Siren Loudness: DC Rainmaker explained in his review that the efficacy of the siren (or alarm) was more due to the frequencies used, and the cadence between chirps than pure loudness.
And he went on to test it from the claimed 600 meters and found it easily audible, suggesting in good conditions it could be heard from even farther away.
Easy enough to test out the effectiveness - play some hide and seek in a national park, on a hiking trail, in the woods somewhere. The idea is that rescue would have some GPS coords right? And the alarm gets them the rest of the way?
If the alarm speaker has some water inside the sound will be super low. Water eject doesn’t work properly on that speaker so you have to wait around 12 hours until it dries.
Different perceptions. DC is outdoors often with an ear out for things on trails. Ifixit guy might be used to being indoors, top notch headphones on. I found the siren not only easy to detect at range but the pitch made direction easy to detect.
Its not about loudness. Its about the chirp and the specific sound it makes. Its more distinct especially when you are in the wilderness. Many people have tested it and have proved that it can easily be heard from far away
It was also a terribly dishonest trial of it. As soon as it begins to get louder, as it gets louder over time, he rushes to turn it off and slap a negative opinion on it. Sloppy.
@@MillieMoses Right? It's easily noticable in the video that it gets way louder when the screen turns off, presumably to protect the wearers hearing while the watch is raised near their head. Smh.
For it not to break, like our Guide Writer who expertly removed the glass on his device. Nice work Dominik :) www.ifixit.com/Guide/Opening+Procedure/153357
@@iFixitYourself you need to get someone that has the skills to be able to do this. Anyone can give tools to a intern and say try and open this Apple watch and if the screen breaks blame it on poor design.
@@goiterlanternbase I feel like we've already talked how Apple doesn't want repairable devices, hmmm, not suuure if that's a new thing or not.. hhmmmmm Oh wait.. 10 years ago it was the same just less "gotta break it more to repair it"
I normally fully agree with your assessments, but I think you’ve been a bit unfair to Apple here. It’s a very compact device with a very high level of water resistance. I wouldn’t expect it to be as easy to repair as a phone or laptop. That clearly wasn’t the correct way to remove the screen either. I agree that I wouldn’t wear the watch climbing (I wouldn’t wear any watch climbing) but I think for the vast majority of applications the raised lip will protect the screen. Also, the siren has a distinctive sound and is as good as can be expected from a tiny speaker. Personally, I think this is the best piece of hardware Apple has released in years.
We try to be unbiased though I'm afraid this was my experience with this watch. There's a certain amount of marketing going on here on Apples part that borders on the dishonest and yet at other times they understate the engineering that went into the device just in case they get into trouble (the fine print on the 100m rating is interesting as an example - only guaranteed to a depth of 40m if I'm not mistaken). All in all, I respect your opinion but we've not tried to sell anything or sway any opinions on the device itself. Cracked screens aside, repairing a battery on this device while trying to save an already function screen will be difficult for the average person. Screen replacements on this device need practice to remove intact and it's simply not something people will risk with a screen that's likely to be expensive. -SM
@@iFixitYourself It's guaranteed to 100m, it's just that the depth limit for recreational diving is 40m, so the depth sensor and Oceanic+ app will only work down to that depth, anything more and it stays waterproof, but displays a 'deeper than 40m' message on the watch.
@@iFixitYourself that's only for the dive computer which is only certified for 40m. WR100 funnily does not mean actual 100m, this is the same for other highend watches like the Polar Grit X. It has WR100 but you are not allowed to use it for any diving it all. The AWU is actually the first smart watch at all that is officially certified for SCUBA diving and the inclusion of an acutal diving computer is freakin cool und currently unmatched.
@@iFixitYourself Thank you for your reply and I respect your opinion as well. Maybe we’re coming at this from different angles. I expect a phone or laptop to be user repairable but I actually don’t expect it with a watch. Maybe that’s because I’m coming from using mechanical diving watches which you’d never dream of trying to take apart yourself. As for Apple’s marketing, the only part I disagreed with was the footage of someone climbing as there is no way that wouldn’t destroy any watch. Apart from that I think what you get is pretty much what they advertise.
The siren slowly gets louder and more annoying if you leave it on longer. Most reviewers haven't allowed it to get louder before letting us know how loud it gets lol
i would expect better from ifixit to actually try and properly remove the screen rather than start prying till something breaks it’s ifixit supposed to be a resource for self repair hence “ifix it”
Not only that, but if your screen is broken anyway, replacing it looks easy. Replacing the battery alone looks unlikely, but at least you only have to remove the screen.
They did have a problem early on with their smoothing algorithms that resulted in bad tracks, but even worse distances particularly in the woods or other places with tough satellite reception. My Series 3 now has very good tracks, but still overestimates many distances. I think most of Apples’s recent watches are pretty much spot on. And I don’t think the problem was ever antennas.
Right? DC Rainmaker and The Quantified Scientist are probably the most thorough smartwatch testers on the internet and they gave really high scores for Apple Watch GPS and its sensors for accuracy.
Exactly, I've never had issues with the gps on the 3 Apple watches I've owned. Why do reviewers feel the need to make claims about a device without providing proof?
Also he need to use a heat gun against the glass for a few minutes, to make the glue to get softer and less adhesive, that is standard when removing the glass screen on iPhones.
It’s supposed to be a specific frequency that you only hear it from the distance while still not harming the user that is wearing the watch that is why sometimes you could hear wild animals when they’re miles away, and being next to them don’t sound much different. it is a certain frequency that echoes further than being pure loudness also when you are in the mountains or Forrest there will be wind currents that’ll push the sound to be further away.
"There is a 170 degree danger" What do you want them to do? put steel on top of the screen? Its saphire glass, its the most durable only after a diamond on mohs hardness scale.
Based on my watches a majority of hits come from the side and if it falls directly down that lip will save both instances. So really direct impacts of something smaller than the face is the only thing left to worry about.
I have a Garmin Fenix and the lips aren't raised that much either. It isn't possible to make a watch that fully protect the screen from the front without blocking the screen lol
@@unvcht5046 at least it will last much longer and be useful in 10 years time, can't say the same for the smart watch. Let me borrow your smart watch and I'll film a video of myself throwing my G Shock and your smart watch at a wall and see which one survives 😎
The siren has been tested from over 600 feet away by other tech TH-camrs and they've shown that it's more than loud enough. I think iFixit needs to stick to taking things apart instead of analyzing the gadget's abilities.
yes true, was quite odd that the guy just sad indoors at a desk and didn't do a proper test before criticizing the feature. would not rely on this channel for proper reviews, there are many great channels that does thorough testing
Pretty absurd for you to so casually discount the siren feature. If it's the last thing you do before passing out, activating that siren could definitely save your life if someone is trying to find your body buried under snow from an avalanche or while you're in a cave dying from dehydration.
To be honest I’m amazed that it was made with this level of repairability. They could have just slathered it with glue and called it a day. It seems like they are making a visible effort to be more repairable. I’m actually liking this watch a lot. Thank you for the video. I think I’ll pick up the ultra AW and give it a go.
About the Siren apparently the Apple Watch can detect if it’s indoors and won’t play the Siren as loud as it might outdoors maybe that’s why it sounded so weak
The screen is actually quite tough from a straight on hit. It was smashed several times with a hammer and the desk underneath it broke before the screen did.
Anything after the series 7 watch and iPhone 12, requires at least 120c to loosen the glue. The upside is that these displays are quite resilient if handled properly. To open the watch i recommend a cut to size Dorco blade, 120c of heat and iso 99%. Screen refurbishment process looks identical to the series 7 were you don’t need to cut any glass or remove any frame to separate the glass. This is a win in my opinion.
true the guys are getting lazy, just gave some intern tools and said here try and open this best you can and then blames the design for being bad. didn't even go outside to test the siren, just making a video for the sake of it.
I feel like the amount of effort put into this teardown and video was about the same as Apple put into the Series 7 and 8 watches… aka NONE! Also considering you referenced the 8 teardown in this video, where is that video?! That one should have been out before the Ultra, considering that model released first for the public to purchase.
I would love to see iFixIt take apart a high end Swiss watch and assess its repairability. This is the kind of complexity which goes into these devices, but no-one has ever complained to the Swiss watch industry about repairability. We’re really coming at this with false expectations.
good point, these devices are crammed with so much tech and just because this guy is not skilled to properly open or repair this device, doesn't mean the manufacturer made a bad design.
Mechanical watches are harder to repair and service because most have some forty to seventy parts, but they aren't _so_ bad. I oiled the ETA 2892 movement of a Tag Heuer watch using tools I found at home (though the four Moebius oil types themselves were pretty expensive). Everything is predictable: all you do is unscrew and re-screw screws, remove, wash, lubricate & replace parts, and take a photo every now and again so you can remember where stuff goes. Smartwatches, which are really in a different class, have less tolerances from moving parts and generally less mechanical complexity. They should be easier to make repairable.
Samsung has made repairable watches sense apple started, not that hard, the screen is a different story on mostly everything, but getting inside to replace a disposable battery, because say it with me all batteries have an end of life, that's very important
The siren is about location especially when incapacitated, and not able to call out on your own. Not only that but it's not supposed to be loud but rather heard from a long distance, different frequencies.
Like, I got respect for y'all iFixit...but some of your takes really miss the mark. Like the screen. "Glass" like this is, by far, most vulnerable to shatter when being impacted on the edge...which is completely protected here. Yes you can still shatter it with a direct front hit but that take a lot more impact force and if the impact is at any kind of angle at all or even perfectly flat on a flat surface, the frame is going to take some of the impact force. ...and what exactly do you think a few extra mm of uplift of the titanium border is going to do about smacking the face into the point of a jagged rock? Not a thing. Some types of abuse will break pretty much whatever device you're wearing. Also, the siren isn't primarily about decibels but what frequencies it uses and that the cadence and alterations to the pulses sound entirely out of place in nature.
can you remove all material from the case other then titanium? i would like to blacken the titanium and it requires to quench it in oil and make it hot yellow multiple times..
FYI The siren has two levels, one when you are indoors and one outdoors. The watch knows when you are outdoors by using the mics, and the sound level is adjusted. The bottom line is - when you really will need it, it will be loud, much louder for the indoor test in this video.
Enough tests have been done to prove the only way you’ll need to replace the screen glass is if you’ve already beaten up the watch to the point the internal components are already ruined
1:44 in and I'm confused. Everyone I watched so far (random people I don't even follow that just seemed to test stuff well and unbiased) said the Siren was great and GPS has always been great. Dafuq.... Edit: A minute later: The lip is not great. What is going on here....
Two comments : the siren gets louder when you cover the screen and the display turns off. Genius ! Also if you let the siren keep going it plays the SOS tones.
My watch ultra 1 is the first one I’ve used without a screen protector or case and its by far much durable than the other Apple Watches. Still looks brand new after 2 years. Some minor scuffing on the frame but it wipes right off. The screen doesn’t have a scratch on it
it seems that they never go all away around with the Uspudger when trying to remove the screen, need to get the glue out first! never repaired this watch though tbh
I dunno. I don't watch iFixit vids much anymore and it's been a minute. But this guy is highly entertaining and not afraid to express his immediate emotions during those exciting and often tribulating teardowns. He uttered and especially juicy, "I hate it" at some point and I guffawed. Nice work teardown originalists!
The whole process seemed like you didn’t like the watch from the beginning. Never use metal tools to pry screens or anything. 17 years experienced repair shop.
The whole review is about “if you do this, then it gets damaged”… but have you ACTUALLY tested it? I’ve seen a TH-camr dragging the watch behind a car, hit it against a number of steel posts, threw it in the air as high as he could… the screen was pristine after all of that. Show me your test scenarios, please. I really dislike the misinformation you’re spreading.
1:37 actually you think it's weak but the truth is my brother smushed my face after I was trying the siren for a while, and he was away from me. so it's very loud.
@ifixit have you tried to tear down a Garmin Fenix 7X Sapphire solar? That’s a very durable watch made of titanium as well and it has power glass and solar charging on the screen
Tengo un apple watch ultra y cuando lo enlazo me dice que no se pueden cargar los servicios en este apple watch y cuando me pongo en contacto con el servicio tecnico de apple los llevo esperando 3 semanas y no me dan soluciones
I hate ifixit now. I remember before when it was really about disassembling and discovering the wonders Apple engineers had created for their costumers. Now it’s all about throwing random criticism on features that actually work to make more views and force people into commenting like I’m doing here. At least Apple did their work, ifixit didn’t.
I'm curious if the screen is *actually* sapphire crystal like Apple claims, or if it's some sort of hybrid glass like Ceramic Shield. If it is indeed sapphire, my guess would be that the raised lip is to prevent the sides of the crystal from being struck. My understanding is that sapphire is more scratch resistant, but also more brittle if struck the right way, like it has a sort of grain, perhaps? If it's hit against the grain it's more likely to be fine, but if it's hit with the grain, it could shatter? Not sure how accurate that is. I do want to thank you for disassembling this! Hopefully not many people attempt to disassemble this Apple Watch and try to swim with it afterwards. I was just in an Apple Store today to see how big the watch actually was and also to decide which band size I would need to get. Someone else that was looking sounded interested in disassembling it, I hope for the watch's sake that they don't swim with it should they attempt to dismantle it.
If you watch TechRax's video, it seems like it might be actual sapphire. It didn't scratch at all when shaken in a jar of nails and it took several hammer hits to shatter the screen.
A problem with the Apple Watch here in miami was the screen coming off. Is the Ultra using the same glue or amount to hold the glass to the watch frame? That is a deal breaker of me if it does because that means it will pop off in a year.
As always, a special tool will be required to replace the screen. Something like a suction cup or device that holds with vacuum and a heat gun to soften the adhesive.
@гопник it’s expensive, but not THAT expensive, at the quantity needed for a phone. I have a bicycle made out of the stuff, so it’s not beyond possible.
@гопник whatever. I was just pointing out that it was easily possible, and it’s likely there would be a market for an iPhone ultra Ti. I’ve no idea if apple will, but they definitely could if they wanted to. High end products are kinda their thing.
the siren emits a frequency, not so much a sound. i guess you also havent seen all of the videos on the watches durability where that tiny lip pretty much saves the watch from everything
Siren Loudness: DC Rainmaker explained in his review that the efficacy of the siren (or alarm) was more due to the frequencies used, and the cadence between chirps than pure loudness.
And he went on to test it from the claimed 600 meters and found it easily audible, suggesting in good conditions it could be heard from even farther away.
And it gets louder when you point the watch away from you. Like the flash light which gets brighter when you point it away from you.
Easy enough to test out the effectiveness - play some hide and seek in a national park, on a hiking trail, in the woods somewhere.
The idea is that rescue would have some GPS coords right? And the alarm gets them the rest of the way?
If the alarm speaker has some water inside the sound will be super low. Water eject doesn’t work properly on that speaker so you have to wait around 12 hours until it dries.
Different perceptions. DC is outdoors often with an ear out for things on trails.
Ifixit guy might be used to being indoors, top notch headphones on.
I found the siren not only easy to detect at range but the pitch made direction easy to detect.
Its not about loudness. Its about the chirp and the specific sound it makes. Its more distinct especially when you are in the wilderness. Many people have tested it and have proved that it can easily be heard from far away
Agreed a lot of places in nature are very quiet, hearing a 90-decibel man-made noise is very noticeable in the mountains.
Man these tech reviewers really don't get it.
It was also a terribly dishonest trial of it. As soon as it begins to get louder, as it gets louder over time, he rushes to turn it off and slap a negative opinion on it. Sloppy.
@@MillieMoses Right? It's easily noticable in the video that it gets way louder when the screen turns off, presumably to protect the wearers hearing while the watch is raised near their head. Smh.
I guess he was expecting an Ambulance Siren or sort of... hahaha
Perhaps a suction cup on the screen might improve chances of intact removal?
You're spot on brother
💯 don't have to be an expert to know this.. lazy attempt
@@jbutler The guy on the video was so aggressive for nothing lmao AHAHAHAHAHAh
What did you expect would happen when you pried the screen away with a metal tool?
For it not to break, like our Guide Writer who expertly removed the glass on his device. Nice work Dominik :)
www.ifixit.com/Guide/Opening+Procedure/153357
@@iFixitYourself you need to get someone that has the skills to be able to do this. Anyone can give tools to a intern and say try and open this Apple watch and if the screen breaks blame it on poor design.
Apple could have easily used a seal, that swell above 140 F, thus lifting up the display for easy pry. They deliberately choose to not.
@@goiterlanternbase I feel like we've already talked how Apple doesn't want repairable devices, hmmm, not suuure if that's a new thing or not.. hhmmmmm
Oh wait.. 10 years ago it was the same just less "gotta break it more to repair it"
I normally fully agree with your assessments, but I think you’ve been a bit unfair to Apple here. It’s a very compact device with a very high level of water resistance. I wouldn’t expect it to be as easy to repair as a phone or laptop. That clearly wasn’t the correct way to remove the screen either. I agree that I wouldn’t wear the watch climbing (I wouldn’t wear any watch climbing) but I think for the vast majority of applications the raised lip will protect the screen. Also, the siren has a distinctive sound and is as good as can be expected from a tiny speaker. Personally, I think this is the best piece of hardware Apple has released in years.
Based AF
We try to be unbiased though I'm afraid this was my experience with this watch. There's a certain amount of marketing going on here on Apples part that borders on the dishonest and yet at other times they understate the engineering that went into the device just in case they get into trouble (the fine print on the 100m rating is interesting as an example - only guaranteed to a depth of 40m if I'm not mistaken).
All in all, I respect your opinion but we've not tried to sell anything or sway any opinions on the device itself. Cracked screens aside, repairing a battery on this device while trying to save an already function screen will be difficult for the average person. Screen replacements on this device need practice to remove intact and it's simply not something people will risk with a screen that's likely to be expensive. -SM
@@iFixitYourself It's guaranteed to 100m, it's just that the depth limit for recreational diving is 40m, so the depth sensor and Oceanic+ app will only work down to that depth, anything more and it stays waterproof, but displays a 'deeper than 40m' message on the watch.
@@iFixitYourself that's only for the dive computer which is only certified for 40m. WR100 funnily does not mean actual 100m, this is the same for other highend watches like the Polar Grit X. It has WR100 but you are not allowed to use it for any diving it all. The AWU is actually the first smart watch at all that is officially certified for SCUBA diving and the inclusion of an acutal diving computer is freakin cool und currently unmatched.
@@iFixitYourself Thank you for your reply and I respect your opinion as well. Maybe we’re coming at this from different angles. I expect a phone or laptop to be user repairable but I actually don’t expect it with a watch. Maybe that’s because I’m coming from using mechanical diving watches which you’d never dream of trying to take apart yourself. As for Apple’s marketing, the only part I disagreed with was the footage of someone climbing as there is no way that wouldn’t destroy any watch. Apart from that I think what you get is pretty much what they advertise.
The siren slowly gets louder and more annoying if you leave it on longer. Most reviewers haven't allowed it to get louder before letting us know how loud it gets lol
it's just laziness on poor review on their side.
You know what is loud though? The background music in this video. Why is this still an issue for creators?
i would expect better from ifixit to actually try and properly remove the screen rather than start prying till something breaks it’s ifixit supposed to be a resource for self repair hence “ifix it”
Taking a page from JerryRigEverything’s tear down videos
Not only that, but if your screen is broken anyway, replacing it looks easy. Replacing the battery alone looks unlikely, but at least you only have to remove the screen.
If it was possible, they’d have done it
Since when did Apple watch had “abysmal” record for gps accuracy? Its one of the best on a smart watch!
Yeah they've said and done a couple things in this video that seem misinformed
They did have a problem early on with their smoothing algorithms that resulted in bad tracks, but even worse distances particularly in the woods or other places with tough satellite reception. My Series 3 now has very good tracks, but still overestimates many distances. I think most of Apples’s recent watches are pretty much spot on. And I don’t think the problem was ever antennas.
Right? DC Rainmaker and The Quantified Scientist are probably the most thorough smartwatch testers on the internet and they gave really high scores for Apple Watch GPS and its sensors for accuracy.
Exactly, I've never had issues with the gps on the 3 Apple watches I've owned. Why do reviewers feel the need to make claims about a device without providing proof?
@@JXHNDRX like the lip does nothing 😂 common sense checks out
I guess you are removing the screen the wrong way. You need some sort of small suction cups for that
Also he need to use a heat gun against the glass for a few minutes, to make the glue to get softer and less adhesive, that is standard when removing the glass screen on iPhones.
It’s supposed to be a specific frequency that you only hear it from the distance while still not harming the user that is wearing the watch that is why sometimes you could hear wild animals when they’re miles away, and being next to them don’t sound much different. it is a certain frequency that echoes further than being pure loudness also when you are in the mountains or Forrest there will be wind currents that’ll push the sound to be further away.
iFixit repair score = 1
Hugh Jeffreys = “I couldn’t disagree more with iFixit, they’re so biased towards Apple”
He actually said that ifixit was giving too high of a score. Your comment makes no sense.
@@Zach.O NO Dont feed lies!!
"There is a 170 degree danger" What do you want them to do? put steel on top of the screen? Its saphire glass, its the most durable only after a diamond on mohs hardness scale.
I like how he turned the siren off saying it wasn’t very loud literally right when it got noticeably louder.
Apple care+ gets you unlimited repairs which is awesome
Please teardown Xreal Air AR glasses
Based on my watches a majority of hits come from the side and if it falls directly down that lip will save both instances. So really direct impacts of something smaller than the face is the only thing left to worry about.
My G Shock repeatedly gets whacked on the sides, rarely on the front unless I’m walking adjacent to a wall.
@@darthraider450 if your g shock as smart as ultra watch lol
I have a Garmin Fenix and the lips aren't raised that much either. It isn't possible to make a watch that fully protect the screen from the front without blocking the screen lol
@@unvcht5046 at least it will last much longer and be useful in 10 years time, can't say the same for the smart watch. Let me borrow your smart watch and I'll film a video of myself throwing my G Shock and your smart watch at a wall and see which one survives 😎
@@darthraider450 2 watches built for really different purposes. Both leaders of their own games, they dont compare to eachother.
The siren has been tested from over 600 feet away by other tech TH-camrs and they've shown that it's more than loud enough. I think iFixit needs to stick to taking things apart instead of analyzing the gadget's abilities.
yes true, was quite odd that the guy just sad indoors at a desk and didn't do a proper test before criticizing the feature. would not rely on this channel for proper reviews, there are many great channels that does thorough testing
Tell me you hate apple without telling me you hate apple
I think maybe a suction method to remove the screen is better
Uuummm Apple Watch doesn't have an "abismal reputation for GPS accuracy", it has had a great reputation the last 3-4 generations.
Pretty absurd for you to so casually discount the siren feature. If it's the last thing you do before passing out, activating that siren could definitely save your life if someone is trying to find your body buried under snow from an avalanche or while you're in a cave dying from dehydration.
If I'm from dehydration that would be the last thing I'd want to hear
Glad to see these metal encased batteries moving up, hope they use it on iPhones and Macbooks eventually
you didn’t let the siren get to the loud part
At least the flat screen surface means it's much easier and better looking with a screen protector
Already have a glass protector on mine and it's completely invisible. Super nice.
@@AvocadoAtrocity Where from? 👀is it great quality? I need one myself
true everyone is saying this, can't just shove a metal piece underneath the screen use excessive force and then be surprised when the screen breaks.
I don’t screen protector is necessary it’s sapphire crystal screen
To be honest I’m amazed that it was made with this level of repairability. They could have just slathered it with glue and called it a day. It seems like they are making a visible effort to be more repairable.
I’m actually liking this watch a lot. Thank you for the video.
I think I’ll pick up the ultra AW and give it a go.
Glad you liked the video! Its a nice watch, I hope you get many years of use and enjoyment from it :)
I’ll definitely consider it soon! But I’ll wait for it to go on sale
do people really talk like advertisements?
Have we seen the same video ? You need to break the screen to access the battery, WTF
@@LeBlafy You don’t “need” to break the screen - just because they broke it, doesn’t mean everyone would.
Bummed the battery isn't behind the back of the watch. Was really hoping it would be with screws there to easily replace when needed.
About the Siren apparently the Apple Watch can detect if it’s indoors and won’t play the Siren as loud as it might outdoors maybe that’s why it sounded so weak
The screen is actually quite tough from a straight on hit. It was smashed several times with a hammer and the desk underneath it broke before the screen did.
Exactly. You'd be surprised just how hard you'd have to hit it with "a jagged rock" before it would actually break.
I bonked against a wall with just my hand and it cracked right open and no Apple care.
Anything after the series 7 watch and iPhone 12, requires at least 120c to loosen the glue.
The upside is that these displays are quite resilient if handled properly.
To open the watch i recommend a cut to size Dorco blade, 120c of heat and iso 99%.
Screen refurbishment process looks identical to the series 7 were you don’t need to cut any glass or remove any frame to separate the glass.
This is a win in my opinion.
You didn't heat the display before removing it
I guess you missed the part of the video where he heated the display before removing it then
One thing for certain, Apple put a lot more effort into making the Apple Watch ultra, then iFixit put into making this video
true the guys are getting lazy, just gave some intern tools and said here try and open this best you can and then blames the design for being bad. didn't even go outside to test the siren, just making a video for the sake of it.
Considering u likely won’t replace the screen unless u break it, makes me happy at the repairability
I feel like the amount of effort put into this teardown and video was about the same as Apple put into the Series 7 and 8 watches… aka NONE! Also considering you referenced the 8 teardown in this video, where is that video?! That one should have been out before the Ultra, considering that model released first for the public to purchase.
I would love to see iFixIt take apart a high end Swiss watch and assess its repairability. This is the kind of complexity which goes into these devices, but no-one has ever complained to the Swiss watch industry about repairability. We’re really coming at this with false expectations.
You mean: when you’re buying a Ferrari, would you really try to repair this by yourself or let bloody beginners repair it? Oh He’ll naw. 😂
Excellent!
good point, these devices are crammed with so much tech and just because this guy is not skilled to properly open or repair this device, doesn't mean the manufacturer made a bad design.
Mechanical watches are harder to repair and service because most have some forty to seventy parts, but they aren't _so_ bad. I oiled the ETA 2892 movement of a Tag Heuer watch using tools I found at home (though the four Moebius oil types themselves were pretty expensive). Everything is predictable: all you do is unscrew and re-screw screws, remove, wash, lubricate & replace parts, and take a photo every now and again so you can remember where stuff goes.
Smartwatches, which are really in a different class, have less tolerances from moving parts and generally less mechanical complexity. They should be easier to make repairable.
Samsung has made repairable watches sense apple started, not that hard, the screen is a different story on mostly everything, but getting inside to replace a disposable battery, because say it with me all batteries have an end of life, that's very important
I almost stop watching when he did not understand how the siren was suppose to work. Ifixit quality had dropped so much these days.
About the Siren the sound get louder and louder every 5 seconds
1:30 I thought the siren will only be as loud as it’s location indoors low and outdoors extra loud?
I want an iPhone Ultra now
The siren is about location especially when incapacitated, and not able to call out on your own. Not only that but it's not supposed to be loud but rather heard from a long distance, different frequencies.
It's nice to see that this is more repairable than other Apple Watches. Can't wait to receive mine.
Would you mind showing us divers a close up photo of the pressure sensor?
3:52 I feel like this little “cut out” was a scratch from your pry-tool lmaoo
Might look like it but it's not. You see these often in other encased batteries.
I'm still rocking the series 7 wallpaper on my Ultra. Apple Watch Ultra X-Ray wallpaper when!?!?
Hello iFixit,
Do you know what technology is used for the siren? Do you have a picture of it in isolation with the dimensions?
Thanks!
Teardown for watch series8 please upload that video as well . Good work really helpfull as technician
When are you going to do teardowns & repairs of equivalent mechanical watches/
The Ultra is just amazing.
Like, I got respect for y'all iFixit...but some of your takes really miss the mark. Like the screen. "Glass" like this is, by far, most vulnerable to shatter when being impacted on the edge...which is completely protected here. Yes you can still shatter it with a direct front hit but that take a lot more impact force and if the impact is at any kind of angle at all or even perfectly flat on a flat surface, the frame is going to take some of the impact force.
...and what exactly do you think a few extra mm of uplift of the titanium border is going to do about smacking the face into the point of a jagged rock? Not a thing. Some types of abuse will break pretty much whatever device you're wearing.
Also, the siren isn't primarily about decibels but what frequencies it uses and that the cadence and alterations to the pulses sound entirely out of place in nature.
“Look at that, its baked!” 🤣
can you remove all material from the case other then titanium? i would like to blacken the titanium and it requires to quench it in oil and make it hot yellow multiple times..
Could the entire case be separated so that in theory you could color anodize the case?
After opening it up it really worth that much of money 👏👏
Great video! When are y’all gonna start selling those dope blue grid mats??
Right! That’s all I want to know… I want one of those repair mats!
Siren isn’t weak. What did you expect from a watch? To be as loud as an ambulance siren?
FYI
The siren has two levels, one when you are indoors and one outdoors.
The watch knows when you are outdoors by using the mics, and the sound level is adjusted.
The bottom line is - when you really will need it, it will be loud, much louder for the indoor test in this video.
You can immediately see the "concern for the environment" with this way of changing the battery!))))
I would like to see what’s inside the system-in-package
Enough tests have been done to prove the only way you’ll need to replace the screen glass is if you’ve already beaten up the watch to the point the internal components are already ruined
you're not fixing it, you're killing it 🤣😂🤣
Micro sucker pliers like the ones you make for iPhone? I bet these would open the screen after heat without breaking it.
1:44 in and I'm confused. Everyone I watched so far (random people I don't even follow that just seemed to test stuff well and unbiased) said the Siren was great and GPS has always been great. Dafuq....
Edit: A minute later: The lip is not great. What is going on here....
A repair shop who hates Apple complaining about how apple isn’t repairable… doesn’t get old at all
I never comment but I would love a link to organization mat shown at 3:35
Possible to buy just an Apple Watch ultra titanium frame? Know of any websites?
Two comments : the siren gets louder when you cover the screen and the display turns off. Genius ! Also if you let the siren keep going it plays the SOS tones.
It's made very well.. good video..
i'm curios about this type of battery. it seems small with high density, how its colled this tecnology?
Before you declare the siren as weak, did you ask your neighbor if they hear a weird sound coming from your set?
HEY! its safe washing hands with liquid soap? if it gets inside?
My watch ultra 1 is the first one I’ve used without a screen protector or case and its by far much durable than the other Apple Watches. Still looks brand new after 2 years. Some minor scuffing on the frame but it wipes right off. The screen doesn’t have a scratch on it
@iFixit where can I find legit parts for my Apple Watch ultra?
it seems that they never go all away around with the Uspudger when trying to remove the screen, need to get the glue out first! never repaired this watch though tbh
Is the action button separable?
please teardown the Galaxy Watch5 Pro!
I dunno. I don't watch iFixit vids much anymore and it's been a minute.
But this guy is highly entertaining and not afraid to express his immediate emotions during those exciting and often tribulating teardowns. He uttered and especially juicy, "I hate it" at some point and I guffawed.
Nice work teardown originalists!
The whole process seemed like you didn’t like the watch from the beginning. Never use metal tools to pry screens or anything. 17 years experienced repair shop.
Stupid question maybe, but could you not use the "Gripping" tool to remove the screen?
Its too big
@@Zach.O Make a smaller one?
The screws are there to keep it watertight, compressing the gasket.
The whole review is about “if you do this, then it gets damaged”… but have you ACTUALLY tested it?
I’ve seen a TH-camr dragging the watch behind a car, hit it against a number of steel posts, threw it in the air as high as he could… the screen was pristine after all of that. Show me your test scenarios, please.
I really dislike the misinformation you’re spreading.
Samsung is chillin with a very high repairabilty score
anyone know if it's possible to replace the ceramix back plate? my watch doesnt charge anymore and apple says its most likely the back plate.
1:37 actually you think it's weak but the truth is my brother smushed my face after I was trying the siren for a while, and he was away from me.
so it's very loud.
Now put it back together. I “fix” it means actually fixing it.
More like iBreakIt, amirite?
Can the magnetic mat on which you have placed the parts of the Watch be purchased anywhere?
@ifixit have you tried to tear down a Garmin Fenix 7X Sapphire solar? That’s a very durable watch made of titanium as well and it has power glass and solar charging on the screen
Tengo un apple watch ultra y cuando lo enlazo me dice que no se pueden cargar los servicios en este apple watch y cuando me pongo en contacto con el servicio tecnico de apple los llevo esperando 3 semanas y no me dan soluciones
I hate ifixit now. I remember before when it was really about disassembling and discovering the wonders Apple engineers had created for their costumers. Now it’s all about throwing random criticism on features that actually work to make more views and force people into commenting like I’m doing here. At least Apple did their work, ifixit didn’t.
I'm curious if the screen is *actually* sapphire crystal like Apple claims, or if it's some sort of hybrid glass like Ceramic Shield. If it is indeed sapphire, my guess would be that the raised lip is to prevent the sides of the crystal from being struck. My understanding is that sapphire is more scratch resistant, but also more brittle if struck the right way, like it has a sort of grain, perhaps? If it's hit against the grain it's more likely to be fine, but if it's hit with the grain, it could shatter? Not sure how accurate that is.
I do want to thank you for disassembling this! Hopefully not many people attempt to disassemble this Apple Watch and try to swim with it afterwards. I was just in an Apple Store today to see how big the watch actually was and also to decide which band size I would need to get. Someone else that was looking sounded interested in disassembling it, I hope for the watch's sake that they don't swim with it should they attempt to dismantle it.
If you watch TechRax's video, it seems like it might be actual sapphire. It didn't scratch at all when shaken in a jar of nails and it took several hammer hits to shatter the screen.
The watch apparently is smart enough to detect if you are indoors so the siren won't be as loud. LTT's test was pretty loud. But they did it outdoors.
How many charges the battery carries I mean battery life
Modherbord cost ultra?
A problem with the Apple Watch here in miami was the screen coming off. Is the Ultra using the same glue or amount to hold the glass to the watch frame? That is a deal breaker of me if it does because that means it will pop off in a year.
That sound might be weak but can you design your own smart watch from scratch? 😅
1:38
This channel is the best.
As always, a special tool will be required to replace the screen. Something like a suction cup or device that holds with vacuum and a heat gun to soften the adhesive.
Is it feasible for the next iPhone externals to use titanium instead of stainless steel?
@гопник it’s expensive, but not THAT expensive, at the quantity needed for a phone. I have a bicycle made out of the stuff, so it’s not beyond possible.
@гопник whatever. I was just pointing out that it was easily possible, and it’s likely there would be a market for an iPhone ultra Ti. I’ve no idea if apple will, but they definitely could if they wanted to. High end products are kinda their thing.
How about diag connector?
So what is the back for if we cant replace any components?
dive certification
the siren emits a frequency, not so much a sound.
i guess you also havent seen all of the videos on the watches durability where that tiny lip pretty much saves the watch from everything
Man I just tried to blow that hair away 🤣🤣🤣