A million years ago I made a soldered one piece box with a wired and hinged lid in my third module at aero engineering apprenticeship training. It was watertight!! Very satisfying. Thank you for sharing and reminding me of this useful craft.
Some guesses, based on using a spot-welder some: Alignment and overall shape of the tips? Is the metal you are welding clean? If it’s plated - did you remove the zinc or other plating? Is the weld time, clamping force, and weld-current set right? Is it consistent from weld to weld? (This last is sufficiently critical that I am thinking to use a precise timer for when I get *my* spot-welder set up!)
Nice. We have exactly the same machines in our workshop, which makes me wonder why the hell I just spent the day welding the sides on - when I could've folded the whole damn thing out of one piece! x 3 rain-heads !!
If it was this box? I wouldn’t be able to make it in one piece, I would most likely go to the standard hand brake or the box and pan brake and make it in 3 pieces.
At 4min. that is a great way to crush your safe edge. To do a nice looking job do the over lap and side folds under the clamp of pan break, pinching side and laps as look at 5:50 min bottom right corner where crushed.
I guess there are a few ways of making a cover or top, it all depends on what a person wants for looks. You could fabricate a top using the same layout as in the video using different dimensions, you could also use a lockformer, it could be welded corners, or one of my favourites for exterior appearance is the coffin lock. If your curious what a coffin lock looks like check out my video Various Locks and Seam @ 9:57 seconds into the vid. I hope this can help you, and who knows, someone may see your question and reply with a better suggestion.
@@darrenconway8117 true Darren, it’s great to have the tools and equipment and without out them it can be difficult but not impossible, one may need to improvise, if there’s a will there’s way. Just saying. Some may look at the video and realize that’s what the pattern would look like,,,,who knows, but he or she would like to fabricate a small light gage aluminium/ copper/ tin plate/ plastic/ cardboard box by hand, using a square edge to form the bends and rivets to hold everything together, If it’s plastic they would obviously need to add heat to make the bend.
I make these all the time. But i hate when its taller than four inches bc it hits the top of the box and pan brake bc the one we have is only 4 inches deep. On aluminum this is pretty much how u have to do them bc the Pittsburgh machine hates aluminum and basically just tears the edge like ripping a piece of paper. So sometimes ill just make it in 3 pieces a U shape with 2 caps if i cant get it in the finger brake
@@sheetmetalwork haha i know right? But i really like that piece of equipment never seen that before. Right now im doing architectural sheet metal and we have a roper whitney electric brake that has fingers for the back gage and they move to where you want them. You basically program where you want them to go in the computer, and how many degrees you want thebending leaf to bend it, and it does it all for you. You can program up to 100 bends at a time its really cool. Ive worked with some cool equipment in alot of shops. The last duct shop i worked in was really high production. They had a whisper lock where when you put straight duct together all u have to do is tack the Pittsburgh down so it holds, then u put the piece in the machine by its corners, fingers come down clmp the corners, wheel the Pittsburgh down for you, and releases it, then next to that we had a corner machine where u just slide the piece over, put the piece in by its corners again, it clamps it, then the machine smacks the TDC corners init for you. Its really cool lol
I followed your video and made one that is 5”D 3”W 3”H 3/8 safety hem 3/8 corner lap I used a ruler, flat head screwdriver 12” bar fold and some linesman’s pliers. Thanks! It will be a small garden box for a friend.
Just happened upon this video, and have to say that I am seriously jealous of anyone who has all the toys (mine were stolen in a storage locker heist). This box is something I would have had to make by hand . . . with vice-gripped angle iron, and a hammer and dolly - and I have made a few over the years this way.
The way you bent the first long 90 degree bend. You pinch the hem, making a crease. If this was decorative it would be rejected. Either bend with the material out not pinching the hem or use a piece of metal as thick or thicker to space the upper beam up. For decorative pieces or gutter collection boxes I will fab a solder pocket on 2 sides and then bend caps to fit in. Of course this only works on materials that can be soldered.
@@bradywilliams2666 I started the trade back in 84 👦🏻, 18 years with the tools fabricating and installing. The last 20 years 👴🏻I have been lucky enough to get paid trying to help students. You’re right, TH-cam is awesome, it sure would’ve helped me back then . Nice chatting Brady.
I’m not sure Liam, but I do believe you’re correct in saying it may block frequencies. it was simply a quick box, made up for a friend who wanted to keep some stuff together in the bed of his truck.
Try this: Wedge a piece of 2x4 or pipe from a beam or joist in the ceiling, down to the piece of metal that would act as your clamping bar. Your brake needs to be mounted on a sturdy bench or pair of horses for this to work, but it will work.
So, question, for that third and fourth tabs that you fold... How can I do that if I don't have a magnetic bender like in the video? Like, I'm kind of struggling with that.
I’d love to talk to you about producing a couples of different sized boxes like this. If that’s something you’d be interested in, please get back to me. I would great appreciate it.
To be honest, I made this video for a friend of mine who wanted a simple container to throw in the back of his truck for various tools. Had I known the video was going to get this many views, I would have certainly done a better job at fabricating and filming. I used 24 gage Satin coat galvanized or Galvannealed.
The bottom bending bar has a magnet in it, there is a micro switch that activates the magnet only when the bottom bar begins to lift up, and by doing so the removable top bending fingers are magnetized and hold the metal in place during the bending process. I hope this explanation was of help?
I agree with you on waste, and Im sure that many more followers do also. Im sure you know that before fabricating anything the first thing to do is to plan the best and most efficient way of getting a job done. Let’s just say the box or pan needed to be watertight, the dimensions are 46 x 50 with 2 inch sides, this method would save a lot time sealing/welding the bottom. Thanks for taking the time to comment.
@@sheetmetalwork sorry , my words might be sound rude to other people .. I just don't know how to write properly .. but I'm not like that personally when speaking.. anyway for clarification if you are in a fabrication site nothing's really is a waste , cause every cuts might have another purpose
A million years ago I made a soldered one piece box with a wired and hinged lid in my third module at aero engineering apprenticeship training. It was watertight!! Very satisfying. Thank you for sharing and reminding me of this useful craft.
I miss that stuff too.
Your never too old for scale model remote control boat's ect!
Fuel, oil, water, hydraulic tank's, boat hulls and decks ect
Man I miss working with sheet metal, I really liked that. The bending and cutting and brazing and riveting. It was awesome.
Awesome idea for bring a box together. Great video👍
Nice. I did a similar one, drilled holes and used plug welds as I had no access to a spot welder.
The best video ever, short, simple, yet very informative, very educational
Thank you! 😀
Nicely instructed!
Thank you.
Thank you!
Muy buenos videos,aunque en idioma diferente, pero paso a paso bien explicado,me suscribo desde Chile
Thank you sir, that was different to another video I saw but your method of bending the long side first is much better. Cheers
Your welcome 😀
Great video. Explained well.
Thanks,
Love the content
Felicidades amigo, excelente trabajo, se ve de muy buena manufactura, saludos desde México.
Gracias!
Amazing, it's brilliant
Thank you!
So simple yet so satisfying
Excellent skills
I have that spot welder and burns hole in the metal all the time sparks like crazy also.
Some guesses, based on using a spot-welder some:
Alignment and overall shape of the tips?
Is the metal you are welding clean? If it’s plated - did you remove the zinc or other plating?
Is the weld time, clamping force, and weld-current set right? Is it consistent from weld to weld?
(This last is sufficiently critical that I am thinking to use a precise timer for when I get *my* spot-welder set up!)
Muito profissional.
Спасибо!👍 Последние сгибы делались на станке с прижимом на электромагните?🤔
Merci pour votre travail
Bienvenue Super Comptesse! Merci pour le commentaire 🇨🇦❤️
nice job thank u for info😀😀😀😀😀
Parabéns 👏🏼👏🏼 gostaria de saber se essa dobradura de chapas que vc ultilizou no final é magnética?
excellent work! just avoid those fumes from the spot welding at all costs.
Nice. We have exactly the same machines in our workshop, which makes me wonder why the hell I just spent the day welding the sides on - when I could've folded the whole damn thing out of one piece! x 3 rain-heads !!
For some, The downfall would be more scrap/waste?
What kind of metal are you working with? Galv-Neal? It seems pretty dull for just galv. looks great anyway, thank you!
Yes 👍Galv-Neal it is, I often call it Satin coat Galv.
Very nice.. easily understood... thankyou
I’m happy you liked it.
Thank you for posting. What would be done if you didn't have access to the Mag Bender?
If it was this box? I wouldn’t be able to make it in one piece, I would most likely go to the standard hand brake or the box and pan brake and make it in 3 pieces.
At 4min. that is a great way to crush your safe edge. To do a nice looking job do the over lap and side folds under the clamp of pan break, pinching side and laps as look at 5:50 min bottom right corner where crushed.
You’re 100% correct in your observation. Sheet positioning and the bending sequences is so important. 👍
How do you make a metal cover top were the 4 corners are sealed and overlap each other but still look professional?
I guess there are a few ways of making a cover or top, it all depends on what a person wants for looks. You could fabricate a top using the same layout as in the video using different dimensions, you could also use a lockformer, it could be welded corners, or one of my favourites for exterior appearance is the coffin lock. If your curious what a coffin lock looks like check out my video Various Locks and Seam @ 9:57 seconds into the vid. I hope this can help you, and who knows, someone may see your question and reply with a better suggestion.
Cool
The hero here is the Magnabender. Everything else is good but just ordinary. Magnabenders were invented in Australia and they are fantastic tools.
Thanks and I do agree on just ordinary. The intent of the video was made to simply demonstrate machinery in action to new learners.
@@sheetmetalwork Yes, good video, but many have never even heard of the Magnabend machine. Your method is only as easy as it is with one. Just saying.
@@darrenconway8117 true Darren, it’s great to have the tools and equipment and without out them it can be difficult but not impossible, one may need to improvise, if there’s a will there’s way. Just saying. Some may look at the video and realize that’s what the pattern would look like,,,,who knows, but he or she would like to fabricate a small light gage aluminium/ copper/ tin plate/ plastic/ cardboard box by hand, using a square edge to form the bends and rivets to hold everything together, If it’s plastic they would obviously need to add heat to make the bend.
Yep. These are very useful and pretty portable. We have a dedicated shop one and one for field use.
Thank you
Kool, now imagine it's plate like 12 guage or so...then go heavier/thicker
Nice
I make these all the time. But i hate when its taller than four inches bc it hits the top of the box and pan brake bc the one we have is only 4 inches deep. On aluminum this is pretty much how u have to do them bc the Pittsburgh machine hates aluminum and basically just tears the edge like ripping a piece of paper. So sometimes ill just make it in 3 pieces a U shape with 2 caps if i cant get it in the finger brake
LOL, funny how we’re faced with some of the same issues depending on our Shop Tools and Equipment. If there’s a will there’s a way.
@@sheetmetalwork haha i know right? But i really like that piece of equipment never seen that before. Right now im doing architectural sheet metal and we have a roper whitney electric brake that has fingers for the back gage and they move to where you want them. You basically program where you want them to go in the computer, and how many degrees you want thebending leaf to bend it, and it does it all for you. You can program up to 100 bends at a time its really cool. Ive worked with some cool equipment in alot of shops. The last duct shop i worked in was really high production. They had a whisper lock where when you put straight duct together all u have to do is tack the Pittsburgh down so it holds, then u put the piece in the machine by its corners, fingers come down clmp the corners, wheel the Pittsburgh down for you, and releases it, then next to that we had a corner machine where u just slide the piece over, put the piece in by its corners again, it clamps it, then the machine smacks the TDC corners init for you. Its really cool lol
I need one made?
I followed your video and made one that is
5”D
3”W
3”H
3/8 safety hem
3/8 corner lap
I used a ruler, flat head screwdriver 12” bar fold and some linesman’s pliers. Thanks! It will be a small garden box for a friend.
Thanks for commenting, I’m happy to hear that I was able to help out. TH-cam can be very resourcefull.
5:40 where can i buy this machine? also make more geometry tutorials!! ^^
The name Brand of this bender is MagnaBend. I will be working on a geometry tutorial that should be ready mid September. :)
I like this video because there guys hands look like chicken yum yum..
lol lol
#yummyyummyinmytummy
Quick question .. what's the weight of this box with those dimensions? Thanks
24 gage is aprox 1.15 lbs per square foot, therefore this box will be approximately 10lbs.
Serious question why use 2 different benders of the magna bender seems to be capable of doing all the work
You can completely do this project on the Magnanend but not on a Standard Brake. You are limited to how tall the sides can be on a standard brake.
Just happened upon this video, and have to say that I am seriously jealous of anyone who has all the toys (mine were stolen in a storage locker heist). This box is something I would have had to make by hand . . . with vice-gripped angle iron, and a hammer and dolly - and I have made a few over the years this way.
iwas doing this when i was 16
The way you bent the first long 90 degree bend. You pinch the hem, making a crease. If this was decorative it would be rejected. Either bend with the material out not pinching the hem or use a piece of metal as thick or thicker to space the upper beam up. For decorative pieces or gutter collection boxes I will fab a solder pocket on 2 sides and then bend caps to fit in. Of course this only works on materials that can be soldered.
I do agree with you Brady. Great observation, and that only comes with experience. Thanks for the feedback 👍🏻
@@sheetmetalwork Been in construction, sheet metal since 1993. Funny I found myself watching your video.
@@bradywilliams2666 I started the trade back in 84 👦🏻, 18 years with the tools fabricating and installing. The last 20 years 👴🏻I have been lucky enough to get paid trying to help students. You’re right, TH-cam is awesome, it sure would’ve helped me back then . Nice chatting Brady.
doing it very well
Thanks for commenting
Could all this have been done with Stainless Steel? Nice video - thanks
Yes, but the only issue would be is the brake bending capacity, but light gage SS no problem
Thanks for the video. What is the thickness of the metal?
24 gage which is around.030 of an inch.
Does the box block radio frequencies?
I’m not sure Liam, but I do believe you’re correct in saying it may block frequencies.
it was simply a quick box, made up for a friend who wanted to keep some stuff together in the bed of his truck.
Is there a way to make this box with round corners?
There is, but it involves a lot of layout.
Interesting. Could this box be made using only the pan brake? I don't see a magnabend in my near future. Subscribed.
Yes, but depending on how high your sides are, you may need to manipulate the two last bends in order to reach 90 deg.
Try this:
Wedge a piece of 2x4 or pipe from a beam or joist in the ceiling, down to the piece of metal that would act as your clamping bar.
Your brake needs to be mounted on a sturdy bench or pair of horses for this to work, but it will work.
🤝✍
So, question, for that third and fourth tabs that you fold...
How can I do that if I don't have a magnetic bender like in the video?
Like, I'm kind of struggling with that.
It's not really possible
Yum
Super❤❤❤❤❤😊
😊
I need a box made just like this one. How much would it cost?
Can anyone make me ☝️
great
Thanks
Is it use magnetic base, Sir?
Yes it does.
hello , How thick is the metal?
Hello Rodrigo, I used 24g galv which is approximately .027in or .7mm
what gauge is this?
I’m pretty sure it was 24g
Hello. How thick is the sheet?
I used 24 gauge, which is approximately .511mm or .020’’
Qué calibre y de qué material es amigo?
si te entiendo bien me estás preguntando qué calibre y qué tipo de material. Una capa de satén de calibre 24 usada galvanizada 😀
Claro que sí Amigo, muchas gracias, alguna marca y modelo de tijeras que me recomiendes para corte de lámina. Por tu respuesta muchas gracias.
Nice to see the principle but the home workshop doesn’t/ wouldn’t have the kit you use. But the principle and sequence is helpful.
You can cut with shears and bend with plywood.
Nowhere was it stated that anyone would be making this in a home workshop.
@R Cook his point was how to accomplish the task in a home work shop
Best to make a 2 peice box far less wasteage.
Do you mean 3 pieces as I mentioned in the first minute of the video? I do agree that there’s a lot of waste.
I want one box
I’d love to talk to you about producing a couples of different sized boxes like this. If that’s something you’d be interested in, please get back to me. I would great appreciate it.
Perhaps. What size? And Is there anything special you would like to see added?
Good work!!! We also have rich experience in sheet metal fab, we are a strong manufacturer in China, with high quality and competitive price.
Thank you! 🇨🇦😀
Price for one piece
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It would be nice to know the specs of the sheetmetal you used..
To be honest, I made this video for a friend of mine who wanted a simple container to throw in the back of his truck for various tools. Had I known the video was going to get this many views, I would have certainly done a better job at fabricating and filming. I used 24 gage Satin coat galvanized or Galvannealed.
Gauge of sheet?
24g
@@sheetmetalwork thanks
What holds the top die on the last 2 bends?
The bottom bending bar has a magnet in it, there is a micro switch that activates the magnet only when the bottom bar begins to lift up, and by doing so the removable top bending fingers are magnetized and hold the metal in place during the bending process. I hope this explanation was of help?
@@sheetmetalwork Thanks!
Goog
The One Piece is real!
1 box chahiye
يتعذر الاشتراك ولا يوجد جرس-يتعذر التعليق - لا أعلم .
مرحبًا عادل ، لست متأكدًا من سبب عدم قدرتك على الاشتراك ، لكنني سأتحقق من ذلك.
how do you make a box like this? th-cam.com/video/VRUF0XmeSAs/w-d-xo.html
Safety gloves, please
Désolé, mais les gants, Pourquoi?
it's good but it's too much of a waste than making a 3 folds and a lock corner bottom and top
I agree with you on waste, and Im sure that many more followers do also. Im sure you know that before fabricating anything the first thing to do is to plan the best and most efficient way of getting a job done. Let’s just say the box or pan needed to be watertight, the dimensions are 46 x 50 with 2 inch sides, this method would save a lot time sealing/welding the bottom. Thanks for taking the time to comment.
@@sheetmetalwork sorry , my words might be sound rude to other people .. I just don't know how to write properly .. but I'm not like that personally when speaking.. anyway for clarification if you are in a fabrication site nothing's really is a waste , cause every cuts might have another purpose
Six sides to a box, this is a crate.
I guess you missed the crate cover,
I guess you Wested sheet by doing that type of marketing
Yes, great observation! there is more waste. I simply wanted to demonstrate another option for those who want less seams.
04:52 Magnetico?
Lol now do it without all the fancy machinery
I agree, but, If there’s a will there’s a way 🤔….hammer 🔨and sharp bending edge. Gonna more way more work 🥵
সালামুআলাইকুম ভাই আপনার নাম্বারটা দিলে ভাল হয়
wear gloves when handling sheet metal.
Been handling it for nearly 40 years,🤞not one stich yet. But, I did use Ductape on some minor cuts. TBH I do prefer to wear gloves when installing SM.
Aapka number do
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