Vielen Dank fürs Hochladen. Esa-Pekka ist ein Genie unserer Zeit! Ich habe mir dieses Konzert fünfmal angehört. Während ich hörte, hatte ich das Gefühl, die Sterne zu sehen und über den antiken griechischen Tempeln zu schweben. Ich würde es auf jeden Fall meinen Freunden empfehlen.
Very good decision fans, let only music guide your hearts and never let any evil dare to harm you guys, let's imagine cyber invisible audience next to us enjoying the concert, wishing you everybody never lose passion for exploring new frontiers of classical compositions
@@NDRKlassik Thank you. Two years ago I proofread a thesis on the construction of your wonderful concert hall. A fascinating study, which included the acoustics, seating plan & contracting process. What a marvellous & inspiring vision & project.
Oh wow, look at this! Yes, it is quite a story to tell, I suppose. 😅 It took us a while and a lot of patience, but the outcome is simply beautiful, we find, too! Just awesome that it resonates with so many people all over the world!
Thank you for posting this performance! I get to hear Salonen conduct this piece in two days in Chicago. After hearing your performance here on TH-cam, I can't wait! I have also enjoyed your performance of Esa-Pekka conducting your ensemble in the Mother Goose Suite. I agree with others that your concert hall is wonderful. Wish I could visit in person, but it's a bit of a drive from Milwaukee WI!
This is todays Good News. Somewhat of eclectic music, still with its own shape and personality. Sometimes it reminds me of Arnold Bax: Nowember Woods, or other of his works. What may come? I hopefully wait for a miracle.
Great performance! As always from this orchestra, and I’ve enjoyed all of his music I’ve heard. The bright colors go well in a piece named after a constellation. Some of the music may reflect Castor & Pollux in mythology...I’ll have to find their stories. Thanks for the upload!
Great to hear from an appreciative music-lover in Tokyo. One day I will get to Japan and much of that time will be in Tokyo. This is my first listen to this Salonen composition. Its orchestral sounds are wondrously inventive.
Interesting! I heard "Castor" premiered in Los Angeles as a standalone piece back in 2019. I believe he premiered it not long after Pollux was premiered (also in Los Angeles, I believe), so it's fascinating to hear them both as a continuous, uninterrupted work. If anything, I'm now curious, trying to recall how Castor started back in 2019 without Pollux!
It is process music with bits of melodic writing thrown-in. It's cleverly scored, but when the melodic writing bits come in, they have no content, they are mere decorative lines without any character or identity. Everything is in the surface. Nice sound but no musical content. It is typical 'conductors music', and quite pretentious at that, with all the pompous humbug. It's music for well-meaning and generous audiences who have gravely suffered from unbearable contemporary pieces and are now very happy to hear something that actually has something like a 'nice sound'. So, as far as contemporary music is concerned, progress indeed, but what a meagre expectation and satisfaction.
@@JohnBorstlap Speaking for yourself and having your own opinion is totally fine by me, but claiming to know what other people are experiencing with this music is pretty pretentious, don't you think?
This is both a somewhat mean comment - and spot on! I'm very ambivalent about Salonen's compositions myself. Kindof a guilty pleasure to enjoy them. The thing is: they're very well orchestrated, they do have a real dramaturgy, there's a lot of variety, colors, thematic shapes... But I agree: all of that is a bit on the surface. On the other hand, Salonen's way better imho than that overrated Saariaho or often even Lindberg. But just go listen to 30 seconds of George Benjamin and you'll hear the difference between talent and genius.
Chef d'oeuvre ...d'aujourd'hui. ❤
Great composition,great performance, and extrordinary conducting!!! Congregulations!!! I imagined a ship is sailing in an ocean,and huge waves ...
Thanks for your kind words! Much appreciated 😊
Vielen Dank fürs Hochladen. Esa-Pekka ist ein Genie unserer Zeit! Ich habe mir dieses Konzert fünfmal angehört. Während ich hörte, hatte ich das Gefühl, die Sterne zu sehen und über den antiken griechischen Tempeln zu schweben. Ich würde es auf jeden Fall meinen Freunden empfehlen.
Vielen Dank, das freut uns sehr!!
Thank you for uploading this amazing performance of a masterpiece! Salonen is a genius.
Our pleasure! And yes, we are Salonen fans too! :)
Wow. Great music is still alive!🎉🎉
Very good decision fans, let only music guide your hearts and never let any evil dare to harm you guys, let's imagine cyber invisible audience next to us enjoying the concert, wishing you everybody never lose passion for exploring new frontiers of classical compositions
You can count us in! ;)
Wow!
Not sure if that was a wry smile on the composer/conductor's face after that cheeky reference to 'Mercury' in the second movement...
Beautiful work.
We are glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching!
@@NDRKlassik Thank you.
Two years ago I proofread a thesis on the construction of your wonderful concert hall.
A fascinating study, which included the acoustics, seating plan & contracting process.
What a marvellous & inspiring vision & project.
Oh wow, look at this! Yes, it is quite a story to tell, I suppose. 😅 It took us a while and a lot of patience, but the outcome is simply beautiful, we find, too! Just awesome that it resonates with so many people all over the world!
Wunderschön
Herzlichen Dank! :)
Brilliant! Thank you for sharing 👏
Thank you, it's a pleasure!
Thank you for posting this performance! I get to hear Salonen conduct this piece in two days in Chicago. After hearing your performance here on TH-cam, I can't wait! I have also enjoyed your performance of Esa-Pekka conducting your ensemble in the Mother Goose Suite. I agree with others that your concert hall is wonderful. Wish I could visit in person, but it's a bit of a drive from Milwaukee WI!
You are very welcome!! And thank you for joining us here - it would be a pleasure to welcome you at the Elbphilharmonie one day! Who knows?? :)
Stunning
Thank you 🙏😍
Großartige Zusammenarbeit, danke!
Wir danken für das schöne Lob! :)
Salonen is a genius.
This is todays Good News. Somewhat of eclectic music, still with its own shape and personality. Sometimes it reminds me of Arnold Bax: Nowember Woods, or other of his works. What may come? I hopefully wait for a miracle.
Great performance! As always from this orchestra, and I’ve enjoyed all of his music I’ve heard. The bright colors go well in a piece named after a constellation. Some of the music may reflect Castor & Pollux in mythology...I’ll have to find their stories. Thanks for the upload!
Happy to hear that! The stories of Castor and Pollux are definitely worth a re-read!
Excelente.
Muchas gracias!
quite good ...
Thanks!
The wonderfulness of their exquisite performances is off the charts, and full of admiration and emotion
From
A corner of cherry blossoms scented Tokyo
Thank you! We are happy that you liked it! :)
@@NDRKlassik
Keep up
See you again
Great to hear from an appreciative music-lover in Tokyo. One day I will get to Japan and much of that time will be in Tokyo.
This is my first listen to this Salonen composition. Its orchestral sounds are wondrously inventive.
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Thankyou
From
A corner of Tokyo
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thank you for this post. first time I listen to Salonen the composer. Am impressed. Sibelius a century later?
Awesome! Thank you for joining us!
Interesting! I heard "Castor" premiered in Los Angeles as a standalone piece back in 2019. I believe he premiered it not long after Pollux was premiered (also in Los Angeles, I believe), so it's fascinating to hear them both as a continuous, uninterrupted work.
If anything, I'm now curious, trying to recall how Castor started back in 2019 without Pollux!
Thanks for posting. Nonetheless, I can't resist the temptation to compare the intro to that of Ravel's Daphne et Chloe second suite.
...wow, yes we see (hear) what you mean 😉
It is process music with bits of melodic writing thrown-in. It's cleverly scored, but when the melodic writing bits come in, they have no content, they are mere decorative lines without any character or identity. Everything is in the surface. Nice sound but no musical content. It is typical 'conductors music', and quite pretentious at that, with all the pompous humbug. It's music for well-meaning and generous audiences who have gravely suffered from unbearable contemporary pieces and are now very happy to hear something that actually has something like a 'nice sound'. So, as far as contemporary music is concerned, progress indeed, but what a meagre expectation and satisfaction.
Thank you for sharing your view with us!
The only pretentious thing here is your comment.
@@6695John13 As I described, it is for people like you. I am really glad for you.
@@JohnBorstlap Speaking for yourself and having your own opinion is totally fine by me, but claiming to know what other people are experiencing with this music is pretty pretentious, don't you think?
This is both a somewhat mean comment - and spot on! I'm very ambivalent about Salonen's compositions myself. Kindof a guilty pleasure to enjoy them. The thing is: they're very well orchestrated, they do have a real dramaturgy, there's a lot of variety, colors, thematic shapes... But I agree: all of that is a bit on the surface.
On the other hand, Salonen's way better imho than that overrated Saariaho or often even Lindberg. But just go listen to 30 seconds of George Benjamin and you'll hear the difference between talent and genius.