@@redwanabir2557 can you get some some sort third party matte coating/film after you bought the glossy screen or is there no way to tone down the reflections on macs other than ordering the nano-textures?
This is how you do a TH-cam channel. All info, no bs and no begging. Effective. Efficient. And look at that... going on 4M subscribers. Well deserved. Well done.
I still have my M1 Max macbook pro 16”, it’s still a beast and i don’t have any particular reason to upgrade. I run my architectural stuff amazing, still sounds amazing, still have a massive battery life. It’s awesome .
I'm still on a m1 air and not a complaint in the world. I'd argue that the first gen m series chips are still very competitive in today's market when compared to windows laptops especially at the price you can get them at now.
This is also to be expected, full set of memory controllers on binned dies are either faulty or shut down due to the rest being broken. If you opt in for a lesser chip, you can't get as much system memory either. 406 GB/s is also a step up from the M3 step down to 300 GB/s. M2 Max had 400 GB/s.
@@null_geodesic True, but this info is veeery rarely given in any M4 materials. Check the charts that Dave used - it is all the same stuff, as everywhere else - M4 Max = 546 GB/s. This year it is even more tricky, because the memory options are locked and switching the RAM options causes in many cases also a change of the CPU type.
Nice short review. Two things. 1 the nano texture is a pain to clean without the supplied cloth. 2 is the Max chip in the 14" body still being thermal throtlled and making the fans get annoyingly loud? I am hoping the binned max isnt but waiting for reviews.
It's so cloth doesn't snag the etching and gets between it, you'll have less fingerprints to wipe down though. From my research M3 never throttled, just had hot thermals under extended loads.
@@user-jr7bb6g9ev The M3 Max in the 14" chassis most defiantly throttled under load once cooling system was heat soaked. I tested eight 14 m3 max macbook pros at work.
@@dimitardrew Check his previous video of the Mac Mini
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I think it’s needed to say that brighter display is only available on M4 Pro and M4 Max. Regular M4 can’t still hit 1000 nits - at least without using 3rd party tools
@@_Fl4K I grew up on windows and not once did I upgrade my ram or ssd. Upgrading your computer is the way to go for most people who need RAM and if you need storage, consider an external drive. It’s more economical anyway
@ not talking about upgrading I’m talking about fixing, all the manufacturers for these chips stand behind them lasting for only about 3-4 years.. sure most last longer, but they often dont
@@_Fl4K oh, repairability is a whole different issue. I think it’s hit or miss depending on the brand. Apple, Razer, and many others are notorious for being difficult to repair. Luckily, I’ve found my Apple devices to be very reliable. Hopefully they continue to hold up in the future!
@thescentsofme idk what that is, im using vivobook pro 14 Oled 3K 90Hz 10bit for almost 2.5 yrs and never had a bit of a problem. Even though charts on screen all the time. Either apple using cheap displays or their dual OLED tech fckd up
@@ViralEnter10ment nah, pwm is just an issue due to the nature of OLEDs. Iirc, everyone technically sees it, but about 5-10% of the population is actually extra sensitive to it to the point that that they're unable to use OLEDs that have too low of a PWM DC dimming rate. You need that rate to be much higher than the 480 Hz Apple currently is using (the screen is still 120 Hz, but the rate at which the pixels themselves are refreshing is much higher to try to mitigate PWM flicker).
The way the nanotexture changes the overhead light from white to that pinkish-red is a bit worrisome though, since that suggests if it's doing that to reflections then it's also adding that coloured tint to the screen output as well.
Amazing and on point. Would have preferred more insight on the graphics side of stuff. Especially the "gaming" promises. But fair enough. A great review
It'd have been nice to see those workflows in which the M4 Max outperforms the M2 Ultra, because your graphs state otherwise. Other than that, nicely done as usual, Dave!
I currently have a MacBook Air Original M1 with 8gb ram. Would you recommend upgrading to the M4 pro. I do a lot of video and audio engineering and things like that. My thing is starting to slow down a lot.
I wish you had touched on how this screen effects color accuracy? Should I get it for video and photo editing? The obvious answer seems like no, but I want to make sure.
Can you talk more about comparisons between the new M4 and the M2 pro or even M1 max as since they're priced similarly, do you think it's worth it? I think that's more interesting than comparing the more powerful ones, 99% of people won't really need that extra performance bump despite being significative because older models are already plenty powerful, and if they do I suppose they probably don't bother spending more, not the same story for 1500$ devices
@realbosstakea I think you're talking about ram and storage, but still the cpu performance of m3/m4 is obviously better, question is how much better and is it worth it
I was a windows user all my life then got a M1 Max MBP This October & man it's amazing.. I gotta work really hard to even get the thing to heatup usually by having a 4k edit going in Premiere with FL Studio & After Effects on in the background.. 😢
@@ancientflames Which is your take on the whole thing. I assume? I know what can generally be considered as "light" and "heavy" workflows. The question alluded to his lack of explanation. I wanted a proper display of the test environment. Which table were those devices standing on? Was there any thermal throttling involved? Can truth be told about the measurements and are they inaccurate? And if they are, why's that the case? It's simply the lack of information about the examination and the test itself that's prevalent to a point where I can't reproduce those results on my own. Letter being one of the most important things if it's about empiric testing. Well, to sum it up: There's a lot of information missing there. I, myself, switched to macOS a few years ago and I absolutely love my M1 Pro device. But I can't simply justify another purchase if I can't even really compare both. That's where the reproduction-ability comes in handy. If it was that way, I could just do what he did / described as the test and easily compare. Additionally, as it stands right now: There's just this massive missing factor of transparency. That's my take.
Such a great review. Great laptops through and through. If you got M1, probably best to hold out until you really have to upgrade. M-Series is just too good.
•M4 --- Almost as powerful as an M3 Pro/M2 Pro •M4 Pro --- M* Max level •M4 Max --- M* Ultra level • They all outperform any processor currently available in Single-Core.
1:45 Dave when you zoomed in on your face the focus was out. I think it's the same everytime you add that* face cam. Do you crop in on your face while editing cause it feels like it tbh.
🎯 Key points for quick navigation: 00:01 *🚀 Performance Overview* - The M4 Max offers significant CPU and GPU improvements, - Outperforms the M2 Ultra in benchmarks and workflows, - Comparable thermal performance with minimal power consumption increase. 00:35 *💾 Memory and Upgrade Advice* - Increased memory bandwidth significantly enhances performance, - Base configuration now starts at 16 GB, - Advises against upgrading from older M1, M2, M3 models due to rapid progression in performance. 02:05 *🌟 Screen Features* - New Nano texture finish reduces reflections, valuable on laptops, - Screens can now reach up to 1000 nits brightness in bright environments, - The finish is part of the glass and supposedly does not affect durability. 04:11 *🔌 Ports and Battery Life* - Increment in USB-C ports from two to three on all models, - Introduction of Thunderbolt 5 on Pro and Max chips for higher resolution displays, - Marginal improvements in battery life for lighter tasks. 05:08 *📷 Webcam and Design* - Upgraded to a 12 MP sensor enabling Center Stage technology, - Space gray color option removed, replaced with space black, - Performance boost, particularly in GPU, exceeds expectations.
i was planning on buying an m4 macbook pro, but the m4 mac mini is just too good a value to pass up... gonna go with upgrading my mac mini for this gen and maybe get a new macbook pro in the future when there's a bigger jump in value in upgrading
The M4 Pro vs M3 Pro is a drastic improvement, but the M4 Max vs M3 Max is less so, the battery improvements are 13m and performance is under 20% - it's a good time to pick up a refurb M3 Max I think!
Any advice on me getting a base model M4 16 GB vs base model M4 Pro 24 GB MacBook Pro? It will be my first Macbook and I will primarily use it to edit 1080p and 4k videos using Davinci Resolve for TH-cam that normally run about ten minutes in length.
so the question is... silver or space black? Space grey was the best... but they say the space black gets lots of finger prints so i guess i go for silver?
You can tilt the ipad and avoid the reflection on the screen in 0.02 seconds while using it but you cannot tilt the macbook on the desk that easy ! Nano texture on a laptop is goood
Nano texture glass is good but ridiculously overpriced compared to what it costs apple to make. Same with additional storage, ram, etc. It needs to atleast 50% cheaper. I'd have considered if it was.
It feels increasingly true that the base models of Apple's devices have pretty reasonable prices, but as soon as you start adding anything else the price gets out of control. Charging $200 for an extra 8 GB of RAM or for an extra 256 GB of storage is just crazy.
Etching isn't cheap, $150 is normal and this is a laptop display not sub 10'. Ram/CPU isn't too terrible besides the upgrade path and limited bandwidth on binned Max chips, storage only becomes more insane the cheaper nand prices get $1800-$2200 for the Pro isn't bad, if anything get a used M3 or go with a base mac mini to save more.
Hi Dave, I have MacBook Pro M1 Max and the battery consumption is not great. If I want to balance between performance and battery usage, could M (Pro) version do that ?
Question about the screen finish, if you are wearing polarizing lenses, does it still look okay? Most antireflective stuff isn't really readable with polarized lenses.
@user-jr7bb6g9ev I've ordered M4 base. I do not need any pro performance features since base m4 now supports 2 displays and thunderbolt. Air sucks - fatal speakers, display, camera, and passive cooling in any form is fat no. Also any sources on that? I can't find any photo of cooling/teardown. And "because M3 mbp had" is not valid source.
@@SULFURIOUS Pro/Air is just better value but at least you know whats needed. Reviewer said max/? is dual fan and I doubt they added 2 unless you get the 16in/Pro. Crazy thats all I've heard or can find about it a day before launch
@user-jr7bb6g9ev only MBP14 Pro with base M3 had single fan. But since they also changed chassy to X3 thunderbolt they might have as well give 2 fans to the m4. MacBook Air doesn't have any value to me, it's worth like 400 USD at best hardware wise.
@@SULFURIOUS TB4 shouldn't be that bad on M4 and Apple "needs" their upgrade ladder to start with big jumps. The Air has value like a Pro Pro, $800 windows laptop might beat it in specs but loses in what light users care for
@@daustonian9331 I mean they probably would've if it was possible, but with how thin mobile screen tech is now I don't think its viable over etched glass.
Really nice improvements this year. Especially on the GPU and Screen options
If you'd like a glossy display on your matte screen, you can always use a glossy screen protector to achieve the effect.
Tech is finding its sweet spot
@@redwanabir2557 can you get some some sort third party matte coating/film after you bought the glossy screen or is there no way to tone down the reflections on macs other than ordering the nano-textures?
Does the displayed image take any sort of degradation over the glossy version? I mean sharpness, contrast, black levels etc?
Brother can you please give me one, I really need one for my law school
This is how you do a TH-cam channel. All info, no bs and no begging. Effective. Efficient. And look at that... going on 4M subscribers. Well deserved. Well done.
That, and no annoying background music. 🎉
damn this was too clean
Thought this as well
Totally agreed
Found the bot
When it comes to being concise without compromising on quality, you have to give it to Dave.
cranking them reviews out like clockwork.
it’s that time of the year 🙂↔️
I still have my M1 Max macbook pro 16”, it’s still a beast and i don’t have any particular reason to upgrade. I run my architectural stuff amazing, still sounds amazing, still have a massive battery life. It’s awesome .
Just get a screen protector film for 10$, done. You're welcomed.
Same. My M1 still does all I want.
I'm still on a m1 air and not a complaint in the world. I'd argue that the first gen m series chips are still very competitive in today's market when compared to windows laptops especially at the price you can get them at now.
ffs get the screen protector
: as a owner of broken macbook pro m1 16"
I just got the M4 max, upgrading from M1 MBA. Hopefully I am not going to think of something else till M10 or something.
This lighting and color grading is awesome. I like it 💡
2:00 did i hear a dave screaming? lol
*moaning
What is that 😆
glitch in the matrix :D
freaky ah
I've been looking for M2 Ultra & M4 Max comparison entire day, glad you included them in your benchmark
It is worth noting that the M4 Max has 546 GB/s bandwidth only in the top version. The binned one has something around 406 GB/s.
I can’t say I would ever notice or care but thanks for the info.
This is also to be expected, full set of memory controllers on binned dies are either faulty or shut down due to the rest being broken. If you opt in for a lesser chip, you can't get as much system memory either. 406 GB/s is also a step up from the M3 step down to 300 GB/s. M2 Max had 400 GB/s.
@@null_geodesic True, but this info is veeery rarely given in any M4 materials. Check the charts that Dave used - it is all the same stuff, as everywhere else - M4 Max = 546 GB/s. This year it is even more tricky, because the memory options are locked and switching the RAM options causes in many cases also a change of the CPU type.
@@ancientflamesi really wonder which people this things are useful for and for which workflow. maybe someone will leave a comment :)
Wow! Two reviews in under an hour, great job!
Nice short review. Two things. 1 the nano texture is a pain to clean without the supplied cloth. 2 is the Max chip in the 14" body still being thermal throtlled and making the fans get annoyingly loud? I am hoping the binned max isnt but waiting for reviews.
It's so cloth doesn't snag the etching and gets between it, you'll have less fingerprints to wipe down though.
From my research M3 never throttled, just had hot thermals under extended loads.
@@user-jr7bb6g9ev M3 max in the 14" chassis most defiantly throttled. I have hands on with Eight 14" M3 max laptops.
@@user-jr7bb6g9ev The M3 Max in the 14" chassis most defiantly throttled under load once cooling system was heat soaked. I tested eight 14 m3 max macbook pros at work.
So happy you made this and I saw the nano texture I thought it would not be a big deal but really seems to help a lot!
After seeing your setup and how you do the camera work, I can understand now how you can pump out such high quality content so fast. Very impressive.
where can i see this?
@@dimitardrew Check his previous video of the Mac Mini
I think it’s needed to say that brighter display is only available on M4 Pro and M4 Max. Regular M4 can’t still hit 1000 nits - at least without using 3rd party tools
Actually the apple website states m4 macbook pro has 1000 nits brightness on SDR as well
Those graphs are insanely clean🎉
Cool split second intro! Reminds me of the old Dave2D with the laptop reviews and fancy animations! :)
Not an Apple fan, but this is the first device of theirs I've actually considered purchasing.
You will love it. Iam still running my M1 for work. And it’s great.
Consider what happens if you need to replace the ram or ssd first lol
@@_Fl4K I grew up on windows and not once did I upgrade my ram or ssd. Upgrading your computer is the way to go for most people who need RAM and if you need storage, consider an external drive. It’s more economical anyway
@ not talking about upgrading I’m talking about fixing, all the manufacturers for these chips stand behind them lasting for only about 3-4 years.. sure most last longer, but they often dont
@@_Fl4K oh, repairability is a whole different issue. I think it’s hit or miss depending on the brand. Apple, Razer, and many others are notorious for being difficult to repair. Luckily, I’ve found my Apple devices to be very reliable. Hopefully they continue to hold up in the future!
Looking forward to the nano texture and brighter display. :) awesome review
Not the first time they have matte display on a macbook tho. They had matte display option for 17 inch macbook bro around 13 years ago
thanks Dave for a clear no b/s review
OLED would have been nice
Rumors point to 2026-2027 for that
@@Metamine0 we'll get macbook killer x elite fully working by then lol with 4K 120Hz OLED and better battery
only if it comes without OLED PWM flicker. which is a huge issue for many people on the new iPad Pros.
@thescentsofme idk what that is, im using vivobook pro 14 Oled 3K 90Hz 10bit for almost 2.5 yrs and never had a bit of a problem. Even though charts on screen all the time. Either apple using cheap displays or their dual OLED tech fckd up
@@ViralEnter10ment nah, pwm is just an issue due to the nature of OLEDs. Iirc, everyone technically sees it, but about 5-10% of the population is actually extra sensitive to it to the point that that they're unable to use OLEDs that have too low of a PWM DC dimming rate. You need that rate to be much higher than the 480 Hz Apple currently is using (the screen is still 120 Hz, but the rate at which the pixels themselves are refreshing is much higher to try to mitigate PWM flicker).
The way the nanotexture changes the overhead light from white to that pinkish-red is a bit worrisome though, since that suggests if it's doing that to reflections then it's also adding that coloured tint to the screen output as well.
its compensated by color grading of that screen, no worries
For people who need accurate color grading, I figured this would be an issue?
Amazing and on point.
Would have preferred more insight on the graphics side of stuff. Especially the "gaming" promises.
But fair enough. A great review
Been waiting for this!!!!
It'd have been nice to see those workflows in which the M4 Max outperforms the M2 Ultra, because your graphs state otherwise. Other than that, nicely done as usual, Dave!
Really tempted to upgrade, but will wait for M5 pro OLED 😊
I currently have a MacBook Air Original M1 with 8gb ram. Would you recommend upgrading to the M4 pro. I do a lot of video and audio engineering and things like that. My thing is starting to slow down a lot.
Apple is holding on to Face ID like it's some revolutionary upgrade... so they can add it in 2-3 years from now
When it comes to Laptops review, D2D is the first channel to go
I wish you had touched on how this screen effects color accuracy? Should I get it for video and photo editing? The obvious answer seems like no, but I want to make sure.
Can you talk more about comparisons between the new M4 and the M2 pro or even M1 max as since they're priced similarly, do you think it's worth it? I think that's more interesting than comparing the more powerful ones, 99% of people won't really need that extra performance bump despite being significative because older models are already plenty powerful, and if they do I suppose they probably don't bother spending more, not the same story for 1500$ devices
dude my m2 pro has better specs than m3 or m4 swear
@realbosstakea I think you're talking about ram and storage, but still the cpu performance of m3/m4 is obviously better, question is how much better and is it worth it
@@yassinesafraoui nope my m2 pro out performs on cpu and gpu.
@@realbosstakea I see, that's great to hear thanks!
I was a windows user all my life then got a M1 Max MBP This October & man it's amazing..
I gotta work really hard to even get the thing to heatup usually by having a 4k edit going in Premiere with FL Studio & After Effects on in the background..
😢
I'm sorry if I missed it:
What would you consider a "light" and "heavy" workload if it comes to battery testing?
Light is usually browsing, emails, video playback.
Heavy is 3D rendering, video editing, gaming.
@@ancientflames Which is your take on the whole thing. I assume?
I know what can generally be considered as "light" and "heavy" workflows.
The question alluded to his lack of explanation.
I wanted a proper display of the test environment. Which table were those devices standing on? Was there any thermal throttling involved? Can truth be told about the measurements and are they inaccurate? And if they are, why's that the case?
It's simply the lack of information about the examination and the test itself that's prevalent to a point where I can't reproduce those results on my own.
Letter being one of the most important things if it's about empiric testing.
Well, to sum it up:
There's a lot of information missing there.
I, myself, switched to macOS a few years ago and I absolutely love my M1 Pro device. But I can't simply justify another purchase if I can't even really compare both.
That's where the reproduction-ability comes in handy. If it was that way, I could just do what he did / described as the test and easily compare.
Additionally, as it stands right now:
There's just this massive missing factor of transparency.
That's my take.
Such a great review. Great laptops through and through. If you got M1, probably best to hold out until you really have to upgrade. M-Series is just too good.
Do what you have done with the mini test. Connect your cameras to see if you can manage it with the laptop
•M4 --- Almost as powerful as an M3 Pro/M2 Pro
•M4 Pro --- M* Max level
•M4 Max --- M* Ultra level
• They all outperform any processor currently available in Single-Core.
does the nano texture affect the contrast or the colors?
Using Myst to demo graphics performance is :chefskiss:
Macbook pro 2011 was available with non-glare display, too. For an additional 100€ - good investment.
is it worth to upgrade from 2019 Intel Macbook Pro?
Do I need the special apple cloth to wipe the nanotexture glass, or I can wipe the screen with just any cloth?
1:45 Dave when you zoomed in on your face the focus was out. I think it's the same everytime you add that* face cam. Do you crop in on your face while editing cause it feels like it tbh.
i love your watch, what make and model is it?
🎯 Key points for quick navigation:
00:01 *🚀 Performance Overview*
- The M4 Max offers significant CPU and GPU improvements,
- Outperforms the M2 Ultra in benchmarks and workflows,
- Comparable thermal performance with minimal power consumption increase.
00:35 *💾 Memory and Upgrade Advice*
- Increased memory bandwidth significantly enhances performance,
- Base configuration now starts at 16 GB,
- Advises against upgrading from older M1, M2, M3 models due to rapid progression in performance.
02:05 *🌟 Screen Features*
- New Nano texture finish reduces reflections, valuable on laptops,
- Screens can now reach up to 1000 nits brightness in bright environments,
- The finish is part of the glass and supposedly does not affect durability.
04:11 *🔌 Ports and Battery Life*
- Increment in USB-C ports from two to three on all models,
- Introduction of Thunderbolt 5 on Pro and Max chips for higher resolution displays,
- Marginal improvements in battery life for lighter tasks.
05:08 *📷 Webcam and Design*
- Upgraded to a 12 MP sensor enabling Center Stage technology,
- Space gray color option removed, replaced with space black,
- Performance boost, particularly in GPU, exceeds expectations.
your channel should be called Dave2d Pro Reviewer :D
The real question about the nano-texture is does it affect the colors?
Uploaded before M5 release? Nice
Never had any mac looking forward for MacBook Pro
Wow, 2 videos! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
MY M1 Max is still smoking fast. Looking forward to M6 or M7 to see what we get!
facts im waiting till m8 or higher tbh my m2 outclass the m3 and m4
Best upgrade after m1 air
Planning to buy it soon
Should i buy a base m4 macbook pro
Or a 16 inch m2 pro
For the same price
Main use will be 4k video editing and studying
Id go for the 16 inch
Buy a macbook pro 14 base and mac mini for 599 lol
I think M2 Pro is enough
if mainly don't use external monitors, 16-inch is a pretty good choice
I finally caved and ordered one to replace my 2020 i5 Air that's been really pissing me off for a while now. My expectations are high.
i was planning on buying an m4 macbook pro, but the m4 mac mini is just too good a value to pass up... gonna go with upgrading my mac mini for this gen and maybe get a new macbook pro in the future when there's a bigger jump in value in upgrading
They still use half Right and Left D-pad buttons!!! Why???!!!
i love them, they are too small tho i wish it was bigger on my m2
Wallpaper link please. Thanks! Love your videos, always.
Upset apple took away the Pro version with 96GB of ram. I work in LLMs and i wanted the M4 pro with a ton of RAM!
How does Space Black compare to Space Gray in terms of fingerprints?
The M4 Pro vs M3 Pro is a drastic improvement, but the M4 Max vs M3 Max is less so, the battery improvements are 13m and performance is under 20% - it's a good time to pick up a refurb M3 Max I think!
these have been the best laptops ever made. my m1 is still phenomenal
Please do a performance comparison with intel ultra 200v
For most people even the M1 is a great deal. Those laptops are so good not gonna lie.
The Wallpaper, is it macbook pro m4 or?
I have the Nano 13" iPad Pro and I'll never go back to glossy. Any chance of an M4 Ultra MBP?
What are your thoughts on the finish of the Space Black model, and the extent to which is shows (or doesn't show) fingerprints?
Any advice on me getting a base model M4 16 GB vs base model M4 Pro 24 GB MacBook Pro? It will be my first Macbook and I will primarily use it to edit 1080p and 4k videos using Davinci Resolve for TH-cam that normally run about ten minutes in length.
Should i upgrade my M3 Max MBP?
Base M4 Pro or a higher spec M3 Macbook Air?
The fan itself is a determination
Would a m1,2,3 case/shell fit the m4?
nice review, but I wish you showed some Final cut pro export comparisions. I don't trust those benchmark tests.
so the question is... silver or space black? Space grey was the best... but they say the space black gets lots of finger prints so i guess i go for silver?
Thanks Dave. Not getting as I have M3 max mbp and no OLED screens like iPad m4 pros.
Just M4 Max? How does the Pro compares to other gen devices, what about the base non Pro M4?
Very nice New Screen
which windows laptop is the most similar to the macbook air m2 in terms of price, performance, battery life and screen?
Air has better build quality, ease of use, and battery than most windows laptops. Only shortcoming is $400 power and pretty bad screen.
I’ll never understand why they killed space gray 🤷🏻♂️, I kinda wanna hold on to my M1pro till they bring it back haha
Nice one! 👍🏼
M4 standar vs M1 pro or MAX???
Is the display response time better on the M4 models compared to the M3, especially in scrolling, switching between workspaces?
Hi dave, can we get a macbook clean customization tutorial?
but can it run crysis?
wallpaper from where bro? :D
@Dave2d Where can I get that wallpaper?
You can tilt the ipad and avoid the reflection on the screen in 0.02 seconds while using it but you cannot tilt the macbook on the desk that easy !
Nano texture on a laptop is goood
0.38 is it the M2 ULTRA 24C / 76C or M4 ULTRA 24C / 76C ?
Dave what is your daily use laptop
My M1 Max is still overkill don't see a reason to upgrade anytime soon.
Nano texture glass is good but ridiculously overpriced compared to what it costs apple to make.
Same with additional storage, ram, etc.
It needs to atleast 50% cheaper.
I'd have considered if it was.
It feels increasingly true that the base models of Apple's devices have pretty reasonable prices, but as soon as you start adding anything else the price gets out of control. Charging $200 for an extra 8 GB of RAM or for an extra 256 GB of storage is just crazy.
Etching isn't cheap, $150 is normal and this is a laptop display not sub 10'.
Ram/CPU isn't too terrible besides the upgrade path and limited bandwidth on binned Max chips, storage only becomes more insane the cheaper nand prices get
$1800-$2200 for the Pro isn't bad, if anything get a used M3 or go with a base mac mini to save more.
Hi Dave, I have MacBook Pro M1 Max and the battery consumption is not great. If I want to balance between performance and battery usage, could M (Pro) version do that ?
Yes Pro is good for that, although I'd look into why your battery is not great so you're addressing the issue effectively
Is it worth to upgrade from m1 pro 16gb ram or I better to wait one more year for m5 MacBook?
If you can't name a demanding use for your macbook there isn't a reason to upgrade until it becomes annoying slow or lacks important features
Imagine the performance of the m4 max in the bigger 16 inch chassis
It's the same? Only difference is cooling.
16Go, 3 usb c : they are finally making a great pro device !
Which watch are you wearing
Question about the screen finish, if you are wearing polarizing lenses, does it still look okay? Most antireflective stuff isn't really readable with polarized lenses.
Should be better than a screen protector or matte finish, although I would go see in person to confirm
Is 14 inch basic M4 single or dual fan?
Single, I'd opt for a pro or air/M3 though
@user-jr7bb6g9ev I've ordered M4 base. I do not need any pro performance features since base m4 now supports 2 displays and thunderbolt.
Air sucks - fatal speakers, display, camera, and passive cooling in any form is fat no.
Also any sources on that? I can't find any photo of cooling/teardown. And "because M3 mbp had" is not valid source.
@@SULFURIOUS Pro/Air is just better value but at least you know whats needed.
Reviewer said max/? is dual fan and I doubt they added 2 unless you get the 16in/Pro.
Crazy thats all I've heard or can find about it a day before launch
@user-jr7bb6g9ev only MBP14 Pro with base M3 had single fan. But since they also changed chassy to X3 thunderbolt they might have as well give 2 fans to the m4.
MacBook Air doesn't have any value to me, it's worth like 400 USD at best hardware wise.
@@SULFURIOUS TB4 shouldn't be that bad on M4 and Apple "needs" their upgrade ladder to start with big jumps.
The Air has value like a Pro Pro, $800 windows laptop might beat it in specs but loses in what light users care for
How about a matte screen overlay for $30 vs 150 for a ‘nano’ ? I’d like to see that comparison on any model, if you have an appendix section
A protector will look far worse at the cost of some reflection handling. Overlay is for bigger not mobile panels.
Thanks - opportunity to make a thinner, well performing protect-lay
@@daustonian9331 I mean they probably would've if it was possible, but with how thin mobile screen tech is now I don't think its viable over etched glass.
thanks
Does the 14” with the Max chip throttle compared to the 16” under heavy sustained workflows?
From my research on M3 no, should be the same on M4. 16" will handle thermals a lot better though but thats just physics for such a chonker.
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I think this will be a nice upgrade from my i5 2016