To type Japanese you use romaji. Like this: おはよございます= ohayo gozaimasu " good morning" gozaimasu is used for politeness. You can also just say Ohayo. For typing Japanese on your phone use: Desh Japanese keyboard
I’m gonna start using this. I’ve been making big progress with reading and looking up words, but I’ve realized that too many unfamiliar Kanji readings creates a bottleneck for topics I haven’t read about before. It’s too overwhelming to keep it all in my head at once in order to parse sentences. Hoping a few months of this will help!
I rarely use discord, but this looks like another interesting way to learn kanji. So far I've been using WK, but will check this out. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for this. I’ve been using the Kanji Channel on TH-cam for months now. I’ve definitely learned a lot of Kanji and vocabulary from their videos but I’ve been looking for another method for some time now. This is great, thank you so much for sharing.
Thanks for this, it is a fun alternative to writing kanji manually. I will probably still do that to make sure i can write the kanji by hand too but this is a fun change of pace for every now and again.
Thank you soo much for this video!!! I've been learning kanji using wanikani and heisig's RTK for a couple years now and I've never seen such a method! Learning each kanji's reading independently has been a grueling task, and I feel like it made me realize the patterns much later too ): I'm going to try this out for sure. (I really feel the jisho troubles and can't wait to not have to rely on the radical dictionary :D)
thanks for watching!! i had been learning japanese for 3 years with more traditional methods like books, anki, etc before i started using kotoba bot.. i did manage to learn kanji up to N3, but with kotoba bot i'm able to read kanji in the N1 level! i hope it's working for you because i really don't know if it works for other people,,,,
@@nukeloser yea I've been doing it off and on recently! I have started including it into my daily studies and I have definitely improved overall. Thanks again and best of luck
@@flapjackinc6142 Is wanikani effective for you ? Can you give me some recommend 'cause I started learning wanikani method and if you learnt kotoba bot, please give me some suggestion too, thank you
@@duyyy8452 to be totally real with you, it's not sufficient on its own. The most effective thing I found is to pair it with immersion. The first 2 years of my study (2020-2022) was a combo of wanikani, RTK, and traditional College study. My spoken japanese was very poor and may listening was about the same as one would expect. This passed year (2022-2 days ago) I actually studied abroad in Japan and my comprehension sky rocketed. During that year I completely stopped all Anki around 2 months in, but I got pretty decent in japanese. I wouldn't consider myself fluent and I feel like I really didn't speak enough with the japanese students, as I spent most of my time with the foreign students. My takeaway from this is that daily practice in the language is key. It's as simple as the pros in this language say. The more time spent interacting with the language the better you become. One thing that I can't recommend enough though, if you don't have access to going to japan which I understand most people don't, pair wanikani with some sort of content in your target language and try to spend at least an hour a day in your language. If u have any other questions I can try answering em if u got any (:
i just wanna say. i love you so much. i started doing this 8 months ago, and i went from n5-n4 and now i can read p much all n3 and a lot of n2 now japanese has been my passion for like 2 years now and this actually saved my life 😭 today was my first day of ap japanese, i looked at the kanji list and i was astonished to see i knew all 400 kanji before we even started learning them thank u brother
Ngl i just learned new words with the kanji and just was able to learn lots of kanji just by increasing my vocabulary. I got good at remembering readings but im pathetic at radicals, but if i know the kanji already i guess its not really a necessary step. there are so many different ways to learn it, the noobs who try to avoid kanji are overrating the difficulty.
Personally, I like doing this with Anki since it's easier for me to keep track of which ones I know well and the ones I don't, but it's pretty much the same methodology. From what I've seen, I don't really think that learning individual readings or even radicals actually increases the rate at which people learn the kanji. The native speakers don't really even study radicals either, they just learn the whole kanji instead of in parts. Our brains aren't computers so breaking things down too much just gets us confused by the details instead of naturally acquiring and recognizing useful patterns.
Absolutely, and the point of me explaining it like I did was just to give an idea of how I think it works. Obviously we won't know every radical, but we can subconsciously recognize the shape of a kanji. That shape is mostly owed to the radical in the kanji, which is why I focused on radicals in particular. The point is to bombard your brain with as much kanji as possible so that you have a large pool of reference to piece together patterns subconsciously. You could do this with anki, but I preferred kotoba bot for its faster pace and the fact I already have Discord open 24/7 so it's less of a barrier than having to open anki everyday. Sometimes I forget or get lazy to open anki 😅
This sounds like a great idea, I have the bot in a server but barely used it long ago. I now practice kanji writing and rewriting them on a notebook, but I often forget them or not know how to read them, thank you for sharing this method sjdndn
I'll definitely try this, although my approach already has been similar. I use the "all in one kanji" deck in anki, which I think has all the jouyou kanji, maybe more and basically what I've been doing is for (almost) every reading I'll find a word and learn it, then try to recall the word when the card comes up. The cards have several example words at the bottom so I'll just pick a word for each reading the list has, if there is no example word for a reading then I don't bother because the reading is probably rare (with some exceptions where I personally already know a word that I can add to the card). The good thing about the deck is that each card is actually 2 cards, one that shows you the kanji and another that shows you the meaning. That way you learn not only to read but also associate the meaning of the kanji with the word it is used in. So when you encounter an unknown word you can guess its meaning not only from context but also from the kanji meanings themselves.
Amazing tool, thanks for the recommendation. However I think the biggest downside is that you won't learn to write kanji this way you will need to do that separately. But in a way, learning Japanese is such a huge task that perhaps breaking down to listening-reading-speaking-writing is not an issue, because otherwise you just won't be able to hold on.
This is very interesting and exciting, I generally feel the same kind of way where I can read words, but can't tell you the definition. But this will help w/ reading, which in general I think can help
This usually happens for single kanji, where depending on the context, the kanji could signify different words. Take the kanji 時 for example. 「私は毎日午後1時に昼ご飯を食べます」, in this sentence 「時」means "o'clock" as in 「1時」 "1 o'clock" and is read じ. But in this sentence: 「あの時、私は何もできなかった」, 「時」 means "time" as in「あの時」 "at the time", and is read とき。So you should know all of them but you don't have to think of 「時」as having multiple readings, but as being able to mean different things in different contexts. Just memorize one of the readings for now and let the others come naturally as you build your vocabulary by listening, reading, and speaking.
If you do it on a public server then anyone can join in. You can make your own server and invite kotoba bot if you want to do it on your own. Just google kotoba bot and find out how to add bots to your server.
@@nukeloser I appreciate the info. I am very early on and I am not sure conquest is the best place to start. I did give it a shot but skipped the first 5 and it stopped automically. Still appreciate the info though.
@@paragon722 yepp that happened a lot when i was starting out too! i just kept attempting it over and over and eventually i got to where i am now. it may have taken me less time to learn to read kanji but it did still take me months. if you're a beginner in japanese it might help to learn a bit about kanji radicals beforehand
For someone who has never used or heard of discord, can you back up and explain the process of getting the bot? I downloaded the discord app but I have no idea where to find kotoba
Thanks man I got it, although way too fast for me, I couldn't even read it before the time was up, any way to slow it down? I'm a beginner so I just tried n5
What are your methods for learning grammar? And do you know how the person you met at the JLPT learned the meaning of the words, is that something kotoba bot can do or were they just looking it up on jisho while using the bot or something?
Kotoba bot also shows the meaning of every word so you can memorize meanings too, it was just difficult for me personally. For grammar I watch tons of TH-cam as input. It helps to constantly hear the language so you get used to as many sentence structures as possible. You can also study with jlptsensei.com or youtube channels like Nihongo no Mori, Sambonjuku, Mesh Class, and many more.
It depends on what level you're at in terms of reading kanji. I started from an N4 level, had basic knowledge of different kanji radicals, and I could already read some "N3 level" words. It's most beneficial to train at a level where you face a good bit of challenge, so just above your current ability. That's why I combined the N3 deck with decks that are an even higher level. If you're starting from scratch, perhaps combine N5 and N4 decks. If you're above that, do N3 N2 and N1 mixed.
@@nukeloser Cool. I've been trying out this method for some days since I watched this video and I've been really liking it so far! Way better than studying the kanji individually! Thanks a lot :)
so you used flashcards like everyone else 😂 Far from the most efficient method in terms of time spent and the strength of the knowledge, but I think everyone ends up at this conclusion because they are such a blocker to making progress in any other aspect of the language. And SRS is just habit forming enough that even tho it's boring people are able to do it consistently.
I watched but didn't understand the actual method at all. What is the process? Where are you getting the actual answers from? It cones across like you already have the answers unless I'm blind to what is going on.
Try using kotoba bot. If you can't get the answer right it will show you the correct reading of the kanji. If you get it wrong enough times eventually you'll start to remember the correct answer.
I had already been learning Japanese for 2 years and had passed N4 when I started using kotoba bot, sorry if that confused you 😅 Feel free to start at your own level
You have studied japanese phonetics right? i can hear your r's really being a flap, rather than being rhotic or anything, also how you are following the correct pitches of words.
I recommend this server: discord.gg/jeis It's a language exchange server for people to learn Japanese and for Japanese people to learn English. You can also find servers here, just search whatever community you want (e.g. Japanese learning): discord.com/servers
Just read manga bro. Picture hints for meaning with furigana next to the kanji for almost every single word. This looks extremely painful. What’s the point of learning the readings of kanji and words? So you can read stuff right? Why not just go read actual sentences with accompanying audio and/or furigana? Learn the meaning of kanji to build the skill of being able to puzzle out the meaning of words but drilling pronunciation outside of sentences seems like such a huge waste of time and soul sucking. Just read guys. Manga, books, subtitles, anything. Lots of weebs made kickass software to make it easy for you.
I'm just sharing how I personally learned kanji. It may look painful to you, but it was fun for me. It wasn't a waste of time for me either, this practice is what helped me pass JLPT N2 and has allowed me to get this far in reading ability. I don't need furigana for most things anymore. If it isn't fun for you, then don't do it. But it was for me and I'm simply sharing my experiences. At the end of the day if it's fun for you, that's all that matters and you should keep doing it. If not, then don't. Simple as that.
how do you type japanese
Go to your settings, go to languages, then add Japanese. Then you can press Windows Key+Spacebar to change languages.
To type Japanese you use romaji. Like this:
おはよございます= ohayo gozaimasu
" good morning" gozaimasu is used for politeness. You can also just say Ohayo.
For typing Japanese on your phone use: Desh Japanese keyboard
@@angelspiritfoxxおはようございます, no? I believe it’s pronounced Ohayō and spelled Ohayou
@@2oqh clearly they arent based
@@angelspiritfoxx you don't need to use "Desh Japanese keyboard" literally download the normal keyboard for your phone
I’m gonna start using this. I’ve been making big progress with reading and looking up words, but I’ve realized that too many unfamiliar Kanji readings creates a bottleneck for topics I haven’t read about before. It’s too overwhelming to keep it all in my head at once in order to parse sentences. Hoping a few months of this will help!
Good luck!!
how did it work out
how long do you use it per day
I rarely use discord, but this looks like another interesting way to learn kanji. So far I've been using WK, but will check this out. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for this. I’ve been using the Kanji Channel on TH-cam for months now. I’ve definitely learned a lot of Kanji and vocabulary from their videos but I’ve been looking for another method for some time now. This is great, thank you so much for sharing.
Thanks for this, it is a fun alternative to writing kanji manually. I will probably still do that to make sure i can write the kanji by hand too but this is a fun change of pace for every now and again.
Thank you soo much for this video!!! I've been learning kanji using wanikani and heisig's RTK for a couple years now and I've never seen such a method! Learning each kanji's reading independently has been a grueling task, and I feel like it made me realize the patterns much later too ): I'm going to try this out for sure. (I really feel the jisho troubles and can't wait to not have to rely on the radical dictionary :D)
thanks for watching!! i had been learning japanese for 3 years with more traditional methods like books, anki, etc before i started using kotoba bot.. i did manage to learn kanji up to N3, but with kotoba bot i'm able to read kanji in the N1 level! i hope it's working for you because i really don't know if it works for other people,,,,
@@nukeloser yea I've been doing it off and on recently! I have started including it into my daily studies and I have definitely improved overall. Thanks again and best of luck
@@flapjackinc6142 Is wanikani effective for you ? Can you give me some recommend 'cause I started learning wanikani method and if you learnt kotoba bot, please give me some suggestion too, thank you
@@duyyy8452 to be totally real with you, it's not sufficient on its own. The most effective thing I found is to pair it with immersion. The first 2 years of my study (2020-2022) was a combo of wanikani, RTK, and traditional College study. My spoken japanese was very poor and may listening was about the same as one would expect. This passed year (2022-2 days ago) I actually studied abroad in Japan and my comprehension sky rocketed. During that year I completely stopped all Anki around 2 months in, but I got pretty decent in japanese. I wouldn't consider myself fluent and I feel like I really didn't speak enough with the japanese students, as I spent most of my time with the foreign students. My takeaway from this is that daily practice in the language is key. It's as simple as the pros in this language say. The more time spent interacting with the language the better you become. One thing that I can't recommend enough though, if you don't have access to going to japan which I understand most people don't, pair wanikani with some sort of content in your target language and try to spend at least an hour a day in your language. If u have any other questions I can try answering em if u got any (:
Thank you so much for showing me this, I always wanted to find a fun and competitive way to study kanji
i just wanna say. i love you so much.
i started doing this 8 months ago, and i went from n5-n4 and now i can read p much all n3 and a lot of n2 now
japanese has been my passion for like 2 years now and this actually saved my life 😭 today was my first day of ap japanese, i looked at the kanji list and i was astonished to see i knew all 400 kanji before we even started learning them
thank u brother
Thanks for the recommandation of kotoba bot, I'm definitely gonna use this.
Ngl i just learned new words with the kanji and just was able to learn lots of kanji just by increasing my vocabulary. I got good at remembering readings but im pathetic at radicals, but if i know the kanji already i guess its not really a necessary step. there are so many different ways to learn it, the noobs who try to avoid kanji are overrating the difficulty.
thanks for introducing me to this method, might use it if i ever get out of my lazy slump lol
Personally, I like doing this with Anki since it's easier for me to keep track of which ones I know well and the ones I don't, but it's pretty much the same methodology. From what I've seen, I don't really think that learning individual readings or even radicals actually increases the rate at which people learn the kanji. The native speakers don't really even study radicals either, they just learn the whole kanji instead of in parts. Our brains aren't computers so breaking things down too much just gets us confused by the details instead of naturally acquiring and recognizing useful patterns.
Absolutely, and the point of me explaining it like I did was just to give an idea of how I think it works. Obviously we won't know every radical, but we can subconsciously recognize the shape of a kanji. That shape is mostly owed to the radical in the kanji, which is why I focused on radicals in particular. The point is to bombard your brain with as much kanji as possible so that you have a large pool of reference to piece together patterns subconsciously. You could do this with anki, but I preferred kotoba bot for its faster pace and the fact I already have Discord open 24/7 so it's less of a barrier than having to open anki everyday. Sometimes I forget or get lazy to open anki 😅
oh my gosh thank you so much
This sounds like a great idea, I have the bot in a server but barely used it long ago. I now practice kanji writing and rewriting them on a notebook, but I often forget them or not know how to read them, thank you for sharing this method sjdndn
Writing kanji over and over is definitely good for learning how to write!! Mix and match different methods of learning to find what works for you! :D
Thank you, i learn by Wanikani but it it's hard to recognize the kanji because in onyoumi the kanji have the same sound. THANKS
im gonna try using this, i've been making very slow progress so i will try it out.
Thank you!
love ya man 👊 thanks a lot
I can't go to the links from my phone for somereason
I'll definitely try this, although my approach already has been similar. I use the "all in one kanji" deck in anki, which I think has all the jouyou kanji, maybe more and basically what I've been doing is for (almost) every reading I'll find a word and learn it, then try to recall the word when the card comes up.
The cards have several example words at the bottom so I'll just pick a word for each reading the list has, if there is no example word for a reading then I don't bother because the reading is probably rare (with some exceptions where I personally already know a word that I can add to the card).
The good thing about the deck is that each card is actually 2 cards, one that shows you the kanji and another that shows you the meaning. That way you learn not only to read but also associate the meaning of the kanji with the word it is used in. So when you encounter an unknown word you can guess its meaning not only from context but also from the kanji meanings themselves.
I'd love a video on the "kanji that look similar with same onyomi"!
Amazing tool, thanks for the recommendation. However I think the biggest downside is that you won't learn to write kanji this way you will need to do that separately. But in a way, learning Japanese is such a huge task that perhaps breaking down to listening-reading-speaking-writing is not an issue, because otherwise you just won't be able to hold on.
You can take your time to read the meaning from the Kotoba bot. May take you a bit more time, but will go a long way
beri gud, i laik it so muchi
ngomong terus matcha
Damn I really should step up my game for learn japanese. I've gotten lazy and only been learning words through sentence mining.
This is very interesting and exciting, I generally feel the same kind of way where I can read words, but can't tell you the definition. But this will help w/ reading, which in general I think can help
Anyone else have the kanji not appearing?
You might want to lower the music volume next time mate, thanks for the video though ^^
hmm i'll give it a try
sometimes the answer has multiple readings,which one should i memorize
This usually happens for single kanji, where depending on the context, the kanji could signify different words. Take the kanji 時 for example. 「私は毎日午後1時に昼ご飯を食べます」, in this sentence 「時」means "o'clock" as in 「1時」 "1 o'clock" and is read じ. But in this sentence: 「あの時、私は何もできなかった」, 「時」 means "time" as in「あの時」 "at the time", and is read とき。So you should know all of them but you don't have to think of 「時」as having multiple readings, but as being able to mean different things in different contexts. Just memorize one of the readings for now and let the others come naturally as you build your vocabulary by listening, reading, and speaking.
jerma jumpscare
Been using Anki for forever and progression feels terrible. Added this to my personal discord server and I like it so far. Thanks for this.
Can anyone give me kotoba joint link
discord.gg/cave-of-linguists
W video
I just do Anki and learn 40 new words each day, it's pretty efficient for me at least, I maintain a 94% retention rate
Noob, sorry...Where do you find the flashcards?
@@L3ma_Illustration I use the Core 2k/6k deck, you should be able to easily find it with a quick search
why are all the good youtubers jerma fans
subbed
Good
Very nice👍🍞
Is this with the whole group where they can see/participate or can you do it by yourself?
If you do it on a public server then anyone can join in. You can make your own server and invite kotoba bot if you want to do it on your own. Just google kotoba bot and find out how to add bots to your server.
@@nukeloser Thanks!
Should I start by doing N5 or N4 if I am in that range or just run 1, 2 and 3 as you did?
feel free to start at your own level! i had already passed n4 when i started using kotoba bot so that's why i did n3-n1
@@nukeloser I appreciate the info. I am very early on and I am not sure conquest is the best place to start. I did give it a shot but skipped the first 5 and it stopped automically.
Still appreciate the info though.
@@paragon722 yepp that happened a lot when i was starting out too! i just kept attempting it over and over and eventually i got to where i am now. it may have taken me less time to learn to read kanji but it did still take me months. if you're a beginner in japanese it might help to learn a bit about kanji radicals beforehand
For someone who has never used or heard of discord, can you back up and explain the process of getting the bot? I downloaded the discord app but I have no idea where to find kotoba
Join the server in the description...
Thanks man I got it, although way too fast for me, I couldn't even read it before the time was up, any way to slow it down? I'm a beginner so I just tried n5
What are your methods for learning grammar? And do you know how the person you met at the JLPT learned the meaning of the words, is that something kotoba bot can do or were they just looking it up on jisho while using the bot or something?
Kotoba bot also shows the meaning of every word so you can memorize meanings too, it was just difficult for me personally. For grammar I watch tons of TH-cam as input. It helps to constantly hear the language so you get used to as many sentence structures as possible. You can also study with jlptsensei.com or youtube channels like Nihongo no Mori, Sambonjuku, Mesh Class, and many more.
@@nukeloser hey thanks man! I appreciate it
Difficult to listen to the dialog with the background music
wow
Would you recommend to do the quizzes with several decks mixed, as you did in the video with N3, N2 and N1 decks, or to do them individually?
It depends on what level you're at in terms of reading kanji. I started from an N4 level, had basic knowledge of different kanji radicals, and I could already read some "N3 level" words. It's most beneficial to train at a level where you face a good bit of challenge, so just above your current ability. That's why I combined the N3 deck with decks that are an even higher level. If you're starting from scratch, perhaps combine N5 and N4 decks. If you're above that, do N3 N2 and N1 mixed.
@@nukeloser Cool. I've been trying out this method for some days since I watched this video and I've been really liking it so far! Way better than studying the kanji individually! Thanks a lot :)
do you have a link to the discord you were using?
discord.gg/cave-of-linguists Here you go
@@nukeloser hell yeah! thank you!!!
How many hours did it take you
I didn't keep track, but it was probably around 150 hours total
And how have u learned grammar?
watching a shit ton of youtube and anime.
so you used flashcards like everyone else 😂
Far from the most efficient method in terms of time spent and the strength of the knowledge, but I think everyone ends up at this conclusion because they are such a blocker to making progress in any other aspect of the language. And SRS is just habit forming enough that even tho it's boring people are able to do it consistently.
yeah i guess you're right.
Great idea, thanks. I've never used that bot.
What difficulty did you usually use? Just N1 or N3+N2+N1?
Nowadays i do N1+N2+3k+myouji+namae
Where do you get kotoba ,which discord server
most japanese language learning servers have them. this is a server that has kotoba discord.gg/cave-of-linguists
You can also just add it to your own server by googling Kotobabot and going from there, that’s what I did at least
I watched but didn't understand the actual method at all. What is the process? Where are you getting the actual answers from? It cones across like you already have the answers unless I'm blind to what is going on.
Try using kotoba bot. If you can't get the answer right it will show you the correct reading of the kanji. If you get it wrong enough times eventually you'll start to remember the correct answer.
@@nukeloser Oh I see, I was being blind to that part, my apologies. A bit like anki then but much prettier and easier on the eyes. Thanks for the vid!
How do you even write the japanese with your keyboard?
@@BangYongguk-sf8ly You can go to your settings, go to languages, then add Japanese
You use it in your own server
Yes you can add it to your own server or you can join a server that has it
That looks interesting to do, thank you for sharing, but how do you use your keyboard to write Japanese?
If you add Japanese in your computer's language settings you can type in Japanese
Oh great, somehow I thought it would be more complicated, Thanks !
so did you pass your N2 :)
yes
what's this server?
discord.gg/cave-of-linguists
why did you skip n5 and n4 tho? are we supposed to do that too?
I had already been learning Japanese for 2 years and had passed N4 when I started using kotoba bot, sorry if that confused you 😅 Feel free to start at your own level
@@nukeloser What's the best way to start learning?
@@SRN42069 japanese or kanji?
@@nukeloser Japanese
You have studied japanese phonetics right? i can hear your r's really being a flap, rather than being rhotic or anything, also how you are following the correct pitches of words.
Kind of, I watch a lot of Dogen's videos 😄
Hi, could you recommend any servers for learning Japanese? I don’t really know how to use discord, is there any way to find servers like that?
I recommend this server: discord.gg/jeis
It's a language exchange server for people to learn Japanese and for Japanese people to learn English.
You can also find servers here, just search whatever community you want (e.g. Japanese learning): discord.com/servers
@@nukeloser Thank you so much!
Just read manga bro. Picture hints for meaning with furigana next to the kanji for almost every single word.
This looks extremely painful. What’s the point of learning the readings of kanji and words? So you can read stuff right?
Why not just go read actual sentences with accompanying audio and/or furigana?
Learn the meaning of kanji to build the skill of being able to puzzle out the meaning of words but drilling pronunciation outside of sentences seems like such a huge waste of time and soul sucking.
Just read guys. Manga, books, subtitles, anything. Lots of weebs made kickass software to make it easy for you.
I'm just sharing how I personally learned kanji. It may look painful to you, but it was fun for me. It wasn't a waste of time for me either, this practice is what helped me pass JLPT N2 and has allowed me to get this far in reading ability. I don't need furigana for most things anymore. If it isn't fun for you, then don't do it. But it was for me and I'm simply sharing my experiences. At the end of the day if it's fun for you, that's all that matters and you should keep doing it. If not, then don't. Simple as that.
people have different ways of learning and they do what works for them whether you like it or not
I think "suii" is portugese man
your brain might be a little teeny tiny