Compare Jura ENA 8 and E8 Bean to Cup Automatic Specialty Coffee Machines
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- Push a button for lattes, cappuccinos, flat whites, coffee, espresso and more made from whole beans ground fresh. We compare the Jura E8 G2 and the slim and stylish new Jura ENA 8 automatic specialty coffee machines. These mid-range Jura machines have similar price points and capabilities. Find out why you might choose one over the other as you learn about their differences. Plus we take your questions during the live stream.
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Just bought a new E8 today, great video
Nice 👍 Thanks a whole latte for the comment!
Love my Jura S8 , such a great taste and the froth is great
Hi GMGF, That's awesome - thanks for sharing!
Marcv
Hi Mark. Excellent review. Can the ENA8 be voice controlled with the Google Assistant?
So I like espresso drinks as a treat every few days but my morning ful cup of coffee is a must. I can’t find a smoother tasting coffee than my nespresso Vertuo full size regular coffee. Any drip machine I’ve tried makes THE WORST burnt tasting regular coffee. Does the Jura coffee taste as smooth as the espresso? Or is the espresso the start in these machines?
Hi r, Thanks for the questions. Both of these Jura machines change how they brew based on the drink being made. For espresso, the machines both use PEP: Pulse Extraction Process. For larger coffees, PEP is not used to avoid over-extracting the ground coffee. I'm drinking a coffee made on the ENA 8 as write this. I also need a full cup ASAP in the morning! Burnt taste might be more about the coffee used. Mine does not taste burnt. Both machines have adjustable grinders. If coffee has bitter notes, one can adjust the grind size coarser to correct.
Hope that helps!
Marc
Hi Mark, I love your videos of all the different brands for super automatic machines. On the Jura ENA 8, the interesting cylindrical water container has what appears a very large filter in it. How much water actually gets in there when the filter is in? It looks like it displaces a significant amt. of water.
Hi Bruce, Thanks for the kind comment. I had the same thought when I first saw the filter in the reservoir. Just measured and the filter displaces ~4oz/120ml of water. Looks like it would be a lot more given the apparent size but the upper portion is a carrier and is hollow.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage I just bought the Jura ENA8 last week and have been using it trying all the drinks, etc. It's a lovely, clever and makes great tasting espresso/coffee. The TNT screen tells you when to fill the tank with water, change the filter, which is nice. I find the water tank so easy to remove and fill anyway, Jura has made up for size!
HI ...I am comparing the ENA8 and E8 for my home use. I have a couple of questions:
1. Is the milk frother on the ENA8 adjustable (like the E8)?
2. How big is the bean reservoir on the E8.
3. What do you do with the milk tube when you are done making coffee in the morning?
4. What's the difference between the E8 15270, 15097 and 15271?
Thanks
Hi Patsi, Thanks for the questions!
1. No, it's a single froth type on the ENA 8.
2. 9.9oz bean capacity on in E8
3. Rinse
4. 15270 is black, 15271 has chrome color front panels, 15097 is an older model with a different milk frothing component a dial adjustment instead of newer lever.
Hope that helps!
Marc
Thanks..E8 is on it's way to me...
@@Wholelattelovepage Hi, with regards to the milk frother, would you say it produces a vastly different product, or is it just a matter of difference in one is a lever type as opposed to the other being a dial? Thanks in advance
I think Ena 8 far better because of ONE place for cup at least!
Hi Mark. thank you for all the great videos.
I have just purchased an E8 for my wife(I don't drink coffee) and she loves it.
Mark I noticed in one of your other videos that you like a "flat white" on occasion.
My wife too likes a flat white and loves the taste and texture combination(not much froth). Our machine is the latest version(without the adjustable foaming lever thingy).
For my wife her Flat whites have next to no froth. Is there a way to almost NO froth out of the(settings) automated FLAT WHITE cycle?
Again thanks for all the great videos😃 (gee, I wished I liked coffee!!)
Regards
Peter
(Australia)
Hi Peter, You are welcome for the videos!
Yes I do like a flat white - if I do milk drinks I like them more coffee forward in flavor.
I'm a bit confused. Are you saying she gets too much froth now and wants less? There are no adjustments for froth type in settings for milk drinks. A couple of ideas if that's what she's looking for. Raise the spouts as far as possible above the cup when making the drink. A longer drop to your cup can help break up the bubbles. You could do the espresso and then do the milk into a separate cup. Then pour the milk between 2 cups to break up larger bubbles and then pour over the espresso. Or do the froth into a separate cup, preferably a milk frothing pitcher and knock and swirl the pitcher to break up larger bubbles before pouring over espresso. Not certain that's what you were asking but hopefully it helps.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage hi Marc, we'll try that, thank you.
Very detailed presentation.. Great job Marc!. Love the Jura .Have the J9 and its great for entertaining. Jura has come a long way in its technology since my model came out over 10 years ago. Only just started to use it again, as i have been utilizing my ECM for a while.But theirs no comparison in the coffee brew for using a semi automatic to a fully automatic machine?
Hi J, Thanks for the comment! Jura has done an excellent job. There PEP brewing was a big advance in espresso quality. Semi-autos def have the capability of producing exceptional quality but it does take skill and knowledge to get there. Super-autos are great for consistent, quick, easy convenience.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage indeed!.. It's the art of making the best coffee every time
What is the biggest difference (other than $500) between an ENA8 and E6?
What’s the temperature like with the milk on the ENA8? Is it nice and warm? I don’t want it to be tepid like my old delonghi .
Hi Rhys, Milk temps from machines which automatically froth run 125 - 140F/52 - 60C. That's in milks sweet zone and the temps well trained baristas use for best flavor. Final temps depend on starting milk temp. If you prefer extra hot milk you might consider a machine with manual frothing which gives you complete control of final milk temperature. The Gaggia Accademia has manual frothing and an auto-frothing carafe. Also has a heated cup warmer. In our tests the Accademia carafe dispensed frothed milk at 136F/58C from milk starting at 45F/7C. If interested, you can learn more about the Accademia in this video: th-cam.com/video/jZWS38_Jge4/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the vid. Was v. Informative.
Glad it was helpful!
Marc
How strong are the espressos for the A1? I don't want milk from a tube that I have to clean but it would be great to have just my shot made maybe if its comparable to manual espresso. I'm on fence of that or bambino plus...thanks!!
Hi michelle, Thanks for the question. No doubt you can make a stronger shot in a single go on a manual machine but it's a lot more work than pressing a button and the machine does the rest. The A1 has a max coffee dose of 10g per brew cycle. Run 2 short shots and you'd have a stronger espresso than on the Bambino.
Marc
Thanks for the review. Do either of the machines come with a milk pipe or is that a separate buy? Can we use milk from a regular mug or would one need a dedicated Jura container? Thanks
Hey jk, Yes the machines come with a milk pipe. You do not need to use a Jura container so can drop the milk tube into just about anything.
Marc
Where did you get all your cups? Thx
Thanks mark. does this machines capable of making silky(micro) foam? I don't like an airy foam, most of the super autos are awful on the foam department!
Hi sg, Thanks for the question. It's not super-fine like what you need for pouring latte art but very close. It's finer than most IMO. With the ENA 8 it's one density. On the E8 one can change the density from fine to traditional cappuccino type airy. Hope that helps!
Marc
Hi Guys.
I've seen a few reviews about the ENA8 that the milk isn't hot enough. Has this been sorted out in these machines?
Hi AA, These machines produce milk at about 140F/60C which is what a well trained barista will do. Milk is at its sweetest at this temp.
Marc
Thanks alot
Is there a way to make coffee art with any of this? I saw somewhere that you can buy an little accessory that allows you to froth manually. I’d like to buy the Jura if I can also have the option to manually froth. Seems the only automatic where I can do this is the gaggia academia
Hey Sunny, Thanks for the question. No accessory I'm aware of for manual frothing on Jura machines. For Gaggia machines which come with an autofrothing Pannarello Wand there is the Latte Art Wand which can do both automatic and manual frothing by removing the sleeve. The Gaggia Accademia and Babila models have a built in manual frothing wand in addition to automated frothing from a carafe. There's also the Gaggia Magenta Plus and the Gaggia Cadorna Barista Plus which have traditionally styled manual frothing wands. Both can froth to latte art quality. Wand on the Cadorna model is longer than the Magenta's.
Check them out here:
Gaggia Cadorna Barista Plus: www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-cadorna-plus
Gaggia Magenta Plus: www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-magenta-plus-super-automatic-espresso-machine
Hope that helps!
Marc
Hy mark,can the super automatic espresso machine,do for busniss rather using semi automatic?
Hi RJ, The super-automatic are designed for home/office use.
Marc
Hi! Does the ENA 8 come with Smart Connect?
HI BK, Thanks for the question. It does not. It's an accessory available here: www.wholelattelove.com/products/jura-smart-connect-bluetooth-adapter
Marc
Another question I can adjust is the amount of coffee beans in my drink? in ena8 oer e8?
Hi MB, Thanks for the question. Yes, use the strength setting to adjust the amount of coffee ground for each drink.
Marc
Can the E8 do ground white coffee in the area where decaf would go?
Hi Lisa, Thanks for the question. Honestly not sure what you mean by "white coffee". The pre-ground coffee doser often used for decaf can use most any pre-ground coffee with exception of coffees with added flavorings. Hope that helps!
Marc
Have you noticed any collection of unused grounds in the rear of the drip tray and machine? For either the ena8 or e8.
Hi PC, Yes. It's normal and why there's a tray separate from water drip to catch.
Marc
It would be nice if machines came with laminated cheat card to help get the users the most out of all the features.Scrolling menus are a pain in the butt.
Hi Matt, What's the need for cheat card? Machines have color pics of drinks on the screen. Or just use the APP and smart connect and order by voice!
Marc
Jura ENA Massive Aluminum is the latest model of Jura?
Hi GP, Thanks for the question. Yes the ENA 8 is the most recently released Jura machine.
Marc
Which one to choose ena8 or e8?
Here's a link to a side by side comparison of specs and current pricing which may help: www.wholelattelove.com/pages/compare?products=NDQ5MDMwNjU4NDYzMCwyMjk5NTI0NDgxMDc4
For 1-2 users I'd prefer the ENA8. If more than 1-2 users then the E8.
Marc
How exactly do I clean the milk system and how often, on the E8. Also on the E8 the post brew coffee pods are damp. Is there a problem that needs fixing?
Hi William, Here's a link to the E8 manual for instructions on cleaning the milk system: us.jura.com/-/media/global/pdf/manuals-na/Home/E8/E8-v18/download_manual_e8_e80_na.pdf?la=en&hash=5372676AF568FC3D78474ECE87DE3AB9C2F49235&em_force=true
It's not unusual for the coffee pucks to damp. Depending on grind size setting, strength setting and coffee type you may have some variance in dampness.
Marc
I have to laugh... machines half the price of these make drinks in the right order... they just don't have the profit these have so you conveniently don't know about them. Then again, another brand you do carry does it and you make the same comment on that brand as well
Hi ff, This video stuck to comparing Jura machines. You are correct, some Gaggia machines flip the milk order as well. This video was made a couple of years ago - so even more now than back then. Jura machines - especially a couple of years ago generally had higher price points for same drink features as competing machines. Where the were different was in ease of use features and aesthetic design.
Love the comparison, thank you! Really feeling the ena 8 aluminum!
Great to hear!
Hi
Wish you and your family And the whole team is safe from Covid.
Hi A, Thanks and same for you and yours!
Marc
Can u pls tell me which kind of infusion group is Jura using ?…. Is it metal or plastic kindly …
Hi msg, The brew unit does contain plastic parts.
Also, can you use dairy alternative milks (e.g. oat or almond) in any of the Jura machines?
Hi, great review. I have Jura E8, I would like to ask if there is somewhere in the setting, where it will notify or alarm you that coffee beans is empty or water is empty and is not enough to make coffee? My Jura E8, continues making coffee even if the coffee beans or water container is empty, and I ended up with just milk. It just continue working even if one of the ingredients are missing. Not getting any warning to refill the water or coffee first, before it will start making the coffee.. Would appreciate your comment. Thanks a lot :)
Hi e, The E8 should alert you to fill beans, add water. I would contact Jura customer support here for assistance: us.jura.com/en#
Marc
Great presentation!!! 1. If space is not an option, which machine is your preference? 2. What coffee bean do you recommend?
Hi guys! I have some videos on my channel. How to repair and maintenance an espresso machine. So your coffee will always taste better if you do DIY maintenance and repair to your espresso machine.
"We'll make a lot of drinks."
Don't you mean a "latte" drinks? Dadjokesfordays
Hi Ben, As a newly minted grandfather myself I can say I like your pun a "whole latte"! My daughters hate my dad jokes. "Hey dad, I'm going to take a shower" My response: "When you're done can you bring it back?" For me that one never gets old!
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage I love everything about that response. As a father to be I'm hoping it comes naturally. We'll see. Also, congratulations on being a grandfather! May the puns be with you, always.
The Smart Connect doesn't come with the Ena 8
Hi Marc, You are correct - it's compatible with the Smart Connect Bluetooth adapter
ENA 8 is an iconic, gorgeous design!
Hi DM, Thanks for sharing your opinion! She's very pretty!
Marc
will the app work if the machine is off?
Hi Roy, Thanks for the question. It's a common one - unfortunately the machine must be on for the app to work. Cannot turn machine on using app.
Marc
Would you recommend E8 over ENA8 if space is not a concern?
Hi guys! I have some videos on my channel. How to repair and maintenance an espresso machine. So your coffee will always taste better if you do DIY maintenance and repair to your espresso machine.
u r simply the best here. thanks making warm around us sharing all these with us. 👏😘😊
Hi AS, Thanks for the kind comment!
Marc
Are Jura made in Swiss.
Hi Gaeton, Jura machines are designed in Switzerland and manufactured in Portugal.
Marc
With teh E8 can it make 2 different drinks at the same time? If your partner wants an espresso and you want a coffee can it do that with the double spout?
Hi I would like to know if there is any place in NC in Raleigh, that I could see this machine and taste the coffee before buying? I am interested in JUra ENA 8. Only I drink coffee at my house. So that size will be perfect for me.
Hi Cristiane, Thanks for the question. We are an online retailer so have no brick and mortar locations in Raleigh. :(
In the e8 can you do a milk based drink at the same rime as a regular coffee in the other spout? Or can it only do 2 coffees or 2 espressos at once? Thanks
Hey B, Thanks for the question. You can do 2 coffee only beverages at the same time. But cannot do a milk and coffee beverage simultaneously.
Marc
I guess the E8 is the best option if you’re a milk based coffee drinker?
Probably the way to go if you do more milk drinks.
Another question I can adjust is the amount of milk frother in my drinks. on the Jura machine and 8?
Hi Cristiane, Yes you can. If interested in the machine you might like this in-home video review. It'll give you a much better idea of what it's like to use the machine on a daily basis: th-cam.com/video/RG54xUGxPFo/w-d-xo.html
Marc
Can semi automatic machines make a regular cup of coffee? or would you need to go the automatic route?
Hi HN, Thanks for the question. There are options for for regular coffee on semi-autos. Most popular is the Americano - very trendy with coffee lovers for purity of flavor. Here's a video on how to make Americanos on both super and semi-automatic machines: th-cam.com/video/5xOqXnbsWSw/w-d-xo.html
Marc
Hi, I watched many of your reviews. Great channel. What's your view on Miele inbuilt coffee machines? If not Miele, my choice is Jura z8.
Or E8
Hi Nag, Thanks for the kind comment and questions. Unfortunately I have no experience with Miele products so cannot offer an opinion.
Marc
That's ok Marc. Thank you for your reply.
Hi. For ENA 8, can the machine make a mocha?
Pls teach us.
Hi Austin, Thanks for the question. Yes it can but you will need to add the chocolate before or after drink prep manually.
Marc
Hi Marc, what is the temperature of the milk coming out of the spout for these two machines?
Hi T3RM, Thanks for the question. Milk temps out of the spouts generally range from 125-145F. Where it falls in that range depends on ambient factors.
@@Wholelattelovepage my e8 milk comes out at 165f
Is there any Jura model with build in milk storage ??
Hi TM, Thanks for the question. All Jura machines use a pick-up tube for bringing milk to the frothing components. None have internal milk storage. They do have the Cool Control which is a self contained refrigerated accessory for a constant milk supply: www.wholelattelove.com/products/cool-control-34-oz
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Hi Marc, thank you very much for quick reply. I’m torn between Ena 8 and E8 😫 Can’t decide which one should I get.
Can you do a comparison of Ena 8 va Gaggia Cadorna Prestige?
Hi Rollingstone, Thanks for the request. Might be awhile before I get to that comparison. In the meantime here's a video covering the Cadorna Prestige: th-cam.com/video/cXpgP705LB4/w-d-xo.html
Marc
Hi Mark and family - I’m glad you’re well and thank you for taking the time to make this video.
Hi Suzy, Thanks for the comment. Have not hugged the grandson in a few weeks but I'm certainly not alone in stuff like that. Hope you are well!
Marc
Whole Latte Love I totally understand. FaceTime has been wonderful, but not the same as being with those you love.
So far, so good health wise. 😊
Z8??
Hi Linda, Here's my video on the Z8: th-cam.com/video/f189JUynYSw/w-d-xo.html
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Thank you for your reply.
After watching the provided video, I believe I have found the machine that I want (and the With the milk cooler).
So with that, here’s question #2:
We like a full dark roast, We buy our bags @ Costco (Starbucks French roast, or Kirkland branded blends such as Rwanda/Guatemala/French Roast). Used to order a Nice Dark Roast from “Cafe Britt” in Costa Rica (till customs cost heavily increased. So as you can see we love our DARK Coffee.
So hear comes the question: Knowing the above info, and having your knowledge (and your favourites), i ask which BRAND/Type would you recommend for us to try (and why you thought so)
P.S. love the glass cup that you have. Do you guys sell them or recommend a place to purchase.
Once again, Thank you
P.P.S. Love your videos. Keep up the excellent presentations
Great video. I think what ruins the ENA 8 for me is the tiny water thank. Way too small for a machine in this price range.
Hi Paul, Thanks for the comment. Yes, the ENA 8 does have a smaller water reservoir. More appropriate for use by house of 1-2 people who don't do a lot of longer coffee beverages - or don't mind refilling water more often.
Marc
have watched the video, thank you! considering ENA8 vs S8 - very interested in knowing whether the ENA8 allows for saving preferences for various coffees under different names - like Marc's coffee, Diane's coffee?
Also can the SmartConnect connect with Alexa? thank you very much!
Hey AMR, Marc here from Whole Latte love... You are welcome and thanks for the question. You can change preferences for various drinks on the machine but you cannot change the names of the drinks on the machine. With SmartConnect and the J.O.E. app you can save custom drinks with new names within the app and make those from the app. I have only used voice control using the app on Apple devices using Siri. You can download the J.O.E app for Android and Apple here: us.jura.com/en/homeproducts/accessories/JOE?US&US-en& More information on app capabilities at that link as well. I'm not certain, but you may be able to test Alexa compatibility by installing the app on your device without a machine. Hope that helps. There are 2 more videos on the ENA 8 available at this link: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/super-automatic-espresso-machines/products/jura-ena-8-espresso-machine-in-black Scroll down for the videos. There's an extended feature review shot at Jura's US headquarters in NJ and an In-Home review which gives a great perspective on real world daily use.
Marc
Blah, blah, blah about obvious features, but what is inside? What the inner design difference? What the components? What about reliability?
Hi KL, Both machines use similar internal components for brewing and have similar expected reliability. Most important factor in reliability is user maintenance. So use a water filter as recommended by Jura and you never have to descale or descale when the machine alerts to do so. Scale is the number one cause of problems in super-automatic machines.
Marc