Unfortunately, I expect Seunghan will never return to Riize. SM might have held out longer if the group had already been well-established. I don't understand why people who didn't like him having dated or smoked couldn't just have moved onto a different group.
no. if this happened maybe later in their career he could may be, but since it happened before it even started, people (especially koreans) never got affectionate to him unlike they would if it happened later, so even if he happen to returns they'd still hate him 😞 it's really sad
My main problem is how easy it is now for people to damage idol’s careers and even get them removed from their groups. SM is basically encouraging saesangs and haters
Why SM should give them that much power. It's crazy. Those people are destroying people's career. Not let him pursue his dream. That's ridiculous. He was so happy to meet Jisung by calling him big bro too.
Exactly. By putting him on hiatus instead of suing, they make room for more insane wierdos to do this in the future. This person has gotten what they want. I don't trust anything that SM says about them "taking legal action" because it rarely ever happens. Kun was on live one day, and a comment said, "I want to join SM." He legit said, "No. There are better options put there."
@@katgreer6113 Good for him to say that. They are not blind and us either. SM needs to be bitchslapped and lose all his artists. Those artists can build an other company so they can get better and better at their craft.
They have been ever since they caved to the fans who bought SM shares to get their way. It should’ve never made them hurt their artists. So many cave now about any time a single rumor gets whispered anywhere around the world. This is stupid.
But Seunghan's case is NO WAY similar or close to Lucas's Lucas one was so complicated while Sughan did nothing but having an ex gf or smoking (as far as we know) For me I do.t see it as a reason to be kicked out
We haven't learned a damn thing from Woojin, Jimin, Soojin, Garam, Lucas and Ravn. How many more idols do we have witness lose their careers due to lies and misinformation before we actually put our feet down?!
Not a RIIZE fan but it's awful that he's had his privacy violated and then had to apologize for it. It's too bad that companies give in to the pressure from delusion fans smh
On a serious note, it takes a lot of effort and time to try and tear somebody down just because you don’t like someone. We've seen way too many cases of this happening and k-pop stans, especially on twitter and tik tok, have proven themselves to not have learned from the past situations.
I truly hope that SM actually take action and hopefully bring back Seunghan ASAP. It’s so sad that a potentially close friend of Seunghan is probably behind all this.
He had a normal life before being an idol?! THATS CRAZY?!!!! I hate that he had to apologize TWICE for having a life. I hate he’s apologizing because his privacy was invaded. Also SM please actually act on your words. If you gonna threaten to sue then do it! Protect your artists please this goes to all companies.
I feel sorry for Seunghan, he didn't do anything wrong. He shouldn't be punished for things that are normal for people his age. I'm very disappointed in SM and hope they bring him back eventually.
What pisses me off is that Seunghan had to aplogize TWICE for being human and having a life like normal people. Like, what part of "Idols are human too" is not clicking to them? This is why we always have these types of problems in SM. SM never does anything nor get thier shit together at all. Watch, Seunghan might be the Lucas 2.0. I knew this was going to get worse. If SM would do something before, then none of this would have happened.
I never liked SME and how they handle their idols' false allegations that tears apart idols' image. I will never forgive them for kicking Lucas out instead of investigating those people behind those accounts which were sasaengs. The fact is, many people still believe sasaengs over actual facts because they love drama in K-pop, just look at Woojin too who still got no apology and still faced backlash from false serious allegations. Seunghan's case shouldn't be about him smoking or having an ex-girlfriend (and lets be real many idols talk about their ex's in school and no one cares anyways), as he didn't commit a crime or anything. If the focus was on the livestream, many have pointed out that this was mistranslated and very out of context, but again no one cares and runs away with whatever was given to them. Honestly though, it makes zero sense as to why SME ALWAYS takes this route and whoever told their idols to handle situations like these which are very defaming and false, since it makes the idols actually look guilty.
I think I went off enough on Twitter. But yeah. I’m so upset to see this. The community has enabled such horrifying norms. An idol misspeaks or does something that can be misinterpreted? They’re a (insert your favorite form of bigot here) False accusations? Believed without question. Idols getting hate for having a love life? The company makes the idol apologize and face repercussions. This is not right. This should NEVER be seen as right. I’m so done with this community and how juvenile, gullible, and ignorant it can be. If this continues, KPop is doomed. It’s already seen as the most toxic community and non-KPop stans avoid it like the plague. I know I’m being harsh. But the community needs to wake up. People’s lives are being destroyed all because stans feel entitled to manipulate the trajectory of their careers. These idols are people. Not gods. And definitely not SIMs characters. If people are going to cry for idols to be treated like people, it starts at home with fans to lead by example.
🗣️Speak on it! I always hate how low key hypocritical some people are when they say that “Idols should be themselves”, “Idols should be able to talk more freely”, and “Idols should be able to interact with other idols or whoever they want to” etc. but in the very next breath stupid things like this happens. If I, myself, am tired and exhausted of the idiotic hiatuses and the like. I can’t imagine how idols must feel to have their lives being quite honestly controlled by gullible fans/overreacting fans.
I hate how the moment a rumour is created and spread, most k-netz just believe it by default. No fact checking, no actual THINKING done beforehand, they're apparently just so naive that they believe EVERYTHING.
EXACTLY! It’s just the same when kpop fans say “they are humans too” but right after that they go hating on other idols. These fans need to wake tf up!
and after these fans destroy a idols life then they turn around and have the audacity to preach about mental health is important. its honestly disgusting that this is how fans are treating idols now.
You know at this point I really want K-pop companies to stay away from the fans. Instead stand by the idols, of course depending on the situation. These companies are letting fans want the cake and eat it too so often. These people have trained, waited to debut, and work hard to entertain us. All for them to end up with nothing and slapped with a “hiatus” a.k.a kicked out. I don’t want hiatuses to be used against idols, I want it to be used FOR THEM, when they’re stressed, have anxiety, need to recover from idiotic people online and/or idiotic fans online. At the end of the day, these are just normal people here to entertain us with music, game interviews, promotions and the like. Not here to have their lives ruined for stupid reasons.
I was genuinely shocked to see that SM actually clarified that the rumours were fabricated and malicious. We knew that the rumours around Lucas were fabricated but SM never defended him. Not that this gives me much more hope for Seunghan but at least it's something. Like you said, all we can do is wait and continue to show our support. I'm 100% rooting for him to make a full come back as soon as possible ❤
@@lovelynikki2476 protect him from haters. Apart from that, Seunghan and SM have to deal with the police and courts not just once but many times, this will conflict with Riize's schedule.
@@lovelynikki2476 Apart from that, for the sake of seunghan mental health, imagine that you have spent years practicing to achieve your dreams, but destroyed by your 'friends.'
I really wish SM didn't let him apologise. He had nothing to apologise for. If he really felt bad, he could've done it in private to his members but not to the public. Apologising to everyone for being a normal kid is just ridiculous. He is the victim in all of this. I really hope he does comeback and SM protects him.... knowing SMs track record, i dont really have much hope😓
His scandal isnt too serious to kick him out from the group ...but it was shown like he did some huge crime I seriously hope he comes back .. I really like him as an idol
The real people in the wrong are those who invaded his privacy and spread false information. I saw some of them make “apologies” on twitter after sm’s statement. I hope sm will actually follow through on suing them even though it’s too little too late. Personally I don’t know if I can continue stanning riize without seunghan. He’s not even my bias but he’s so integral for the performance and relationship of the group. I hope he can come back so the group won’t be incomplete.
SM's biggest mistakes regarding Seunghan other than forcing him to go on hiatus as if he did anything wrong is making him apologize the first time and again this time around. Although he did nothing wrong, both apology statements are like an admission of guilt, so even though both of the antis who have been slandering his name and reputation both came forward to confirm that they were lying about their accusations against him, many people don't want to believe he's innocent because in their minds, they think that there's no reason why he should have apologized if he wasn't guilty, so he HAS to be guilty since he DID apologize twice. Other than that, the way SM handled this situation made everything all the more worse for him or should I say, the way they DIDN'T handle the apology because it should NOT have taken many more private photos/the IG live with Soobin getting leaked for the company to FINALLY take ACTUAL legal action, which, knowing SM, I wouldn't be surprised if, at the end of the day, they don't go through with taking legal action because when have they ever really truly protected their artists? I just hope Seunghan can overcome this and be able to return to the group, even if it takes him a while, and considering SM's stocks literally took a swan dive right after it was announced he would be going on hiatus, it would be in their best interest to actually clear his name, sue these people, and keep him in the group unless they want to fumble the bag with RIIZE.
@@Rinadharb98 No, he hasn't been kicked out. He's on hiatus, which means there's still a chance he'll return to the group, so let's not assume things please and thank you
@@g0ldenicecream There's been speculation that he chose to go on hiatus himself as during a fancall fanmeet, a fan asked him what he would like to tell the fans and he said that everything would be okay soon with no context, which happened shortly before he was put on hiatus, so people think he knew he was going to go on hiatus, knew that SM was going to take legal action, and made that decision himself. That's just speculation though, so as far as we know, he was forced to go on hiatus and knowing SM and how they operate, that's likely what happened.
This whole situation is just horrible and really bothers me. I really hope he can come back to the group and continue to do what he loves. K-pop fans can be so toxic and hateful. I hope people can learn to be more kind and empathetic in the future.
I live completely on the other side of Korea, but I'm fortunate enough to have a small store near my home where I buy all my albums and merch from. I walked in one day and one of the girls who runs the place was laughing because SEVENTEEN fans had been coming in all day dumping photocards on the counter saying they didn't want them anymore after finding out one of the members was dating. The whole thing is nuts. I don't care how many BTS albums you own, Jungkook is NOT going to start dating you.
SM feeds on saseang and haters..like they are so incapable of protecting their artist. May they learn from other company who works to give the artist the best and takes stringent action against the haters.
SM always does this! Instead of actually taking legal actions, they send their artists to be on hiatus for who knows however long. SM enabled those netizens in a way. Every time there's a scandal, their only solution is hiatus but it never solved anything or made the situation any better. Dating in kpop industry should be normalized. They are all grown adults. They shouldn't be apologizing for dating. It's totally ridiculous. I hope Seunghan will get to come back to RIIZE. It's literally haeartbreaking that this happened to him even before his debut. Hopefully, he'll surround himself with a better group of friends or people who genuienly care for him not someone who's looking to take advantage of him and take him down and destroy his reputation.
you know what saddens me, Hyunjin's situation was unfair but he was lucky that he was already a very popular and influential member of the group and it happened about 2/3 years after his debuted so that when he came back, he didn't have an issue blending back in. Riize barely debuted. When, and I say when because I'm am claiming it that he will definitely come back, when Seunghan returns, his group mates would have already solidified their fans within the fandom. Seunghan will be months behind (assuming he is only going to be gone for a few months) However, Riize was growing but Seunghan's scandal really skyrocketed their popularity. Some people know Riize through Seunghan and others support Seunghan even though they dont Stan Riize. I just hope that when he comes back, everyone will be ready to show him all that support.
@@rhens8088 I feel like crying when his part comes in every performance but another member is singing it... he was so charismatic on stage and had a unique powerful vibe to him. I miss him so much every day 💔 I hope whoever did this to him never sees happiness again
Tells you about the toxic, evil fans who act like they’re more perfect than all the kpop idols I bet somebody will comment, “Well, it’s part of being an idol, good image, blah blah.” Not even a diehard fan of Riize, but this has happened to a lot of idols who worked hard only to be put on ‘hiatus.’
GUYS PLEASE LET'S SUPPORT SEUNGHAN AND PROTECT HIM LET'S SEND ALL RIIZE MEMBERS POSITIVE COMMENTS briize we still have time to protect our seunghan please let's not give up that easily 🧡🧡
I'm so FREAKING pissed! So because he dated in the past, it's a problem?!? An issue?!?! NAH, imma need that twitter account and pannchoa to be off the internet for good! SM better take action and sue those mfers (for real)! I pray and hope that Seunghan will be able to return to RIIZE in 2024. In a video fancall, he knew that his hiatus was going to happen and told fans to not worry and wait......I believe his words that he will return 🧡🧡
I am waiting for Seunghan to return to riize because he is way too talented to have his career be so short. Seunghan deserves better and seriously needs some new friends
I’m not going to lie, this almost makes me not want to be a Kpop fan anymore. S Korea is still a very conservative society, and I was never deluded by the rose colored vision S Korean media purposely projects to the world. What shocked me is how easily it was for someone to destroy an idol’s career and how fast k fans turned on him. I try to stay in my lane when it comes to K-pop and k culture. I am not a part of the culture, just a foreign fan…however since companies like SM are actively going after foreign money, I think it’s time foreign fans have more influence on idol culture. These companies develop parasocial relationships between fans and idols which is both an emotional and financial investment on the part of the fan. Going forward I won’t be supporting anymore SM artists, not because they aren’t super talented, but because I can’t get emotionally invested in an idol, to then have front row seats to them losing everything so easily. I feel this in general about kpop, unless things change, once the group I Stan now go to the army, I’m just going to be a casual fan who only randomly listens to the music and not get involved with idol culture. These are young adults who should be seeking healthy relationships and making a few innocent bad decisions. Being an idol is not the same as being a singer in the west, it’s an entire package of someone to be idolized. So I understand the need for idols to be a morally good person in addition to talented and attractive. However these standards can’t be healthy. I would be interested to see the long term psychiatric problems that arise from the environment that these idols are trained in and live under through their teens and early 20s. I’m also hoping this young man is protected by his family because it doesn’t seem like SM cares beyond their bottom line!
It’s just so sad… because of insecure people that realise they can’t date kpop idols they ruin it for all and someone’s career… kpop companies need to put a stand to ts
A few ways they can actually put their foot down is stopping fancalls, fansigns, and that “text your idol” bs. They need to get them as far away from idols as possible and stop feeding into deranged parasocial relationships because people just be getting too close.
@@sraenn Sadly, I don't think that'll happen sooner. Companies are pushing idols more by keeping the idols images like they're our friends, bubble, etc. Its just increasing more than it was in the past.
@@sraennI swear I hate fancalls and fansigns.(don't get me wrong ) I know from these fans get the chance to meet/interact with their idols. But now a days fancalls are about 100 aegyo battles and more cringe stuff they say to these idols.(asking idols to act like their husband/bf 💀)Sometimes I think most idols actually hate doing those fancalls and fansigns more than we do.
With all the power and money SM has behind closed doors I am sure they have enough funds to call in a good law firm to investigate into the matter and find out who has been spreading this false/ personal information on Seunghan. This poor kid has just barely made it into a year of his career and is already having all of these odd things thrown at him. For what exactly jealousy, defamation??. whatever it may be. It is horrible that he and any human being has to go through something as terrible as this is.
Although I’m always delulu but I really hope my idols can get girls, life their life, have a family stay happy forever (and maybe reproduce😂😂) I’ve always found it so fascinating finding out which idols are together it was more fun, blessing and good news for me. Really sucks that so many fans are crazy delulu. let my man live his life, tho I’m not even a seunghan fan. Really hope Seunghan can relook his friend circles and filter out them soon
I can only hope this hiatus is for his benefit, to prevent him being attacked even more, and that he's not just quietly dropped somewhere down the line.
I agree with you on everything, but honestly the vicious cancel culture in KPOP is absolutely insane, and even though the companies need to do better to protect their idols, it's never going to change since now they almost always give in to pressure from these crazies(yes crazies), and make the idols take the fall for nothing more than past dating, smoking, and joking with another idol!! Where does it end? Should we cancel BTS who drink and smoke like chimneys now, of course we shouldn't and won't, and it shouldn't be any different with rookies and their trivial past or current lives! I know today's netizens are different then in the past, but maybe SM should go back to that time and not give in like with Chen of EXO. I feel sorry for Seunghan, RIIZE and everyone else affected and hope they punish those causing this insanity, but "indefinite hiatus" sounds like a "Lucas hiatus" and we know how that eventually ended!!☹️
I get the hiatus--if a supposed friend has been leaking my private stuff, I'd lie low too. That's terrifying, to know that someone is watching your every move and waiting for one misstep. He must be under a lot of anxiety and regret for trusting this "friend." What's ridiculous are the apologies. Srsly. SK's society must end the toxic culture of treating idols like dolls. If agencies want to go global, then they should be more progressive than this. Their entertainment industry must evolve into a safer space for the ARTISTS, not the "fans." After all, it wasn't the "fans" who poured blood, sweat, and tears to train and debut.
XG: welcome to the Puppet Show .... poor Seunghan being betrayed by some ex friends, definitely envious on him. who needs enemies when you have friends like that?!!! Hope SM will do the right thing and stand by their artists. I want to see Seunghan back with Rii7e.
This is why we can't have nice things. I will be devastated if he officially leaves, he's literally so sweet. Who on earth has so much time to be in his business like that?!
i know this is now destroying his career but i'm glad he actually enjoyed his teenage years unlike most idols would to prevent situations like this, it's so sad tho 😞 like you worked so hard, you finally get that hard work paid off but you suddenly have to drop everything because you had some fun back then, it's really sad, i hope he can return but at the same time knetz will hate him so much so... i hope he'll be able to choose what's the best for him
how much hate do you have to have within yourself to stop at nothing to ruin someones career like this? its just unbelievable .. could never see myself being filled w enough rage to do something like this. how do you plot this and follow through without stopping to think about the impact it will have on someone? or maybe its purposeful, we will never know so its sick to see people jumping to conclusions so fast about a person they know next to nothing about. even more sickening to see these nobodies typing away on a computer at home being able to manipulate real lives like this. regardless of whats true and whats not, the companies should do better.
They said and claimed the same mf things about Lucas and that man disappeared just to “choose to leave for solo endeavours” so I don’t trust sm for nothing if I’m being honest
Hey Bri so sorry I’m late had no idea about ur new vid til now. As a Briize he is/was one was one of my bias wreckers and it honestly hurts the fact he may no longer be living but i hope we don’t have to have a situation like Lucas where we literally had to wait over a year just to announce his departure. Sadly I think it’s too risky to have him back in the group as it can cause more damage for him and the members although he did nothing wrong at all ❤
I'm not someone who gets emotionally invested with idols. I poured too much energy on exo and red velver already. But speaking on talent, charisma and visual alone. It would definitely be a huge loss for SM if they actually kick him out. Also its beyond awful that he had to apologize TWICE when he is the obvious victim of a cyber crime.
I remember seeing RIIZE's reaction to debuting on TH-cam, man they looked so scared, that's right scared, because they aren't dolls, I remember the time I had stage fright while performing in a school event full of people I'm familiar with, and now imagine a idol, freshly debuted and the audience is the whole of Internet. He must have worked the courage to take criticisms, hate, and obsessive fan culture, but nothing could prepare him for the disgusting violation of privacy that he went through, and somehow he's to apologize ??? for SM he is removable, a problematic idol who's better off leaving the group, but if he leaves then we as a community would fail, who would ever want to debut in this toxic industry, Talents will leave heck never have the courage to join at all, I just hope SM understands bending to toxic fans isn't the answer but protection of privacy and clarification on the matter so fans know they're in wrong as well for jumping on allegation bandwagon
Idols, stop apologizing for your life. Its time for you to start telling people to mind their own business. Its time for their company to tell these people to mind their own business. Stop giving these people power over your life. These companies don't care, they will get rid of an idol and replace them with another. Start protecting your idols!
I think the bigger issue is how quickly everyone jumps on the bandwagon with no real evidence. due process is a thing and innocent until proven guilty is the law in Korea too. People having their lives pissed away on the word of some unvetted strangers is not it.
not at all saying Seunghan should be removed, but in this case "no real evidence" isn't applicable. they literally leaked video footage, so the "evidence" is there. the question is is if the things he did is enough to warrant his removal, and obviously the invasion of privacy
Can we talk about how cracked out kpop "stans" have gotten. Back in the day idols of opposite sexes can be best friends and have fun on stage and now it's gotten so bad that people get upset over idols about their past which mind you he did his whatever (whocares) as a teenager aka a kid. These people gotta quit crucifying idols for what they've done when they were a kid. Kids do stupid things and who cares. It's going to get to the point where idols aren't going to be able to interact with anyone outside of their group and anyone for that matter. Knetizens gotta fucking chill, they make kpop culture feel so sucky
Although SM loves to disappoint people. The statement is way different from Lucas. SM literally left Lucas out to dry and made us wait 2 years for a lack luster conclusion. But with Seunghan, SM does acknowledge that his privacy was leaked and that they're "actually" doing something about it. I say "actually" because SM loves to lie about doing stuff to protect idols. All i can hope for is that if Seunghan did decide to take a hiatus with his own will, i just hope he doesn't find it necessary to leave. I am tired of kpop companies bowing down to these Antis.
한국에서 사생활은 민감한 사안입니다 특히 아이돌에게는요 여자친구를 사귀고 담배를 피는게 잘못된건아닙니다 하지만 미성년자가 담배를 피는건 불법이죠. Sm은 최선을 다했습니다. Lucas는 사생활이 지저분했죠. 아이돌뿐아니라 배우 개그맨도 lucas처럼 사생활이 지저분하면 한국에서 연예계생활하기 힘들어요. 한국문화라는게 있는겁니다. 당신들이 한국문화를 존중하지않고있는거에요. 저는 승한이가 잘못했다고 생각하지않습니다.(물론 미성년자때 담배를 피운것은 잘못입니다.한국에선 불법이기때문에) 하지만 kpop 아이돌을 하기에는 이미지가 매우나빠졌어요
SM has stuck with some of their idols through scandals, such as Chanyeol, Kai, Irene, Karina, Giselle, Sohee, etc. they haven't failed every time, and Lucas is an exception bc there's more evidence to support the claims rather than refute them (why his largest fan cafes in China and Korea shut down). SM is also known to be the most litigious company in K-pop, which means while they're no perfect angels, you better not underestimate them
@@KY-jd1nlIm sick of stipe lazy people who never bother to ask why did Chinese govt never open a case or blacklist despite some morn fans demanding it. Why? Because there was no case. Evidence was fabricated by fly2themoon and Lucas was innocent.
I hope the leader and members of Riize continue to support Seunghan like straykids do to Hyunjin. because Riize is 7 members. It's too hard for me to lose my bias Seunghan even though I love all 7 members. I say this because I once had my heart broken by NCT because I lost Lukas even though my bias was Taeyong, but at that time I loved NCT completely with its 23 members. I suggest that the agency is not affected by haters' double standards regarding pre-debut dating controversies, because pre-debut dating is even acknowledged by idols like Cha Eunwoo and Roowon on TV shows. It's natural for handsome idols to meet their first love before debut
its not the fact that he had a girlfriend. its the fact that he went to a hotel, underaged with said girlfriend, and took sleazy cringy pictures of them in bed together and presumably sent them to friends. anton is rumored to have dated seventeen vernon’s sister and no one cared bc their pictures are innocent and cute, not making out in bed
@@charcboiylabagir7194 You seem personally effected by this, it's honestly very strange lol... Sleazy and cringey?? He was a teenager being a teenager for God's sake.
The dude did not hurt anyone, his "scandals" aren't even remotely controversial. SM putting him on hiatus just promotes knets' toxic attitude towards idols. His privacy was breached, they should start suing.
I can't not one of the best rookie group seungchan im gonna cry if he the same situation to lucas 😭 they said its hiatus and i hope not they gonna said he ends contract 🥺😡
Doakan ya kak semoga tahun depan kambek dia ikut tapi masih banyak yg benci dia di Korea kalau di fans internasional tidak huatir Karna tidak terpengaruh,tadi saya lihat yg yang nyebar sudah minta maaf saya fikir SM tidak akan melanjutkan kasus hukum nya ternyata masih lanjut karena tadi ada kabar SBS saya senang semoga yg menyebar kan merasakan hal yang sama yang di rasakan seunghan, walaupun komenan nya isi nya hujatan terhadap seunghan,yg penting pelakunya dapat ganjaran, biar tidak ada orang lain menjadi korban hetters seperti seunghan, saya suka Karna SM sekarang berani biar mereka tidak meraja Lela doa kan semoga dia bisa kembali amin
i wish someone would make a documentary about this so the industry would realize how toxic and stupid they all are. if no one dares to take a step, to face kfans….it’s truly never going to change…like idk find another way to make fans engage or gain money but this sht can be going..cause it’s also the reason why so many intl fans decide to drop kpop
Some of these toxic fans are nuts in head, the fact they enjoy to ruin this young Man music career like they done to Lucas over jealousy because He likes to kissing his Girlfriend on Date, these Netizen toxic fans are sick Man, and fact his own Company turn against him because these nasty toxic disgrace jealous Netizen fans I hate these type People and I do hope Karma is coming for them big time just like what they done to both Lucas, and this young Man Seunghan's they invade his privacy not other way around so why should He apologize his group RIIZE should stood by his him like Brothers WTH I guess they think these toxic fans are right instead listen to their real fans but I'm really mad at their Company 😡 really for listen to these ungrateful toxic Netizen fans, We apologize Seunghan for your career by these sick toxic fans..🥺🙏 (Translated by Google)
I thought kpop fans were starting to be more open to idols dating and smoking as several idols in 3rd generation are being shown to dating and smoking, but I guess this does not apply to 4th and 5th generation idols?
I think the most telling thing is them investing in a project like and a album without him. Then it would be truly over and show they have no intention of bringing him back
see fans have power, the power they deserve is to determine the success or failure of a group based on the groups discography, either they support or just let it be if they don't like it. If its problematic then you criticize, when the f*ck did we get the right to determine his career status because he dated, smoked or gossiped? did he kill someone ? hurt someone? did something illegal ? and Seungri's outta jail already, South korea's a f*cking joke man.
i hope seunghan knows that is all ridiculous like seriously, so many terrible things are happening in the world and this is the stuff ppl pay attention to. also i hope he also gets rid of that friend that's behind this like how low could someone be for them to wait for their friend to achieve their dream then attempt to ruin it, jobless behavior 💀. i wish sm would stand up for their artists not chicken out and hide them in the basement 😭
overall, personally I am just really sad about the whole kpop industry. Every ‘ idols ‘ are expected to be “ perfect and blameless “ when they really are not. In the end of the day they are still human beings, who is imperfect and that’s what makes every idol/person unique; they don’t have to be chained to the lies that “ they always have to do right & good & just one tiny mistake they are right away defined as to be a failure. “ every souls of these people are soooo precious, they are more than their talents, they are MORE THAN how good they can sing, dance, how smart they are, how beautiful they are or even how rich and or “ successful “ they are; they are more than that man. They are so so so precious, and whatever they may have done in the past ( that past may look like years and years ago or months ago or a week ago ) it doesn’t matter how their past look like, because they are still sooo worthy to be loved and appreciated like 100%. But yes just overall, I just really do believe that the kpop industry just puts wayyyyyy too much unnecessary pressure on these each precious person; they literally put them in such a ‘ high place ‘. These ‘ idols ‘ should not only be appreciated or even celebrated just because of their good talents ( which i am not saying to not appreciate their talents ) but really more like, we should appreciate their precious life more than anything else. Let us spread love and kindness guys, we must just continue on hoping that whatever may the results be, it will all work things out for the good! #OT7Riize! #JesusLovesYou!!! #YourLifeIsSoPrecious!!!
One of his friends is obviously hating him and waited till his debut and posted all the recording lives!! I don't blame idols for not having none celebrity friends I heard that person who did all this to him was SM trainee didn't debut but Sunghan did and succeeded
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What are your thoughts on Seunghan's indefinite hiatus? Do you think he’ll resume his activities with RIIZE?
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Unfortunately, I expect Seunghan will never return to Riize. SM might have held out longer if the group had already been well-established.
I don't understand why people who didn't like him having dated or smoked couldn't just have moved onto a different group.
Sadly I’m afraid they’ll lose him for good but I hope things turn out good in the end
No, unless he can truly commit to the terms of his contract.
Completely disagree with the decision.No regard to a person’s mental health and their personal life.
no. if this happened maybe later in their career he could may be, but since it happened before it even started, people (especially koreans) never got affectionate to him unlike they would if it happened later, so even if he happen to returns they'd still hate him 😞 it's really sad
My main problem is how easy it is now for people to damage idol’s careers and even get them removed from their groups. SM is basically encouraging saesangs and haters
Yes exactly and that's crazy !
Why SM should give them that much power. It's crazy. Those people are destroying people's career. Not let him pursue his dream. That's ridiculous. He was so happy to meet Jisung by calling him big bro too.
Exactly. By putting him on hiatus instead of suing, they make room for more insane wierdos to do this in the future. This person has gotten what they want. I don't trust anything that SM says about them "taking legal action" because it rarely ever happens. Kun was on live one day, and a comment said, "I want to join SM."
He legit said, "No. There are better options put there."
@@katgreer6113 Good for him to say that. They are not blind and us either. SM needs to be bitchslapped and lose all his artists. Those artists can build an other company so they can get better and better at their craft.
They have been ever since they caved to the fans who bought SM shares to get their way. It should’ve never made them hurt their artists. So many cave now about any time a single rumor gets whispered anywhere around the world. This is stupid.
I think they're gonna hide him for over a year and then tell us he's left, like they did to Lucas 😭😭😭😭😭😭
True and that's the type of sh*t I don't want.
Nooo
Naurrrrr
That was my first thought.
But Seunghan's case is NO WAY similar or close to Lucas's Lucas one was so complicated while Sughan did nothing but having an ex gf or smoking (as far as we know) For me I do.t see it as a reason to be kicked out
We haven't learned a damn thing from Woojin, Jimin, Soojin, Garam, Lucas and Ravn. How many more idols do we have witness lose their careers due to lies and misinformation before we actually put our feet down?!
Hoping they learn is like being delusional at this point 😭😭
We enable too much disgusting behaviors on this community tbh
exactly…. i don’t know what to do but we need to band together
@amyleelymab6thats not what a sasaeng is learn the definitions of words before you spam them
It's crazy how this keeps happening, and how this is definitely not the last time it will happen
Not a RIIZE fan but it's awful that he's had his privacy violated and then had to apologize for it. It's too bad that companies give in to the pressure from delusion fans smh
On a serious note, it takes a lot of effort and time to try and tear somebody down just because you don’t like someone. We've seen way too many cases of this happening and k-pop stans, especially on twitter and tik tok, have proven themselves to not have learned from the past situations.
I truly hope that SM actually take action and hopefully bring back Seunghan ASAP. It’s so sad that a potentially close friend of Seunghan is probably behind all this.
You mean “friend”
dude actually like report anyone who slanders and spreads rumors we need to band together😭😭#makekpopbetter
Is jealousy , and that jealousy will kill them one day
He had a normal life before being an idol?! THATS CRAZY?!!!! I hate that he had to apologize TWICE for having a life. I hate he’s apologizing because his privacy was invaded. Also SM please actually act on your words. If you gonna threaten to sue then do it! Protect your artists please this goes to all companies.
RIIZE is 7
Seunghan will make 7
We need him to be in the group
I feel sorry for Seunghan, he didn't do anything wrong. He shouldn't be punished for things that are normal for people his age. I'm very disappointed in SM and hope they bring him back eventually.
What pisses me off is that Seunghan had to aplogize TWICE for being human and having a life like normal people. Like, what part of "Idols are human too" is not clicking to them? This is why we always have these types of problems in SM. SM never does anything nor get thier shit together at all. Watch, Seunghan might be the Lucas 2.0. I knew this was going to get worse. If SM would do something before, then none of this would have happened.
SEUNGHAN I'M GONNA GET YOU OUT OF THERE I PROMISE /ref
I never liked SME and how they handle their idols' false allegations that tears apart idols' image. I will never forgive them for kicking Lucas out instead of investigating those people behind those accounts which were sasaengs. The fact is, many people still believe sasaengs over actual facts because they love drama in K-pop, just look at Woojin too who still got no apology and still faced backlash from false serious allegations. Seunghan's case shouldn't be about him smoking or having an ex-girlfriend (and lets be real many idols talk about their ex's in school and no one cares anyways), as he didn't commit a crime or anything. If the focus was on the livestream, many have pointed out that this was mistranslated and very out of context, but again no one cares and runs away with whatever was given to them. Honestly though, it makes zero sense as to why SME ALWAYS takes this route and whoever told their idols to handle situations like these which are very defaming and false, since it makes the idols actually look guilty.
Yes unfortunately no matter if it’s a big medium or small sized company I always have something I don’t like about them but ofc no company is perfect
Exactly!!!
I think I went off enough on Twitter. But yeah. I’m so upset to see this. The community has enabled such horrifying norms.
An idol misspeaks or does something that can be misinterpreted? They’re a (insert your favorite form of bigot here)
False accusations? Believed without question.
Idols getting hate for having a love life? The company makes the idol apologize and face repercussions.
This is not right. This should NEVER be seen as right. I’m so done with this community and how juvenile, gullible, and ignorant it can be. If this continues, KPop is doomed. It’s already seen as the most toxic community and non-KPop stans avoid it like the plague.
I know I’m being harsh. But the community needs to wake up. People’s lives are being destroyed all because stans feel entitled to manipulate the trajectory of their careers. These idols are people. Not gods. And definitely not SIMs characters.
If people are going to cry for idols to be treated like people, it starts at home with fans to lead by example.
🗣️Speak on it! I always hate how low key hypocritical some people are when they say that “Idols should be themselves”, “Idols should be able to talk more freely”, and “Idols should be able to interact with other idols or whoever they want to” etc. but in the very next breath stupid things like this happens. If I, myself, am tired and exhausted of the idiotic hiatuses and the like. I can’t imagine how idols must feel to have their lives being quite honestly controlled by gullible fans/overreacting fans.
I hate how the moment a rumour is created and spread, most k-netz just believe it by default. No fact checking, no actual THINKING done beforehand, they're apparently just so naive that they believe EVERYTHING.
EXACTLY! It’s just the same when kpop fans say “they are humans too” but right after that they go hating on other idols. These fans need to wake tf up!
and after these fans destroy a idols life then they turn around and have the audacity to preach about mental health is important. its honestly disgusting that this is how fans are treating idols now.
You know at this point I really want K-pop companies to stay away from the fans. Instead stand by the idols, of course depending on the situation. These companies are letting fans want the cake and eat it too so often. These people have trained, waited to debut, and work hard to entertain us. All for them to end up with nothing and slapped with a “hiatus” a.k.a kicked out. I don’t want hiatuses to be used against idols, I want it to be used FOR THEM, when they’re stressed, have anxiety, need to recover from idiotic people online and/or idiotic fans online. At the end of the day, these are just normal people here to entertain us with music, game interviews, promotions and the like. Not here to have their lives ruined for stupid reasons.
I was genuinely shocked to see that SM actually clarified that the rumours were fabricated and malicious. We knew that the rumours around Lucas were fabricated but SM never defended him. Not that this gives me much more hope for Seunghan but at least it's something. Like you said, all we can do is wait and continue to show our support. I'm 100% rooting for him to make a full come back as soon as possible ❤
So why is he on indefinite hiatus then.
@@lovelynikki2476 protect him from haters. Apart from that, Seunghan and SM have to deal with the police and courts not just once but many times, this will conflict with Riize's schedule.
@@lovelynikki2476 Apart from that, for the sake of seunghan mental health, imagine that you have spent years practicing to achieve your dreams, but destroyed by your 'friends.'
SM probably didn’t defend Lucas because he’s not Korean. It was clear that everything was fabricated and they kept silent.
@@ohdudehesflirting yeah can’t help but agree with you there
They are literally ruining this young man's life. And for what? So they can feel powerful and able to control idols. Zero empathy.
The kpop industry is moving backwards.
its just not the same anymore.
EXACTLY!!
The horror of hearing "Indefinite hiatus " and immediately thinking of how Lucas has been in the dungeon for almost 3 years now.
yup and lucas was literally the only reason i got into nct
I really wish SM didn't let him apologise. He had nothing to apologise for. If he really felt bad, he could've done it in private to his members but not to the public. Apologising to everyone for being a normal kid is just ridiculous. He is the victim in all of this.
I really hope he does comeback and SM protects him.... knowing SMs track record, i dont really have much hope😓
It feels like I'm being delusional hoping these obsessed fans will understand they're human and not some toy made for their fantasies 😭😭😭😭
And when idols take their own lives , everybody's sad and wonders what happened
literally it’s hypocritical.
His scandal isnt too serious to kick him out from the group ...but it was shown like he did some huge crime I seriously hope he comes back .. I really like him as an idol
this whole situation just makes me very sad..... im so sorry for seunghan and other members 😞what a world we live in...
The real people in the wrong are those who invaded his privacy and spread false information. I saw some of them make “apologies” on twitter after sm’s statement. I hope sm will actually follow through on suing them even though it’s too little too late. Personally I don’t know if I can continue stanning riize without seunghan. He’s not even my bias but he’s so integral for the performance and relationship of the group. I hope he can come back so the group won’t be incomplete.
SM's biggest mistakes regarding Seunghan other than forcing him to go on hiatus as if he did anything wrong is making him apologize the first time and again this time around. Although he did nothing wrong, both apology statements are like an admission of guilt, so even though both of the antis who have been slandering his name and reputation both came forward to confirm that they were lying about their accusations against him, many people don't want to believe he's innocent because in their minds, they think that there's no reason why he should have apologized if he wasn't guilty, so he HAS to be guilty since he DID apologize twice. Other than that, the way SM handled this situation made everything all the more worse for him or should I say, the way they DIDN'T handle the apology because it should NOT have taken many more private photos/the IG live with Soobin getting leaked for the company to FINALLY take ACTUAL legal action, which, knowing SM, I wouldn't be surprised if, at the end of the day, they don't go through with taking legal action because when have they ever really truly protected their artists? I just hope Seunghan can overcome this and be able to return to the group, even if it takes him a while, and considering SM's stocks literally took a swan dive right after it was announced he would be going on hiatus, it would be in their best interest to actually clear his name, sue these people, and keep him in the group unless they want to fumble the bag with RIIZE.
Was he forced to go on hiatus tho?
@@g0ldenicecream obviously he been kicked out
@@Rinadharb98 No, he hasn't been kicked out. He's on hiatus, which means there's still a chance he'll return to the group, so let's not assume things please and thank you
@@g0ldenicecream There's been speculation that he chose to go on hiatus himself as during a fancall fanmeet, a fan asked him what he would like to tell the fans and he said that everything would be okay soon with no context, which happened shortly before he was put on hiatus, so people think he knew he was going to go on hiatus, knew that SM was going to take legal action, and made that decision himself. That's just speculation though, so as far as we know, he was forced to go on hiatus and knowing SM and how they operate, that's likely what happened.
This whole situation is just horrible and really bothers me. I really hope he can come back to the group and continue to do what he loves. K-pop fans can be so toxic and hateful. I hope people can learn to be more kind and empathetic in the future.
I live completely on the other side of Korea, but I'm fortunate enough to have a small store near my home where I buy all my albums and merch from.
I walked in one day and one of the girls who runs the place was laughing because SEVENTEEN fans had been coming in all day dumping photocards on the counter saying they didn't want them anymore after finding out one of the members was dating.
The whole thing is nuts.
I don't care how many BTS albums you own, Jungkook is NOT going to start dating you.
I feel so sick now.... ;( I hope he doesn't leave. I got all attached and now I'm kicking myself for it.
what the hell is wrong with these fake fans????
SM feeds on saseang and haters..like they are so incapable of protecting their artist. May they learn from other company who works to give the artist the best and takes stringent action against the haters.
SM should protect their idols and put up stringent rules/laws for haters if any as such incident happens.
Exactly and the Korean government but do they give a hoot? Nope they don’t
SM always does this! Instead of actually taking legal actions, they send their artists to be on hiatus for who knows however long. SM enabled those netizens in a way. Every time there's a scandal, their only solution is hiatus but it never solved anything or made the situation any better. Dating in kpop industry should be normalized. They are all grown adults. They shouldn't be apologizing for dating. It's totally ridiculous. I hope Seunghan will get to come back to RIIZE. It's literally haeartbreaking that this happened to him even before his debut. Hopefully, he'll surround himself with a better group of friends or people who genuienly care for him not someone who's looking to take advantage of him and take him down and destroy his reputation.
Sm announced that they take legal action, n a lot off acc who spreads fake rumor just closing their acc n apologize to seunghan
He better get no more time than Hyunjin! He JUST became my bias. He needs to be back ASAP! This shit is getting out of hand!
How long was Hyunjin's?
@@soniaigwe3546 about 6-7, 7-8, or 8-9 months
you know what saddens me, Hyunjin's situation was unfair but he was lucky that he was already a very popular and influential member of the group and it happened about 2/3 years after his debuted so that when he came back, he didn't have an issue blending back in.
Riize barely debuted. When, and I say when because I'm am claiming it that he will definitely come back, when Seunghan returns, his group mates would have already solidified their fans within the fandom. Seunghan will be months behind (assuming he is only going to be gone for a few months)
However, Riize was growing but Seunghan's scandal really skyrocketed their popularity. Some people know Riize through Seunghan and others support Seunghan even though they dont Stan Riize. I just hope that when he comes back, everyone will be ready to show him all that support.
@@rhens8088 exactly bruh me too
@@rhens8088 I feel like crying when his part comes in every performance but another member is singing it... he was so charismatic on stage and had a unique powerful vibe to him. I miss him so much every day 💔 I hope whoever did this to him never sees happiness again
Tells you about the toxic, evil fans who act like they’re more perfect than all the kpop idols
I bet somebody will comment, “Well, it’s part of being an idol, good image, blah blah.”
Not even a diehard fan of Riize, but this has happened to a lot of idols who worked hard only to be put on ‘hiatus.’
GUYS PLEASE LET'S SUPPORT SEUNGHAN AND PROTECT HIM LET'S SEND ALL RIIZE MEMBERS POSITIVE COMMENTS briize we still have time to protect our seunghan please let's not give up that easily 🧡🧡
We need to protect them
People are becoming very toxic
I'm so FREAKING pissed! So because he dated in the past, it's a problem?!? An issue?!?! NAH, imma need that twitter account and pannchoa to be off the internet for good! SM better take action and sue those mfers (for real)!
I pray and hope that Seunghan will be able to return to RIIZE in 2024. In a video fancall, he knew that his hiatus was going to happen and told fans to not worry and wait......I believe his words that he will return 🧡🧡
I am waiting for Seunghan to return to riize because he is way too talented to have his career be so short. Seunghan deserves better and seriously needs some new friends
I’m not going to lie, this almost makes me not want to be a Kpop fan anymore. S Korea is still a very conservative society, and I was never deluded by the rose colored vision S Korean media purposely projects to the world. What shocked me is how easily it was for someone to destroy an idol’s career and how fast k fans turned on him. I try to stay in my lane when it comes to K-pop and k culture. I am not a part of the culture, just a foreign fan…however since companies like SM are actively going after foreign money, I think it’s time foreign fans have more influence on idol culture. These companies develop parasocial relationships between fans and idols which is both an emotional and financial investment on the part of the fan. Going forward I won’t be supporting anymore SM artists, not because they aren’t super talented, but because I can’t get emotionally invested in an idol, to then have front row seats to them losing everything so easily. I feel this in general about kpop, unless things change, once the group I Stan now go to the army, I’m just going to be a casual fan who only randomly listens to the music and not get involved with idol culture.
These are young adults who should be seeking healthy relationships and making a few innocent bad decisions. Being an idol is not the same as being a singer in the west, it’s an entire package of someone to be idolized. So I understand the need for idols to be a morally good person in addition to talented and attractive. However these standards can’t be healthy. I would be interested to see the long term psychiatric problems that arise from the environment that these idols are trained in and live under through their teens and early 20s. I’m also hoping this young man is protected by his family because it doesn’t seem like SM cares beyond their bottom line!
It’s just so sad… because of insecure people that realise they can’t date kpop idols they ruin it for all and someone’s career… kpop companies need to put a stand to ts
A few ways they can actually put their foot down is stopping fancalls, fansigns, and that “text your idol” bs. They need to get them as far away from idols as possible and stop feeding into deranged parasocial relationships because people just be getting too close.
@@sraenn right!!! Kpop will be better off without that much closeness I get that’s how they’ve made their money but now it’s toxic
@@Boonies right like they’re putting money before the idols making their money 💀
@@sraenn Sadly, I don't think that'll happen sooner. Companies are pushing idols more by keeping the idols images like they're our friends, bubble, etc. Its just increasing more than it was in the past.
@@sraennI swear I hate fancalls and fansigns.(don't get me wrong ) I know from these fans get the chance to meet/interact with their idols. But now a days fancalls are about 100 aegyo battles and more cringe stuff they say to these idols.(asking idols to act like their husband/bf 💀)Sometimes I think most idols actually hate doing those fancalls and fansigns more than we do.
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You've made very good points. Hopefully, Seunghan will return soon.
SM will never learn from the Lucas situation I guess.
With all the power and money SM
has behind closed doors I am sure they have enough funds to call in a good law firm to investigate into the matter and find out who has been spreading this false/ personal information on Seunghan.
This poor kid has just barely made it into a year of his career and is already having all of these odd things thrown at him. For what exactly jealousy, defamation??. whatever it may be. It is horrible that he and any human being has to go through something as terrible as this is.
Although I’m always delulu but I really hope my idols can get girls, life their life, have a family stay happy forever (and maybe reproduce😂😂) I’ve always found it so fascinating finding out which idols are together it was more fun, blessing and good news for me. Really sucks that so many fans are crazy delulu. let my man live his life, tho I’m not even a seunghan fan. Really hope Seunghan can relook his friend circles and filter out them soon
I can only hope this hiatus is for his benefit, to prevent him being attacked even more, and that he's not just quietly dropped somewhere down the line.
I agree with you on everything, but honestly the vicious cancel culture in KPOP is absolutely insane, and even though the companies need to do better to protect their idols, it's never going to change since now they almost always give in to pressure from these crazies(yes crazies), and make the idols take the fall for nothing more than past dating, smoking, and joking with another idol!! Where does it end? Should we cancel BTS who drink and smoke like chimneys now, of course we shouldn't and won't, and it shouldn't be any different with rookies and their trivial past or current lives! I know today's netizens are different then in the past, but maybe SM should go back to that time and not give in like with Chen of EXO. I feel sorry for Seunghan, RIIZE and everyone else affected and hope they punish those causing this insanity, but "indefinite hiatus" sounds like a "Lucas hiatus" and we know how that eventually ended!!☹️
Thank you for the video Bri! I feel so bad for Seunghan 😢😪
I get the hiatus--if a supposed friend has been leaking my private stuff, I'd lie low too. That's terrifying, to know that someone is watching your every move and waiting for one misstep. He must be under a lot of anxiety and regret for trusting this "friend."
What's ridiculous are the apologies. Srsly. SK's society must end the toxic culture of treating idols like dolls. If agencies want to go global, then they should be more progressive than this. Their entertainment industry must evolve into a safer space for the ARTISTS, not the "fans." After all, it wasn't the "fans" who poured blood, sweat, and tears to train and debut.
XG: welcome to the Puppet Show .... poor Seunghan being betrayed by some ex friends, definitely envious on him. who needs enemies when you have friends like that?!!! Hope SM will do the right thing and stand by their artists. I want to see Seunghan back with Rii7e.
People who wish ill for others and try to bring them down suck. I hope they know they're the worst humans ever.
😩you only live once so what if he’s enjoying his life let him live he’s a human not a robot thanks for the video
If anyone says this is 6 members curse. Its NOT. This is sm bg curse. Remember all the the bgs starting from tvxq to nct. You'll get the answer
This whole situation makes so sad-- thank you for making the video summary!
Seughan is actually an idol with insane potencial, hope he comes back quick..
Bro was made in a lab 😂
SM needs to go after every single person involved in the leak and SUE THE PANTS OFF OF THEM.
The whole situation n has me mad tight. The fact that he felt like he had to apologise for living fucking life
This is why we can't have nice things. I will be devastated if he officially leaves, he's literally so sweet. Who on earth has so much time to be in his business like that?!
i know this is now destroying his career but i'm glad he actually enjoyed his teenage years unlike most idols would to prevent situations like this, it's so sad tho 😞 like you worked so hard, you finally get that hard work paid off but you suddenly have to drop everything because you had some fun back then, it's really sad, i hope he can return but at the same time knetz will hate him so much so... i hope he'll be able to choose what's the best for him
I hope seunghan comes back he has a lot of backing by fans and others but being hates for doing normal things is insane.
#RI7ZE #bringSEUNGHANback 🧡
how much hate do you have to have within yourself to stop at nothing to ruin someones career like this? its just unbelievable .. could never see myself being filled w enough rage to do something like this. how do you plot this and follow through without stopping to think about the impact it will have on someone? or maybe its purposeful, we will never know so its sick to see people jumping to conclusions so fast about a person they know next to nothing about. even more sickening to see these nobodies typing away on a computer at home being able to manipulate real lives like this. regardless of whats true and whats not, the companies should do better.
Sick heaters 😒😒😡😡😡😡
They said and claimed the same mf things about Lucas and that man disappeared just to “choose to leave for solo endeavours” so I don’t trust sm for nothing if I’m being honest
Hey Bri so sorry I’m late had no idea about ur new vid til now. As a Briize he is/was one was one of my bias wreckers and it honestly hurts the fact he may no longer be living but i hope we don’t have to have a situation like Lucas where we literally had to wait over a year just to announce his departure. Sadly I think it’s too risky to have him back in the group as it can cause more damage for him and the members although he did nothing wrong at all ❤
I'm not someone who gets emotionally invested with idols. I poured too much energy on exo and red velver already. But speaking on talent, charisma and visual alone. It would definitely be a huge loss for SM if they actually kick him out. Also its beyond awful that he had to apologize TWICE when he is the obvious victim of a cyber crime.
I want Seunghan back in Riize😭
SM needs a hiatus too, they're doing too much. Lucas then, Seunghan now.😭
I remember seeing RIIZE's reaction to debuting on TH-cam, man they looked so scared, that's right scared, because they aren't dolls, I remember the time I had stage fright while performing in a school event full of people I'm familiar with, and now imagine a idol, freshly debuted and the audience is the whole of Internet. He must have worked the courage to take criticisms, hate, and obsessive fan culture, but nothing could prepare him for the disgusting violation of privacy that he went through, and somehow he's to apologize ??? for SM he is removable, a problematic idol who's better off leaving the group, but if he leaves then we as a community would fail, who would ever want to debut in this toxic industry, Talents will leave heck never have the courage to join at all, I just hope SM understands bending to toxic fans isn't the answer but protection of privacy and clarification on the matter so fans know they're in wrong as well for jumping on allegation bandwagon
Idols, stop apologizing for your life. Its time for you to start telling people to mind their own business. Its time for their company to tell these people to mind their own business. Stop giving these people power over your life. These companies don't care, they will get rid of an idol and replace them with another. Start protecting your idols!
I think the bigger issue is how quickly everyone jumps on the bandwagon with no real evidence. due process is a thing and innocent until proven guilty is the law in Korea too. People having their lives pissed away on the word of some unvetted strangers is not it.
not at all saying Seunghan should be removed, but in this case "no real evidence" isn't applicable. they literally leaked video footage, so the "evidence" is there. the question is is if the things he did is enough to warrant his removal, and obviously the invasion of privacy
If he leaves I won’t know what to do
Can we talk about how cracked out kpop "stans" have gotten. Back in the day idols of opposite sexes can be best friends and have fun on stage and now it's gotten so bad that people get upset over idols about their past which mind you he did his whatever (whocares) as a teenager aka a kid. These people gotta quit crucifying idols for what they've done when they were a kid. Kids do stupid things and who cares. It's going to get to the point where idols aren't going to be able to interact with anyone outside of their group and anyone for that matter. Knetizens gotta fucking chill, they make kpop culture feel so sucky
I try not let kpop affect me but this announcement makes me so mad! This is so unnecessary and why does seunghan have to apologize?
Their so selective. Some idols can do ehat they want and cuss and laugh. But some cant even breath wrong. Their not robots. Let them be ppl
Like who
Although SM loves to disappoint people. The statement is way different from Lucas. SM literally left Lucas out to dry and made us wait 2 years for a lack luster conclusion. But with Seunghan, SM does acknowledge that his privacy was leaked and that they're "actually" doing something about it. I say "actually" because SM loves to lie about doing stuff to protect idols.
All i can hope for is that if Seunghan did decide to take a hiatus with his own will, i just hope he doesn't find it necessary to leave. I am tired of kpop companies bowing down to these Antis.
한국에서 사생활은 민감한 사안입니다
특히 아이돌에게는요
여자친구를 사귀고 담배를 피는게 잘못된건아닙니다
하지만 미성년자가 담배를 피는건 불법이죠.
Sm은 최선을 다했습니다.
Lucas는 사생활이 지저분했죠.
아이돌뿐아니라 배우 개그맨도 lucas처럼 사생활이 지저분하면 한국에서 연예계생활하기 힘들어요.
한국문화라는게 있는겁니다.
당신들이 한국문화를 존중하지않고있는거에요.
저는 승한이가 잘못했다고 생각하지않습니다.(물론 미성년자때 담배를 피운것은 잘못입니다.한국에선 불법이기때문에)
하지만 kpop 아이돌을 하기에는 이미지가 매우나빠졌어요
SM has stuck with some of their idols through scandals, such as Chanyeol, Kai, Irene, Karina, Giselle, Sohee, etc. they haven't failed every time, and Lucas is an exception bc there's more evidence to support the claims rather than refute them (why his largest fan cafes in China and Korea shut down). SM is also known to be the most litigious company in K-pop, which means while they're no perfect angels, you better not underestimate them
@@smithyoonAll the "messy" things said about Lucas were lies spread by sasaengs. Kpop companies should stop bowing to disgusting evil sasaengs.
@@KY-jd1nlThere's Literally zero evidence against Lucas. His fanclub shut down because he was unfairly booted from the groups.
@@KY-jd1nlIm sick of stipe lazy people who never bother to ask why did Chinese govt never open a case or blacklist despite some morn fans demanding it.
Why? Because there was no case. Evidence was fabricated by fly2themoon and Lucas was innocent.
I hope the leader and members of Riize continue to support Seunghan like straykids do to Hyunjin. because Riize is 7 members. It's too hard for me to lose my bias Seunghan even though I love all 7 members. I say this because I once had my heart broken by NCT because I lost Lukas even though my bias was Taeyong, but at that time I loved NCT completely with its 23 members. I suggest that the agency is not affected by haters' double standards regarding pre-debut dating controversies, because pre-debut dating is even acknowledged by idols like Cha Eunwoo and Roowon on TV shows. It's natural for handsome idols to meet their first love before debut
Lol. Even Cha Eunwoo has a girlfriend pre-debut. You don't expect them all to be single pre-debut this ppl need to touch some grass.
its not the fact that he had a girlfriend. its the fact that he went to a hotel, underaged with said girlfriend, and took sleazy cringy pictures of them in bed together and presumably sent them to friends. anton is rumored to have dated seventeen vernon’s sister and no one cared bc their pictures are innocent and cute, not making out in bed
@@charcboiylabagir7194 You seem personally effected by this, it's honestly very strange lol... Sleazy and cringey?? He was a teenager being a teenager for God's sake.
I wish Sunghan would come back to break this stupid delusional circle about idols
I want Seunghan back.
The dude did not hurt anyone, his "scandals" aren't even remotely controversial. SM putting him on hiatus just promotes knets' toxic attitude towards idols. His privacy was breached, they should start suing.
Love you Bri!
I can't not one of the best rookie group seungchan im gonna cry if he the same situation to lucas 😭 they said its hiatus and i hope not they gonna said he ends contract 🥺😡
Semoga tidak ada lagi Lucas kedua yang Hiatus nya sampai kapan sudah mau ke 4 th, semoga Seunghan bulan depan selesai Hiatusnya comeback with RIIZE ❤
Doakan ya kak semoga tahun depan kambek dia ikut tapi masih banyak yg benci dia di Korea kalau di fans internasional tidak huatir Karna tidak terpengaruh,tadi saya lihat yg yang nyebar sudah minta maaf saya fikir SM tidak akan melanjutkan kasus hukum nya ternyata masih lanjut karena tadi ada kabar SBS saya senang semoga yg menyebar kan merasakan hal yang sama yang di rasakan seunghan, walaupun komenan nya isi nya hujatan terhadap seunghan,yg penting pelakunya dapat ganjaran, biar tidak ada orang lain menjadi korban hetters seperti seunghan, saya suka Karna SM sekarang berani biar mereka tidak meraja Lela doa kan semoga dia bisa kembali amin
I know nothing about this group except Sungtaro but this dude has been talked about for months on Twitter bro 😭😭
It feel like someone was out from him
i wish someone would make a documentary about this so the industry would realize how toxic and stupid they all are. if no one dares to take a step, to face kfans….it’s truly never going to change…like idk find another way to make fans engage or gain money but this sht can be going..cause it’s also the reason why so many intl fans decide to drop kpop
Some of these toxic fans are nuts in head, the fact they enjoy to ruin this young Man music career like they done to Lucas over jealousy because He likes to kissing his Girlfriend on Date, these Netizen toxic fans are sick Man, and fact his own Company turn against him because these nasty toxic disgrace jealous Netizen fans I hate these type People and I do hope Karma is coming for them big time just like what they done to both Lucas, and this young Man Seunghan's they invade his privacy not other way around so why should He apologize his group RIIZE should stood by his him like Brothers WTH I guess they think these toxic fans are right instead listen to their real fans but I'm really mad at their Company 😡 really for listen to these ungrateful toxic Netizen fans, We apologize Seunghan for your career by these sick toxic fans..🥺🙏
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I hate hiatus moment.. Really hate it.. Past is past
Never seen one of your videos before. I love listening to your voice! Never hit the subscribe button so fast
I dont think SM is gonna let him back to the group coz they even removed his highlights from official ig account ..disappointing !!!
I thought kpop fans were starting to be more open to idols dating and smoking as several idols in 3rd generation are being shown to dating and smoking, but I guess this does not apply to 4th and 5th generation idols?
I think the most telling thing is them investing in a project like and a album without him. Then it would be truly over and show they have no intention of bringing him back
see fans have power, the power they deserve is to determine the success or failure of a group based on the groups discography, either they support or just let it be if they don't like it. If its problematic then you criticize, when the f*ck did we get the right to determine his career status because he dated, smoked or gossiped? did he kill someone ? hurt someone? did something illegal ? and Seungri's outta jail already, South korea's a f*cking joke man.
i hope seunghan knows that is all ridiculous like seriously, so many terrible things are happening in the world and this is the stuff ppl pay attention to. also i hope he also gets rid of that friend that's behind this like how low could someone be for them to wait for their friend to achieve their dream then attempt to ruin it, jobless behavior 💀. i wish sm would stand up for their artists not chicken out and hide them in the basement 😭
overall, personally I am just really sad about the whole kpop industry. Every ‘ idols ‘ are expected to be “ perfect and blameless “ when they really are not. In the end of the day they are still human beings, who is imperfect and that’s what makes every idol/person unique; they don’t have to be chained to the lies that “ they always have to do right & good & just one tiny mistake they are right away defined as to be a failure. “ every souls of these people are soooo precious, they are more than their talents, they are MORE THAN how good they can sing, dance, how smart they are, how beautiful they are or even how rich and or “ successful “ they are; they are more than that man. They are so so so precious, and whatever they may have done in the past ( that past may look like years and years ago or months ago or a week ago ) it doesn’t matter how their past look like, because they are still sooo worthy to be loved and appreciated like 100%. But yes just overall, I just really do believe that the kpop industry just puts wayyyyyy too much unnecessary pressure on these each precious person; they literally put them in such a ‘ high place ‘. These ‘ idols ‘ should not only be appreciated or even celebrated just because of their good talents ( which i am not saying to not appreciate their talents ) but really more like, we should appreciate their precious life more than anything else. Let us spread love and kindness guys, we must just continue on hoping that whatever may the results be, it will all work things out for the good! #OT7Riize!
#JesusLovesYou!!! #YourLifeIsSoPrecious!!!
So his crime was *checks notes * having a life before being an idol
the craziest thing to me, is that SM has kept the worst possible people ever in the company but put seunghan on hiatus????
If you mean Lucas, please watch other videos on this same channel and stfu.
Well damn… he just debuted 😩🍷
One of his friends is obviously hating him and waited till his debut and posted all the recording lives!!
I don't blame idols for not having none celebrity friends
I heard that person who did all this to him was SM trainee didn't debut but Sunghan did and succeeded