack had committed suicide ... my heart is broken for his family. His mum. She found his body after he'd been dead a few days. Im part way through watching this and don't think I can watch the end. How utterly tragic.
Suicide is such a horrible thing, in the end it is a selfish act. His poor Mom likely has no one now.
Oh, dear... :( Does anyone know when this was filmed?
@@Daems0528 would have been about 2012
@@TheOriginalFoxtrotCharlie so sad we saw an improvement in their home in this episode yet he passed so soon afterwards... I hope families like this can get the mental health support they truly need, RIP Jack
@@susananderson1071 Jack had 2 much older sisters if you put this in "Vulnerable Asperger's sufferer, 20, killed himself and lay dead in his flat for up to five days" the article should appear as YT and Only Human don't want a link to the truth.
I became a minimalist a couple of years ago when I got married and it was one of the best decisions I ever made. It's less stressful and lots of people are inspired to get rid of extra stuff that they don't need when they come to visit our home. 😊
@Tony. O'Brien unless it serves a purpose you don't need it.
@Tony. O'Brien Minimalism is different from person to person, but for me, my home isn't "bare". It just has the basic necessities one would need for each room and very minimal decor. I don't have "extra", useless stuff just sitting around, I don't like a lot of decor, I've reduced our wardrobes to what we actually need, and I'm always looking for more stuff to get rid of..
@@aceykrew Correct
I am trying to become minimalist, just purely because it is so easy to keep clean - I'm obsessed with cleaning haha
@Tony. O'Brien means you don't have 20 of everything; 20 heels 20 jeans 20 towels etc etc
This is how my mom thinks the room looks like when I leave the empty pizza box on the table for few minutes.
I hope Jack's Mum is getting the support she needs.
How wonderful. Thank goodness for people like Dr Stelios, who has the brains and imagination to help people with this condition. Having seen other, less successful, hoarding programmes I think the key to turning these lives around is plenty of psychotherapy. Shout out too to the cleaning team!
Stellios is so warm and excepting. What a remarkable person.
OMG. Was just going to comment about how lovely Jack was. A great lad. How tragic, my heart sunk in shock. May he now be at peace with God
Same here I even deleted mine after 😞 it’s really sad that angels like this are taken away in an unfair way.
The way Helen hugged and smelled the therapist 🤗😞...sometimes just hugging someone is all we need 🤍
Such a wonderful lad who would have grown to be a caring supportive man. This is just too bloody sad. RIP Jack.. xx
Aw what a wonderful person Jack is!
Jack was such a funny lad. I feel heart broken to know that he committed suicide only 2 years later. Rest in peace lovely xx
Oh no really?!?! 💔
Oh no x
That is so upsetting. 😔
Oh my goodness that’s sad 😔
Maybe that's why I wept for him. I wonder how his mom is. It's never the natural order to lose your children before you go. I can't imagine the profound grief she must have. I wish I could reach out to some of these hoarders. I have OCD and have been through a lot of trauma as well. I feel like I could help but I don't know if I really could. Ugh my heart's broken. He was a very special person and I'm sorry he had to suffer.
I’m impressed and proud of all the people in this video. Even the psychotherapist. I thought he was very good and really helped these people. I think this was the most moving video/episode of hoarding I’ve ever seen. Well done!
Jack is such a good young man, his father would most definitely be proud of him
May Jack's Soul rest in peace...He was a GREAT son and a very kind human being too
Jack is hilarious!!! His comedic timing is perfect. This is by far my favorite episode. 😆😆
Jack sadly passed away in 2014. ❤️
Sadly a lot of people with such comedy timing are deeply depressed. It’s so sad
@@fantasea114 but what happened with jack can you please tell me
@@emankhan262 I posted a comment if you can see it. He was my best friend in college.
@@MissTizzy1993 I recently read your comment thanks for telling me .every soul must taste death😪
I'm watching this for Jack, he is such a beautiful soul.
Rest in peace Jack. I hope you're found the peace you always deserved. God Bless ❤
Helen was so very depressed. She just couldn't care about anything. I could see how depleted her energy was. Also living life numbed out. She obviously was doing the most she could; working part-time, bathing, and keeping fed. Kudos to her for being willing to seek and accept help. I can understand why she would want to stuff the sadness, but I'm glad she faced it, Jack being able to learn more about his father was a special gift. Plus, home cooked meals! I'm glad Helen will have those positive memories. Condolences on the loss of Jack.
From the follow up that I read, Jack died in a home where they were suppose to look out for him due to earlier suicide attempts. He was bullied for being autistic and then for his sexuality. Oh man, we have to start treating each other better. Rest easy Jack!
Was that the source of the neighborhood bullying they mentioned?
R.I.P. Jack 🙏
Its so tragic tragic tragic
@@gingerfelice5830 I think this was after. He was bullied outside as well as inside the "care" facility.
Beyond heartbreaking, that poor boy..
I can sympathize with Jack. I grew up in a hoarders house as well. I unfortunately learned some of the habits, and I'm just now realizing that I need to live with less stuff. I'm 34 with 3 kids, and the last few years, our belongings have taken over. I had an epiphany six months ago though, and I've gotten rid of so much. Its kind of addictive once you get in the habit
I feel you. Even to the point I don’t wanna shop as much anymore cause all I see in my mind is “junk” and “I don’t need this.” Haha
Well done! Do you ever watch The Minimal Mom? Great channel for decluttering
I think we are all hoarders to a degree. There is always a lot of stuff in every house that is being kept “just in case”. I think letting go of stuff is not just physically freeing, but mentally freeing. It gives us more opportunity to focus on the things that really matter.
Good for you
Congratulations!!!
Stelios is an angel and the last hope for so many poor people who have sadly lost control over their lives, Glod bless him and his clients
stelios?? he's cypriot??
@@Ma-lv5zd.. Well Greek yeah as the name sounds so.
Such an encouraging story. Thank you Stelios. And a thank you to those wonderful ladies who helped in the journey. You all enriched their lives so much with your "elbow grease" and compassion.
I'm so glad they had an episode with a kid because that's how I got into having a thrift store shopping addiction... I learned it from my mum at a time when I was 13 and didn't have any friends, and I would go shopping for ridiculously cheap items and imagine the life that I should have been living with people who would be wildly impressed by not only who I was as a person but what I chose to buy as well. When I go shopping it's as if I get to pick out my whole life, just as I'd be able to do if there were any places for youths to socialise in my town. I'm making a video series about this if anyone wants to watch. I make other content too.
How sad to hear about Jack, and the saddest part is that there still isn't support when it's needed, of the kind that's needed, to the people who could so obviously do with it.
So sorry for both him and his poor mum.
You too, Tiffy. What a loss. X
Rest In Peace Jack, I thought he was a lovely lad in this and I’m sorry to read he was so deeply unhappy toward the end of his life💔 I hope his mother is doing well, bless her.
Is he no more how he died????
@@NASA_1212 He committed suicide they are saying in the comments. Maybe a couple years after this.
@@poodlegirl55 ...it said in 2014.
@@matildabishops9196 yes, this show was in 2012.
Thank you for this. ♥️ He was my best friend and it breaks my heart every single day since he left us. I’m just so glad that I can watch this finally on TH-cam! It was on another website for years but I always hoped I could find it on TH-cam!
Omg I just googled Jack Ellis. My heart absolutely aches. Only 20 yrs old. R.I.P Jack. He is with his dad now. Jack looked like Quentin Tarantino. Just a charismatic and lovely young man
"9 year old daughter, Jasmine, STILL lives at home" like omg obviously 🤣🤣
I hope Helen is healthy and with family... losing your husband and son must be incredibly difficult to deal with day by day.
After watching this, Im thinking of decluttering my phone gallery too.
🤣🤣🤣
Exactly 😮
😂😂😂 Me too
Lmao!😂
Dont remind me😂😂😂
Jack summed up the state of their house in one sentence and I agree with him.
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I wish I didn't read comments :( its very sad to hear Jack's gone. He seemed to be a very kind and wonderful lad! :( Rest in Peace Jack
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Me too. I came to the comments to say how great Jack is. Only to find sadness and to hear about the pain that Jack was going thru. Heartbreaking to hear about others hurt and anguish.
I am crying my eyes out for jack. god bless him in heaven and I hope is is with his dad. I can not believe the loss of such a beautiful young man. My Heart Breaks.
Oh my goodness, i was watching this on youtube on my TV and wanted to see the comments. Switched to my phone, read the comments and i am heartbroken. Jack was such a genuine, happy go lucky kid. This is the first episode of this show to make me cry. I hope he’s at peace. 💓
Hope the mother knows what beautiful, caring son she can call her own, he was a fantastic person. I am sorry to hear that he had left our earth. But thank God he could
stay a little while! Bless him.
It's common, nothing to do with being lazy, it's a brain situation. I know a guy who helps everyone 24/7 but can't do it for himself.
They are usually very selfless people :(
It's ocd pure and simple.
A terrible affliction.
People either can't stop cleaning or go the other way and can't clean at all. I think it's that people are holding on to guilt for so many circumstances in their lives and iffy and bad things they have done. I've seen that.
In this era we try to find an excuse for everything. Sometimes things are difficult. But when you have a child you must find the strength. To let your child grow up in mountains of rubbish...well you have no excuses.
It’s called take care of your own house before helping anyone else
@@MelB868 that's why it's a brain thing mel, it's extremely difficult to do for those people, a little bit off help is what they need to start the ball rolling.
Seeing the mom actually happy and smiling is so wholesome🥺💔
Jack was just lovely. My 💔for his Mom. Such losses to bear.
That poor boy was living in abuse his entire life. Poor kid
Someone in the comments said jack is dead. He Committed suicide on 2014 😣
Abuse is such a vague misleading word. His mother was suffering from depression. She managed to keep him alive and also turned him into a decent human being. Most psychologically broken parents are not capable of that much. They produce awful ppl . What is the use of a clean place when you are garbage on the inside. I have seen plenty of hoarders with happy kids who just move away from the hoard just as the lady with 4kids. Jack seems to have developed depression same as his mother and i suspect he was bullied as well after the show aired. I don't think its fair to say he was subjected to abuse. Sure his surroundings were not clean but he could have started cleaning as soon as he grew up which he never did. Anyway Jack seemed like a good boy and its such a sad loss to know that he is gone
@@Katarina23 his mom did the best she could while also experiencing her own trauma and the loss of the love of her life. Thank you for having compassion. I can't imagine what this poor woman is going thru now with the death of her only son😭💔
Not really- it was sadly more a result of appropriate mental health care and untreated trauma.
He did go through abuse, from the awful neighbors and the people at the group home he lived at. This is why bullies need to face more penalties. They need to understand what their actions do to people.
Why couldn’t Helen even be bothered to get up when Stellios came to see the house? She looked so sad and uncomfortable. Cleaning the house is great but the illness is still there.
same thinking.
She is a very broken woman. And probably more so now.
Very disrespectful woman. She may be ill but she doesn't get a pass for disrespect and rudeness. I find her very off-putting.
@@CanadianQueenmagenta she lost her husband and now in 2014 she lost her son. I wouldn’t even get out of bed
@@CanadianQueenmagenta thats not what I saw. I saw shame, hopelessness and gratitude at the end. People are so judgmental from just a glimpse, and it’s because of this judgment that they don’t seek help and they hide themselves away.
I pray they are able to maintain their home. I love the fact that Jack’s dad left a diary, so precious. Their dinner looks nice 👍🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Yes one of the symptoms of depression. God, I was there. I've acknowledged it before it got worse for me. I'm healing now. 😑
So proud of Hellen and Jack! Keep up the great work!... your place looks wonderful..Just need some new carpet eventually.. One day that will happen..Them ladies who came to clean where amazing what big hearts they have...the place is so much cleaning I was in tears when I saw the healthy veggies in pans on the stove cooking in a clean kitchen..that made my day to see Jack and Hellen eating at the table together ....I think it will stay uncluttered now that it's so clean and freeing.. I do love the floral carpet ..the light ones need help..
What an awesome father to leave a diary for his son🥰 I can see how heart breaking it is for the mom to loose such a good man🕊️
This doctor is so kind and gentle
Jack and Helen are inspirational. Through the years of pain and a sense of being lost Helen raised a stellar son.
If we could put a little of Jack into the many misguided people his age the world would be a better place
He was truly a beautiful person inside and out. I was very lucky to have called him my best friend. If only he could see these comments today.. 😭♥️
I love Stelios. Such a kind man.
reading the comments and learning that jack killed himself actually made me cry. i currently live in a hoarders house because of my mother and i know how awful it is and when i watched this i really thought that jack had gotten out and that everything was ok. wow. i feel so sad.
I watched the first five minutes before scrolling through the comments. To see a bright wonderful young man go before his time is downhearted. It took all I have to continue watching it. Jack, R.I.P. xx
As an aspiring minimalist, I’m feeling very overwhelmed watching this 😰 WHYYYYYYYY
Sentimental and laziness
Mental illness is a funny old thing. You'll never understand It until you walk a mile in their shoes, I suppose. As the previous comment says, Trauma and low mood is a massive part of a lot of peoples hoarding problems. And physical ability to physically clean it again matched with any mental illness would make it difficult. It becomes too overwhelming. My nan was a hoarder. She was also extremely depressed, never dealt with her sexual abuse as a child and was also 75 and was extremely immobile with severe arthritis. (EDIT: I'm not finished watching the documentary yet. In fact I had just started when I saw your comment haha. But her husband died, and. she was left to bring up Jack on her own. She even admitted it went downhill from his death so that clearly had a profound affect on her and contributed massively to the problem)
Same
Me too, I’ve got a week off work and was looking for inspiration. I’ve watched the minimalist on Netflix
Your feeling of being overwhelmed watching Hoarders should give you insight into what the hoarders are feeling when they're asked to get rid of their stuff. You feel anxiety when faced with clutter, whereas they feel that same anxiety (probably more like panic) when they're faced with giving up their clutter and garbage. Wanting and keeping your home clean and orderly because you find it reduces your anxiety is not a disorder. If your compulsion to keep things minimal and clean and tidy was getting in the way of your life or making your home unsafe, or if you couldn't control that compulsion even if it harmed you or the people you love (like if you were constantly scrubbing already-clean things and your hands were always raw and inflamed), then it would be a disorder.