Alternative Burial & Green Burial

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  • @gillbateman1575
    @gillbateman1575 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    My husband is in a natural burial grounds and they plant a tree on it. It will eventually become an old English wood. It is overlooking a bird sanctuary. It's lovely. In UK Wrabness burial ground. Have a look it's on fb

  • @cassandralandry1096
    @cassandralandry1096 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much for being so informative and honest and open about the career. I have looked into becoming a funeral director for many years and you have answered so many questions I have thought of.

  • @michaeldougfir9807
    @michaeldougfir9807 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Kari,
    This has been another good, worthwhile episode in your "series."
    One of the last things you said was your desire to educate people about mortuary matters. Good for you! I respect you so much for this.
    For people reading this I think it would be hugely important to set out a writing tablet and write down your mortuary related questions. Leave the tablet out and every time you think of something go write it down. And wherever you take those questions just be sure to get real, authorative answers.
    You know I have been raised in a construction family, mostly in small Western towns, largey in and near the mountains. So I know well the things people guess about or assume. And that applies to my current retirement job of tree care, and very much to my 21 year career in mortuary work. So, I greatly believe in sharing information with people. And you are doing it too. What I have a hard time tolerating are what I call Beer Stories. (In the Navy they were called Sea Stories.) To me there is nothing worse. It misleads people, misdirects their thinking and can cost them a lot of money. They need to ASK. Are they dealing with a tree problem? ASK. Are they about to lose a loved one? ASK. Have they lost a loved one? ASK.
    And I suggest the tablet list so people can remember each question. Get real and meaningful answers.
    By the way, some day when you do get into that bar fight, tell the straight story about it. Not the Beer Story version.
    Hey something I want to point out. For those who think they want a green burial, how about having a wooden casket, cotton clothing, and leather shoes and a bottomless vault. It accomplishes the same thing without extra expense. Even I could go for that and I have no respect for trends and fads.
    Where I am we have transitioned from a couple of varieties of concrete vault, (one of which was bottomless anyway,) to a modern plasticky type thing. (To me everything is "plexiglass".) But to get the matching bottom is a separate purchase. So whatever casket you get, it will end up on the dirt in the bottom of the grave. Unless you pay for a matching vault bottom.
    Here is the last item. It concerns a quality check. All the mortuaries I worked at sold a stainless steel casket. I suppose the idea is so the casket is metal but will not rust.
    Well how do you make stainelss steel? As you make it you put less iron in it. Now test it. I took a strong magnet out of a microwave oven that no longer worked. I tested several models and brands of stainless steel casket. Some attracted the magnet more than others. NONE that I ever saw were minimal or resistent to the magnet. Why? Too much Iron in the metal. So how is that casket spposed to resist rust in the vault or in the ground?
    I tried the magnet on the mortuary refrigerstors that the public doesn't even see. There was very little or no attraction on the stainless steel bodies of these fridges. The good side is the high quality of the refrigeration unit your loved one may have to spend time in. I just wish it applied to the casket, which is the show piece of the funeral and that you like to think of as holding your loved one.
    See? Ask.

  • @loriadams7724
    @loriadams7724 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh my, I first read the title as Alive Green Burial, and made me think that people were buried alive in a shroud in the dirt. As always, great information Kari.

  • @blythedewey7793
    @blythedewey7793 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When I began following you I had no idea you were in Wayland, MI. I'm from Wayland and have had multiple family members buried there. How nice :)

  • @piscesinblack
    @piscesinblack 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    From "The Analysis of Burned Human Remains": "the major elemental constituents of cremation remains are calcium and phosphorus, presumably from the hydroxylapatite in bone (which consists primarily of calcium phosphate). The rest is mainly assorted trace metals, which exist in relatively minute concentrations in the human body and don't vaporize at the temperatures typical of a crematorium furnace.
    Virtually all organic matter, comprising mainly oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, and sulfur, is oxidized into a variety of simple compounds and is removed as a mixture of gases in the furnace fumes (and perhaps some finely dispersed, light solid particulates).
    Consequently, what remains is largely inorganic and non-calorific in nature. While the mineral and metal content of the ash can be dissolved and subsequently absorbed by various organisms in trace amounts, there's probably little or no organic material left that can be metabolically decomposed by bacteria, fungi, or plants as a direct energy source. Of course, there are chemical processes that can further break down the ash and isolate specific components via redox reactions (dissolution in strong acids to give salts, electrolysis, etc.), but obviously that's distinct from biodegradation."

  • @Em22-wtf
    @Em22-wtf 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They also now make tattoo ink, with ashes of your loved one... I don't think it's a good idea myself, lol, I'm good w just an old fashioned in memory tattoo!
    I just seen a post for a Kickstart campaign yesterday on FB for tattoo ink made from hair. And one of their selling points was in memory of a loved one that passed, clip their hair, and for pets too... Umm, no thanks on that too, lol!

  • @ginggur17
    @ginggur17 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    We saw the body world exhibition when it was over in Amsterdam. Was totally amazing. I think it’s currently in New Zealand. That was astonishing.

  • @Em22-wtf
    @Em22-wtf 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    We just had one of those exhibits last yr. I couldn't get anyone to come w me!
    Also, I make memorial jewelry with a pinch of the ashes, for friends who would like to have it done. It's just use a tiny bit, and they have the rest, that they do whatever with. Usually they take a pinch out before it goes in an urn. Sometimes they even take a scoop, give me the tiny bit, and they put the rest in something else they keep in home. I don't put it in gems or anything crazy like that... Usually just a tiny little jewelry specific bottle. I love mine, that has my aunts ashes in.

    • @alton791
      @alton791 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve heard of people using some of a person’s hair as part of that jewelry.

  • @1234singingismylife
    @1234singingismylife 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Our cemetery does not allow scattering of the cremains. The statement I received was “due to wild animals it is not allowed “. They informed me I could not put the cremains under the grave marker. Like you say, what you don’t know you don’t know! But since I missed that opportunity, my two furry friends that have been cremated and my stepfather’s cremains will be put in my casket and buried with me.

  • @michaeldougfir9807
    @michaeldougfir9807 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I side with Jenn. Your hair was very nice.

  • @janiebenz6649
    @janiebenz6649 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your reply

  • @samasiaskipperable
    @samasiaskipperable 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Could someone purchase say two acres and allow people to place loved one in say a wicker basket so they decomp naturally? You mentioned having a place for antenatal death the client could then be moved to a smaller area to accommodate a new client. I guess that would need to be commercial zoned❓❓

  • @Raisingdolls
    @Raisingdolls 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ❤❤❤

  • @mariannedubois9658
    @mariannedubois9658 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why would sending the residual liquid from a liquid cremation down the drain differ from natural burial breakdown into the soil?

  • @Tommy-gj9kn
    @Tommy-gj9kn 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's what I want- Green burial

  • @crimson-pine
    @crimson-pine 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My friend said she's doing the "mushroom suit" burial, like what actor Luke Perry was buried in, which looks like a dark shroud and it's implanted with mushroom spores. The body is put into this cotton mushroom spore bodysuit and put 4 ft into the ground. Wacky but true. Cost: $1,500 for this burial method.

  • @jelinaross1850
    @jelinaross1850 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Bible says you should not be cremated or spread your remains your ashes around , you can be cremated but the ashes have to be buried in the
    ground! That’s according to the Bible , Jesus Christ was wrapped in a shroud
    and thinking I’m thinking I want to do a natural buried thank you for sharing, God bless you always amen

  • @Erikatmartinez
    @Erikatmartinez 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    QUESTION! I don't want to be embalmed. When my dad passed we were sold a group of spots as a discount so I already have my plot. I know here in Michigan we have to have a vault. Can I just be washed, dressed and have a wicker coffin with a small service the day after I die at the cemetery? Or do I have to have a standard casket and have everything handled by a funeral home?

    • @JaimeMesChiens
      @JaimeMesChiens 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Muslim and Jewish people do not embalm. There is no law that requires embalming.
      Make sure that you have this in your advanced directive, NOT your will.
      Your will will not be seen until after you’re dead and buried, so make sure your family knows and that you get the proper forms to sign and have notarised.
      You do not need a lawyer for this document.

    • @Erikatmartinez
      @Erikatmartinez 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JaimeMesChiens This was posted two years ago. I've already done all this through my family lawyer, advance directive and the cemetery.

    • @alton791
      @alton791 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Embalming in America is not legally required. There are some circumstances where it might be needed or cold storage. Examples would be where a funeral or other disposition might be delayed while waiting for the family to gather or if it’s a legal matter (like homicide or paternity cases) or transportation such as a person dies in one place but that person will be buried in another state or country. But no, under most circumstances, embalming is not required.

  • @amandabailey1004
    @amandabailey1004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kari I have a question? So when I die I don’t want to be embalmed Bc it’s a very scary thing to me (I know it’s silly 🥺) but I don’t want all that stuff put into my body even after death. But my husband said he doesn’t want me to do that Bc then he would be forced to hurt me the day after I die. Is there a way to have a green burial but not be buried right away? Maybe like 3 days after? But I would want my family to view me.

    • @KaritheMortician
      @KaritheMortician  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes you can if the funeral home has cold storage and the laws of your state allow that.

    • @amandabailey1004
      @amandabailey1004 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KaritheMortician I live in FL. I will have to look up our state laws regarding this. Thanks for the reply 🤗

  • @anonz975
    @anonz975 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are wild animals an issue in nature preserve natural burials? Here in the South all of the 19th century family plots have fences or low cement walls around them supposedly to prevent pigs from unearthing the body or livestock from stepping into decayed caskets.

  • @angelmarandola7987
    @angelmarandola7987 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My huband drowned we put his ashes in the ocean because he Loved fishing and thats how he died in a boating accident

  • @DenitaArnold
    @DenitaArnold 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you had questions about burial at sea?

  • @David49305
    @David49305 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I argue that embalming and making up a person is unnatural and strange. It has added to society's fear of death as it is so far removed. I know there are many morticians out there that believe in what they do but embalming is rarely necessary and should be avoided unless there is an unusual circumstance.

    • @David49305
      @David49305 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Multiply that by millions of people and your are destroying the water supply and the ground. I have never seen an embalmed corpse that looked alive. That would freak me out.

    • @David49305
      @David49305 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Um, that doesn't make sense. You don't bury someone who is alive. Do you honestly think they are embalming living people? You don't wake up once you are dead...

    • @David49305
      @David49305 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Embalming is not required in the United States nor anywhere else. I understand your fear but with today's technology, that is virtually impossible. An embalmer will know if the person is still alive. In the 1800's science wasn't that great and a lot of mistakes were made.

    • @davidc3857
      @davidc3857 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree, embalming is quite unnatural & invasive to a body, I believe it grossly violates a departed loved one.

    • @davidc3857
      @davidc3857 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ShrinkDavid 1982 People have been known to "wake up" or come out of a coma in the middle of an autopsy, there have been people who have been alive & been discovered by funeral directors prior to embalming, and this has been within the past few years! Not often, I'll grant you that, but it's been known to happen that some folks weren't dead in fact to start with, their cardio pulmonary system was so shallow that it wasn't detected and they were pronounced dead, only to find out later that it was a medical oversight or error in judgement. Either way, I'm not going to be embalmed, it's envasive and absolutely hideous in my personal opinion...

  • @peterdoszczyn6164
    @peterdoszczyn6164 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Since you had been in England with an English funeral home. Why is there one person dressed in an outfit who walks in front of the funeral cortege?

    • @KaritheMortician
      @KaritheMortician  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Search my channel for this! It is under a 2 minute on conductor.

    • @JaimeMesChiens
      @JaimeMesChiens 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kari Northey I love the conductor tradition.
      It’s such a show of respect.

  • @chickenmanedbrown8054
    @chickenmanedbrown8054 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's interesting when I go to the auction sometimes I see cremation urns being auction off. Nine times out of 10 they have family members ashes in a. Could never feel why part of families being auction off at an auction house in Florida. So I do some studying.I ask questions found out somebody had their household items property in storage. Didn't pay their rental fees so they have storage auctions sing some pretty nice yearns people spend a lot of money to get them but they have somebody who remains in them. It puzzles me what the people to do with the ashes if they're going to dump it who knows what.I get asked questions what's it like to be dead for 5 and 1/2 hours because I had my heart surgery lot of people are getting ready to go for surgery and scared not to come back what's it like. To comfort the thought. It's definitely Peace and quiet nothing but a blank. Also I feel with the cremation thing in the future. they have a big giant tractor trailer cremation unit come right on the property. With the technology they got they'll take 30 minutes to cremate a body. Healthy quick and painless save the government a lot of money and hassle free. Eventually in the future United States government. Is 2 save money in politics that will be mandatory for every person hits the age of 60 will be euthanize. So they won't be no such thing as social security and SSI and medical bills and nursing homes. My grandfather work for area 51 in Arizona. With the government I remember he was telling me when I was a kid he said there be medical technology that they won't have to cut a person open to do surgery.. it's fun and good and educational to watch your video. Because I share them a lot of people that are looking for answers that are hard to ask the questions of this subject. Yours truly Chicken Man from Inverness Florida take care.

  • @pkh4340
    @pkh4340 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the traditions in New Orleans on St. Joseph's Day is to scatter the cremated remains of a recently deceased love one into the Mississippi River after the St. Joseph's parade.

  • @tonimoon6346
    @tonimoon6346 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the impression that the full green cemeteries will eventually be sold & developed. So a lot of remains could end up under pavement & buildings like king Richard iii. Some of them bury people only a few feet below surface level, so a body will likely be sniffed out by scavengers...animals will detect the smell way deeper than that & dig for a snack...rules, greed & the church make this whole thing stressful. It’s crazy, dude! 🤪

  • @ashleyprovence26
    @ashleyprovence26 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have u ever been in a green burial cemetery? Is there an odor of any kind being how the person is not embalmed? Do people who are not embalmed and were buried to decay naturally have to be buried deeper to prevent animals from trying to dig up graves? Just curious? Thanks 😊

    • @alton791
      @alton791 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The body has to be buried deep enough, typically 3-4 feet, so that scavenger or predator animals like coyotes or lions can’t smell it. & they’ll also go for the “easier” meals like a dead dog on the side of the road. Because of this, it won’t smell.

  • @alton791
    @alton791 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn’t know there was a green burial council. I’ll be looking into that. I’m sure you & your subscribers know about some universities have “body farms” because of certain forensic science programs. I have a question. Is a funeral director required to go through the mortuary science program & be a mortician in order to fill that funeral director position?

  • @destinyequality7243
    @destinyequality7243 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had to stop at 26:20 seeing my father laid out 6 months ago didn’t really make me feel better. Because several years ago I had dreamed he died and was laid out he just was in a different casket. I did tell him about the dream and he chuckled about it. I never dreamed of a live person dead laying in repose before if I think about it more like 15 years ago around the time my 26 year old brother died. I’ve been told I’m intuitive but when it was real I kept thinking this can’t be real he’s gonna jump out of this casket any minute it didn’t happen. I totally forgot to take a rose to put on his casket my friend/Sister had one for me. Handed it to me. When you talked about the father being on the ground with leads with his eyes open that’s how my father was taken out of the yard so I was told and taken to the emergency room to be resuscitated it wasn’t until I got a copy of his death certificate that it became real not the wake,not the mass not the burial the death certificate. A large piece of paper with a lot of information on it. But anyway I currently live in New York where green burial is not very accessible. But like you shared about your niece you can have a home wake but nobody takes the time to learn these things it probably cuts back on cost. I appreciate your videos and I would be interested in reading a book or books on your experience Time is of the essence and waits on no one. 🌹

  • @David49305
    @David49305 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I disagree with you 100%. There is nothing in the human body that is going to harm the environment. Formeldahyde, for example, is bad for the environment but a body is natural and natural burials were done for thousands of years before the gimmick of embalming caught on.

    • @David49305
      @David49305 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      There has always been this myth that bodies are dangerous and putting them directly in the ground is somehow going to make people sick. This simply isn't true. Any viruses and bacteria die off pretty fast once the heart stops beating. Unless we are talking about an unusual case, anyone can be buried straight in the ground and there is no health risk. However, there is a health risk when it comes to putting the chemicals from embalming in the ground. That stuff is nasty.

    • @scharf74
      @scharf74 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ive watched this 3times looking for where she said that a natural burial was harmful to the environment. And I can’t find it.
      I DID see where she said that burials and cremation leaves the same footprint.

  • @davidmiller6981
    @davidmiller6981 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Going green near Elmira N.Y in green burial allready built my own toepincher coffin wood dowell no screws creeps out my neibours when they see it in my garage they told the HOA i was breaking law that was not good then i put coffin on saw horses in front of garage every morning just because i can push there buttons old ladys can't mind there own knitting

  • @TwistedMemaw
    @TwistedMemaw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Myself, my husband, daughter and son-in-Law went and saw that body in plastic exhibit when it came to St Louis. It was amazing! It showed the body in a running position, laying, doing a somer salt.....every movement the body can do!!! They even has an entire pregnancy! Each month of gestation and the birth. You really need to see it! Some bodies are set up to show the muscles, some to show the tendons, the blood vessels etc...So please go see it!!! They do tell each person’s
    background/story.

  • @jerrybaker433
    @jerrybaker433 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thats disrespectful of someone to scatter remains on private land without asking

  • @verahoward2341
    @verahoward2341 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good morning Keri i

    • @KaritheMortician
      @KaritheMortician  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello!

    • @verahoward2341
      @verahoward2341 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KaritheMortician have a blessed day and keep up the good information. Thank you!

  • @carrievaughn9442
    @carrievaughn9442 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about the park.

    • @carrievaughn9442
      @carrievaughn9442 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A friend of mine died after they crammed she wanted to be creamed so I scared her in the river. Is it legal

    • @KaritheMortician
      @KaritheMortician  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No it is not legal

    • @KaritheMortician
      @KaritheMortician  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You must get permission from the state

  • @patriciacurnutt7669
    @patriciacurnutt7669 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it legal to bury your pets on property where you live?

  • @alenabrice2199
    @alenabrice2199 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do newborn babies, young kids and Teen's get cremated!

  • @cdcarter621
    @cdcarter621 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You talk about the human body harming the environment with a green/natural burial; what about the known cancer causing agents formaldehyde, methanol, glutaraldehyde, etc. in embalming fluids? I believe that is way way worse than the natural compounds our bodies produce during the decomposition process. Also, most all scary bacteria, viruses, etc. die off within a few hours after death, because there is no living system for them to gain energy needed to survive. You’re a death care giver, you should know this stuff.

    • @cdcarter621
      @cdcarter621 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kari Northey So you are completely okay pumping a corpse with compounds like formaldehyde, methanol, glutaraldehyde, and so on and putting them in the ground? There are no state laws in place in the US that require embalming, except in a few places that may require it when you transport them across state lines. No not every little thing does off right after we die, I did say most, there are a few that last a little longer but most of those are the big scary diseases like Ebola for example. I am all for green burial/green funeral; I also really like the idea of Alkaline Hydrolysis(basically a cremation using hot water, some lye, and pressure), it’s a whole lot more friendly to the environment; hopefully one day before I die it will be available in my state.

    • @cdcarter621
      @cdcarter621 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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    • @cdcarter621
      @cdcarter621 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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    • @cdcarter621
      @cdcarter621 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kari Northey So what would you tell a family that came in requesting your services and asked that their loved one not be embalmed and wanted a viewing and other funeral services? Surely you wouldn’t tell them it wouldn’t be possible. I cannot wait for Alkaline Hydrolysis to become available nationally for human remains, because I think it is a wonderful technology.

  • @laurieanderson9250
    @laurieanderson9250 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I spread my ashes at FSU?

  • @jerrybaker433
    @jerrybaker433 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know id object