I gotta admit, Darth Nihilus is my most favorite Sith Lord. His power level, abilities, knowledge, danger level and everything makes him look like he can take anyone in a fight
Fun Fact - The hunger was also eating away his physical form, so in a successful attempt to keep himself alive he bonded his spirit/consciousness, and his force to his robes and mask. Another Fun Fact - His mask is still somewhere in the galaxy cursed with his soul and hunger. Rumor says who ever wears it will be possessed by him, the dark side of the force and the hunger that was eating away at him.
@@cngotham4111let's not he is so op they don't even know how to kill him off. That's why they keep him in legends. Also Disney don't have the rights to him or the two women that were with him George Lucas refused to give those rights saying those characters will never be given do to how problematic they are and don't want anyone messing with them do to fan base.
yeah. he did it instinctively. anyone around him would get instinctively drained, and when he was focused on draining something, he was insanely powerful with it.
@@majora919stronger warriors to be sure, but palpatine went the way of the force master rather than warrior, so its a different type of strength, blade on blade and he'd get smoked tho
"He cares nothing for the Sith or its teachings… or the Jedi. And when the Jedi are dead, he will feed on the galaxy, the Republic, and eventually, consume the Sith as well."
Ah Darth Galactus, one of my favorite characters from the three Kotor games, and a real powerful beast. Another power I THINK he had allowed him to use the Force to hurl the Ravager through hyperspace, as I don't believe that component of the ship was still functional, and like Galactus, there were times when Darth Nihilus was on a clock, and taking too long could mean death. He was a lot of un in Kotor 2. I always thought it was weird how hus ship's "crew" were still alive, barely, but it was like their life-force, and even consciousness, had been devoured, and there was nothing left of them, as the people they gad once been. Truly the Lord of Hunger, indeed.
Marvel turned Galan into a jobber or punching bag, being defeated by forces that should never be possible. Hes a universal force-balance or equity. Never sat right with me. Darth Honeybadger doesn't have that problem.
There is not much to see. Kreia told us everything we needed to know about him. He's just a broken bottomless force sink born from the force wound created on Malachor. From the day he rose up from the ashes of Malachor to the day of his demise on Telos, he didn't do much besides get a fraction of Kreia's teachings and aimlessly wander around the galaxy to feed. There just is no material to work with for an adaptation. If your desire is just to witness a scene or two of him displaying his force powers, that's a pretty piss poor excuse for a show.
So did Nihilus control his flag ship completely, to where he was the only thing keeping it together and moving, or did he lift it long enough for it to be repaired and usable again? Because if it’s the former then that would be insanely impressive!
He controlled it enough to get it into orbit. It was operational by the time of the games. No one besides maybe Prime un-burnt Anakin, Legends Grandmaster Luke or The Ones could pull off holding every piece of a star cruiser together while going through hyper space. Nihilus was a goat, but honestly Papls, Vader, and even comics Kylo Ren beat him negative, mid and mid/high difficulty
@@DK666999 Nihuls beats Kylo Ren negative diff Also Nihilus can use red force lighting, the strongest variation, so I don't think Vader will have a fun time fighting him if he can't even tank Palpatine's lighting.
You can't even look at Nihilus as a man, he was more like a walking embodiment of the Dark Side. The Jedi Exile was likely the only being in the entirety of Galactic history that could have taken him down, because of their unique relationship with the Force. Had they not crossed paths Nihilus would have drained all life from the Galaxy.
Vader and Palpatine both beat him no difficulty. Both of them can resist force drain and they are much better in dueling than Nihilus. And if you use legends Palpatine, than it's overkill, he could create force sorms that ripped space apart, and he could drain planets too
@@1997lordofdoom just because he has red force lightning, it doesn't mean his lightning is stronger. Palpatine can disintegrate people with his force lightning too, and he was shutting down a whole fleet in Rise of Skywalker. And force lightning is not comparable to force storm, it literally teared space apart.
@@mr.macsek8457 I'm tired of fandoms coming up with every imaginable way to make it so the Palp/Vader duo always remains on top. We get it, you like those characters. Good on you. You get writers to come up with crazy explanations so you get your fantasy to live on, even if it's detrimental to the overall diversity of the SW narrative landscape. When Nihilus was designed and written, "resistance to force drain" wasn't a thing. The only thing that could beat and actually defeated Nihilus was him trying to feed on a force wound. Not because Nihilus was strong, he never was strong as a Sith lord anyways, but just because he happened to have an ability that was otherwise impossible to counter. Back in the days, it was pretty simple: you're a force wound, you kill Nihilus easily. If you are not and are a force sensitive lifeform, you die, period. Simple as. And it made Nihilus' character relevant, because he was meant to be a sort of "Dark Side Doom", like a sort of natural disaster that you can't stop with cunning or power of any sorts, only with the right tools. All of this fluff that was added to have the "mainstream characters remain powerful" "compared" to older ones, so kiddies can still happily play "wHo StroNgeREst In Star Wers!!!?!!!1!" undermines the writting and is just an overall annoyance that doesn't add anything to the SW universe.
@@mr.macsek8457They can't resist the power Nihilus. Nihilus isn't simply using force drain, his ability is far beyond regular force drain. He doesn't just empower himself, he literally feeds off of it. His ability was not only that powerful but also massive in scale. He didn't even have to step on a planet to drain the force from it entirely. He would do it from the bridge of his ship, which was already destroyed by the way. Nihilus simply held it together using the force and he did that passively without having much issue, we're talking a ship full of holes that lead to outer space btw. The ship was being held together by him and lead by his undead crew which he also controlled using the force. The guy was literally death incarnate, surrounded by death, the death of the force and everything around him. He is not the kind of threat someone like Vader was meant to face.
All of that was great because it made The Exile the ONLY person in the Galaxy that could stop Nihilus. Master-level skills, but similarly wounded in the Force to keep him from just obliterating her/him.
I saw somewhere that he was Dark Skinned with Dreads before he was transformed into Darth Nihilus I want nothing more than to know Darth Nihilus has Dreads
It's base off of the Nihilus acton figure. Star Wars Black Series Darth Nihilus. You could take off his hood and there would be dreads, that why you always see some fan arts of Nihilus with brown skin and dreads. I wish I had it.
i am a year late as of responding to this but yea i have this same figurine that comes with his lightsaber, detachable hood and cloth like robe. it was limited edition so hasbro no longer makes it but i plan on keeping mine for as long as possible it could sell for alot to a conisseur lol that an also have a limited edition General Grievous in his Kaleesh warlord form which also has detachable pieces to wear you can see what he looks like fully with no mask an what his hair woulda looked like
From all that I remember from Kreia, she described him as a Wound in the Force, or maybe malignant cancer? Either way, with something summarizing him like that and how he just keeps "eating" i figured him just this literal *_V O I D_* in barely contained human form, which would make sense why he'd be more powerful than Sidious. I mean, being a literal black hole in human form capable of draining entire planets just by being nearby and _still_ be hungry to keep going's enough to say you're better than some dude who can cast super thunder in movies and cast super magic storms in Legends?
technically, nihilus himself was not all that powerful. but power did not matter when your enemy could murder you passively by being in the same space as you. against the exile, who was immune to his particular condition; nihilus fell like a sandcastle at high tide.
@@jacobmiller6289 hence why I was calling him a literal void in barely contained human form. It's not really his controlled powers that made him powerful, it's the fact he could just be in the same sector and you'd get soul sucked.
I don't know if there's enough material for a whole video each, but what about some on the characters from the Old Republic Era like Darth Marr, Darth Thanaton, and/or Darth Jadus from the Empire for example
Nihilus and Vitiate both seem to be raw force potential waaaaay off the charts. Vitiate was emperor of an army of Sith including other dark lords who were badass af. Palpatine is tactically the best, but his rule was kinda weak though. 20 years Vitiate was around for 1500 years, he's the energizer bunny of Sith he just kept going, and going, and going...
I wish Disney would do movies or a series set in the Old Republic era, or even earlier. The origins of different species in the galaxy far far away would be interesting to see.
nihilus pulled the ravager and an entire fleet that were mere wrecks held together by his sheer power. What starkiller did was like nothing special compared with nihilus power.
I've always thought of darth nihilus as the most powerful and terrify sith ever. More powerful in terms of sheer raw force power than sideous and more brutal and menacing than darth vader.
Nihilus was in a completely different league compared to Sidious and Vader. When you are a wound in the force like Nihilus was it means that your connection with the force is at 100% ( basically you are one with the force itself ). Sidious and Vader were extremely powerful sith lords .... but nowhere near Nihilus raw power.
It seems that Darth Nihilus was the so called Force God that Darth Veciate Was hoping to become with all of these abilities. In his own twisted way he became something of the Sith Ari.
It's not a question of "who was stronger". Nihilus was written as an average Sith, but who happened to develop a particularly deadly and unavoidable ability. Nihilus is NOT powerful, masterful, knowledgeable or cunning. He is in fact pretty weak overall. What makes him dangerous is his tremendous connection to the force, being a literal bottomless sink collecting force energy. That's what allows him to hold a battleship together, and that's why he craves the force energy of all who live. It's a simple characteristic, and the only relevant way to counter that terrifying ability was to make him try to feed on a wound himself, which resulted in him transfering his force energy to the force wound he tried to feed upon. What remained after this move was a shadow easily defeated by a pretty average jedi in terms of power, Meetra Surik. Well, that was the relevant way in terms of proper writting, the one that was envisioned when he was designed... Let's ignore the idiotic addendums exonerating X,Y and Z characters for some reasons, just because fanboys and fangirls were outraged at the thought that their beloved favorite character could be killed by a simple plot device such as Nihilus' feeding. Yes, Nihilus' force drain was written to be universally unavoidable except when interacting with force wounds. Like it or not, it was written this way and it was what made the character actually relevant to KotOR II's plot and overarching philosophy and deconstruction of the force concept. And yes, it means that when he was designed, he could theoretically kill anyone he sensed, who was in range, and who wasn't a force wound.
The biggest problem is for sidious the strongest sith People say he is universal in power Serious people Yet if he was even planetary powerful with force storms and all Or had the power to control the minds of millions of not billions Then it begs the question why didn’t he control teh galatic senate or need to build the Death Star Basically I hate to break it if people say siduous is the most powerful sith meaning more powerful than nihilus he would have done better The simplistic explanation to why nihilus can destroy worlds is because there is a drawback to force drain Taht would explain why palptine never did it And emperor visiate needs rituals and force users to syphon his focus Basically when it comes down to power you can’t simply say one is powerful in Star Wars As the line gets blurry
Darth Sidious is the most powerful Sith ever, that's just a fact. He literally took on the two most powerful Jedi ever. Nihilus is certainly one of a few likely in the same area of power though along with Emperor Vitiate, Exar Kun, Darth Revan, and possibly Dartj Plaguies (based off the fact Sidious was to afraid to face Plaguies in open combat back around TPM). Darth Sidious ability with force lightning alone is insane; he literally destroyed almost a fleet of ships. He was the best Sith duelist ever as well by the time of ROTS, though perhaps Vader became a better duelist then him by TROTJ.
The thing about GL’a statement about siduous being the most powerful sith in history has to do with the fact he had power over the galaxy as he ruled it Not that he was force power wise more powerful than every sith before him in the force but he is the only one in a sense of power gained control of the entire galaxy That’s what GL means As he said the Jedi of the prequel era were a threat to sidious and siduous couldn’t destroy a planet or control minds of an entire planet because if he could he wouldn’t need order 66 decades of planing or the death star If he was force powerful wise just as strong as the past sith who could It’s even clear the ancient sith are more powerful force wise But their power didn’t get them control of the entire galaxy But sidious has the potential to be on their level if he learns their secrets which in dark empire he does But before dark empire he wasn’t on their level
If anyone wants to chime in, I’ve got a question. Why would a Sith Lord like Niihilus bother with saber combat? His particular power set made using a lightsaber against him seem pointless. He can basically suck the soul out of you just by merely being near you. He can essentially kill you with a thought. That’s not something a saber can defend you against. A saber won’t help you against Nihilus’ deadly voice either. Doesn’t seem like Nihilus would have enough experience with saber combat to be any good at it.
He was slowly rotting into the dark side of the force. The insatiable hunger for force energy was terrifying. Definitely the scariest Sith of all time. Like a Sith vampire.
In terms of lightsaber combat, Lord Sidious absolutely CRUSHES Lord Nihilus 100% of the time. That being said however, if (and I stress the word IF) Lord Nihilus is able to use his Force Drain ability (I think that's what it's called) then Lord Sidious would be dead before he even had a chance to kiss his own Sith ass goodbye. Which in my opinion makes Lord Nihilus one of only two Sith Lords who could defeat and kill Lord Sidious, the other OBVIOUSLY being Lord Vitiate. And a fight between Lord Sidious and Lord Vitiate would essentially break down like this: a normal battle ensues, Lord Vitiate toys with Lord Sidious, then finishes the match...I mean fight...with the Sith Spine Buster, followed by the Sith Bottom, followed by the Sith Elbow. Then of course killing Lord Sidious. Finally ending with Lord Vitiate looking out of the Chancellor's Office at the Corusant skyline, raising one eyebrow, and saying: "if you smell-l-l-l-l-l what Emperor Vitiate is cooking". Now regarding Lord Nihilus against either Lord Sidious OR Lord Vitiate, the ONLY way Lord Nihilus would know he's been in a fight would be if Lord Vitiate used his own Force Powers against Lord Nihilus. Note how I DIDN'T include Lord Sidious, and that's simply because as powerful as Lord Sidious was in the Force, both Lord Vitiate and Lord Nihilus would OBLITERATE Lord Sidious. If Lord Vitiate somehow managed to prevent Lord Nihilus from using his Force Drain ability, then it would be an even 50-50 match-up. However, IF Lord Nihilus was able to use his Force Drain ability then, just EXACTLY like Lord Sidious, Lord Vitiate wouldn't even have enough time to bend over and kiss his own Sith ass goodbye. Just my own personal opinion anyway.
I got it don't know why I didn't think of him earlier Revan could literally cut through ALL of the Modern Day so called Sith basically kill his way right up to Palpy and well... really mess his stuff up.
Darth trea abiloth the father brother and sister the wills some of original jedu members maybe. Some original sith species maybe. Ummm jus thinking of few I'd find interesting idk if uve done this style video for any of them or not tbh but I did enjoy this video and the way u did it a fair amount more then your normal content which is really good and I also enjoy. Jus my thoughts. Hope u see this and all is well
Oh it's easy for Sith to use the light side to heal. It's basically "the force" version of skipping out on a hospital bill. I think it's called "force deadbeat."
he might be the coolest sith ever. he needs a movie or a show all his own. also, correct me if im wrong, but wasnt is body also technically none corporeal? Like, he was more a dark shadow then a physical entity...??
I’d really like to see some movies or something that show us how Siths like Nihilus were absolute monstrosities in the galaxy. I wonder if a wound in the force could take Abeloth.
Abeloth was defeated by Luke ... and Luke was not a wound in the force. Nihilus was a wound in the force. When you are a wound in the force you are literally one with the force itself ( you can´t get more powerful than that since you are at 100% connection to the force itself ) .... Nihilus would have had Abeloth for breakfast and still had room for Vitiate
A my opinion Darth nihilus may have started out as a dark lord of the Sith but towards the end was more akin to a dark force of nature. All but Unstoppable all-consuming, and I don't believe he is truly dead as long as his mask and robes remain there's a chance for him to possess another living body and come back. I wish they would do a Darth Nihilus storyline in Canon
Yeah, Palpatine was powerful but definitely it at the level other the top tier Sith Lords. But what made Palpatine dangerous was that he was much more political and strategic. He played the king game of subterfuge and brought down both the Republic and the Jedi.
Bane killed the man and his son to fight off Githanys poison. So he did use the same ability as Nihlus. Their fear helped him stave off effects of poison.
If someone ever makes a live action standalone movie or TV series of this terrifying sith lord,it must be good enough to do justice for him in legends otherwise,it's gonna be met with a great amount of criticism and potentially dislike
unless palpatine had some way to neutralize nihilus's draining, he's losing. putting a powerful force user like palpatine against nihilus is literally like trying to use a gas can to put out a fire. you're just feeding him more fuel.
Also did you know that? with the mask or the robs just of itself if someone else puts it on its just going to gain more power. To also let you know. If you take the mask or the robes off it can basically Force grab the entire physical body life drain of the person completely Palpatine can only handle so much out of a time because he's still physical though has the wise mind. Though Nihilus doesn't get tired. Though Palpatine still learns
I think you guys are very wrong on sense of his lightsaber skills he was trained in all old sith forms and was a master of all of them he also did fight with both hands but mainly one hand. He was also the most powerful sith and most terrying at the time to ever exist as he couldn't be killed by any physical lighsaber attack as he was a physical entity feeding of living force to stay physical in a spiritual way and red force lightening is the most power form a sith can use and he wielded it the only reason he was defeated was because he met another wound in the force Meetra Surik just like him and force drain doesn't work on a wound in the force he was also weaker at that point but beat meetra surik in the original fight but it kept going and eventually nihilus faded because he couldn't feed hence why trays set that trap because she knew if he didn't fall for it, it meant extinction of jedi and sith that's how terrifying nihilus was even sidious years later feared him
I wonder, i know that nihilus wants to eat all the energy of the universe, but i wonder if he knows that if he did that he would basically have nothing to feed on at somepoint and he would starve, but i do agree the he is way more powerfull then sideous
Ancient sith lords are powerfull and i find them too intrinesting sorry for my bad english dark healing now that is new to me i know about force healing i mean light side variant
Question: Why didn't Darth Nihilus feed on planets like geonosian or nahboo, they have a high population so wouldn't it make sense for him to feed on them kind of planets?
While Sidious ' fan Boys see him as the most powerful... there are other sith that had far greater abilities. Not to take anything away from Palpatine... he was powerful... but an older Vader took him out in a way some others would not have suffered. Even Vader surpassed Sidious (while still in his prime) and killed him in hand to hand combat. That is very impressive. Sidious was not the most powerful... yet still very impressive!
If Sidious was so powerful, y didn’t he use the force to destroy planets. Yet he built planet destroying machines. Sidious used weapons and Vitiate used rituals to drain/destroy life on a planetary scale. Darth Nihilus’s mere presence and hunger was enough to leech life where even multiple Jedi along with the 2 billion force sensitive Miralukas were present and couldn’t stop him.
Nice job detaling hes powers, and how scray he realy was... but here is my problem, when u have sith with this kind of power, how can enyone call Sidious the greatest Sith to ever live??( i dont blame u for this i blame Disny)
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"He is already dead, it is simply a question of how many he kills before he falls." Darth Traya
Strong words.
Awesome statement
It took Nihilus and Sion to take on Darth Traya.
@@scottross5495That was before he became as strong as we know him for otherwise she wouldn’t have been his hype man for the entire game
Precisely
I gotta admit, Darth Nihilus is my most favorite Sith Lord. His power level, abilities, knowledge, danger level and everything makes him look like he can take anyone in a fight
I’d love to see a well thought out ability to ability match up of Nihilus v Sidious
"Most favorite" is redundant and makes you sound like you're 3.
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Fun Fact - The hunger was also eating away his physical form, so in a successful attempt to keep himself alive he bonded his spirit/consciousness, and his force to his robes and mask.
Another Fun Fact - His mask is still somewhere in the galaxy cursed with his soul and hunger. Rumor says who ever wears it will be possessed by him, the dark side of the force and the hunger that was eating away at him.
Star Wars Lich King!
They should bring him in the new movies with that theory of someone taking his mask and finding out it was cursed after wearing it.
It’s on volik..
@@cngotham4111let's not he is so op they don't even know how to kill him off. That's why they keep him in legends. Also Disney don't have the rights to him or the two women that were with him George Lucas refused to give those rights saying those characters will never be given do to how problematic they are and don't want anyone messing with them do to fan base.
@kuninagako9035 that's not true at all Disney owns all of star wars don't know where you get this information from lol.
Drain Life was hardly unique to Nihilus though. What was unique about his Drain Life was the sheer scale of it
yeah. he did it instinctively. anyone around him would get instinctively drained, and when he was focused on draining something, he was insanely powerful with it.
@@harryhoudini9613so basically it all comes down to who was more powerful in the force? I’d still put my money on sidious
@@BrothaMan831hasn't it been stated all the ancient sith are way stronger?
@@majora919stronger warriors to be sure, but palpatine went the way of the force master rather than warrior, so its a different type of strength, blade on blade and he'd get smoked tho
Hehe
I saw Darth Nihilus at the gym once on the bunch press. Dude, makes EVERYONE look weak with the plates he was lifting.
I love how Nihilus legit spoke in some weird voice that nobody could really understand, makes him even creepier
it's believed that his language was that of the force
He speaks death
It's the sith language but sounded more terrifying echoing through the force
It's not Sith language since Nihilus was most likely a Jedi before Malachor V disaster.
Always made me think of a flushing toilet. :P
"He cares nothing for the Sith or its teachings… or the Jedi. And when the Jedi are dead, he will feed on the galaxy, the Republic, and eventually, consume the Sith as well."
Actually pretty similar to volkorion
Ah Darth Galactus, one of my favorite characters from the three Kotor games, and a real powerful beast. Another power I THINK he had allowed him to use the Force to hurl the Ravager through hyperspace, as I don't believe that component of the ship was still functional, and like Galactus, there were times when Darth Nihilus was on a clock, and taking too long could mean death. He was a lot of un in Kotor 2. I always thought it was weird how hus ship's "crew" were still alive, barely, but it was like their life-force, and even consciousness, had been devoured, and there was nothing left of them, as the people they gad once been. Truly the Lord of Hunger, indeed.
Marvel turned Galan into a jobber or punching bag, being defeated by forces that should never be possible. Hes a universal force-balance or equity. Never sat right with me.
Darth Honeybadger doesn't have that problem.
I’ll bet he had to replace his crew every time.
Nihilus was a brilliant concept. The epitome of a tragic character with nothing to lose.
I wish we could see more of him one day, seeing more of his horrific power and signature design
I’d like to see some animated series or something on it.
There is not much to see. Kreia told us everything we needed to know about him.
He's just a broken bottomless force sink born from the force wound created on Malachor. From the day he rose up from the ashes of Malachor to the day of his demise on Telos, he didn't do much besides get a fraction of Kreia's teachings and aimlessly wander around the galaxy to feed.
There just is no material to work with for an adaptation. If your desire is just to witness a scene or two of him displaying his force powers, that's a pretty piss poor excuse for a show.
Sadly, Disney would never bring this character into Canon.
So did Nihilus control his flag ship completely, to where he was the only thing keeping it together and moving, or did he lift it long enough for it to be repaired and usable again?
Because if it’s the former then that would be insanely impressive!
He controlled it enough to get it into orbit. It was operational by the time of the games. No one besides maybe Prime un-burnt Anakin, Legends Grandmaster Luke or The Ones could pull off holding every piece of a star cruiser together while going through hyper space. Nihilus was a goat, but honestly Papls, Vader, and even comics Kylo Ren beat him negative, mid and mid/high difficulty
@@DK666999 Thanks for the response. I was confused because in the short Nihilus comic it look like the ship is still in shambles while in space.
@@DK666999 Putting him against Ben just isn’t fair lmaoooo
@@DK666999 Did you just seriously say Kylo Ren would beat Darth Nihilus?
@@DK666999 Nihuls beats Kylo Ren negative diff
Also Nihilus can use red force lighting, the strongest variation, so I don't think Vader will have a fun time fighting him if he can't even tank Palpatine's lighting.
I've always loved Nihilus' design. I just now started playing KOTOR2. Can't wait to face him!
This guy makes Sideous look like a puppy
Sidious ragdolls him
You can't even look at Nihilus as a man, he was more like a walking embodiment of the Dark Side. The Jedi Exile was likely the only being in the entirety of Galactic history that could have taken him down, because of their unique relationship with the Force. Had they not crossed paths Nihilus would have drained all life from the Galaxy.
He makes Palpatine and Darth Vader look like children this guy needs his own Star Wars movie.
Vader and Palpatine both beat him no difficulty. Both of them can resist force drain and they are much better in dueling than Nihilus. And if you use legends Palpatine, than it's overkill, he could create force sorms that ripped space apart, and he could drain planets too
@@mr.macsek8457 Nihilus can use red force lighting which is the strongest variation. Vader is getting fried by Nihilus.
@@1997lordofdoom just because he has red force lightning, it doesn't mean his lightning is stronger. Palpatine can disintegrate people with his force lightning too, and he was shutting down a whole fleet in Rise of Skywalker. And force lightning is not comparable to force storm, it literally teared space apart.
@@mr.macsek8457 I'm tired of fandoms coming up with every imaginable way to make it so the Palp/Vader duo always remains on top. We get it, you like those characters. Good on you. You get writers to come up with crazy explanations so you get your fantasy to live on, even if it's detrimental to the overall diversity of the SW narrative landscape.
When Nihilus was designed and written, "resistance to force drain" wasn't a thing. The only thing that could beat and actually defeated Nihilus was him trying to feed on a force wound. Not because Nihilus was strong, he never was strong as a Sith lord anyways, but just because he happened to have an ability that was otherwise impossible to counter.
Back in the days, it was pretty simple: you're a force wound, you kill Nihilus easily. If you are not and are a force sensitive lifeform, you die, period. Simple as. And it made Nihilus' character relevant, because he was meant to be a sort of "Dark Side Doom", like a sort of natural disaster that you can't stop with cunning or power of any sorts, only with the right tools.
All of this fluff that was added to have the "mainstream characters remain powerful" "compared" to older ones, so kiddies can still happily play "wHo StroNgeREst In Star Wers!!!?!!!1!" undermines the writting and is just an overall annoyance that doesn't add anything to the SW universe.
@@mr.macsek8457They can't resist the power Nihilus. Nihilus isn't simply using force drain, his ability is far beyond regular force drain. He doesn't just empower himself, he literally feeds off of it.
His ability was not only that powerful but also massive in scale. He didn't even have to step on a planet to drain the force from it entirely. He would do it from the bridge of his ship, which was already destroyed by the way. Nihilus simply held it together using the force and he did that passively without having much issue, we're talking a ship full of holes that lead to outer space btw.
The ship was being held together by him and lead by his undead crew which he also controlled using the force. The guy was literally death incarnate, surrounded by death, the death of the force and everything around him. He is not the kind of threat someone like Vader was meant to face.
A favourite of mine too! 😍
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Such a underrated character darth nihlus is
All of that was great because it made The Exile the ONLY person in the Galaxy that could stop Nihilus. Master-level skills, but similarly wounded in the Force to keep him from just obliterating her/him.
Being around Nihlius is like having a constant uneasy feeling each second
I saw somewhere that he was Dark Skinned with Dreads before he was transformed into Darth Nihilus
I want nothing more than to know Darth Nihilus has Dreads
It's base off of the Nihilus acton figure.
Star Wars Black Series Darth Nihilus.
You could take off his hood and there would be dreads, that why you always see some fan arts of Nihilus with brown skin and dreads.
I wish I had it.
@@entityunknown732 Oh wow didn't even know about that feature, I had seen the figure around but never for sale, now I really gotta have one
i am a year late as of responding to this but yea i have this same figurine that comes with his lightsaber, detachable hood and cloth like robe.
it was limited edition so hasbro no longer makes it but i plan on keeping mine for as long as possible it could sell for alot to a conisseur lol
that an also have a limited edition General Grievous in his Kaleesh warlord form which also has detachable pieces to wear you can see what he looks like fully with no mask an what his hair woulda looked like
From all that I remember from Kreia, she described him as a Wound in the Force, or maybe malignant cancer? Either way, with something summarizing him like that and how he just keeps "eating" i figured him just this literal *_V O I D_* in barely contained human form, which would make sense why he'd be more powerful than Sidious.
I mean, being a literal black hole in human form capable of draining entire planets just by being nearby and _still_ be hungry to keep going's enough to say you're better than some dude who can cast super thunder in movies and cast super magic storms in Legends?
technically, nihilus himself was not all that powerful. but power did not matter when your enemy could murder you passively by being in the same space as you. against the exile, who was immune to his particular condition; nihilus fell like a sandcastle at high tide.
@@jacobmiller6289 hence why I was calling him a literal void in barely contained human form. It's not really his controlled powers that made him powerful, it's the fact he could just be in the same sector and you'd get soul sucked.
It sounds like the inception theme song slowed down in the background. Impressive you got it past the filter
Would love to see a deep dive into Jedi Master Belth Allusis... but I don't think there's enough material for that yet.
I don't know if there's enough material for a whole video each, but what about some on the characters from the Old Republic Era like Darth Marr, Darth Thanaton, and/or Darth Jadus from the Empire for example
Nihilus and Vitiate both seem to be raw force potential waaaaay off the charts. Vitiate was emperor of an army of Sith including other dark lords who were badass af. Palpatine is tactically the best, but his rule was kinda weak though.
20 years Vitiate was around for 1500 years, he's the energizer bunny of Sith he just kept going, and going, and going...
I wish Disney would do movies or a series set in the Old Republic era, or even earlier. The origins of different species in the galaxy far far away would be interesting to see.
Nihilus was more like an empty husk controlled by the Dark Side though...
Could you do a video like this on Lord Scourge? Feel like not enough is covered on one of my favorite characters
Love to see this as well!! Nice suggestion!!
I would like to see mother housing and the other night sisters? Love your video's GG
Great video !
Interesting fact this force heal that drains life was also used in the Jedi Outcast series an old game that was focused on Kyle Katarn 😁
There's a lot of people on Reddit who would STRONGLY disagree with you.
I don't go either way, but you should have a look.
I wish we got a movie on dart nihlis
4:39 you forget Gaelen Marak. He moved an imperial star destroyer with telekinesis.
nihilus pulled the ravager and an entire fleet that were mere wrecks held together by his sheer power. What starkiller did was like nothing special compared with nihilus power.
if They ever wanted to make Star Wars horror movie, it would be KOTOR 1 and 2 times with this Chad Sith Lord as a main Jump Scare :o
Nihilus is my fav ever since I played KOTOR 2 on my og xbox as a kid
Exceptional lore video thankyou very much (:
I've always thought of darth nihilus as the most powerful and terrify sith ever. More powerful in terms of sheer raw force power than sideous and more brutal and menacing than darth vader.
Nihilus was in a completely different league compared to Sidious and Vader. When you are a wound in the force like Nihilus was it means that your connection with the force is at 100% ( basically you are one with the force itself ). Sidious and Vader were extremely powerful sith lords .... but nowhere near Nihilus raw power.
I think Vitiate holds that title
It seems that Darth Nihilus was the so called Force God that Darth Veciate Was hoping to become with all of these abilities. In his own twisted way he became something of the Sith Ari.
Vitiate is more powerful than nihilus so that doesn't make sense
Vitiate is so overated.
Already added to my "Force and Physicality" Playlist
I’d love to see a video like this about Malgus.
kinda funny how the strongest siths had the shortest reign during pre and post mandolorian war era and surrounded with betrayal alot
It's not a question of "who was stronger".
Nihilus was written as an average Sith, but who happened to develop a particularly deadly and unavoidable ability.
Nihilus is NOT powerful, masterful, knowledgeable or cunning. He is in fact pretty weak overall.
What makes him dangerous is his tremendous connection to the force, being a literal bottomless sink collecting force energy. That's what allows him to hold a battleship together, and that's why he craves the force energy of all who live.
It's a simple characteristic, and the only relevant way to counter that terrifying ability was to make him try to feed on a wound himself, which resulted in him transfering his force energy to the force wound he tried to feed upon. What remained after this move was a shadow easily defeated by a pretty average jedi in terms of power, Meetra Surik.
Well, that was the relevant way in terms of proper writting, the one that was envisioned when he was designed... Let's ignore the idiotic addendums exonerating X,Y and Z characters for some reasons, just because fanboys and fangirls were outraged at the thought that their beloved favorite character could be killed by a simple plot device such as Nihilus' feeding.
Yes, Nihilus' force drain was written to be universally unavoidable except when interacting with force wounds. Like it or not, it was written this way and it was what made the character actually relevant to KotOR II's plot and overarching philosophy and deconstruction of the force concept. And yes, it means that when he was designed, he could theoretically kill anyone he sensed, who was in range, and who wasn't a force wound.
The biggest problem is for sidious the strongest sith
People say he is universal in power
Serious people
Yet if he was even planetary powerful with force storms and all
Or had the power to control the minds of millions of not billions
Then it begs the question why didn’t he control teh galatic senate or need to build the Death Star
Basically I hate to break it if people say siduous is the most powerful sith meaning more powerful than nihilus he would have done better
The simplistic explanation to why nihilus can destroy worlds is because there is a drawback to force drain
Taht would explain why palptine never did it
And emperor visiate needs rituals and force users to syphon his focus
Basically when it comes down to power you can’t simply say one is powerful in Star Wars
As the line gets blurry
nomi sunrider also can strip your force ability completely
This guy literally ATE a freaking planet.
A. PLANET. OF JEDI.
People who think Vader could stomp this guy, holy shit that makes me laugh
Darth Sidious is the most powerful Sith ever, that's just a fact. He literally took on the two most powerful Jedi ever. Nihilus is certainly one of a few likely in the same area of power though along with Emperor Vitiate, Exar Kun, Darth Revan, and possibly Dartj Plaguies (based off the fact Sidious was to afraid to face Plaguies in open combat back around TPM). Darth Sidious ability with force lightning alone is insane; he literally destroyed almost a fleet of ships. He was the best Sith duelist ever as well by the time of ROTS, though perhaps Vader became a better duelist then him by TROTJ.
The thing about GL’a statement about siduous being the most powerful sith in history has to do with the fact he had power over the galaxy as he ruled it
Not that he was force power wise more powerful than every sith before him in the force but he is the only one in a sense of power gained control of the entire galaxy
That’s what GL means
As he said the Jedi of the prequel era were a threat to sidious and siduous couldn’t destroy a planet or control minds of an entire planet because if he could he wouldn’t need order 66 decades of planing or the death star
If he was force powerful wise just as strong as the past sith who could
It’s even clear the ancient sith are more powerful force wise
But their power didn’t get them control of the entire galaxy
But sidious has the potential to be on their level if he learns their secrets which in dark empire he does
But before dark empire he wasn’t on their level
Nihilus has cat ears
Darth Nihilus didn't become the Senate though :)
Not yet.
He ate the Senate.
didn't need to, he just ate them.
If anyone wants to chime in, I’ve got a question. Why would a Sith Lord like Niihilus bother with saber combat? His particular power set made using a lightsaber against him seem pointless. He can basically suck the soul out of you just by merely being near you. He can essentially kill you with a thought. That’s not something a saber can defend you against. A saber won’t help you against Nihilus’ deadly voice either. Doesn’t seem like Nihilus would have enough experience with saber combat to be any good at it.
He was slowly rotting into the dark side of the force. The insatiable hunger for force energy was terrifying. Definitely the scariest Sith of all time. Like a Sith vampire.
Darth nihlus is my fav character and you just made me like him even more you are a great at what you do keep it up
The Sith's answer to John "Earthquake" Tenta. Darth Nihilus was a walking natural disaster, but on a grander scale.
Galactu- I mean Darth Nihilus *HUNGERS!*
Love to hear about Darth Traya or Lord Scourge!!
Everybody gansta' till Nihilus is hungry
I want Disney to do a series about Nihilus. Also Revan and Malak.
In terms of lightsaber combat, Lord Sidious absolutely CRUSHES Lord Nihilus 100% of the time.
That being said however, if (and I stress the word IF) Lord Nihilus is able to use his Force Drain ability (I think that's what it's called) then Lord Sidious would be dead before he even had a chance to kiss his own Sith ass goodbye.
Which in my opinion makes Lord Nihilus one of only two Sith Lords who could defeat and kill Lord Sidious, the other OBVIOUSLY being Lord Vitiate. And a fight between Lord Sidious and Lord Vitiate would essentially break down like this: a normal battle ensues, Lord Vitiate toys with Lord Sidious, then finishes the match...I mean fight...with the Sith Spine Buster, followed by the Sith Bottom, followed by the Sith Elbow. Then of course killing Lord Sidious. Finally ending with Lord Vitiate looking out of the Chancellor's Office at the Corusant skyline, raising one eyebrow, and saying: "if you smell-l-l-l-l-l what Emperor Vitiate is cooking".
Now regarding Lord Nihilus against either Lord Sidious OR Lord Vitiate, the ONLY way Lord Nihilus would know he's been in a fight would be if Lord Vitiate used his own Force Powers against Lord Nihilus.
Note how I DIDN'T include Lord Sidious, and that's simply because as powerful as Lord Sidious was in the Force, both Lord Vitiate and Lord Nihilus would OBLITERATE Lord Sidious.
If Lord Vitiate somehow managed to prevent Lord Nihilus from using his Force Drain ability, then it would be an even 50-50 match-up.
However, IF Lord Nihilus was able to use his Force Drain ability then, just EXACTLY like Lord Sidious, Lord Vitiate wouldn't even have enough time to bend over and kiss his own Sith ass goodbye.
Just my own personal opinion anyway.
I got it don't know why I didn't think of him earlier Revan could literally cut through ALL of the Modern Day so called Sith basically kill his way right up to Palpy and well... really mess his stuff up.
Legends Sidious is maybe stronger than revan
Ah Darth Nihilus…one of my favorite Sith!
Euhm just saying that it wasn’t Darth Reven who set off the mass shadow generator, but Meetra Surik (better known as the Jedi exile).
Darth trea abiloth the father brother and sister the wills some of original jedu members maybe. Some original sith species maybe. Ummm jus thinking of few I'd find interesting idk if uve done this style video for any of them or not tbh but I did enjoy this video and the way u did it a fair amount more then your normal content which is really good and I also enjoy. Jus my thoughts. Hope u see this and all is well
Great video and easily my favourite with lord
Oh it's easy for Sith to use the light side to heal. It's basically "the force" version of skipping out on a hospital bill. I think it's called "force deadbeat."
He basically was the Grim Reaper of the Star Wars universe in his time
he might be the coolest sith ever. he needs a movie or a show all his own. also, correct me if im wrong, but wasnt is body also technically none corporeal? Like, he was more a dark shadow then a physical entity...??
Possibly the best Sith Lord ever conceived. Absolute awesomeness incarnate.
I’d really like to see some movies or something that show us how Siths like Nihilus were absolute monstrosities in the galaxy. I wonder if a wound in the force could take Abeloth.
Abeloth was defeated by Luke ... and Luke was not a wound in the force. Nihilus was a wound in the force. When you are a wound in the force you are literally one with the force itself ( you can´t get more powerful than that since you are at 100% connection to the force itself ) .... Nihilus would have had Abeloth for breakfast and still had room for Vitiate
@@blackmondayy1 good to know.
A my opinion Darth nihilus may have started out as a dark lord of the Sith but towards the end was more akin to a dark force of nature. All but Unstoppable all-consuming, and I don't believe he is truly dead as long as his mask and robes remain there's a chance for him to possess another living body and come back. I wish they would do a Darth Nihilus storyline in Canon
I just realized mitochondria and midochlorians are 2 different things
Yeah, Palpatine was powerful but definitely it at the level other the top tier Sith Lords. But what made Palpatine dangerous was that he was much more political and strategic. He played the king game of subterfuge and brought down both the Republic and the Jedi.
Legends Palpatine>Nihilus
Darth Sidious: I’m gonna destroy a planet with my Death Star!!!
Darth Nihilus: oh you meant that planet?! Oops I ate it…
One eats planets the other got picked up and tossed in a hole
Awesome Vid
These scales and feats are suppose to compliment the Jedi who oppose them or have done similar things
Bane killed the man and his son to fight off Githanys poison. So he did use the same ability as Nihlus. Their fear helped him stave off effects of poison.
Considering the info this guy gives us about darts nihilus’s telekinesis abilities brings me to believe he’s a literal cannon starkiller
Well he's in Legends not Canon I think
If someone ever makes a live action standalone movie or TV series of this terrifying sith lord,it must be good enough to do justice for him in legends otherwise,it's gonna be met with a great amount of criticism and potentially dislike
Who was the last Sith that the Jedi knew of 1,000 years before the Phantom Menace?
Both sides could only retain or find 10 or so. If a Jedi found a new temple the were told. And then the sith could find a new temple.
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Wow, Darth Nihilus was a total badass. With all of his abilities and share power, I wonder how a battle him between Palpatine would go down.
unless palpatine had some way to neutralize nihilus's draining, he's losing. putting a powerful force user like palpatine against nihilus is literally like trying to use a gas can to put out a fire. you're just feeding him more fuel.
@@jacobmiller6289 true.
But after so many wars over the temples lives lost. The Jedi and and Sith stopped attacking each other's temples so both sides could survive.
For real though, I've thought this since forever.
Also did you know that? with the mask or the robs just of itself if someone else puts it on its just going to gain more power. To also let you know. If you take the mask or the robes off it can basically Force grab the entire physical body life drain of the person completely
Palpatine can only handle so much out of a time because he's still physical though has the wise mind. Though Nihilus doesn't get tired. Though Palpatine still learns
Search your feelings lord nihilus...
There is a gr8 disturbance in the force.
Go and suck all force present in the jedi
why the fuck do you gotta type like that man
I think you guys are very wrong on sense of his lightsaber skills he was trained in all old sith forms and was a master of all of them he also did fight with both hands but mainly one hand. He was also the most powerful sith and most terrying at the time to ever exist as he couldn't be killed by any physical lighsaber attack as he was a physical entity feeding of living force to stay physical in a spiritual way and red force lightening is the most power form a sith can use and he wielded it the only reason he was defeated was because he met another wound in the force Meetra Surik just like him and force drain doesn't work on a wound in the force he was also weaker at that point but beat meetra surik in the original fight but it kept going and eventually nihilus faded because he couldn't feed hence why trays set that trap because she knew if he didn't fall for it, it meant extinction of jedi and sith that's how terrifying nihilus was even sidious years later feared him
I wonder, i know that nihilus wants to eat all the energy of the universe, but i wonder if he knows that if he did that he would basically have nothing to feed on at somepoint and he would starve, but i do agree the he is way more powerfull then sideous
Ancient sith lords are powerfull and i find them too intrinesting sorry for my bad english dark healing now that is new to me i know about force healing i mean light side variant
He would be the Perfect character for a Sttar Wars Horror Movie or series rated R tho 😈
Man hit new game plus and kept going.
When I battled him in KOTOoR 2 I dropped him under a minute. Sion was a tougher challenge
Question: Why didn't Darth Nihilus feed on planets like geonosian or nahboo, they have a high population so wouldn't it make sense for him to feed on them kind of planets?
I think it more of a fast pace type cause the force was eating him away so he needed to go to the nearest planet
While Sidious ' fan Boys see him as the most powerful... there are other sith that had far greater abilities. Not to take anything away from Palpatine... he was powerful... but an older Vader took him out in a way some others would not have suffered. Even Vader surpassed Sidious (while still in his prime) and killed him in hand to hand combat. That is very impressive.
Sidious was not the most powerful... yet still very impressive!
Sidious was not the most powerful but vader was still weaker than him
Legends Sidious is stronger than Nihilus
So Nihilus was making other wounds by feeding? How many other Nihilus like characters do we have walking around
If Sidious was so powerful, y didn’t he use the force to destroy planets. Yet he built planet destroying machines. Sidious used weapons and Vitiate used rituals to drain/destroy life on a planetary scale. Darth Nihilus’s mere presence and hunger was enough to leech life where even multiple Jedi along with the 2 billion force sensitive Miralukas were present and couldn’t stop him.
vitiate (multiple planets)
Sidious kept it hidden that he was a sith. Destroying a planet might give that away and cause everyone to rise against the empire.
@@idontno0 thank you bro Sidious was smart enough to force manipulation 😂
He was busy making credits hahahah
Bruh in legends which nilahious exits in palp was so strong he could shock n destroy whole galaxies with force lightning let alone planets
Funny this showed up as I’m replaying KOTOR 2 for the 5th time lol
I think you forgot to mention that he can literally consume every life form on a planet
starkiller also moved a entire stardestroyer
Nice job detaling hes powers, and how scray he realy was... but here is my problem, when u have sith with this kind of power, how can enyone call Sidious the greatest Sith to ever live??( i dont blame u for this i blame Disny)
Darth Nihilus is my favorite.
Did Darth Vader use "Dark Rage"? Seems like a natural for him.
do one on jacen Solo/ Darth Cadeus
Basically, he's the Shang Tsung of Star Wars. 😂