This is the best you have ever done for all of us classic game show fans! That vault of yours is so full of rare gems! And more to come I hope very soon! Here's a ;) to you!
This was taped just after the original board's mechanism (it was the long-disused "Nighttime Concentration" board that had sat for 12 years in NBC's Fort Lee, New Jersey warehouse that went out to California ) had completely died. It was rebuilt with a faster and more reliable mechanism and one change came with it. The two "Bonus Number" cards replaced the two "Forfeit 1 Gift" cards; that marked the end of the Forfeits on every version of "Concentration" to come. They were considered pointless with the elimination of the gag prizes in this version. The daytime Concentration board was still in use when this version was about to start taping, because the NBC version with Bob Clayton was winding down in 30 Rockefeller Plaza. With the exception the trilon cards and a few parts shipped to Hollywood as spares for this version's board, it was scrapped after series ended. The prize board doors from the nighttime version had been shipped out to California and cut down as permanent prize boards on the Hollywood set. The desks are from the daytime Concentration set and were shipped to Hollywood immediately after the final show taped. They were refitted with the signal buttons and lights.
Fascinating stuff. I was hoping when Buzzr got G-T Concentration they'd air eps from the 1st season, so we could see (and hear) the old board mechanism at work. I'm curious if it was just as slow as the daytime one. But I'm still glad to see it again :)
That is substantially true, except there were not two boards at NBC. Just one. (Why would there be two?) The one that was used at the end of the NBC run in spring 1973 was shipped to California for the fall 1973 launch of the syndicated show.
Very early second season episode. The car model had changed to the updated 1974 Vega GT Hatchback, and the music was now played at the correct pitch (slowed down considerably for Season 1).
Interesting notes: #1 Jack Narz doesn't stand in between the contestants in this early episode. Wonder when that changed? #2. They should have left the Sony ECM-51 microphones in place, later versions used the gooseneck type. The ECM's esthetically look better for the time.
1. Not sure One other thing you might not have noticed was they installed buzzers on each contestant's podium. The podiums were from the old NBC version but not sure if they used the ones from the daytime or nighttime version. Also, didn't they use the board from the nighttime version because the other one was worn out?
The quality on this is AMAZING! I wonder what format this particular copy is from. I'm guessing that the studio masters are probably 2" quad. EDIT: Duh, given the head switching noise at the bottom, this is VHS. You are seeing what VHS is really capable of here.
Tell all your friends to get my TH-cam channel up for 1500 subscribers and then 2000 and so on and you'll see LOTS more of this classic show! - The Winker
+Wink Martindale doesn't NBC own the exclusive rights to this show? that's why CBS was never able to bring back an 1990s rendition of concentration because NBC wouldn't part with it so I heard.
Nice to see again. I would have liked to see an April Fools edition where Tom Kennedy (a.k.a. Jim Narz) hosted Concentration while Jack Narz hosted Name That Tune.
kenman923 i wonder, did the brothers themselves plan that stunt out, or was it a network thing? To have brothers hosting each other shows, a fun thing to do!
I hope Comcast-NBC/Universal brings back "Concentration," or allow FreeMantle Media to produce it for first-run syndication. The 30-piece puzzle board would work out again due to the better technology that is available now as opposed to what Alex Trebek worked with in the '80s "Classic Concentration." Also, the bonus round puzzles would be done differently: first trip for $10k; second trip for $25k & new car. And if time ran out and it's FreeMantle-produced....cue the "Losing Horns."
Unlike today, it would vary. Syndicated programming was "bicycled"---i.e., passed around. One market would see it days, weeks, or even months, before another market saw it.
@@christopherdunne7848 Depending on your city, syndicated game shows appeared on different stations, network or local were spread out on different days.
1. Thank you for sharing this! 2. I don't understand how there are so many comments about Sacco and Vanzetti, but not a single one about Sunrise at Campobello.
Likewise. It may have been a regional thing, perhaps, but I grew up in Massachusetts and I've known who Sacco and Vanzetti were since I was a child (they were from Braintree, Massachusetts). Sunrise At Campobello, though...had never heard of it in my life until this.
Beyond Excellent!!! Thanks! One curiosity about this episode is the production number... If the numbers went in order, they taped months instead weeks in advance... must have been very comfortable ratings-wise! I wonder if NBC regretted axing it... :D
I could be wrong, but I don't think this version ever taped at Television City (The ticket plug at the end of this episode would probably have directed you there if they had been taping there)... I think they probably just ported a cart with the other Goodson cues over to this studio... :)
Mark Schildberg I'm still leaning with Wink on this one... Concentration doesn't show up on the manifest of shows taped at CBS on the Television City portion of their site. Perhaps an old ticket will turn up... :)
@@ericsamuelson5656 Absolutely! Who the hell needs three to four hours of news, anyway? CBS rocks daytime with Let's Make A Deal and The Price Is Right.NBC and ABC should take note!!
Bravo. The rights reverted to NBC more than 30 years ago. Why do they keep sitting on one of the greatest game shows ever? Maybe they want a star attached to it like Jimmy Fallon with Password.
My dad was on this show when I was a kid prob around 1975-1979 his name was Mike felts if anybody can has a copy of this episode if you can contact me please!!! Thank you!!!
i would like to see all of the lost gambit episodes the orginal ones dating back to 1972 when it 1st began. along with all of the episode of the show you did also called headline chasers. the game shows that are on now are not worth watching,
Hmmm! When Johnny O was reading that prize copy about the Chevy Vega hatchback doing everything well, he made no mention of it rusting into a million pieces...lol
Dont know why but liked the sound the board made when the squares were turned....LOL...One question, saw here how when the constant picked a prize then got one of the WILD Cards, werent they supposed to show where the second prize was if correct, like for instance when she picked the Encyclopedia and then she also picked and found the wild card, thought that they were supopsed to show where the second encyclopedia was......
About Game #1, if I were the producer and since she didn't use the Bonus Number, I'd have given her a 10 second bonus for a total of 20 seconds to play the Double Play round.
I'm not sure if this ep featured the new and improved board mechanism or not. I know they originally used the one from the nighttime Downs version but had to replace it. The new mechanism was a lot faster. If you recall, the old board sounded like ye olde grocery doors that automatically opened when you walked in (from the 1960s & 70s)
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This is the best you have ever done for all of us classic game show fans! That vault of yours is so full of rare gems! And more to come I hope very soon! Here's a ;) to you!
I love how they used some of The Price is Right cues on this show. Great clarity too Wink. Thanks Wink!
The car music is also heard on The Price is right.
I loved how even here he uses the tagline from his other show "Now You See It!"
I noticed that too and Jack Narz looked right into the camera and slyly laughed. Lol.
@@lynettepalecek3141 subtle mistake 😊
How funny is it that for a time we only saw the first few minutes of this ep and now the Winker brings us the complete ep!
I swear Jack Narz’s hosting style is as comfy as a warm bath.
@Demitri Borozny He was retired by this point.Alex did well.
Thank you Wink! You are doing a fantastic job by sharing these wonderful shows! **Thumbs-up!**
Fantastic, Wink! I'm almost in tears of joy, so happy to see this again. Come on people, 500 more for another, hurry!
i like classic concentration nbc don,t have it anymore
This is such a blessing and an answer to prayer-thank you again, Wink! You continue to make many fans happy, and then some! :)
Wink, you rock!!!! Thanks for unearthing all these classics!!!
Nobody could describe prizes quite like Johnny Olson no matter what show it was(except Match Game)
So true! Guy was great..we were lucky to have these people..this was the real deal
Buzzr to get the 1974 version in the future, perhaps?
Yeah, because there were no actual prizes! Only cash.
Good news, this version of Concentration will be on Buzzr! It starts 3/30
That is not good news. I like Wink Martindale's posts better.
THANK YOU WINK!!! What a treasure you have found!
This was taped just after the original board's mechanism (it was the long-disused "Nighttime Concentration" board that had sat for 12 years in NBC's Fort Lee, New Jersey warehouse that went out to California ) had completely died. It was rebuilt with a faster and more reliable mechanism and one change came with it. The two "Bonus Number" cards replaced the two "Forfeit 1 Gift" cards; that marked the end of the Forfeits on every version of "Concentration" to come. They were considered pointless with the elimination of the gag prizes in this version. The daytime Concentration board was still in use when this version was about to start taping, because the NBC version with Bob Clayton was winding down in 30 Rockefeller Plaza. With the exception the trilon cards and a few parts shipped to Hollywood as spares for this version's board, it was scrapped after series ended. The prize board doors from the nighttime version had been shipped out to California and cut down as permanent prize boards on the Hollywood set. The desks are from the daytime Concentration set and were shipped to Hollywood immediately after the final show taped. They were refitted with the signal buttons and lights.
Fascinating stuff. I was hoping when Buzzr got G-T Concentration they'd air eps from the 1st season, so we could see (and hear) the old board mechanism at work. I'm curious if it was just as slow as the daytime one.
But I'm still glad to see it again :)
That is substantially true, except there were not two boards at NBC. Just one. (Why would there be two?) The one that was used at the end of the NBC run in spring 1973 was shipped to California for the fall 1973 launch of the syndicated show.
Very cool stuff..love hearing this behind the scene info..thankxxx!!
I'm glad that the prize board was reused from the NBC version,with a little TLC.
@@sbphillips177 Aired Mid-Late 1974
This is such a fascinating piece of game show history you have. Thanks for sharing it with us. =)
This was VERY FUN TO WATCH!!! Thanks for posting it.;)
Thanks for sharing this, Wink. Besides the myriad shows with which you were involved, "Concentration" was always one of my faves!
Awesome to have another Narz Concentration episode. Thanks again Wink!
amazing show since i've only seen 2 episodes of the Syndicated series of this show :)
When I was 10 I got a concentration board game play those tiles over and over
thank you Wink for posting this.
Thank you Wink for posting this. Your posts are better than Buzzr's.
LOL!!! 0:55, gotta love Jack. "You a working girl?" :-)
Thank you so much Wink!
I like how Jack Narz said, "Now You See It" right there. He made a mistake but it was clean.
I don't think it was a mistake. It was a coy plug for his other show, also produced by Goodson-Todman.
@@ronflatter1235 AKA "OK Jack, I see what you did there." LOL
@@ronflatter1235 A legit nod to his other show on CBS at the time.
@rodney1279's Games and Chr.... It wasn't a mistake. Jack Narz looked slyly into the camera and laughed. Lol.
The recycled music is what I like here. TPiR and Tattletales represented here
Yeah I felt that too, 70’s era Price is Right did that too
1:31 "And Now You See It!"
Very early second season episode. The car model had changed to the updated 1974 Vega GT Hatchback, and the music was now played at the correct pitch (slowed down considerably for Season 1).
1:32 They use that a lot as a car cue on Price is Right.
Thanks Wink. I haven't seen it since I was 4.
She had Sunrise At Campobello,but just couldn't get it out loud enough,ohh!
Interesting notes:
#1 Jack Narz doesn't stand in between the contestants in this early episode. Wonder when that changed?
#2. They should have left the Sony ECM-51 microphones in place, later versions used the gooseneck type. The ECM's esthetically look better for the time.
1. Not sure
One other thing you might not have noticed was they installed buzzers on each contestant's podium. The podiums were from the old NBC version but not sure if they used the ones from the daytime or nighttime version. Also, didn't they use the board from the nighttime version because the other one was worn out?
ty for uploading this this is awesome
omg Wink a FULL Episode on Concentration
You rock!
The quality on this is AMAZING! I wonder what format this particular copy is from. I'm guessing that the studio masters are probably 2" quad. EDIT: Duh, given the head switching noise at the bottom, this is VHS. You are seeing what VHS is really capable of here.
Thanks Wink for posting this- there isn't many copies of Concentration from this timeframe (1974)
Tell all your friends to get my TH-cam channel up for 1500 subscribers and then 2000 and so on and you'll see LOTS more of this classic show! - The Winker
+Wink Martindale doesn't NBC own the exclusive rights to this show? that's why CBS was never able to bring back an 1990s rendition of concentration because NBC wouldn't part with it so I heard.
Nice!
In this age of internet, I forgot what an Encyclopedia looks like.
In her defense, I've never heard of Sacco & Vanzetti either....
Thanks, Wink!
My all time favorite version next to Alex Trebek's Classic Concentration but with 25 number boxes
Nice to see again. I would have liked to see an April Fools edition where Tom Kennedy (a.k.a. Jim Narz) hosted Concentration while Jack Narz hosted Name That Tune.
kenman923 i wonder, did the brothers themselves plan that stunt out, or was it a network thing? To have brothers hosting each other shows, a fun thing to do!
How cool would it have been if Tom and Jack switched hosting duties(Tom was hosting Split Second and Name That Tune at the time).
There's a Vega on concentration too
Jim Victory Television also distributed Match Game PM.
And a number of MTM properties during the 1980s.
Good Video Johnny Olsen sounded like Rod Roddy when he was describing the car
You do realize, you got that backwards, Johnny O was around long before Rod
I hope Comcast-NBC/Universal brings back "Concentration," or allow FreeMantle Media to produce it for first-run syndication. The 30-piece puzzle board would work out again due to the better technology that is available now as opposed to what Alex Trebek worked with in the '80s "Classic Concentration." Also, the bonus round puzzles would be done differently: first trip for $10k; second trip for $25k & new car. And if time ran out and it's FreeMantle-produced....cue the "Losing Horns."
This version was taped at Metromedia Studios.
SOOOOOO very good to see this!
I love it -- Jack didn't know who Sacco and Vanzetti were, either. (And I had to Google it.)
Gene Davis It doesn't take even Dick Tracy to figure that one out.
And jack those are the first four starts
hey gsn. if your reviving split second. you should revive this show
IKR. But which version would you revive? Kennedy or Hall?
This was taped 6/27/74, when did it air I wonder?
Unlike today, it would vary. Syndicated programming was "bicycled"---i.e., passed around. One market would see it days, weeks, or even months, before another market saw it.
@@christopherdunne7848 Depending on your city, syndicated game shows appeared on different stations, network or local were spread out on different days.
1. Thank you for sharing this!
2. I don't understand how there are so many comments about Sacco and Vanzetti, but not a single one about Sunrise at Campobello.
As obscure as those were, I think I remember one during the run (Double Play round)---"The Brothers Karamazov" !!!
Likewise. It may have been a regional thing, perhaps, but I grew up in Massachusetts and I've known who Sacco and Vanzetti were since I was a child (they were from Braintree, Massachusetts). Sunrise At Campobello, though...had never heard of it in my life until this.
They didn't give enough time for her to get the answer.
Beautiful simplicity. Let's hope the next version of this doesn't try too hard and sticks with what works.
Beyond Excellent!!! Thanks! One curiosity about this episode is the production number... If the numbers went in order, they taped months instead weeks in advance... must have been very comfortable ratings-wise! I wonder if NBC regretted axing it... :D
If they didn't regret it, they should have. ;)
I could be wrong, but I don't think this version ever taped at Television City (The ticket plug at the end of this episode would probably have directed you there if they had been taping there)... I think they probably just ported a cart with the other Goodson cues over to this studio... :)
WREYtube I'm almost positive Jack taped his version at KTLA Channel 5 here in LA.
WREYtube This was taped on Stage 34 at CBS Television City, right next door to TPIR.
Mark Schildberg
I'm still leaning with Wink on this one... Concentration doesn't show up on the manifest of shows taped at CBS on the Television City portion of their site. Perhaps an old ticket will turn up... :)
Great puzzles for a great show!
sez: Hey, Winker... keep on rockin', my favorite HIIIIIIIIIIIGH ROLLER!!! ;)
Concentration deserves a comeback!
It needs an NBC network daytime reboot. All the Today show needs to do is cut down to 3 hours because 4 hours is way too long.
@@ericsamuelson5656 Absolutely! Who the hell needs three to four hours of news, anyway? CBS rocks daytime with Let's Make A Deal and The Price Is Right.NBC and ABC should take note!!
@@ericsamuelson5656 OMG! So agreed! We need to get back to when game shows ruled the morning.We only have Let's Make A Deal and The Price Is Right.
Bravo. The rights reverted to NBC more than 30 years ago. Why do they keep sitting on one of the greatest game shows ever? Maybe they want a star attached to it like Jimmy Fallon with Password.
I REALLY LIKE THIS PROGRAM
Burner bases and breakfronts were big on CBS game shows.
01:31 "...and NOW YOU SEE IT...!"
Wow! That's great!!!!
Interesting to see the changes/differences between this and Classic Concentration.
My dad was on this show when I was a kid prob around 1975-1979 his name was Mike felts if anybody can has a copy of this episode if you can contact me please!!! Thank you!!!
This probably this was taped @ CBS television City in Hollywood California.
This was actually filmed at the old Metromedia Square/Fox Broadcasting Center on Sunset Boulevard across the street from KTLA5.
The car cue... was it used on Concentration first, or on Price first?
Vega on stage. 🤪 🤣
The producers didn't really want her to win that car, did they? Sunrise At Campobello? LOL!
They’ve done worse than that....one Double Play puzzle was “The Brothers Karamazov.”
The show originally aired here in Buffalo on WIVB channel 4
Used to be WBEN-TV.
The Le Crueset cookware is really good stuff & very expensive.
i would like to see all of the lost gambit episodes the orginal ones dating back to 1972 when it 1st began. along with all of the episode of the show you did also called headline chasers. the game shows that are on now are not worth watching,
I believe the Jack Narz syndicated shows started in Sept 1973, where the top prize was a 1973 Chevy Vega, Do you have any of those episodes?
Too bad there isn't a Best Of DVD of this!
thank God for TH-cam
Wink, Do you have
"1975 Chuck's Wheel of fortune" ??
I want to watch this one.
Fantastic stuff!!! =D
Way to go Winker!
Odd disclaimer at 22:52!
Glad Sandwich bags. LOL!
2:03 IT'S A FREEZER
I guess Jack Narz must have been doing this show at the same time as "Now You See It".
Much like Dennis James was doing dual hosting gigs between Name That Tune daytime and Price Is Right nighttime.
And Bob Barker for daytime Price is Right and Truth or Consequences for prime time syndication
In fact, I just posted about the series airing in Cleveland. I discovered it just weeks after NYSI premiered.
Great! BTW, that wasn't a factory noise. The gameboard actually makes that sound.
The theme had part of now you see it and the price is right car cue
1:31; I wonder if Jack did that on purpose, since he was doing another show of that same name around that time.
had the same thought, Jack always did EVERYTHING on porpoise ;-)
Better Jim Victory than Viacom ijs. Great way to do a bonus round. I always thought the Trebek "Match a car" one was a bit tough imho
Yeah,and with the impossible 35 second clock to boot😩
Hmmm! When Johnny O was reading that prize copy about the Chevy Vega hatchback doing everything well, he made no mention of it rusting into a million pieces...lol
This is awesome wink
where does he say now you see it ?
will this be seen on Buzzr?
Yes, starting on March 30th.
March 30th, 2020
great
Dear god…one of the grand prizes…an awful Chevy Vega…yecchhh!
Yeah. Bic lighters lasted longer than Vega's
Dont know why but liked the sound the board made when the squares were turned....LOL...One question, saw here how when the constant picked a prize then got one of the WILD Cards, werent they supposed to show where the second prize was if correct, like for instance when she picked the Encyclopedia and then she also picked and found the wild card, thought that they were supopsed to show where the second encyclopedia was......
That rule didn’t come into effect until Classic Concentration with Alex Trebek
About Game #1, if I were the producer and since she didn't use the Bonus Number, I'd have given her a 10 second bonus for a total of 20 seconds to play the Double Play round.
This was a daily show, meant to be a strip, actually. However, some stations only aired one episode a week!
Yup, some shows back then could be seen once, or up to five, times a week---hence the "see you next time"....
It was weekly in Cleveland during the 1973-74 season.
I noticed during game one, Jack was not standing between the contestants. Did he have his own podium at this time?
Nope
I'm glad Buzzr is running (the truly classic) Concentration, but why at 3 in the morning?
who knows? I just wish they aired other years like 1974
How did Mark Goodson acquire Concentration from Jack Barry?
Peter Moran He didn't. NBC brought the rights to the show after the quiz show scandal. Goodson-Todman just packaged this version and CC.
NBC licensed the rights to Concentration to Goodson-Todman for 20 years, from 1973-93.
so funny I thought WHY ARE THEY GIVING AWAY AN OLD CAR?! 2020
Sheryl did good. 😀👍
That board was so loud
I'm not sure if this ep featured the new and improved board mechanism or not. I know they originally used the one from the nighttime Downs version but had to replace it. The new mechanism was a lot faster.
If you recall, the old board sounded like ye olde grocery doors that automatically opened when you walked in (from the 1960s & 70s)
The sound of the tiles turning does sound annoying.
Was this the 344th episode of this version?
This production number points to the Thursday episode of the 34th week of taping (34-4).
tsskiller08 I don't know...considering the tape date, I'd be willing to bet this was indeed the 344th episode, and that it was from the second season.
tsskiller08 Sounds like precisely the same numbering scheme that Price is Right uses (except for the letter designations that TPIR uses also)