This is why companies should stop focusing so much on beauty. Now days fans expect their idols to look flawless instead of looking like normal human beings WHICH IS WHAT THEY ARE.
And korean articles should stop posting fake news about how korean idols are so poreless and glass skin when in fact it's not true! I've seen alot of korean people not having thr best skin as to what the media wants to portray their people there.. they are sending bad message to people all over the world when in reality they have skin textures and acne like any other humans. And having skin texture is not a bad thing cause our skin needs to breath but the fantasizing something unbelievable and untrue should stop🤦♀️
exactly! They're idols and they should focus on their music, not pleasing others' eyes. It's so annoying to see companies treating idols like dolls that need to be perfectly manufactured rather than treating them like humans. NingNing's case made me very upset at how people are so quick to bodyshame. They should be focusing on their idol's music and their talents rather than how they look. Everyone has their own beauty standards and just because someone doesn't fit the stereotypical standard doesn't make them any less precious. All idols are hardworking and went through a lot to reach where they are now. So respect and love everyone and stop bodyshaming.
Same with actions and habits,.they shouldn't even be angry or sad because fans get so overly analytical forgetting they too have bad days. Same with stuff like smoking or accessions f bomb ,yes it's bad and yes they promote to kids but it isn't the end of the world . In fact the more human and genuine they are the closer they feel it feels way more genuine and just makes you love them more . This is why people love when idols make darker songs about actual problems and feelings they encountered or fight like every other person
Companies are going to stop focusing on beauty when fans stop. Their obsession with "visuals" is ridiculous, it's silly that they like idols just because they fit their definition of "pretty".
As they are idols i agree they should take care of skin but the visual madness is just increasing. Now a days people only care about visuals not about their dancing or vocals or even composing, producing skills. Only visuals are cared by the public. No matter how good their talents are if they dont suit their taste so much hate. I do agree a bit importance should be given to visuals but it should never overshadow their skills.
This reminded me with Jihyo during sixteen. The photographer didn't want to put Jihyo in the Major group because she looks fat. I was completely shock because she literally look fine and even had good facial expression. People should really stop making unrealistic standards. We should start putting on clothes that fit our body rather than changing our body to fit clothes.
Everytime i see jihyo she has amazing expressions in fancams. I agree she isnt best dancer in twice but her expressions are amazing. She trained as actress for few years. Maybe that helped. Jihyo was never fat. Its just korean standards for women are way to skinny. They should remember they are girls not barbie dolls. Jihyo has nice visuals and amazing voice. She deserved to be in the major.
They're idols and they should focus on their music, not pleasing others' eyes. It's so annoying to see companies treating idols like dolls that need to be perfectly manufactured rather than treating them like humans. NingNing's case made me very upset at how people are so quick to body shame. They should be focusing on their idol's music and their talents rather than how they look. Everyone has their own beauty standards and just because someone doesn't fit the stereotypical standard doesn't make them any less precious. All idols are hardworking and went through a lot to reach where they are now. So respect and love everyone and stop body-shaming.
how could u expect idols to focus on their music? considering 99.9% of idols cant properly sing, nor have they ever studied any music theory, also they probably cant even read a stave nor understand the music their companies provide to them. idols are nothing more than massive produced merchandise, most of their selling points are faces and bodies, that's why kpop fans criticize their looks so much.
Ning ning has amazing vocals.i never understood why she got hate in first place. Yeah she might be chinese. But if they hate chinese so much why take chinese idols in first place. Ofcourse they want to expand to get more money. But they cant the idols properly. They say u are making money bcoz of korea they forget the companies are making more money by international audiences.they get that money bcoz of that foreign memeber but they dont care to protect them from hate.
@@namingshard17 until 2nd generation idols are picked for their talents after the "visual" place became more popular the companies cared about idols visual rather than skills.
@@Daisy999 the real reason behind this was, it was easier to find or "produce" idols with good visuals, but a lot harder to find artists with true talents. also mass produced idols cost less and more profitable for companies
Nope. If they just focus on music they can be singer not idol. But agency rarely debuting singer. Just stop being delusion all of idols can sing/dance/rap in same time. There a reason why in kpop group have "position". Main vocal, mean he/she has best vocal among the other member. Then we have main dancer/main rapper/visual. If your bias is visual, then don't expect too much for their vocal. I am agree, even idols has "visual" position, they also can be vocalst/rapper but not the main. If idols just focus on music why trainees in survival show can't debut? Even the judge praised their vocal? Why agency not recruit them? Why someone like minyoung (sorry i am not sure her name but she in jyp sixteen) who have great vocal not choose by jyp??? The reason just she not good enough for "her look", and jyp already pick jihyo. But the strange thing, people still complain twice's singing ability, meanwhile they are pick the member, and kick someone like minyoung.
I think people were surprised to see that Jennie wasn't as "slim thick" as people praised her to be because her "stomach was sticking out" and her butt was flat. Like maybe we shouldn't hold these humans to such high standards of aesthetic perfection because it's detrimental both to fans AND the idol.
adding onto the person who said they don't understand calling jennie slim thick: literally no kpop idol is slim thick , barring maybe hwasa a while back , but even then she's more on the slim side than the thick one these days. what most people call slim thick on kpop idols is either hip pads or a slim idol with wide hips and a defined waist. i don't get why people use the term so incorrectly ain't a single kpop idol that's thick let's be honest
Seriously, people who are busy with this really have no idea what 'fat' really is... All these idols are still SKINNY. they are healthy and just living their life. I'm getting so sick of people judging all the time. We all know how pictures work and how angles etc influence. Pfff
ikr?everyone do that to make their belly smaller but mostly just in front of camera or of a crowd not when their having fun and just want to relaxed,tucking in their tummy is a little bit exhausting
Also another thing to note, if someone has a flatter stomach and a uterus most of the time the little lower “belly pouch” thing is just the protective layer of the skin over the uterus.
exactly! I'm not a fan of aespa music but ningning is absolutely beautiful (like everyone else in this video...those who criticize them must live really empty lives)
Jisoo and Marie Claire was just not it. Not only the neck buy the whitewash. Her natural skin tone was sooooomuch better but the whitewash made her look dead-pale ngl
It is quite common that all the celebrity photos that are taken by the paparazzi and knetz are highly edited and photoshop to make idols look better... While some are not that obvious some people do go overboard with either whitewashing the idols or making their appearance very slim... Idk why people get shocked when they find out that their idol's pic is photoshopped and get mad at the idols for it... Nothing you see on social media you see is 100% real and people should stop critizing how others look and focus more on their health and well-being because at the end of the they are just profit makers for their company and you yourself are creator of your life
Although Jisoo doesn’t have the perfect body proportions and isn’t as slim as the other members, she’s perfect the way she is. Also, the right angles can do wonders. Please don’t come for Jisoo, my girl is perfect and beautiful just the way she is.
I can't believe jennie got hate because she bloated. People really think of idols like some sort of machines and not actuall people, damn. She wasn't even that bloated, yall should see me after eating lmao
they are ignorant 🙄 but they can completely be blame. Is the kpop industry that keep pushing that unrealistic image. They advertise idols as perfect with no flaws. When in fact the are just human like the rest of us.
She's not bloated it's her natural body people body looks different from different angles. I have said before that her waist isn't that small from side angle but people overhype her of having a small waist and start comparison with Lisa and Rosé. But people should never or bodyshamed her cuz her body is perfect as it's.
@@flymetotheup9904 no honey, she is bloated. There are literally other pictures and videos with her normal body. And jennie said before that she bloats even by only drinking water. And what dym her waist doesn't look as "small" from the sides. LMAOOO😭. You can't see the waist from the sides?!?!?!?! I-😂😂 I sense a little bit of bitterness here. And don't speak on a woman's body if you don't know sht. Both Rosé, Lisa and all the women in this world bloat too. I can't believe I have to say this
@@notyourdays she might be bloated but her waist isn't *THAT* small from side and y'all need to open your eyes and stop overhyping her body in superficial way. Don't you know what sides body profile is? So you can clearly see or you're just blind. My comment is facts but you got defensive and misinterpreted my words. Nice try, y'all are talking about her body hypocrite not just me. I said she's human and perfect the way she's. You just completely ignored my last comment defending her but getting defensive with me talking about the truth. So what if she have small waist or thick waist she's human.
Jisoo and Jennie are so beautiful like wtf these Korean beauty standards are so bad btw to be honest the girls who are known for their beauty in k beauty standards are not so pretty in my opinion they are so extremely slim they look like skeletons they need to stop their unrealistic diet because it is clearly affecting their health ❤️🙏😭
"korean beuty standards" but in jennie's case wasn't koreans who picked on her, I bet they don't even know about the situation. It was international roaches who were bodyshaming her just for breathing
It's Korea's Beauty Standards, so unless you are from there, then you have no say so. And calling other Idols not good-looking and skinny is just so wrong. BTW, have you ever seen Jisoo and Jennie in person? I can tell you right now that they are as slim as other Idols if not slimmer. It's their world that they chose to be in (KPOP), and they knew exactly what they were getting into. Whatever the case may be, they are all beautiful in one way or another.
@@annfrancis2406 I didn’t mean to be rude I am just saying that these standards make idols follow very strict diets which is unhealthy considering how much work they have to do which eventually causes idols to faint I have seen many cases like this and yes jisoo and jennie have lost weight recently but the main reason are these standards and it’s not the idols who should adjust to these disgusting standards but kpop itself and the companies should change their style since kpop is becoming international more
Jennie being classified as slim thick … hmmmmm, yeah let’s skip that, but photoshopping isn’t new after all, i know some people say that it’s nice to know cause makes you feel better about yourself but I’m in the point of knowing but still wanting to be exactly the photo even if it’s impossible, I’m just f*cked I guess. Also I don’t know if it’s exactly only the publics fault here, the standards are built by media and they can promote what is good and what’s not, just takes a good marketing team, as the consumer is so enthralled on the standards that when it falls flat the person is like WHAT? Of course we need to question what we consume and what we think is beautiful but in the end it seems like a battle we can’t win after all, but we can try I guess
Because it is slim thick for asian and eastern white women who are generally have more fragile body and thin bones structure compared to black, latinas ans whites from the west. Women from that regions rarely have visible curves so having some breast and hips being slim is considered slim thick. Don't compare it to the west where people generally bigger
@SM exactly people are quick to forget that sometimes female idols are made to undergo breast augmentation or just wear padded bras and butt pads to appear curvy when they are usually skinny
I've seen Jennie in person in airport in Japan before she's so small ordinary looking asian girl, her face is so cuteee btw...but Rose is stunning in person.
The companies focus on the idols faces, height and not on their skills and talents like singing,rapping and dancing. Now other idols stop to sing and dance. The idols now focusing in brandings. That is why KPOP INDUSTRY struggles.
Everyone is perfect in their own way Not just irene or just kpop idols. Its everyone. Its fine u might consider someome beautiful among a group but noone has right to call others ugly or not good enough. Picking flaws in the idols is what making them to be photoshoped to met fans standards. Cant we remove these standards of beauty from our head. we find flowers beautiful. They arent same. Every flower is different. But noome judges hope this flower has long petals. No right? We just appreciate what they are for? But why cant we appreciate for our fellow humans?
@@Daisy999 ok so i didn't said anybody is ugly and if you know the beauty standards of k-pop then you should that Irene is perfect in it . And thank you for putting your opinion infront of me i also think the same option.
In my opinion, photoshop cant be controled, companies, fansites and media outlets do it all the time no matter if the idol doesnt want it. In photoshop and selfie apps, the idols face and body are edited and whitewashed to be even more on the korean beauty standard. Many idols say they hate apps like sn0w but they have to edit their selfies the way the company desires. The styling as well create multiple illusions. Shorter clothing to create longer vertical line, insoles, padding. Sometimes the idol is on the korean beauty standard, but the stylist dresses them in outfits that arent for their body shape, making them look boxy, bloated and messy.
I think people forget that some of these idols don't manage their social media accounts and may have others posting for them. It's not like they also have time to edit their photos.
What happened to jennie also happened to me, I'm skinny and have flat stomach but when I eat is not more flat, my friends used to point on my belly because of that ...
Jennie is perfect and people who are comparing should know that no one is perfect and stop body shaming.... Haters are incesure themselves and talking about other people is the only thing happening in they're life... Idols work hard and have decipline but haters sit infront of a screen and hate on people
Ningning is smaller than Giselle. 5:57 In this picture, Giselle has the widest waist and the widest neck and same with thighs. The most petite body is Winter, then its Karina, then Ningning and Giselle being the girl ranked as the widest body in Aespa.
Yeah that's true but ningning is being mentioned here because her fansite edited her photos which the netizens found to be different than the original pics this portraying a different image Giselle's fansites were always clear and true to Giselle's image
@@rineng4127 No. That's just an excuse. Koreans have been on her back since debut about her body but they don't say shit about Giselle. They just despise the fact she's Chinese and will do anything to bring her down.
@@sadhourstwentyfourseven9578 this is so true. I'm not an aespa fan but i heard all the controversies and the way knetz pick on her just for breathing made me realize how much they hate chineze people. I never staned a chineze idol before or a group with one so i never knew, let me very surprised and also wondering where is the hate comming from. Any ideas?
@@notyourdays Let's just that the relationship between Japan, China and Korea is a whole... can of worms that traces back to history. Koreans dislike Japaneses because of what they did to them back in the WWII (look up Korean comfort women just for one example), and they hate the Chinese because of things of waaaaay back, but mostly recented became heated due to many Chinese people's comments that many aspects of Korean culture like Hanbok belong to the Chinese, that Kimchi is Chinese or that Korea was a part of China, etc... And it caused a lot of animosity that had settled down a bit. I won't say Korea is 100% victims, but they generalize the Chinese a LOT when a lot of the faults lay on China's disgusting government. There's a reason Everglow isn't that popular, why Chinese idols just aren't that popular in Korea and they just go back to China eventually. (Pretty all of EXO's Chinese line even Lay, Victoria Song, Jia and Fei, Cheng Xiao, etc.). The only I know who got a pass is Yuqi from IDLE. Why? Because she's considered 'more Korean than Koreans'.
I agree, though I'm not a fan but ningning's case was so sad. It's her body and she decides how to maintain it, no one has the right to body shame her. She's beautiful in her own way
that thing about Ningning. remember during an interview where they were asked who loves to search for their name online, everyone pointed at Ningning and she agreed bcos whenever she has time during the day, she said that she search hearself "Aespa Ningning" etc. Imagine what she'll see.
Tbh I don't know why ningning got so much hate about her thighs when Giselle was much more chubby but Giselle is tall but ningning is small and not fat I don't see a problem with her figure
It’s kind concern how people seem to not know how the human body works. Like, come on you basically wake up and go to sleep knowing that when you got up from your bed your body looks completely different from the way you went to sleep, and when you eat or drink is the same thing your belly gets bigger. It’s kind mind blowing to me how some people think that celebrity are not like any normal human being, their bodies are just like any other
This makes me so sad, these girls are stunningly beautiful. There is nothing “ wrong “ with them. I think people want a fantasy something utterly unreal and it will never be enough. The standard of beauty that netizens demand is a perfection that is not possible and it’s sad to see these beautiful idols fall prey to those standards.
People are so much interested in idols bodies as If that's gonna make them successful in life. Agencies should stop focusing on idols beauty and the expectations of fans for idols are increasing.
In my opinion, Photoshop the body and skin texture should be forbidden in magazine pictures, they should use some editing only on lightning and other stuff. I hate Dance the night away photoshoot ( the one in the morning) because all the 9 girls looks completely different, they look more like a Barbie doll.
PPL REACTIONS ARE DEFFIRENT AND IT DEPENDS ON THE IDOL LIKE NINGNING AND GISELLE RECEIVED TONS OF HATE IN THEIR DEBUT JUST FOR LOOKING A BIT CHUBBY WHILE JIWOO OF NMIXX IS THICKER THAN THEM AND NO ONE TALKED ABOUT IT EVEN IN COUNTRY LIKE KOREA
Actually, netizents already talked about jiwoo, saying things like "she doesn't look like and idol" and "she needs to diet" "she's so fat how can she even debut" "her thighs are so big🤮". Every single time an idol seems to gain weight Korean fans star talking about thee body so it doesn't really depends on the idol. Kfans have talked about mashiro and chaehyun (Kepler), Nancy (momoland) even when they weren't that chubby
@@bubbles5218 that's the problem. People body shame others so easily as if idols are not humans. Idk why they focus so much on visuals when they are artists and not manufactured dolls.
nmixx members minus sullyoon all received soo much hate.. they literally said except sullyoon nobody actually looked like an idol in that grp.. they all looked like back up dancers etc etc.
It's the companies fault for promoting perfect standard body beauty on their artists when in fact they r not. Idols r performers they need muscles to be able to dance but they r dragged for a bit of weight on their legs because of photoshoped pictures of them. Now an seeing an alarming tendency on gg idols with almost no legs curve,no substance,its like matches or baguette and they do not by exercises but by ps, they inject poison to reduce and contract their muscles!!! In Korea u can remove some ribs to affinate your waist!!! U can remove 6 ribs and that what somi did,that's what they r doing to have that slim figure. It's no more their noses and chins now they r doing work on their bodies too. No one care about it because their fan support them even tho it is dangerous,extremely dangerous
Ofc Jennie's belly wouldn't look as flat as the videos. That is called being bloated 💀 She probably took those photos before the event, and she may have eaten something that caused her to be bloated or smth
I care about my looks but this society considers every natural part of an girl's body disgusting I mean I just can't do this anymore we can't never be perfect to the society
Back in 2019 I spotted Mamamoo shooting for new music video here in HongKong. I’m stunned by their visual but they are much shorter than we see in screen.
It's so hard to say when it comes to retouching in kpop because artists are yoyo dieting all the time, so their weight is constantly fluctuating and they do look different for every stage. The problem isn't the photos, though. It's the standards they're trying and often failing to live up to because they're not machines and diets aren't consistently effective. Plus, the mixed messages of both their companies and fans and antis alike telling them to slim down and eat well and shaming them no matter what that really feeds into their need to participate in diet culture in the first place.
Jennie got hate for bloating, like it's a normal thing and I don't think that the photos of Jennie are Photoshopped cause I think the photos were before her eat and drinking and the video was after taking her meal
Kpop companies should know how to filter the netizens' comments on how they should look. Companies shouldn't 100% listen to what people said. They should make idols normal just the way they are, and people will gradually normalize that idols are human beings with flaws too 😌
Nothing new tbh. Everyone of us needs to retouch something when we post it on social media coz no one appreciates natural looks and figures especially this days.. this is honestly sad reality. Social media and society will make you feel bad bout yourself. Besides, this idols don't have any rights to decide how the company or editors will manage their photos. They look good both ways. Edited or not and I hope they know their very worth it and equally beautiful in their original versions.🤷♀️❤️
I just want to add something here. My height is 158cm, and I swear, most of these idols pointing out that their height is 158-160cm, are not saying the truth ( but I believe they say that due to the harsh stupid korean standarts). I have short bowed legs and long torso, and I don't look that short in pictures, I even look decently tall with high heels.
I really don't want the K-POP Idols I stan for to suffer like this, unlike people that prefer extremely skinny idols I prefer them to be just normal. they are human too!
i don't think jisoo's neck was edited, her neck is slim irl she just has a thyroid nodule ( lump in the neck, often harmless and appear at the age of 22-40 in women) which makes her neck look thicker from front, but normal size from left or right side. i have that issue and my neck looks different in selfies than in videos. and again, body shaming can happen to "skinny" people too.. 3:10 ?
JISOO actually looks like this!!!! Look at her recent trip to Madrid, Spain 🇪🇸 she looks so long and slender and so does her neck it’s very toned and her jaw is chiseled, not just in pictures but in every video she looks just like her pictures in real life!!!
All the girls in this list are pretty. And if people nitpick about these idol bodies, how can normal people like us be comfortable with our bodies? I stan talent more than looks.
1:39 see I just overcome this thing I always thought why my belly come out whenever I eat or drink something but it's just natural if you eat or drink something that belly comes out for few minutes then go back * digestion I guess *
Where on earth do these bashers live? These girls basically have good bodies aesthetically and healthily. These bashers have something wrong with their eyes or perspective.
you will get to know about all the kpop idols after searching on their routine , don't judge them before looking to their lives , they have insecurities about their looks ut we fans are the only one to them who help them know that they are pretty
It's because of all those edits and filters that make fans expect the idols to look a certain way. So, of course if they see something different compared to their photos, fans will be 😮. It's Expectation vs. Reality.
Being perfect is boring in my opinion. Plus, it sucks to waste all your time to look perfect when your body will age and not look perfect all the time.
This video is about how people bodyshame idols and expect unreal body types, yet the narration and script of the video contradicts itself calling skinny idols heavy and saying idols "even though she doesn't have a perfect body" while the perfect body doesn't exist.
Why does people make it seems like its a big deal for an idol to have a slightly different body shape from what they expected. I mean their face are still the same, its not like they are being catfish
Beauties are what's inside who you are as a person. So what if they're short or gain bit of weight or have skin problems. People expectations of beauty is out of this world. It's depressing and toxic how these talks stir hate and bad that leads to body shame. No respect at all. SMH. Before you judge someone, learn the term of respect. Amen 🙏💖
This is why companies should stop focusing so much on beauty. Now days fans expect their idols to look flawless instead of looking like normal human beings WHICH IS WHAT THEY ARE.
And korean articles should stop posting fake news about how korean idols are so poreless and glass skin when in fact it's not true! I've seen alot of korean people not having thr best skin as to what the media wants to portray their people there.. they are sending bad message to people all over the world when in reality they have skin textures and acne like any other humans. And having skin texture is not a bad thing cause our skin needs to breath but the fantasizing something unbelievable and untrue should stop🤦♀️
exactly! They're idols and they should focus on their music, not pleasing others' eyes. It's so annoying to see companies treating idols like dolls that need to be perfectly manufactured rather than treating them like humans. NingNing's case made me very upset at how people are so quick to bodyshame. They should be focusing on their idol's music and their talents rather than how they look. Everyone has their own beauty standards and just because someone doesn't fit the stereotypical standard doesn't make them any less precious. All idols are hardworking and went through a lot to reach where they are now. So respect and love everyone and stop bodyshaming.
Same with actions and habits,.they shouldn't even be angry or sad because fans get so overly analytical forgetting they too have bad days. Same with stuff like smoking or accessions f bomb ,yes it's bad and yes they promote to kids but it isn't the end of the world . In fact the more human and genuine they are the closer they feel it feels way more genuine and just makes you love them more . This is why people love when idols make darker songs about actual problems and feelings they encountered or fight like every other person
Companies are going to stop focusing on beauty when fans stop. Their obsession with "visuals" is ridiculous, it's silly that they like idols just because they fit their definition of "pretty".
As they are idols i agree they should take care of skin but the visual madness is just increasing. Now a days people only care about visuals not about their dancing or vocals or even composing, producing skills. Only visuals are cared by the public. No matter how good their talents are if they dont suit their taste so much hate.
I do agree a bit importance should be given to visuals but it should never overshadow their skills.
This reminded me with Jihyo during sixteen. The photographer didn't want to put Jihyo in the Major group because she looks fat. I was completely shock because she literally look fine and even had good facial expression. People should really stop making unrealistic standards. We should start putting on clothes that fit our body rather than changing our body to fit clothes.
Everytime i see jihyo she has amazing expressions in fancams. I agree she isnt best dancer in twice but her expressions are amazing. She trained as actress for few years. Maybe that helped. Jihyo was never fat. Its just korean standards for women are way to skinny. They should remember they are girls not barbie dolls.
Jihyo has nice visuals and amazing voice. She deserved to be in the major.
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Well said. 100% agree.
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They're idols and they should focus on their music, not pleasing others' eyes. It's so annoying to see companies treating idols like dolls that need to be perfectly manufactured rather than treating them like humans. NingNing's case made me very upset at how people are so quick to body shame. They should be focusing on their idol's music and their talents rather than how they look. Everyone has their own beauty standards and just because someone doesn't fit the stereotypical standard doesn't make them any less precious. All idols are hardworking and went through a lot to reach where they are now. So respect and love everyone and stop body-shaming.
how could u expect idols to focus on their music? considering 99.9% of idols cant properly sing, nor have they ever studied any music theory, also they probably cant even read a stave nor understand the music their companies provide to them. idols are nothing more than massive produced merchandise, most of their selling points are faces and bodies, that's why kpop fans criticize their looks so much.
Ning ning has amazing vocals.i never understood why she got hate in first place. Yeah she might be chinese. But if they hate chinese so much why take chinese idols in first place. Ofcourse they want to expand to get more money. But they cant the idols properly. They say u are making money bcoz of korea they forget the companies are making more money by international audiences.they get that money bcoz of that foreign memeber but they dont care to protect them from hate.
@@namingshard17 until 2nd generation idols are picked for their talents after the "visual" place became more popular the companies cared about idols visual rather than skills.
@@Daisy999 the real reason behind this was, it was easier to find or "produce" idols with good visuals, but a lot harder to find artists with true talents. also mass produced idols cost less and more profitable for companies
Nope. If they just focus on music they can be singer not idol. But agency rarely debuting singer.
Just stop being delusion all of idols can sing/dance/rap in same time. There a reason why in kpop group have "position". Main vocal, mean he/she has best vocal among the other member. Then we have main dancer/main rapper/visual.
If your bias is visual, then don't expect too much for their vocal.
I am agree, even idols has "visual" position, they also can be vocalst/rapper but not the main.
If idols just focus on music why trainees in survival show can't debut? Even the judge praised their vocal? Why agency not recruit them? Why someone like minyoung (sorry i am not sure her name but she in jyp sixteen) who have great vocal not choose by jyp??? The reason just she not good enough for "her look", and jyp already pick jihyo. But the strange thing, people still complain twice's singing ability, meanwhile they are pick the member, and kick someone like minyoung.
I think people were surprised to see that Jennie wasn't as "slim thick" as people praised her to be because her "stomach was sticking out" and her butt was flat. Like maybe we shouldn't hold these humans to such high standards of aesthetic perfection because it's detrimental both to fans AND the idol.
Like 98-99% of their butts are flat so that’s par for the course and no issue.
I never got why people call her slim thick. She's really slim
@@leavemealone322 I think they don't know what slim thick is.
I don't think those people know what "slim thick" means
adding onto the person who said they don't understand calling jennie slim thick: literally no kpop idol is slim thick , barring maybe hwasa a while back , but even then she's more on the slim side than the thick one these days. what most people call slim thick on kpop idols is either hip pads or a slim idol with wide hips and a defined waist. i don't get why people use the term so incorrectly ain't a single kpop idol that's thick let's be honest
Seriously, people who are busy with this really have no idea what 'fat' really is... All these idols are still SKINNY. they are healthy and just living their life. I'm getting so sick of people judging all the time. We all know how pictures work and how angles etc influence. Pfff
lord...Jennie...
no one has ever sucked in their stomach for a photo?
and it wasn't even that bad
Also maybe she ate something after that photo
Like jeez it's a party, let the girl live
lord tf
That was literally what a human looks like when they drunk alcohol likeee but people are always overrreacting when it's Jen
It's a kpop fans they love being toxic, what do you expect lol
ikr?everyone do that to make their belly smaller but mostly just in front of camera or of a crowd not when their having fun and just want to relaxed,tucking in their tummy is a little bit exhausting
Also another thing to note, if someone has a flatter stomach and a uterus most of the time the little lower “belly pouch” thing is just the protective layer of the skin over the uterus.
Ningning and Jisoo are so fineeeeeeeeeeee all of them really!
My thick girls! I love both of them. Effortlessly HOT 🥵🔥
G DRAGON KING ,,,
exactly! I'm not a fan of aespa music but ningning is absolutely beautiful (like everyone else in this video...those who criticize them must live really empty lives)
Chaeyeon herself said that her company gave her strict orders about her weight that she shouldn't cross 50kg
Yeah she said her CEO's motto is "A woman's weight should be in the 40s" or something
Jisoo and Marie Claire was just not it. Not only the neck buy the whitewash. Her natural skin tone was sooooomuch better but the whitewash made her look dead-pale ngl
Ningning has lost a lot of weight now. She has always been gorgeous.
It is quite common that all the celebrity photos that are taken by the paparazzi and knetz are highly edited and photoshop to make idols look better... While some are not that obvious some people do go overboard with either whitewashing the idols or making their appearance very slim... Idk why people get shocked when they find out that their idol's pic is photoshopped and get mad at the idols for it... Nothing you see on social media you see is 100% real and people should stop critizing how others look and focus more on their health and well-being because at the end of the they are just profit makers for their company and you yourself are creator of your life
I'm sorry but ningning and jisoo are just SO FINE!!! And actually all the idols of this miserable industry.
Although Jisoo doesn’t have the perfect body proportions and isn’t as slim as the other members, she’s perfect the way she is. Also, the right angles can do wonders. Please don’t come for Jisoo, my girl is perfect and beautiful just the way she is.
I can't believe jennie got hate because she bloated. People really think of idols like some sort of machines and not actuall people, damn. She wasn't even that bloated, yall should see me after eating lmao
they are ignorant 🙄 but they can completely be blame. Is the kpop industry that keep pushing that unrealistic image. They advertise idols as perfect with no flaws. When in fact the are just human like the rest of us.
Lol I totally relate to this lol….
She's not bloated it's her natural body people body looks different from different angles. I have said before that her waist isn't that small from side angle but people overhype her of having a small waist and start comparison with Lisa and Rosé. But people should never or bodyshamed her cuz her body is perfect as it's.
@@flymetotheup9904 no honey, she is bloated. There are literally other pictures and videos with her normal body. And jennie said before that she bloats even by only drinking water.
And what dym her waist doesn't look as "small" from the sides. LMAOOO😭. You can't see the waist from the sides?!?!?!?! I-😂😂
I sense a little bit of bitterness here. And don't speak on a woman's body if you don't know sht. Both Rosé, Lisa and all the women in this world bloat too. I can't believe I have to say this
@@notyourdays she might be bloated but her waist isn't *THAT* small from side and y'all need to open your eyes and stop overhyping her body in superficial way.
Don't you know what sides body profile is? So you can clearly see or you're just blind. My comment is facts but you got defensive and misinterpreted my words.
Nice try, y'all are talking about her body hypocrite not just me. I said she's human and perfect the way she's. You just completely ignored my last comment defending her but getting defensive with me talking about the truth. So what if she have small waist or thick waist she's human.
Jisoo and Jennie are so beautiful like wtf these Korean beauty standards are so bad btw to be honest the girls who are known for their beauty in k beauty standards are not so pretty in my opinion they are so extremely slim they look like skeletons they need to stop their unrealistic diet because it is clearly affecting their health ❤️🙏😭
"korean beuty standards" but in jennie's case wasn't koreans who picked on her, I bet they don't even know about the situation. It was international roaches who were bodyshaming her just for breathing
It's Korea's Beauty Standards, so unless you are from there, then you have no say so. And calling other Idols not good-looking and skinny is just so wrong. BTW, have you ever seen Jisoo and Jennie in person? I can tell you right now that they are as slim as other Idols if not slimmer. It's their world that they chose to be in (KPOP), and they knew exactly what they were getting into. Whatever the case may be, they are all beautiful in one way or another.
@@annfrancis2406 I didn’t mean to be rude I am just saying that these standards make idols follow very strict diets which is unhealthy considering how much work they have to do which eventually causes idols to faint I have seen many cases like this and yes jisoo and jennie have lost weight recently but the main reason are these standards and it’s not the idols who should adjust to these disgusting standards but kpop itself and the companies should change their style since kpop is becoming international more
Jisoo has one of the healthiest bodies among female idols, I don’t see why people try to photoshop it when it looks great.
companies should treat their idols as normal human beings and let them live their life HOWEVER they want. they are already perfect without editing
Jennie being classified as slim thick … hmmmmm, yeah let’s skip that, but photoshopping isn’t new after all, i know some people say that it’s nice to know cause makes you feel better about yourself but I’m in the point of knowing but still wanting to be exactly the photo even if it’s impossible, I’m just f*cked I guess.
Also I don’t know if it’s exactly only the publics fault here, the standards are built by media and they can promote what is good and what’s not, just takes a good marketing team, as the consumer is so enthralled on the standards that when it falls flat the person is like WHAT?
Of course we need to question what we consume and what we think is beautiful but in the end it seems like a battle we can’t win after all, but we can try I guess
jennie being classified slim thick is crazy to me too. Kpop really does feel like another world lmao.
Because it is slim thick for asian and eastern white women who are generally have more fragile body and thin bones structure compared to black, latinas ans whites from the west. Women from that regions rarely have visible curves so having some breast and hips being slim is considered slim thick. Don't compare it to the west where people generally bigger
@@rachelamber2456 asian not rlly but she still has the curviest body in blackpink
I am sorry but did u say jennie is considered slim thick?!!??!!??!!! Really?!??!!!? My goodness!! What world do these knetizens live in?!?? 🗿
@SM exactly people are quick to forget that sometimes female idols are made to undergo breast augmentation or just wear padded bras and butt pads to appear curvy when they are usually skinny
I've seen Jennie in person in airport in Japan before she's so small ordinary looking asian girl, her face is so cuteee btw...but Rose is stunning in person.
Rose is so gorgeous 😭
ordinary looking asian girl?...where do you live where she is "ordinary"
@@hwangnoeul use comprehension skills it’s obvious what they meant 🤦🏽♀️
Jisoo is perfect and she doesn’t need to be edited too much. I love her anyway
those knetizens who criticized Jennie are aware that when you drink alcohol you actually get bloated???? lmaoo
The companies focus on the idols faces, height and not on their skills and talents like singing,rapping and dancing. Now other idols stop to sing and dance. The idols now focusing in brandings. That is why KPOP INDUSTRY struggles.
Irene is a perfect k-pop idol i don't think she needs any Photoshop
All the love to her 🖤🖤🖤
agree
no one’s perfect tho
@@itsjaneb yaa i know that but she is a perfect k-pop idol
Everyone is perfect in their own way Not just irene or just kpop idols. Its everyone. Its fine u might consider someome beautiful among a group but noone has right to call others ugly or not good enough. Picking flaws in the idols is what making them to be photoshoped to met fans standards.
Cant we remove these standards of beauty from our head. we find flowers beautiful. They arent same. Every flower is different. But noome judges hope this flower has long petals. No right? We just appreciate what they are for?
But why cant we appreciate for our fellow humans?
@@Daisy999 ok so i didn't said anybody is ugly and if you know the beauty standards of k-pop then you should that Irene is perfect in it . And thank you for putting your opinion infront of me i also think the same option.
In my opinion, photoshop cant be controled, companies, fansites and media outlets do it all the time no matter if the idol doesnt want it. In photoshop and selfie apps, the idols face and body are edited and whitewashed to be even more on the korean beauty standard. Many idols say they hate apps like sn0w but they have to edit their selfies the way the company desires.
The styling as well create multiple illusions. Shorter clothing to create longer vertical line, insoles, padding. Sometimes the idol is on the korean beauty standard, but the stylist dresses them in outfits that arent for their body shape, making them look boxy, bloated and messy.
I think people forget that some of these idols don't manage their social media accounts and may have others posting for them. It's not like they also have time to edit their photos.
“Netizens” are so hypocritical. They should focus on themselves rather than blame companies for reacting to THEIR cancel-culture.
What happened to jennie also happened to me, I'm skinny and have flat stomach but when I eat is not more flat, my friends used to point on my belly because of that ...
All magazine photos are edited, even your favourite Hollywood stars and models. So leave these idols alone.
Jennie is perfect and people who are comparing should know that no one is perfect and stop body shaming.... Haters are incesure themselves and talking about other people is the only thing happening in they're life... Idols work hard and have decipline but haters sit infront of a screen and hate on people
Ningning is smaller than Giselle. 5:57 In this picture, Giselle has the widest waist and the widest neck and same with thighs. The most petite body is Winter, then its Karina, then Ningning and Giselle being the girl ranked as the widest body in Aespa.
Yeah that's true but ningning is being mentioned here because her fansite edited her photos which the netizens found to be different than the original pics this portraying a different image Giselle's fansites were always clear and true to Giselle's image
@@rineng4127 No. That's just an excuse. Koreans have been on her back since debut about her body but they don't say shit about Giselle. They just despise the fact she's Chinese and will do anything to bring her down.
@@sadhourstwentyfourseven9578 this is so true. I'm not an aespa fan but i heard all the controversies and the way knetz pick on her just for breathing made me realize how much they hate chineze people. I never staned a chineze idol before or a group with one so i never knew, let me very surprised and also wondering where is the hate comming from. Any ideas?
@@notyourdays Let's just that the relationship between Japan, China and Korea is a whole... can of worms that traces back to history. Koreans dislike Japaneses because of what they did to them back in the WWII (look up Korean comfort women just for one example), and they hate the Chinese because of things of waaaaay back, but mostly recented became heated due to many Chinese people's comments that many aspects of Korean culture like Hanbok belong to the Chinese, that Kimchi is Chinese or that Korea was a part of China, etc... And it caused a lot of animosity that had settled down a bit. I won't say Korea is 100% victims, but they generalize the Chinese a LOT when a lot of the faults lay on China's disgusting government. There's a reason Everglow isn't that popular, why Chinese idols just aren't that popular in Korea and they just go back to China eventually. (Pretty all of EXO's Chinese line even Lay, Victoria Song, Jia and Fei, Cheng Xiao, etc.). The only I know who got a pass is Yuqi from IDLE. Why? Because she's considered 'more Korean than Koreans'.
@@sadhourstwentyfourseven9578 This is so interesting. Thank you for the info
BTW STOP HATING ON Ning Ning!! She is still young! She doesn't need the HATE. #stopbullyinginkpop #aespa #ningningdeservesbetter #ningningisbeautiful
I agree, though I'm not a fan but ningning's case was so sad. It's her body and she decides how to maintain it, no one has the right to body shame her. She's beautiful in her own way
Jennie is really pretty ❤️
yes jennie is so pretty😍
that thing about Ningning. remember during an interview where they were asked who loves to search for their name online, everyone pointed at Ningning and she agreed bcos whenever she has time during the day, she said that she search hearself "Aespa Ningning" etc. Imagine what she'll see.
Tbh I don't know why ningning got so much hate about her thighs when Giselle was much more chubby but Giselle is tall but ningning is small and not fat I don't see a problem with her figure
Their too much even regular people edited picture before posting it on social media. These people are in entertainment they have to be pretty.
The reason their looks are so prioritized is because of the fans.
Even on live performances it’s refreshing to see them on US shows bc they aren’t beauty filtered to death
of course companies edit photos and videos, do you think your idols have flawless skin and body in real life?
i just know the ppl who bodyshamed Jennie are probably kids who don’t abt female body bc it’s normal to have a pouch on ur belly bc it’s the uterus 😭
let's be straight here.. NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO JUDGE ANYBODY'S BODY!
What about judges for like modeling/fitness competitions🙋
So you are telling me that Irene has the same height as me? And im 13! Wow but she look much more prettier than me❤️
yes, agreed
Yeess indeed Red Velvet are small😂, but there beauty is so fine, Irene is like 5'2 or 5'3
It’s kind concern how people seem to not know how the human body works. Like, come on you basically wake up and go to sleep knowing that when you got up from your bed your body looks completely different from the way you went to sleep, and when you eat or drink is the same thing your belly gets bigger. It’s kind mind blowing to me how some people think that celebrity are not like any normal human being, their bodies are just like any other
We live in a world where everyone edit their photos so why it would be different with celebs?
This makes me so sad, these girls are stunningly beautiful. There is nothing “ wrong “ with them. I think people want a fantasy something utterly unreal and it will never be enough. The standard of beauty that netizens demand is a perfection that is not possible and it’s sad to see these beautiful idols fall prey to those standards.
People are so much interested in idols bodies as If that's gonna make them successful in life. Agencies should stop focusing on idols beauty and the expectations of fans for idols are increasing.
In my opinion, Photoshop the body and skin texture should be forbidden in magazine pictures, they should use some editing only on lightning and other stuff.
I hate Dance the night away photoshoot ( the one in the morning) because all the 9 girls looks completely different, they look more like a Barbie doll.
If they think all of this is fat. *THEN WHAT IS SKINNY?*
PPL REACTIONS ARE DEFFIRENT AND IT DEPENDS ON THE IDOL
LIKE NINGNING AND GISELLE RECEIVED TONS OF HATE IN THEIR DEBUT JUST FOR LOOKING A BIT CHUBBY WHILE JIWOO OF NMIXX IS THICKER THAN THEM AND NO ONE TALKED ABOUT IT EVEN IN COUNTRY LIKE KOREA
Actually, netizents already talked about jiwoo, saying things like "she doesn't look like and idol" and "she needs to diet" "she's so fat how can she even debut" "her thighs are so big🤮". Every single time an idol seems to gain weight Korean fans star talking about thee body so it doesn't really depends on the idol. Kfans have talked about mashiro and chaehyun (Kepler), Nancy (momoland) even when they weren't that chubby
@@bubbles5218 that's the problem. People body shame others so easily as if idols are not humans. Idk why they focus so much on visuals when they are artists and not manufactured dolls.
nmixx members minus sullyoon all received soo much hate.. they literally said except sullyoon nobody actually looked like an idol in that grp.. they all looked like back up dancers etc etc.
@@stargazejk yeahh i also heard this a lot...
Why does a kpop idol have to be skinny to be loved by their company. Totally unfair!
Its basically the meaning of being an "IDOl" sadly😔
It's the companies fault for promoting perfect standard body beauty on their artists when in fact they r not. Idols r performers they need muscles to be able to dance but they r dragged for a bit of weight on their legs because of photoshoped pictures of them. Now an seeing an alarming tendency on gg idols with almost no legs curve,no substance,its like matches or baguette and they do not by exercises but by ps, they inject poison to reduce and contract their muscles!!! In Korea u can remove some ribs to affinate your waist!!! U can remove 6 ribs and that what somi did,that's what they r doing to have that slim figure. It's no more their noses and chins now they r doing work on their bodies too. No one care about it because their fan support them even tho it is dangerous,extremely dangerous
Downside of kpop is it’s intense obsession with beauty over music
Ofc Jennie's belly wouldn't look as flat as the videos. That is called being bloated 💀 She probably took those photos before the event, and she may have eaten something that caused her to be bloated or smth
Why are beauty companies like this, why editing the bodies of such beautiful ladies
Pushing body limits too far is very dangerous, Even for Kpop idols.
god they have so much opinion on others while they can put that same energy to themselves
I care about my looks but this society considers every natural part of an girl's body disgusting I mean I just can't do this anymore we can't never be perfect to the society
They all look gorgeous..
Especially when it comes to the monthly cycle you will bloat or stress will too so please take your bodies
because of this (korean beauty standards) I am always insecure about my body 😔🥺
but you are not Korean why would u want to fit the Korean beauty standards?
I've never had any insecurities before until I got into kpop+depression... there's always bad and good thing of being a kpop fan..
@@suhanashaikh9327 can't u see how the whole world is trying so hard to adopt on this korean beauty standards now? Outfit and everything...🤷♀️
@@suhanashaikh9327 but when I see them and listen about their toxic beauty standard it also make me feel like I am too thick or I am not perfect
@@suhanashaikh9327 fr 💀 thank God I was born in a country where close to almost every beauty is appreciated 🤣
Back in 2019 I spotted Mamamoo shooting for new music video here in HongKong. I’m stunned by their visual but they are much shorter than we see in screen.
NingNings, “fans” edited her pictures is just so crazy. Also the edited photos were very bad and weird she literally looked fake ???
It's so hard to say when it comes to retouching in kpop because artists are yoyo dieting all the time, so their weight is constantly fluctuating and they do look different for every stage. The problem isn't the photos, though. It's the standards they're trying and often failing to live up to because they're not machines and diets aren't consistently effective. Plus, the mixed messages of both their companies and fans and antis alike telling them to slim down and eat well and shaming them no matter what that really feeds into their need to participate in diet culture in the first place.
Jennie got hate for bloating, like it's a normal thing and I don't think that the photos of Jennie are Photoshopped cause I think the photos were before her eat and drinking and the video was after taking her meal
These idols devote their childhood to their careers and you dare to comment on their little flaws!?? Disgusting.
That's why fashion industry is pretty much toxic🤷♀️
Kpop companies should know how to filter the netizens' comments on how they should look. Companies shouldn't 100% listen to what people said. They should make idols normal just the way they are, and people will gradually normalize that idols are human beings with flaws too 😌
Maybe Jennie took the photos in the morning before she ate a lot and took other pics after eating?
Screw the beauty standards! All these women are goddesses!
Also take into account that sometimes people look different in pictures than they do in videos.
Well if we have to get body positivity, this editing things would be get exposed...
Why do they even compare them?! Are they jealous and trying to make them look bad so they can show off and say they look better?!
They should honestly stop.
Nothing new tbh. Everyone of us needs to retouch something when we post it on social media coz no one appreciates natural looks and figures especially this days.. this is honestly sad reality. Social media and society will make you feel bad bout yourself. Besides, this idols don't have any rights to decide how the company or editors will manage their photos. They look good both ways. Edited or not and I hope they know their very worth it and equally beautiful in their original versions.🤷♀️❤️
jennies body was awarded best body in kpop lol ...jennie have a good slim healthy body ...netizens are kneen to pick up on whatever jennie do
I just want to add something here. My height is 158cm, and I swear, most of these idols pointing out that their height is 158-160cm, are not saying the truth ( but I believe they say that due to the harsh stupid korean standarts).
I have short bowed legs and long torso, and I don't look that short in pictures, I even look decently tall with high heels.
I don't know, I'm 160cm and normal weight and lot of times I look so short, everything depends on proportions and where do you store fat :c.
I really don't want the K-POP Idols I stan for to suffer like this, unlike people that prefer extremely skinny idols I prefer them to be just normal. they are human too!
i don't think jisoo's neck was edited, her neck is slim irl she just has a thyroid nodule ( lump in the neck, often harmless and appear at the age of 22-40 in women) which makes her neck look thicker from front, but normal size from left or right side. i have that issue and my neck looks different in selfies than in videos.
and again, body shaming can happen to "skinny" people too.. 3:10 ?
Irene is the prettiest!
fact
yes irene is the most beautiful!😍😘
Agree
@@sabrinachowaM05 i
Love this wonderful princess she is my favorite in red velvet yeri is my bias wrecker 💕💗💞
Yes! 💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗
they all don’t need the photoshop omg
they shouldn't do that. This ladies are perfect just the way they are. Their natural selfs.
JISOO actually looks like this!!!! Look at her recent trip to Madrid, Spain 🇪🇸 she looks so long and slender and so does her neck it’s very toned and her jaw is chiseled, not just in pictures but in every video she looks just like her pictures in real life!!!
All the girls in this list are pretty. And if people nitpick about these idol bodies, how can normal people like us be comfortable with our bodies? I stan talent more than looks.
1:39 see I just overcome this thing I always thought why my belly come out whenever I eat or drink something but it's just natural if you eat or drink something that belly comes out for few minutes then go back * digestion I guess *
Where on earth do these bashers live? These girls basically have good bodies aesthetically and healthily. These bashers have something wrong with their eyes or perspective.
netizens get a job and leave women alone challenge:
failed miserably
All of them are just so stunning and I can't understand why people fixate so much on someone's weight
you will get to know about all the kpop idols after searching on their routine , don't judge them before looking to their lives , they have insecurities about their looks ut we fans are the only one to them who help them know that they are pretty
Tbh, I rarely ever found ningning's edited photos. Except for the edited photos for comeback or magz etc.
Lucky me I guess.
It's because of all those edits and filters that make fans expect the idols to look a certain way. So, of course if they see something different compared to their photos, fans will be 😮. It's Expectation vs. Reality.
Being perfect is boring in my opinion. Plus, it sucks to waste all your time to look perfect when your body will age and not look perfect all the time.
It's really hard to be a woman in any industry it always has been a double standards and the female itself will be the one to pull down other females.
This is so wrong because no girl doesn't get bloated
This video is about how people bodyshame idols and expect unreal body types, yet the narration and script of the video contradicts itself calling skinny idols heavy and saying idols "even though she doesn't have a perfect body" while the perfect body doesn't exist.
All these people who complain are having to many time on their hand. They are very pretty and perfect. I wish i have there body.
Why does people make it seems like its a big deal for an idol to have a slightly different body shape from what they expected. I mean their face are still the same, its not like they are being catfish
"Some fans" have too much time on their hands
Jennie bloated? Gosh she drink and eat where do you think the foods where go? To the sand? Jennie and Jisoo are stunning and have the ideal body.
Yeah Jisoo and Jennie's body are the finest body in kpop
Does those people know about bloating? Even in my super flat body, my belly looks like of a pregnant women when I bloat 😑
i feel sorry for the toxic fans... they should just support their idols
Beauties are what's inside who you are as a person. So what if they're short or gain bit of weight or have skin problems. People expectations of beauty is out of this world. It's depressing and toxic how these talks stir hate and bad that leads to body shame. No respect at all. SMH. Before you judge someone, learn the term of respect. Amen 🙏💖
I think Jennie just eated much food that time
true blinks know, don't believe on just internet, believe who already see theme in reality not just in Video photo etc..