@@benjaminbaer5485it's not a thing in modern America now that our education sucks. Back when our schools didn't fucking blow it was just a weird bit of American smugness
@@benjaminbaer5485 @TheGreatDanish I understand that shitting on America is in this season (I'm not an American btw), but the cause of spelling bee's existence is much more simple and non-political: English is a non-phonetic language.
this is a 9 month old comment at this point, but I've been struggling to add りんな as a friend... I can open her official page through the app, but clicking "add friend" doesnt work, it just doesnt register, and i cant find user ID or something to add her through it... any thoughts?
@@oj5707 Do you have a japanese sim card and phone number? If not then I think you're out of luck. I pretty much cant do anything with line due to my foreign sim and number.
@@maiy8786 nope... that so sad! I was really looking forward to it cuz it seemed really good for texting.... guess I'll have to settler with real people www
When I started to learn Japanese I made myself use the flick keyboard early on and now I'm pretty fast at it. It's so simple that most people could learn it as fast as they learned hiragana.
*hi five* Given that I suck at using a qwerty keyboard (on mobile/desktop) despite having a CS background, I have massive doubts that my flick keyboard attempts would pay off if I stuck with them, haha. With that, impressive work 🫡
I didn't know you could use qwerty until this video, and I've been using the flicking one all this time. The key is on using the suggested words at the top
Until this video I didn’t even know you could flick it and I wasn’t about to start punching my screen like an ancient flip phone keyboard (now I’ll try it)
@@murderoftrees Flicking takes a LONG time to get used to. I tried using it, and gave up after a week or so. Qwerty suits me better lol, because I'm used to that
@@nightventura I vastly prefer the flick keyboard because after using it occasionally for about a year I am now way faster with it than with the qwerty keyboard. It's so simple, intuitive and efficient for typing Japanese. I can now type Japanese faster than English text.
@@nightventura I dont know about this to be honest. If you know how the flip keyboard works it makes logical structural sense. qwerty doesnt have a logical structure, its just random letters. Also a lot of japanese words are just weird with latin alphabet. For example びょ is bYO ぎょ is Gyo, so why is しょ "sho" and not "shyo"? Also if you want an ん you need to wite "nn", which can make a lot of typos if you forget about it. For example 反応(はんのう) I need to press "n" 3 times, but if I write fast, I might mess it up and have to retype it. Lot of flaws in the qwerty keyboard style :D Oh and the katakana when you have to do things like ティ or フェ you need to press "L" to make the katakana イ/エ small. This is way easyer with the flip keyboard. And these are just a few things I learned by experience typing japanese...
It works for SOME Japanese people , trust me lol. I’ve been texting one in Tokyo and we both send each other long ass Harry Potter paragraphs depending on the topic
日本人です。外国人の友達のために分かりやすく説明しているビデオを探していたので、これを見つけて驚きました。 私の友達は、私がフリックキーボードを使ってるところを見ていつもびっくりしてます笑 あと、最近あんまり顔文字を使う人はいないかも。共通の絵文字が普及する前にメールやインターネットで流行った古い文化だから。 とにかく、とても面白かったです！ LINE関係の話でいうと、「How to end the conversation in Japanese with text chat(Especially on LINE)」を友達と議論していたので、それを海外からの視点で解説してほしいです！
@@lazyfluency holy moly, based reply 😎😎💪💪💪 Also I realised your whole vide is exactly same as using regular whatsapp. The rules you set up is something so not talked about I never realised how out of the loop i was when I was even a little younger. Ending texts with an emoji, using stickers more, checking the message but only opening it when you're sure to reply, this is basically a cheat sheet for any newcomer human 👽👽
4:48 After finding out about Japanese flick input, I was so impressed with it that I installed a third-party flick keyboard for English called MessagEase. I can now personally attest that flick input is truly optimal, and I can type faster on a phone now than I ever could before, with just a little practice... ...Problem is that this only applies when I'm texting in English. My Japanese flick input typing speed is still around 0 WPM. にょろーん
haha, that sounds interesting. The way everything works in Japanese seems to make a lot of sense given how spelling is so consistent and most sounds come in pairs. Is MessageEase like the steno machine of phone typing? Yeah... there is some small part of me that is like...hmm... maybe its worth learning how to use the flick keyboard... And then the pragmatic part of me is like, I'm not slow at typing in Japanese in the first place and I'm not entering some competiton, so what is the point, haha. Also there is the benefit of being able to use the same key board for all languages. Especially so when you want to type romaji in Japanese (which qwerty is made for).
@@lazyfluency I'd say that MessagEase is a lot easier than stenotyping (not that I can stenotype). The tapped letters are the nine most frequently used, and the flicked letters are all bunched together in the middle. Japanese flick input on the other hand probably would've been easy for me if I'd had the gojuuon beaten into me since childhood, but in this timeline where that didn't happen... it's hard enough to think of れ as "ninth row, fourth column", let alone translate that to "third row, third column, then swipe right". --Incidentally, MessagEase did create its own version of the Japanese flick keyboard, but that layout also frankly looks like an absolute pain to learn. If MessagEase made a romaji-to-kana/kanji keyboard, then I'd be all over that, but alas, they have not. PS: At least for me, input methods and keyboard layouts can be pretty interesting or fun to learn to use, to learn about, or even to design, even if there's no real point to any of it. Useless skills and knowledge is the spice of life!
@@ashlaskash hmm, I'll have to look into MessagEase as its hard to imagine. Honestly I suck at any and every keyboard tbh. Despite majoring in CS (and Japanese), I still have a slow ass typing speed for what I should have (60-70 WPM). I assume that not thinking of れ as two characters put together helps a lot... But as a native English speaker... yeah, that's never going to happen. I'm all for learning impractical things, haha. Japanese is hard enough as it is though, so I take the easy approach wherever possible.
I would like to add that MessagEase has since I posted this comment ensh*ttified, so I've moved on to a free and open-source clone of it called ThumbKey.
When he mentioned the 笑 and w. I laughed out loud because indeed I've used it because I was chronically (not that much anymore) in a Japanese fandom (utaites). the habit stayed and now I do the "(laugh)" sometimes. funny stuff www
Honestly, same, kinda. When it’s debates, I actually write the longest paragraphs, but even normally, I write like…3-7 sentence paragraphs with attempts to separate them with a line break or two.
ive been texting in japanese for about 2 years, seeing you list off every habit ive made in the last couple years has been fun, i didnt mean to do it but i started using the duck emoji a lot when i met my girlfriend and its become my trademark emoji, we also spam stamps at eachother
I’ve been studying Japanese sporadically for about a year now, and visited Japan 10 months ago. This video was pushed to me at the perfect time, my Japanese is finally hitting a turning point where I can use the flick keyboard, but had no idea on the etiquette. Thankfully as a chronically online woman, most of this etiquette comes naturally 😂
i am absolutely eating up your every lessons/advice video. I low the formating, condensed yet detailied. THANK YOUhhh for sharing your knowledge/experience on these subjects!!!
maybe that explains why people always think i'm condescending whenever i'm being genuine... i mean, genuine 😇 idk, putting that particular emoji there feels worse somehow.. makes it feel more like i'm virtue signaling 😭
Norwegian here. I got introduced to kaomoji and Japanese texting back in 2003, through playing ffxi, since the servers were global. We'd often play with JP players. Thank goodness for the auto translate feature in the game ୧(＾ 〰 ＾)୨
I got banned on Line for no apparent reason. Once I got unbanned after 8 weeks, I logged back in and got instantly banned again for no reason. I had no chats or groups. Support didn't tell me why I was banned, and they wouldn't delete my account.
In my opinion, flick version really is the best, i got used to it pretty fast once i decided to totally stop using qwerty, i can type much faster on flick than qwerty, also just a little thing but i dont like to press N letter twice to get ん, id much rather just swipe up, i suggest everybody to at least try only flick version for like a week, you get used to it fast depending how much you write ALSO i like the kaomoji button there
I cannot emphasize how much I agree. As soon as I learnt to use the flick keyboard I immediately abandoned QWERTY and never came back. It just feels cumbersome for typing Japanese
really! at first i was super confused by flick but then when i figured out how it was organized (each of the little boxes are characters that share the same starting sound(kinda) and each ending sound is in one specific direction) it became 10x easier and now i cant imagine using qwerty when typing japanese
Absolutely loved this video! It's so refreshing to find content that's both informative and entertaining from a native Japanese speaker. Speaking of learning, if anyone's interested in diving deeper into Japanese, I've been using apps like Ling and other online resource such as NHK Japanese to expand my knowledge. They've been incredibly helpful in making learning accessible and fun but not enough to understand the Japanese texting culture so this is great. Keep up the great work with these videos-I'm already looking forward to the next one!
I actually love the flick keyboard, and it's the only way I type in Japanese on my phone! I've actually been looking for one in the same style for western languages, a kind of superpowered T9 from olden days mobile phones.
@@lazyfluencyYou and a couple of Japanese people when we were in Japan! They watched me type and seemed genuinely impressed. And not just in a 日本語上手 way. I don’t think they had seen tourists type that fast before.
I actually recently participated in an escape room in Japanese where a large part of the game was about typing an answer out on a tablet. I am obviously comfortable, typing in Japanese.... but not with a flick keyboard. Without a Japanese friend there that experience would have been 5× more difficult, haha.
I just used the flick by default and when going to japan for a vacation this year someone got impressed and was like "wow, you're typing like a real Japanese person" and I honestly got confused. I think anyone can learn to use the flick keyboard pretty smoothly in a short period of time but this is up to preference of course. I only studied Japanese formally for just under 2 months (5 years ago) and she actually had her minor in Japanese (She went to school in china) so I was surprised that she only used qwerty.
@@lazyfluency I think when I first added they keyboard it gave me the options and I was curious about the 3x3 keyboard and just stuck to it. I added the qwerty one as a backup but ended up maybe using it less than 10 times so far for when I couldn't figure out how to spell certain kana compositions
I've been using flick from the start. I think it's super intuitive, and it's kinda fun😂 All あ kana like か,さ,た are one click. For any い sounds (Like き,し,ち) Flick left. For う flick up. For え flick right. For お flick down. (Oops I literally wrote this before watching you explain in the video lol)
The flick keyboard is SO much easier, IDK what you're talking about. I barely know any Japanese, but, as soon as I understood how the flick system worked, it became WAY faster and more intuitive than the other options.
Very interesting video! Also FYI, texting in Taiwan is very similar to Japan. Many of the “rules” you stated also work when texting using Traditional Chinese among Taiwanese people. In Taiwan, LINE is also the most popular messaging app. (Though the younger generation are drifting to places like IG and other SNS for sure.)
The most interesting thing about this is that I could see english learners having a long line of complaints as well. In that, it is so interesting to see the iceberg of learning a language, especially that names will be difficult in most every language. While not everyone may be able to relate, I had to learn latin and greek to learn more about english, and while it had its pros, there were many cons as well. I wouldn't at all be surprised if there were kanji tests in Japan the way there are spelling tests in English.
I thought I mastered everything on my own and I figured it out on my own while working there for 3 years, but I realized there's more! Glad I found your video. pretty helpful and entertaining!
I was introduced to LINE some years ago through hearing about Cookie Run and shortly after found some LINE games. For the longest time I've only ever used LINE for the I Love Coffee game, but I imagine if I was to move to Japan, that would quickly change lol. This is pretty neat. I also love how Japanese keyboards on the phone include a kaomoji button of some sort.
Half width text is usually to ass an additional layer of sounding goofy. You don't use it with randos or to ask a serious question, you use it to be a clown. Katakana can be used without being a clown but not half width katakana.
I'm not a japanese speaker yet I sometimes find myself browsing thru the jp side of the web, and when I see people writing with the half width katakana I usually interpret it as them saying it under their breath, or saying something they know is embarrassing or controversial. I occasionally see it used alongside (ry which to my understanding is like ending your sentence with a [REDACTED] or even a [GUNSHOTS] when you know it's something that can stir up drama. It always makes me think that if they typed something they think will cause a commotion or that they're embarrassed of, why not just refrain from posting it at all?
this videoo was PERFECT! I cannot express to you how much this video made me understand a lot of things that I've been yearning to learn. You're so underrated!!
I'm doing japanese duolingo for like a year now and the flick keyboard is not really difficult. I got used to it and i can type pretty fast now. It's so fun.
Line was very popular circa 2010-2018 ish in my country especially for children to young adults. But eventually we all grow up and migrated to whatsapp because in the business world nobody uses Line. I miss spamming line stickers on the group chat.
The flick keyboard is hands down the best! I started learning and texting in Japanese 4, nearly 5 years ago and I can type faster in Japanese on the click keyboard than I can on the qwerty keyboard in English!
Same here! I tried it out for fun to make writing messages more 'authentic' and now I can't really go back. It really does become easier than the rest of the methods after your hands memorize the positions of the keys.
I think it's pretty cool that emojis are more common in Japanese communication, because I use emojis all the time (any form) , though I would get teased where I live haha
This is super helpful! I did start using a querty keyboard, but wondered if it would hinder my learning as it's a lot less immersion than trying to actually search out the hiragana in the right category. But it's certainly easier to use english phonetics!
I know you were joking, but just to clarify, the texting habits I talk about are pretty much exclusive to Line communication. On Japanese Twitter/TH-cam you will def spot periods, lol.
maybe its just me but this is already how i text with my japanese friends lmao also cant believe you left out 爆笑 from the lol section 😂 also i use flick input and everyone (including my japanese friends) is confused how i type faster than japanese people
proud to say the keyboard i downloaded a couple years ago on my phone and use today is perfectly built for texting in japanese and accordingly to the proper etiquette
Flick method is superior! I had it on my docomo phone in the early 2010s (though back then you had to push physical buttons and it felt faster than it does now with iPhone keyboards) and my Japanese friends would always say that I was a really fast texter 😅
The thing that anoys me with the querty keyboard is that it doesnt have an azerty verssion and I hate that, I always use azerty keyboards everywhere and its like I gotta learn how to type again when I touch a qwerty keyboard
the glick keyboard really isn't thst hard to get used to. I've been using it for over a year and I like it a lot and I can type much faster than qwerty with less misstypes because there's less keys and thus more space per key
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Biblical kaomoji
My example message to the thing:
あ テトくん！ ご飯はおいしい！😋
I fucking love kaomoji so much, they are the ultimate form of communication
(ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*.✧
Spelling bee in Japan: “Hajime. Ha, Ji, Me. Hajime.” (Crowd cheers)
Spelling bee is a very american thing… probably because spelling a word is a miracle with the state of public schools in the richest country on earth.
@@benjaminbaer5485it's not a thing in modern America now that our education sucks. Back when our schools didn't fucking blow it was just a weird bit of American smugness
@@benjaminbaer5485 @TheGreatDanish I understand that shitting on America is in this season (I'm not an American btw), but the cause of spelling bee's existence is much more simple and non-political: English is a non-phonetic language.
@@benjaminbaer5485 lol
@@benjaminbaer5485yeah I bet you can’t spell Floccinaucinihilipilification out loud
Im feeling like an artifical inteligence trying to learn how to communicate with people
Comment Of The Day.
You just might be. I believe the term is NPC lol
@@ironhell813 well i am indeed
Well, at least you are not being called an AI compared to me.
Also, yes, I am indeed an artificial Intelligence Node of C.A.S.S.
Y’all are just NPCs 😂
There's an AI on Line called りんな you can use her to practice. She uses a lot of texting slang.
this is a 9 month old comment at this point, but I've been struggling to add りんな as a friend... I can open her official page through the app, but clicking "add friend" doesnt work, it just doesnt register, and i cant find user ID or something to add her through it... any thoughts?
@@oj5707 Do you have a japanese sim card and phone number? If not then I think you're out of luck. I pretty much cant do anything with line due to my foreign sim and number.
Thanks for this comment man, I think I’m gonna use her to practice my Japanese conversation skills although it feels kinda lonely talking to an AI
@@maiy8786 nope... that so sad! I was really looking forward to it cuz it seemed really good for texting.... guess I'll have to settler with real people www
@@maiy8786i have a foreign sim and number, and i can add her just fine
are you sitting on a yoga ball
Everytime he move he bounces
You have just dedicated MY broken attention span for the entirety of this video to figuring out that exact question.
@@ShadowRaven4287maybe if you didn't tell yourself that's who you are you wouldn't have that issue
@@st20332 me after telling myself who I am:hello everybody my name is Markiplier
@@eye1013 fire reply by eye1013 you cooked them
When I started to learn Japanese I made myself use the flick keyboard early on and now I'm pretty fast at it. It's so simple that most people could learn it as fast as they learned hiragana.
*hi five*
Given that I suck at using a qwerty keyboard (on mobile/desktop) despite having a CS background, I have massive doubts that my flick keyboard attempts would pay off if I stuck with them, haha. With that, impressive work 🫡
I didn't know you could use qwerty until this video, and I've been using the flicking one all this time. The key is on using the suggested words at the top
@@Mikelaxo Same, and i'm gonna keep using it, because i'm used to using an AZERTY Keyboard
Until this video I didn’t even know you could flick it and I wasn’t about to start punching my screen like an ancient flip phone keyboard (now I’ll try it)
@@murderoftrees Flicking takes a LONG time to get used to. I tried using it, and gave up after a week or so. Qwerty suits me better lol, because I'm used to that
“Which keyboard should you use? QWERTY. You’re going to use the QWERTY keyboard.”
I literally laughed out loud 🤣🤣🤣
This is very grass like the kids say
Why would you ever use the qwerty keyboard when the regular hiragana keyboard is way more logical for japanese writing?
@@ThalonRamacornbecause almost all people would be faster at typing using the qwerty keyboard because we use it all the time.
@@nightventura I vastly prefer the flick keyboard because after using it occasionally for about a year I am now way faster with it than with the qwerty keyboard. It's so simple, intuitive and efficient for typing Japanese. I can now type Japanese faster than English text.
@@nightventura I dont know about this to be honest. If you know how the flip keyboard works it makes logical structural sense. qwerty doesnt have a logical structure, its just random letters.
Also a lot of japanese words are just weird with latin alphabet. For example びょ is bYO ぎょ is Gyo, so why is しょ "sho" and not "shyo"? Also if you want an ん you need to wite "nn", which can make a lot of typos if you forget about it. For example 反応(はんのう) I need to press "n" 3 times, but if I write fast, I might mess it up and have to retype it.
Lot of flaws in the qwerty keyboard style :D
Oh and the katakana when you have to do things like ティ or フェ you need to press "L" to make the katakana イ/エ small. This is way easyer with the flip keyboard.
And these are just a few things I learned by experience typing japanese...
I was wondering why I see "wwwww" a lot online and got the vibe that it had something to do with "lol", thanks for clarifying
Warau wwwww
Jajajajajaja
555555555555
sjsjssjjsjssjjssjsjsjjs
@@Mizu2023whar?
A great video. If long paragraphs are a no, I'm making zero texting friends. 草
This video can also be thought of as a PSA, haha.
It works for SOME Japanese people , trust me lol. I’ve been texting one in Tokyo and we both send each other long ass Harry Potter paragraphs depending on the topic
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Love this style ありがとう
Grass
This video needs to be more popular
grass
Touch laugh.
I think u meant bread
www
Grass
wwwwwwww
日本人です。外国人の友達のために分かりやすく説明しているビデオを探していたので、これを見つけて驚きました。
私の友達は、私がフリックキーボードを使ってるところを見ていつもびっくりしてます笑
あと、最近あんまり顔文字を使う人はいないかも。共通の絵文字が普及する前にメールやインターネットで流行った古い文化だから。
とにかく、とても面白かったです！
LINE関係の話でいうと、「How to end the conversation in Japanese with text chat(Especially on LINE)」を友達と議論していたので、それを海外からの視点で解説してほしいです！
役に立ててよかったです！顔文字は確かに絵文字やスタンプみたいに使われていませんね。とはいっても、たまたまLINEで使う人はいるし、オンラインではある程度使われていると思うし、動画に入れることにしました。まあ…それよりも個人的に顔文字を気に入れているから色んな人に使ってほしいという気持ちもありましたけどね笑「会話を終わらせる方法」に関しては「相手を無視すること」は一番流行ってるのかな笑
How you think Japanese
@@RobertPacocha-yu9li the same way we think in english.
guys he used periods, we're screwed (i'm kidding)
@@lazyfluency なんか最近初めて日本語のゲームをやった時 顔文字の方が流行ってると、そう気付いたが······ ガチャゲーだからかな？ふーん··· わかんない。 (´・ω・｀)
why am i watching this i have 0 japanese friends
its for when you make friends!
@@lazyfluency holy moly, based reply 😎😎💪💪💪
Also I realised your whole vide is exactly same as using regular whatsapp. The rules you set up is something so not talked about I never realised how out of the loop i was when I was even a little younger. Ending texts with an emoji, using stickers more, checking the message but only opening it when you're sure to reply, this is basically a cheat sheet for any newcomer human 👽👽
Me neither, TH-cam just recommended this video and here I am
My only japanese friends are on vrchat where I comunicate with headpats and meows, I am also in a situation where line isnt verry useful
Same
4:48 After finding out about Japanese flick input, I was so impressed with it that I installed a third-party flick keyboard for English called MessagEase. I can now personally attest that flick input is truly optimal, and I can type faster on a phone now than I ever could before, with just a little practice...
...Problem is that this only applies when I'm texting in English. My Japanese flick input typing speed is still around 0 WPM.
にょろーん
haha, that sounds interesting. The way everything works in Japanese seems to make a lot of sense given how spelling is so consistent and most sounds come in pairs. Is MessageEase like the steno machine of phone typing? Yeah... there is some small part of me that is like...hmm... maybe its worth learning how to use the flick keyboard... And then the pragmatic part of me is like, I'm not slow at typing in Japanese in the first place and I'm not entering some competiton, so what is the point, haha. Also there is the benefit of being able to use the same key board for all languages. Especially so when you want to type romaji in Japanese (which qwerty is made for).
@@lazyfluency I'd say that MessagEase is a lot easier than stenotyping (not that I can stenotype). The tapped letters are the nine most frequently used, and the flicked letters are all bunched together in the middle. Japanese flick input on the other hand probably would've been easy for me if I'd had the gojuuon beaten into me since childhood, but in this timeline where that didn't happen... it's hard enough to think of れ as "ninth row, fourth column", let alone translate that to "third row, third column, then swipe right".
--Incidentally, MessagEase did create its own version of the Japanese flick keyboard, but that layout also frankly looks like an absolute pain to learn. If MessagEase made a romaji-to-kana/kanji keyboard, then I'd be all over that, but alas, they have not.
PS: At least for me, input methods and keyboard layouts can be pretty interesting or fun to learn to use, to learn about, or even to design, even if there's no real point to any of it. Useless skills and knowledge is the spice of life!
@@ashlaskash hmm, I'll have to look into MessagEase as its hard to imagine. Honestly I suck at any and every keyboard tbh. Despite majoring in CS (and Japanese), I still have a slow ass typing speed for what I should have (60-70 WPM). I assume that not thinking of れ as two characters put together helps a lot... But as a native English speaker... yeah, that's never going to happen. I'm all for learning impractical things, haha. Japanese is hard enough as it is though, so I take the easy approach wherever possible.
いかにもにょろんにょろんで御座る く(｀･ω･´)
I would like to add that MessagEase has since I posted this comment ensh*ttified, so I've moved on to a free and open-source clone of it called ThumbKey.
When he mentioned the 笑 and w. I laughed out loud because indeed I've used it because I was chronically (not that much anymore) in a Japanese fandom (utaites).
the habit stayed and now I do the "(laugh)" sometimes.
funny stuff www
no bc this is so real
as a current utaite fan (i am a d1 crew member lmao) i use the w all the time wwwww
@@aliteralegg7901 yoo, let's go www.
wwwwwwwww
wow i have not heard someone use the word 'utaite' in like a decade. still means people who cover vocaloid songs, right???
@@ChakkyCharizard yep, There's still a large fandom. It's more silent since the subtitles on TH-cam kinda died.
I literally write in novels so no wonder I can’t retain Japanese texting friends 😭
Honestly, same, kinda. When it’s debates, I actually write the longest paragraphs, but even normally, I write like…3-7 sentence paragraphs with attempts to separate them with a line break or two.
I have met novel writing Japanese people as well so they are out there!
tldr
ive been texting in japanese for about 2 years, seeing you list off every habit ive made in the last couple years has been fun, i didnt mean to do it but i started using the duck emoji a lot when i met my girlfriend and its become my trademark emoji, we also spam stamps at eachother
haha, glad to hear it!
oh wow i didnt know that needy streamer overload was accurate
I’ve been studying Japanese sporadically for about a year now, and visited Japan 10 months ago. This video was pushed to me at the perfect time, my Japanese is finally hitting a turning point where I can use the flick keyboard, but had no idea on the etiquette. Thankfully as a chronically online woman, most of this etiquette comes naturally 😂
The first time I encountered the flick keyboard I was confused for a full two minutes and then realized what I was looking at and then it was だいじょうぶ.
i am absolutely eating up your every lessons/advice video. I low the formating, condensed yet detailied. THANK YOUhhh for sharing your knowledge/experience on these subjects!!!
no prob!!
I was watching to learn some hidden relation between "konnichiwa" and the knee in the stomach stamp.
The message is use stamps to say hi instead of こんにちは！
@@lazyfluency Thanks for responding. So, is there a reason behind it or did people just find it funny and it became popular?
I think it’s getting a knee in the head actually…
I needed this yesterday! Texting with periods, no emojis in paragraph form is texting death wish 💀
maybe that explains why people always think i'm condescending whenever i'm being genuine...
i mean, genuine 😇
idk, putting that particular emoji there feels worse somehow.. makes it feel more like i'm virtue signaling 😭
@@12DAMDOLOL
@@12DAMDO for me I use that emoji only when I'm being mischievous or did something mischievous xD
so THATS why the new japanese kid in my class hates me... interesting.
The whole point of LINE is to use stamps. It is common sense. LINE is super popular in Thailand.
Norwegian here. I got introduced to kaomoji and Japanese texting back in 2003, through playing ffxi, since the servers were global. We'd often play with JP players. Thank goodness for the auto translate feature in the game ୧(＾ 〰 ＾)୨
I got banned on Line for no apparent reason. Once I got unbanned after 8 weeks, I logged back in and got instantly banned again for no reason. I had no chats or groups. Support didn't tell me why I was banned, and they wouldn't delete my account.
In my opinion, flick version really is the best, i got used to it pretty fast once i decided to totally stop using qwerty, i can type much faster on flick than qwerty, also just a little thing but i dont like to press N letter twice to get ん, id much rather just swipe up, i suggest everybody to at least try only flick version for like a week, you get used to it fast depending how much you write
ALSO i like the kaomoji button there
There has been a suprising amount of flick support, I might have to give it another shot, haha.
I'm so slow with qwertz when I'm on the phone, even though on a physical keyboard I'm very fast, so I might as well try out flicking.
I cannot emphasize how much I agree. As soon as I learnt to use the flick keyboard I immediately abandoned QWERTY and never came back. It just feels cumbersome for typing Japanese
really! at first i was super confused by flick but then when i figured out how it was organized (each of the little boxes are characters that share the same starting sound(kinda) and each ending sound is in one specific direction) it became 10x easier and now i cant imagine using qwerty when typing japanese
I got "lazy fingers" and don't like swiping, so I stick to furiously tapping the keyboard, mainly because I grew up with flip phones LOL
japanese culture has a strong influence on internet culture in a big fan
so what ur telling me is that half characters are like the mocking spongebob meme
OMFG EMOJI IS JAPANESE THE WHOLE TIME I LEARNED 文字 AND 絵 SEPARATELY BUT NEVER THOUGHT TO PUT THEM TOGETHER AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
hahah
Absolutely loved this video! It's so refreshing to find content that's both informative and entertaining from a native Japanese speaker. Speaking of learning, if anyone's interested in diving deeper into Japanese, I've been using apps like Ling and other online resource such as NHK Japanese to expand my knowledge. They've been incredibly helpful in making learning accessible and fun but not enough to understand the Japanese texting culture so this is great. Keep up the great work with these videos-I'm already looking forward to the next one!
Next video will be coming soonish!
I actually love the flick keyboard, and it's the only way I type in Japanese on my phone! I've actually been looking for one in the same style for western languages, a kind of superpowered T9 from olden days mobile phones.
Consider me officially impressed, haha.
@@lazyfluencyYou and a couple of Japanese people when we were in Japan! They watched me type and seemed genuinely impressed. And not just in a 日本語上手 way. I don’t think they had seen tourists type that fast before.
I actually recently participated in an escape room in Japanese where a large part of the game was about typing an answer out on a tablet. I am obviously comfortable, typing in Japanese.... but not with a flick keyboard. Without a Japanese friend there that experience would have been 5× more difficult, haha.
I just used the flick by default and when going to japan for a vacation this year someone got impressed and was like "wow, you're typing like a real Japanese person" and I honestly got confused. I think anyone can learn to use the flick keyboard pretty smoothly in a short period of time but this is up to preference of course.
I only studied Japanese formally for just under 2 months (5 years ago) and she actually had her minor in Japanese (She went to school in china) so I was surprised that she only used qwerty.
I don't believe US phones default to flick, which might be why its uncommon
@@lazyfluency I think when I first added they keyboard it gave me the options and I was curious about the 3x3 keyboard and just stuck to it. I added the qwerty one as a backup but ended up maybe using it less than 10 times so far for when I couldn't figure out how to spell certain kana compositions
The Line thing is reflected in most phone contracts too. I literally cannot send texts, but I have data and the use of line is free.
this is the real language learning shit we need! hell yeah! staying on this channel, tysm
im enjoying your videos! the kaomoji tip was nice
11:35 めちゃめちゃかわいい 😻
learning the japanese swipe keyboard actually helped me learn the alphabet, because i could always find the letter i needed by intuition
I've been using flick from the start. I think it's super intuitive, and it's kinda fun😂
All あ kana like か,さ,た are one click.
For any い sounds (Like き,し,ち)
Flick left. For う flick up. For え flick right. For お flick down.
(Oops I literally wrote this before watching you explain in the video lol)
Why this channel don't have tons of subscribers already whaaaatt
草の上は「草越えて森」
その上は「森越えてモーリーファンタジー」
The flick keyboard is SO much easier, IDK what you're talking about. I barely know any Japanese, but, as soon as I understood how the flick system worked, it became WAY faster and more intuitive than the other options.
0:06
My dumbass immediately began getting Megalovania flashbacks
**insert get dunked on sans line sticker**
Very interesting video!
Also FYI, texting in Taiwan is very similar to Japan. Many of the “rules” you stated also work when texting using Traditional Chinese among Taiwanese people. In Taiwan, LINE is also the most popular messaging app. (Though the younger generation are drifting to places like IG and other SNS for sure.)
The most interesting thing about this is that I could see english learners having a long line of complaints as well. In that, it is so interesting to see the iceberg of learning a language, especially that names will be difficult in most every language. While not everyone may be able to relate, I had to learn latin and greek to learn more about english, and while it had its pros, there were many cons as well. I wouldn't at all be surprised if there were kanji tests in Japan the way there are spelling tests in English.
I remember watching my mom text my family and she was writing a whole paragraph
I thought I mastered everything on my own and I figured it out on my own while working there for 3 years, but I realized there's more! Glad I found your video. pretty helpful and entertaining!
I was introduced to LINE some years ago through hearing about Cookie Run and shortly after found some LINE games. For the longest time I've only ever used LINE for the I Love Coffee game, but I imagine if I was to move to Japan, that would quickly change lol. This is pretty neat. I also love how Japanese keyboards on the phone include a kaomoji button of some sort.
haha, getting line for a game is a first. But yes it is a messenger app😂
COOKIE RUN MENTIONED 🔥🏃🍪
The vertical message is insane, how do they get to create the vertical message with having normal coherent normal convo?
This really helped my Japanese typing! I'm new at Japanese, I may be not fluent but I can talk a little. そう… ありがとう〜！
Thanks Joey and Ayami 。Now we know how make Japanese boys and girls knees weak through line stickers 😈
Yessssss you can buy any stickers you like on Line sticker shop to either intimidate or please people 😏-Ayami
めっちゃおもろかったよ！^ ^
(人´∀`).☆.｡.:*ありがとぉ☆彡(*´ω`*人)
@@lazyfluency 俺もそうと思う (^_^)
確かに読点のことが驚いたけれど、まあ··· それは別の話かな······
Half width text is usually to ass an additional layer of sounding goofy. You don't use it with randos or to ask a serious question, you use it to be a clown. Katakana can be used without being a clown but not half width katakana.
100%
1:18 tried! line is not supported in my country! what a shame!!!
It's not supported in mine as well. Soooo, I just lied about my country, using VPN and a spare google account and downloaded it anyway
LINE mostly only available limited in Asia nowadays. Especially East and Southeast Asia 🤔
I'm not a japanese speaker yet I sometimes find myself browsing thru the jp side of the web, and when I see people writing with the half width katakana I usually interpret it as them saying it under their breath, or saying something they know is embarrassing or controversial. I occasionally see it used alongside (ry which to my understanding is like ending your sentence with a [REDACTED] or even a [GUNSHOTS] when you know it's something that can stir up drama.
It always makes me think that if they typed something they think will cause a commotion or that they're embarrassed of, why not just refrain from posting it at all?
Commenting before watching the video. Died at Megalovania text noise. Continuing on.
That was actually just a coincidence... or was it??? 🤔
Lmao
This was the longest ad I've watched so far
Wait what was this an ad for? lol. Also check out my Book Off vid for a longer ad!
@@lazyfluency This is an ad for Line and Japan duh!! And studying Japanese duhhhh!!
What a shill omg
this videoo was PERFECT! I cannot express to you how much this video made me understand a lot of things that I've been yearning to learn.
You're so underrated!!
Glad it helped!
6:40 🤣 using periods in any language in my opinion just feels too formal and rude
i will not be using the qwerty keyboard, I'm used to the flick. i type slow either way :D
I'm doing japanese duolingo for like a year now and the flick keyboard is not really difficult. I got used to it and i can type pretty fast now. It's so fun.
Line was very popular circa 2010-2018 ish in my country especially for children to young adults. But eventually we all grow up and migrated to whatsapp because in the business world nobody uses Line. I miss spamming line stickers on the group chat.
I don’t need line then
For Japan you do!
The flick keyboard is hands down the best!
I started learning and texting in Japanese 4, nearly 5 years ago and I can type faster in Japanese on the click keyboard than I can on the qwerty keyboard in English!
Same here! I tried it out for fun to make writing messages more 'authentic' and now I can't really go back. It really does become easier than the rest of the methods after your hands memorize the positions of the keys.
I learned that wwwww means laughing from, of all things, a SummoningSalt video 💀
I think it's pretty cool that emojis are more common in Japanese communication, because I use emojis all the time (any form) , though I would get teased where I live haha
Wow, this was amazingly helpful and explains so much about my interactions with my Japanese friends on LINE 😅 Thank you 🤗
Genious guide, tyty you both
Ten billion times easier than texting like a Brazilian person.
The editing here is immaculate!
日本語を最近ん勉強しているだから、この動画は面白すぎてよー😅
冗談ぽく色々説明してたけど、情報は事実に基づいてます。ご心配なく！
-ジョーイ
@@lazyfluency大丈夫!この素敵な動画を作ることがありがとうございます!
@@lazyfluency マジで読点のこと驚いたわ､ 俺｡
0:06 this is the exact moment we hear the first four notes of megalovania. Help, I cant unhear it.
I can't hear it😰
Haha I was using the flick keyboard and it was such a pain. It was such a relief when I finally caved and just used qwerty.
This is super helpful! I did start using a querty keyboard, but wondered if it would hinder my learning as it's a lot less immersion than trying to actually search out the hiragana in the right category. But it's certainly easier to use english phonetics!
How did I not know you can view a convo without it turning into read
Man... Being a Filipino sure does immediately bypass the basic level huh
Thank you for the video! It was very informative 🧐
sorry man i forgot the (づ๑•ᴗ•๑)づ♡ 😅
Feels like if one were to learn this, you'd be too old for this kind of texting when/if you eventually do
Who knows how we will be communicating in the future. But just to clarify, people in their 30s text in this way as well.
Nah das crazy 🤯
Also you just used two period marks 🤬
www
I know you were joking, but just to clarify, the texting habits I talk about are pretty much exclusive to Line communication. On Japanese Twitter/TH-cam you will def spot periods, lol.
@@lazyfluency Cool 😎🥶
maybe its just me but this is already how i text with my japanese friends lmao
also cant believe you left out 爆笑 from the lol section 😂
also i use flick input and everyone (including my japanese friends) is confused how i type faster than japanese people
6:09 lmao, I actually leaned towards the screen 😂😂😂😂
草 in japanese: 😂😂😂
草 in chinese: 💀💀💀
What is this sorcery?
ku means cry and sa means kill 😭😭😭
@@EphemeralPseudonym no. "Cao" ("grass") in chinese has the same reading as "to fck"
@@EphemeralPseudonym No. TH-cam deleted my comment with explanation, your is not right
@@EphemeralPseudonym 草 is often being used instead of 肏 for censorhip reasons
proud to say the keyboard i downloaded a couple years ago on my phone and use today is perfectly built for texting in japanese and accordingly to the proper etiquette
Flick method is superior! I had it on my docomo phone in the early 2010s (though back then you had to push physical buttons and it felt faster than it does now with iPhone keyboards) and my Japanese friends would always say that I was a really fast texter 😅
I remember I changed my keyboard to japanese once and it was painful to find out how to use it and how to change it back lol
Nice video, i learnt something new today)
Thanks for reinforcing my confidence with this video, because I already knew all the information in it lol
1:02 thats not 70.... wait!
My biggest beef with Line is how it refuses to show me notifications
I put the flick one on my keyboard because i didnt know there was another option and learned it just playing around with it. Didn't find it hard.
The thing that anoys me with the querty keyboard is that it doesnt have an azerty verssion and I hate that, I always use azerty keyboards everywhere and its like I gotta learn how to type again when I touch a qwerty keyboard
I FINALLY KNOW WHAT THE w IS IN JAPANESE COMMENTS!!! that has been eating my brain for a long time since i couldn't find translations anywhere
Happy I could help!
I prefer to use the AZERTY keyboard for me even in English because that is the keyboard we have in French
As a Thai person, I already have Line.
I’m always two steps ahead. /ref
the glick keyboard really isn't thst hard to get used to. I've been using it for over a year and I like it a lot and I can type much faster than qwerty with less misstypes because there's less keys and thus more space per key
Why is your notification sound at the beginning of the video the first 4 notes to Megalovania
everyone keeps saying that, lol. Complete coincidence, haha
Flick gave me a direction for each vowel base and basically formed my understanding of all of the kana. I can't go back. TwT
Flick and toggle reminds me of old mobile phones with 12+ buttons, and because I used to it it was easy for me to use flick and toggle methods
And it's comfortable because of bigger hitbox.
Fun video!! I knew some stuff, but glad to know more ❤❤. Thank youuuu
As someone who has had varying success texting w/ Japanese girls over the last year, I find that everything in this video is accurate and helpful.
haha, happy to hear that!
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I like how you kinda wobble every time you want to pass some kind of --- (or even ~) sensation. I love it haha
Flick is easier if you don’t want to type with both hands
“download line!!” i’ve had line for over 10 years :)