hi. just putting out there one more time that this was filmed and edited before liam’s passing and i will not be covering the death in a video. check out my community post or my twitter/tiktok to keep up with that process and my thoughts. just uploading today because i have a job to continue to do as the world recovers. love you
as a former fan of boys’ world, their disbandment was so sudden??? like they had all this hype, had viral singles, they were (and still are) so loved & underrated and then they’re no longer together…. i blame KYN entertainment for this.
Their disbandment really saddenet and shocked me somehow, although not surprising? Their discography was nothing but banger after banger, I just wish that they would have released an actual Album after their first EP instead of another EP. Maybe that would have actually put them on a map for real. I will miss them dearly, and I hope they are all well!
From a fan perspective it felt like KYN didn’t have the money or knowledge to promote a girl group in today’s entertainment industry. If you didn’t have TikTok to keep up it was like the group dropped an ep then disappeared. No festival, busking, or concert performances to gain an actual audience off TikTok
I also feel like, their manager saw the success of FLO and decided they should try to replicate that with gone girl. They should have kept going in that direction. But caught in your love was THEE sound they needed. Sad they didnt start with caught in your love, or even gone girl cause gone girl fits a wingman EP
the kpop training system was directly taken from motown, a black american record label who used this method on their own black girl groups. it was always a western formula, but kpop definitely popularized it in the modern era.
I think it was obvious from the beginning that’s whoever was managing them did not have a lot of budget and the budget wasn’t getting any better as time ran out. They were probably breaking even (or worse losing money)when it came to cost and that just wasn’t something they could continue.
ugh great video, i loved boys world and was so sad they disbanded but it made sense tbh bc of how much their team didn't support them :/ so many fun, vocally stunning pop bangers fr
i never listened to this group, but the second you said Syco records, i was wary. Their record with groups isn’t great, so im not surprised the management sucked I also didn’t like the name 💀😭 so i never clicked.
i was a HUGE boys world fan and really thought they had what it took to be the next big girl group. i also found their break up super sudden, but that might just be me idk. i dont really think they have as good of a chance to 'make it' as 5 solo artists but ill be rooting for them!
as someone who was a HUGE fan of them and even got to meet them virtually i can confirm that they are the kindest people ever. so passionate about music and genuine about their love for their fans. what i loved the most about boys world is the fact that they had the full package. everyone had their own iconic aesthetic and their own identity. they could all sing VOCALS and dance!! also want to add how active they were on their social media apps! constantly interacting with all of their fans :’)
I was a fan of them but their team failed them they never even had an award show performance or radio play! No promotion at all!!!! Most people do not even know they existed. Blame the label, and team. The girls did everything they needed to do
The downfall of western groups (girls and boys) is something that I believe we are seriously lacking in today’s society. The impact that groups had on my childhood and upbringing was SUBSTANTIAL with groups such as One Direction, Fifth Harmony, Little Mix, PRETTYMUCH, 5SOS, etc. Especially with the recent news of Liam Payne sparking countless of 1D stan pages to flood my timeline once again… it goes to show the community and that these groups live on in us. It’s sad to think that children and teens in today’s society don’t have their modern version of 1D. We need a resurgence of preteen pop culture, kids these days are growing up way too fast.
I think a lot of kpop groups are helping to fill the void left by western groups. KATSEYE is a new group that I have high hopes for. They are considered a global group and have members of different nationalities and ethnicities and their music is fully English. I hope they do well.
Also there's a statement of Queenie abt a random acc exposing queenie unfollowing Mak and Queenie have a twts abt healthy cut off relationship. Also i noticed that only Olivia likes Mak ig posts and it also made me feel like there's also a beef in the girls situation :'
@@user-jx9on3cz3v I don’t think it was the song, I think it was the budget. The song cover was… really bad. As well as the mv itself was super low budget, it looked like something a TH-camr could’ve done not something but an official girl group.
i always wanted to be in a girl group, but eventually just started releasing things solo because i don’t trust managers like this. i think Katseye might do very well though considering the mixed promotional style with Kpop.
i didn’t follow boys world closely but i liked a few songs and always imagined they were doing fine. their disbandment genuinely shocked me bc not too long before that i’d seen chinese netizens raving about them and assumed they’d be promoting in asia soon. i started to see the issues with their team when i realised the only ‘promo’ i saw for them came mostly from their fans, whether it was on kpop stan twitter in threads about international girl groups or under photos of the girls on pinterest. western girl groups aren’t really a big thing anymore but the ppl YEARN for them! we could’ve been eating so good if the right people were in charge. they should’ve had boys world performing on day time talk shows or a least a shopping mall like teen pop stars used to do. there should’ve been tangible boys world albums with photocards! it’s clear that the team just thought they were gonna pluck some girls from the internet and debut them and they’d immediately become ‘a thing’.
i totally agree with u abt the change in direction. i think that change was not only due to the girls getting older but the many ppl who criticized them for being “too childish” & it honestly makes me sad. i personally thought their debut image of bubblegum pop suited them & their brand well & i would’ve loved to see more of that specific image as they went on. +saying a group of teenagers (bc that’s what they were when they debuted) needed to have a “mature” concept so they can be taken seriously is 👎🏾
as an ex-star, the biggest red flag to me was how quick “wywo” era ended & the new era started. like they weren’t even giving these girls time. AND the amount of times tiktok has escaped a nationwide ban should’ve alerted kyn that they couldn’t keep using tiktok forever 🙄
Boys world popped up on my TikTok feed every now and then over the years and I’m finding how now just how many songs they actually had. I only ever knew of two or three. I will say that the reason I ever gave them a shot was bc their styling to me seemed TOO gen z (and I’m say that as gen z myself). It seemed very based on internet styling/trends and for me it lacked visual authenticity. But now after this video I feel bad for not supporting them 😢
The thing I don’t get is why these k-pop companies are making literally survival shows with trainees who has little experience for these “global groups” (hate that term, they are k-pop groups that sing in English), when Boys World are now free agents and could be signed to one of these labels. I hope that happens, because that’d be smart, already have a built in fanbase and could literally grow with a company that knows what they are doing. And my favorite Boys World song is Something In The Water, which to me is a summer song that should have been the song of the summer for 2021. I didn’t like the styling in the video (I though the outfits looked ok, but not for dancing and I don’t like the cover on the single (I also dislike it wasn’t a part of like an album or like a mini album). I also think the video could have had actual water in it, because I think that’s really weird to have no water in a MV for a song about water. I also thought about it, but I think if they could have opened for Olivia Rodrigo, who has that Y2K style, I think they could have boosted their concept more (I also think So What was still Y2k). If I had to explain their evolution, it reminds me of the k-pop group Rainbow (who was/is under DPS, Kara’s and KARD’s label) who started in 2009 with like a girly concept and went into a more mature and sexy concept (which I think was their best concept, very Girls’ Generation meets 9Muses), then oddly went cutesy for a little while, then went sexy sexy when the k-pop sexy era of 2013/2014-2016 came around and then kind of had like one more girly-ish concept with Whoo before they disbanded (it didn’t help DPS shipped them to Japan for a year and literally let South Korea forget about them).
that makes no sense because they don’t sing in korean so how can these global groups be considered kpop? Majority of these global groups are in a collaboration between a Korean & American company except for XG that are from a Japanese company only
@@Anonx000 True in a sense, but then technically Boys World, One Direction, etc. would also be a global group too, but they aren’t. It’s the way they are made, the training, group direction, marketing. I mean even Kateye’s debut mini album is in the style of a k-pop album, rather than a jewel cd case like most western artists. And the fact most k-pop groups nowadays have full English songs on their albums/singles, feels like the lines are blurred a bit.
@@adamsmoberly because katseye is partly managed by hybe so ofc the way they promote them is going to be the same as a kpop group the whole point of creating the group was to follow the kpop methodology which made kpop groups successful globally and imo is the best way to promote a group, something that western groups lack
I said on a previous video of yours that *someone* should carry the legacy of our queens Little Mix, I didn't necessarily say these girls would do that. Honestly, ANYONE can fill the void of Western girl groups at this point 🤫
No shut up they made Confessions by LOOSSEMBLE?! I love when my faves come together 🥹 I really loved the group and their disbandment was so sudden and sad fr.
If the group would have lasted longer if they were promoted in Asia early in there career as groups are more accepted and can be more popular than soloist musicians in Asia
The first time I saw the group and their name my first thought was "oh, this must be some girl group that's all about being boy obsessed and caring about what men think.", I hate to admit that it did indeed turn me off and I only listened to them after a song of theirs played randomly for me on Spotify. It's such an odd name to me.
They debuted too early. They should’ve released girlfriends in 2021 not 2020. 2020 was peak covid months where a lot of concerts got canceled and they had their nickfest festival cancelled. I think flo was supposed to debut in 2021 but pushed it back to 2022 just to take full advantage of covid protocols starting to lighten up. They took too many music hiatus without giving content. A big reason groups K-pop groups and western groups like fifth harmony and one direction gained loyal fanbases was because they did well in cultivating parasocial fandoms. They were constantly releasing content and promoting everywhere and gave enough content for people to write fanfics, make fun edits, speculate drama, etc. Another that stuck out to me big was regarding the group cohesion. Olivia didn’t fit in the group 🤷♀️. All the other girls were smaller than her and seemed to be 5’3 max but she was like 5’8-5’9 and she was never put as a center position. I guess it’s because she couldn’t as dance well as the others but it just made it more obvious.
@@hallooos7585 so many talented girl groups in america that never get recognition but it’s the complete opposite in asia where they loveeee girl groups
@@09803xi honestly think some of these are drama bot comments bc there’s always at least one on katseye/boysworld commentary videos. they always give the same energy as the top comment under a popbase tweet.
I saw the disbandment coming from a mile away... 🫤 unfortunately, nothing was sticking and having once stanned Prettymuch. I expected the same outcome.
hi. just putting out there one more time that this was filmed and edited before liam’s passing and i will not be covering the death in a video. check out my community post or my twitter/tiktok to keep up with that process and my thoughts. just uploading today because i have a job to continue to do as the world recovers. love you
stay strong darling 🥺❤
love you jasmine, please take care of yourself. i am grieving right along with you
love you jas, take care
love you! take care jasmine
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Crazy that they were disbanded just like that when groups like Flo & Katseye are gaining so much traction with the public. KYN fumbled so bad!
the entertainment is so dumb, these can be their spotlight to have exposure for having more international ggs
as a former fan of boys’ world, their disbandment was so sudden??? like they had all this hype, had viral singles, they were (and still are) so loved & underrated and then they’re no longer together…. i blame KYN entertainment for this.
Their disbandment really saddenet and shocked me somehow, although not surprising? Their discography was nothing but banger after banger, I just wish that they would have released an actual Album after their first EP instead of another EP. Maybe that would have actually put them on a map for real. I will miss them dearly, and I hope they are all well!
An album most likely wouldn't have put them on the map if singles and eps couldn't.
Loossemble is a k-pop group so it’s actually pretty cool that they were able to write a song for them!
ORBIT SPOTTED RAHHHHHHHH STAN LOONAAAAA
really?? which song
@@chaeffected2711confessions/cotton candy. Confessions resembles the demo most, but cotton candy uses the same instrumental
From a fan perspective it felt like KYN didn’t have the money or knowledge to promote a girl group in today’s entertainment industry. If you didn’t have TikTok to keep up it was like the group dropped an ep then disappeared. No festival, busking, or concert performances to gain an actual audience off TikTok
I also feel like, their manager saw the success of FLO and decided they should try to replicate that with gone girl. They should have kept going in that direction. But caught in your love was THEE sound they needed. Sad they didnt start with caught in your love, or even gone girl cause gone girl fits a wingman EP
the kpop training system was directly taken from motown, a black american record label who used this method on their own black girl groups. it was always a western formula, but kpop definitely popularized it in the modern era.
confessions was supposed to be a boys world song hence why they have writing credits. there’s a boys world version on youtube
im glad loossemble got that song tho it fits their new album sm and i would've never listened to it if it was released by boys world
I think it was obvious from the beginning that’s whoever was managing them did not have a lot of budget and the budget wasn’t getting any better as time ran out. They were probably breaking even (or worse losing money)when it came to cost and that just wasn’t something they could continue.
14:00 petition for boys world to reunite and give it one more try with jasmine in charge im so serious that could work so well
ugh great video, i loved boys world and was so sad they disbanded but it made sense tbh bc of how much their team didn't support them :/ so many fun, vocally stunning pop bangers fr
i never listened to this group, but the second you said Syco records, i was wary. Their record with groups isn’t great, so im not surprised the management sucked
I also didn’t like the name 💀😭 so i never clicked.
@@thisisavivistanaccount7866 U should listen!! their songs are so good
check out the British girl group Say Now please!! they are so talented and can sing and also are besties too! defo a girl group to check out x
i was a HUGE boys world fan and really thought they had what it took to be the next big girl group. i also found their break up super sudden, but that might just be me idk. i dont really think they have as good of a chance to 'make it' as 5 solo artists but ill be rooting for them!
@@ellaronci2703 hey u never know they might do well as solo artists!
@@ellaronci2703 makhyli seems to be gearing up a solo debut soon!
@@user-jx9on3cz3v i know!! im so excited!
they deserved so much better
as someone who was a HUGE fan of them and even got to meet them virtually i can confirm that they are the kindest people ever. so passionate about music and genuine about their love for their fans. what i loved the most about boys world is the fact that they had the full package. everyone had their own iconic aesthetic and their own identity. they could all sing VOCALS and dance!! also want to add how active they were on their social media apps! constantly interacting with all of their fans :’)
this is so nice 🥺
I was a fan of them but their team failed them they never even had an award show performance or radio play! No promotion at all!!!! Most people do not even know they existed. Blame the label, and team. The girls did everything they needed to do
The downfall of western groups (girls and boys) is something that I believe we are seriously lacking in today’s society. The impact that groups had on my childhood and upbringing was SUBSTANTIAL with groups such as One Direction, Fifth Harmony, Little Mix, PRETTYMUCH, 5SOS, etc. Especially with the recent news of Liam Payne sparking countless of 1D stan pages to flood my timeline once again… it goes to show the community and that these groups live on in us. It’s sad to think that children and teens in today’s society don’t have their modern version of 1D. We need a resurgence of preteen pop culture, kids these days are growing up way too fast.
I think a lot of kpop groups are helping to fill the void left by western groups. KATSEYE is a new group that I have high hopes for. They are considered a global group and have members of different nationalities and ethnicities and their music is fully English. I hope they do well.
@@crystalsnow1138KATSEYE has a variety of ethnicities and nationalities though, not strictly a K-pop group
You forgot Why Don’t We. They were a boy group from 2016-2022 so disbanded very recently
@@caitlingill I said Katseye are a global girl group, not kpop. The kpop groups I was talking about was reference to other groups, not Katseye.
@@caitlingill Yes! I always would hear about them but I never checked them out unfortunately.
Also there's a statement of Queenie abt a random acc exposing queenie unfollowing Mak and Queenie have a twts abt healthy cut off relationship. Also i noticed that only Olivia likes Mak ig posts and it also made me feel like there's also a beef in the girls situation :'
im to see queenie and mak falling out ):
I feel like mantrum has the down turn, that's when i saw started seeing people clown them.
the way mantrum wasn’t even that bad like if any other group or artist released it they would be eating it up
@@user-jx9on3cz3v I don’t think it was the song, I think it was the budget. The song cover was… really bad. As well as the mv itself was super low budget, it looked like something a TH-camr could’ve done not something but an official girl group.
@@Xonatirose yeah ur right I didn’t like the cover art either
i miss them so much
I think makhyli will pursue a solo career soon judging from her pics and her website
i always wanted to be in a girl group, but eventually just started releasing things solo because i don’t trust managers like this. i think Katseye might do very well though considering the mixed promotional style with Kpop.
i didn’t follow boys world closely but i liked a few songs and always imagined they were doing fine. their disbandment genuinely shocked me bc not too long before that i’d seen chinese netizens raving about them and assumed they’d be promoting in asia soon. i started to see the issues with their team when i realised the only ‘promo’ i saw for them came mostly from their fans, whether it was on kpop stan twitter in threads about international girl groups or under photos of the girls on pinterest. western girl groups aren’t really a big thing anymore but the ppl YEARN for them! we could’ve been eating so good if the right people were in charge. they should’ve had boys world performing on day time talk shows or a least a shopping mall like teen pop stars used to do. there should’ve been tangible boys world albums with photocards! it’s clear that the team just thought they were gonna pluck some girls from the internet and debut them and they’d immediately become ‘a thing’.
Queenie is working as a sales associate currently
makes sense judging by the location of some pics/tiktoks!! thank you for answering
Noooo 😭😭 thats so sad
NOT EVEN JOKING I FOLLOWED THEM ONE DAY BEFORE THEY DISBANDED😭
i totally agree with u abt the change in direction. i think that change was not only due to the girls getting older but the many ppl who criticized them for being “too childish” & it honestly makes me sad.
i personally thought their debut image of bubblegum pop suited them & their brand well & i would’ve loved to see more of that specific image as they went on. +saying a group of teenagers (bc that’s what they were when they debuted) needed to have a “mature” concept so they can be taken seriously is 👎🏾
can you do a deep dive like this on a group called RLY who also disvbanded in july
@@saraeljon5012 they disbanded?? Why did I not hear anything about this :(
ex member luena got tea on RLY’s management and the situation. Her song come out in November
@@nat_7998they just announced it on a fan group chat on IG we had with them … gonna miss them :(
@@nat_7998 bc they only announced in a fan groupchat on instagram so fans had to let others know 😭
it's so unfortunate that they had to disband. my favourites songs are gone girl and tiptoe.
I am a big Loossemble fan and will forever be grateful that they received Confessions 🥺🙏
as an ex-star, the biggest red flag to me was how quick “wywo” era ended & the new era started. like they weren’t even giving these girls time. AND the amount of times tiktok has escaped a nationwide ban should’ve alerted kyn that they couldn’t keep using tiktok forever 🙄
Boys world popped up on my TikTok feed every now and then over the years and I’m finding how now just how many songs they actually had. I only ever knew of two or three.
I will say that the reason I ever gave them a shot was bc their styling to me seemed TOO gen z (and I’m say that as gen z myself). It seemed very based on internet styling/trends and for me it lacked visual authenticity. But now after this video I feel bad for not supporting them 😢
GIRL GET INTO LOOSSEMBLE!!!!!
The thing I don’t get is why these k-pop companies are making literally survival shows with trainees who has little experience for these “global groups” (hate that term, they are k-pop groups that sing in English), when Boys World are now free agents and could be signed to one of these labels. I hope that happens, because that’d be smart, already have a built in fanbase and could literally grow with a company that knows what they are doing.
And my favorite Boys World song is Something In The Water, which to me is a summer song that should have been the song of the summer for 2021. I didn’t like the styling in the video (I though the outfits looked ok, but not for dancing and I don’t like the cover on the single (I also dislike it wasn’t a part of like an album or like a mini album). I also think the video could have had actual water in it, because I think that’s really weird to have no water in a MV for a song about water.
I also thought about it, but I think if they could have opened for Olivia Rodrigo, who has that Y2K style, I think they could have boosted their concept more (I also think So What was still Y2k). If I had to explain their evolution, it reminds me of the k-pop group Rainbow (who was/is under DPS, Kara’s and KARD’s label) who started in 2009 with like a girly concept and went into a more mature and sexy concept (which I think was their best concept, very Girls’ Generation meets 9Muses), then oddly went cutesy for a little while, then went sexy sexy when the k-pop sexy era of 2013/2014-2016 came around and then kind of had like one more girly-ish concept with Whoo before they disbanded (it didn’t help DPS shipped them to Japan for a year and literally let South Korea forget about them).
that makes no sense because they don’t sing in korean so how can these global groups be considered kpop? Majority of these global groups are in a collaboration between a Korean & American company except for XG that are from a Japanese company only
@@Anonx000 True in a sense, but then technically Boys World, One Direction, etc. would also be a global group too, but they aren’t. It’s the way they are made, the training, group direction, marketing. I mean even Kateye’s debut mini album is in the style of a k-pop album, rather than a jewel cd case like most western artists. And the fact most k-pop groups nowadays have full English songs on their albums/singles, feels like the lines are blurred a bit.
@@adamsmoberly because katseye is partly managed by hybe so ofc the way they promote them is going to be the same as a kpop group the whole point of creating the group was to follow the kpop methodology which made kpop groups successful globally and imo is the best way to promote a group, something that western groups lack
THE FACT THAT THEY ANNOUNCED THE DISBANDMENT ON MY SADDEST BIRTHDAY IS SO SAD
I miss them
I said on a previous video of yours that *someone* should carry the legacy of our queens Little Mix, I didn't necessarily say these girls would do that. Honestly, ANYONE can fill the void of Western girl groups at this point 🤫
KATSEYE is strong contender.
damn I'm late. I've never heard of boysworld in my life but really their music is great
GONE GIRL FTW!!!!!
I’m so sad Gone Girl never had the moment it deserved 😢
This is off topic, but on the thumbnail I thought that the girl with the high ponytail, (closest to Jas) is Ariana Grande LMAO
yes she was once in boys world actually!! LMAO
No shut up they made Confessions by LOOSSEMBLE?! I love when my faves come together 🥹 I really loved the group and their disbandment was so sudden and sad fr.
If the group would have lasted longer if they were promoted in Asia early in there career as groups are more accepted and can be more popular than soloist musicians in Asia
The first time I saw the group and their name my first thought was "oh, this must be some girl group that's all about being boy obsessed and caring about what men think.", I hate to admit that it did indeed turn me off and I only listened to them after a song of theirs played randomly for me on Spotify. It's such an odd name to me.
I get what you mean. I really dislike (dare I say hate) the name but the music is great
They debuted too early. They should’ve released girlfriends in 2021 not 2020. 2020 was peak covid months where a lot of concerts got canceled and they had their nickfest festival cancelled. I think flo was supposed to debut in 2021 but pushed it back to 2022 just to take full advantage of covid protocols starting to lighten up.
They took too many music hiatus without giving content. A big reason groups K-pop groups and western groups like fifth harmony and one direction gained loyal fanbases was because they did well in cultivating parasocial fandoms. They were constantly releasing content and promoting everywhere and gave enough content for people to write fanfics, make fun edits, speculate drama, etc.
Another that stuck out to me big was regarding the group cohesion. Olivia didn’t fit in the group 🤷♀️. All the other girls were smaller than her and seemed to be 5’3 max but she was like 5’8-5’9 and she was never put as a center position. I guess it’s because she couldn’t as dance well as the others but it just made it more obvious.
the Olivia one doesn’t make sense since there’s always been one taller members in groups
It maybe label sucked but didn't worked, and that why it failed
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I’m new here but that mic looks so heavy bestie omg is your wrist okay?
i mean.....they would been outsold by katseye anyways if they stayed as a group.
It would have been nice if western groups could co-exist like in the past sigh
@@09803x definitely!!
@@09803xThey can’t cause it’s too late to compete with Kpop agencies unless they start hiring experienced employees from those kpop agencies
@@hallooos7585 so many talented girl groups in america that never get recognition but it’s the complete opposite in asia where they loveeee girl groups
@@09803xi honestly think some of these are drama bot comments bc there’s always at least one on katseye/boysworld commentary videos. they always give the same energy as the top comment under a popbase tweet.
they dont have star power and the group branding was not very appealing
wdym they don’t have star power..
i had a beautiful journey in Boysworld so thank you to everyone that supported us and continues to support us individually!🫶🦇
makhyli 🥺 we’re so ready for ur solo music
I saw the disbandment coming from a mile away... 🫤 unfortunately, nothing was sticking and having once stanned Prettymuch. I expected the same outcome.