On the primer issue, I have a question: What are some primers you guys think actually deserve their fame/ actually work? On the other side, are there some primers you guys think are overrated? I love the primed peach primer, by benefit, but absolutely hate make up forever's primers. 🤮.
Honestly I like the e.l.f. color correcting primer. The one I use is green and I have super red skin. While it doesnt drastically correct i mix like 2:1 where one is foundation. I end up using less product, it goes on nicer, and it doesnt settle into my dry ass skin texture.
I’ve pinned this because I would love to see what people say! I personally have been using Milk hydro grip recently and I really like it because it actually helps with my skin texture, I’m oily but dehydrated and the hydro grip doesn’t over hydrate but it also smooths out my dehydrated areas! 🖤 I also think POREfessional is overrated 😑
I have combination skin ( oily t-zone) and for me so far the best was Innisfree No sebum Blur primer. Its not overpriced ( on yesstyle anyways) and it works very good. But i don't use primer everyday. When i just want to cover up some redness or my enormous dark circles 🤣 i just use my face cream as a primer.
Love the milk hydrogrip, I think it really does both hydrate and grip well. I like the essence fresh and fit for when I don’t need makeup to last 12 hours but want to glow, and I like the tatcha one for pore blurring
"I don't care if any of them are watching.... because you're all awful people" God give me the courage to be so honestly savage. Love how much Robert cares and how upfront he is, makes me feel like I am back in school in the best way possible. Professor Robert making me love makeup again.
As a licensed cosmetologist, I wish there were a hygiene-related license for MUAs. I don’t care where you learned to do makeup, but everyone needs to practice good hygiene and it would help to filter out the unprofessional folks
I will be starting my cosmetology studies next year and I totally agree!!! I know I know basically nothing compared to someone who has a certification, but from a common sense standpoint, hygiene is important and also shows respect towards the client!
I went to school for esthetics and I agree. We learned makeup design and infection control even though the focus was skincare. I would've failed my makeup exam if I applied makeup in an unsanitary way.
agreed, i went to makeup designory to become a mua and one of the most important things we learned about was hygiene!! most of the videos where people go to random makeup artists make me cringe
Because a lot of people judging them I hear a lot of that like your old make up don't do anything to you or make up is just for young er people I'm 20btw
Revolution included a couple of older ladies in a conceal and define campaign, and there is a comment on their TH-cam channel complaining about how everyone looked "old".
@@nn-wu2yo i honestly disagree. yes people judge and say this.. but the older you get, the less you worry or care about those things. some brands do use older women but they are the J LO at age 50 type.. not someone who naturally ages and to me, that is the bigger issue
I think our standards for makeup and skin for our own face are alot higher than for others. If I see someone with textured skin and some acne I don't care, but on myself I hate it
At fifty, it's inevitable and I don't care because I can do great makeup looks even on my mummified skin.😄 But I have noticed that some products just don't work on textured skin. Those felt tip liners like the KVD tattoo liner are horrible to use on textured skin. You need to have the eyelids of a toddler to get those to perform well without some serious hard work. 😖
From a disability pride perspective, there's nothing wrong with facial differences (or facial "disfigurement"). Beauty standards usually reflect societal biases about what type of human is best. Society values abled people over disabled people or those with chronic health conditions. So beauty is used to hide any sign of illness, and when some people don't wear makeup they're constantly asked, "Are you sick?" Mustn't look sick, must look %100 abled and healthy at all times. Getting people to accept the "imperfections" in their skin must be part of a larger effort to get the majority to accept people who are not and will never be healthy.
social media has really warped our understanding of what skin actually looks like, & it's sad. people are terrified of fine lines, wrinkles, blemishes, pores, etc. etc. etc. people were obviously insecure about these things before, but with all the filters & editing & photoshop that goes on now, it's all been made worse
You are correct however if someone feels like hiding it that's their own choice. I appreciate tips on how to hide it. When we have alot of makeup on it can absolutely exacerbate the look of it.
I remember when Fenty first showed their foundation range, people were so thankful for that inclusivity. Some of my friends who have darker skin tones couldn't find foundation in their shade from Fenty because they'd sold out instead of it not being available at all. That meant so much to them and a new standard had been set. Plus, isn't it a better business practice to have a variety for a larger group of people to buy your product? Anyways, I really enjoyed this video and I love how restful (but honest) you are about your opinions.
@@rianne_9042 the reason fenty got s hype is bc they launched all the shades w their initial launch, estee lauder, mac, n lancome kinda just added deeper shades as time went on. the reason fenty changed everythings is bc they basically said we're catering to everyone first try.
Controversial opinion: Everyone screams diversity until it includes unconventionally attractive people, then no one cares. I remember seeing this ad a while ago and one of the models made me think of someone from a renaissance painting, she wasn’t technically attractive by our current standards, but still absolutely stunning. So many people were calling her ugly in various ways, tearing her appearance down just to boost up the other models, and it was sad to see, especially considering it wasn’t the first time I’d seen something like that.
However, those who are asking or telling about diversity aren't the same person who are bullying or telling that person that he/she is ugly... But yeah, i understand your concern
This reminded me of one time I saw a woman that seemed like she straight up walked off a renaissance painting. She wasn’t attractive by modern standards, but to me she was beautiful. I wish I’d mustered my courage and told her that. I’ve seen her two times only despite frequenting the place where it happened :c
“Old people can’t wear bright colours?”.....well bless your teeny tiny too young heart! At 52 I’m currently rocking purple eye shadow and getting compliments from many cosmetic counters and asking what pallets I’m using (it’s never theirs LOL).... just wait until this person realizes age is just a number!
That's great. But I honestly think it stems from that awful blue eye shadow and red lip phase. That was popular for them when they were young. It's extremely dated, didn't look good then and doesn't now. And the people wearing it are the ones who are older.
@@jenat82 I personally have never paired blue eye shadow with red lipstick nor would I. In fact, there are so many ways to add color without going overboard.
I’m sick of brands only ever releasing limited edition products. I find a favorite that I want to repurchase regularly to find out it’s discontinued. So then I have to waste time and money finding something else only to have it keep happening.
Ya but then they make more money because you are searching for that color again therefore spending more money on products. It is very unfortunate for the consumer though.
Limited Edition is mostly a business gimmick. They know that if they put the title “limited edition” on something, it makes customers think that if they don’t jump at the chance to buy it right away on full product will disappear and you’ll lose out on the opportunity to get the product again. The same thing happened with me with the brand Too Faced. Sephora and Ulta Beauty sells Too Faced products, especially limited edition, so once the limited edition period was over, those products would disappear out of those stores. It was not too recent when I went on the Too Faced to browse their inventory, only to find that their “limited edition” products are “not so limited.”
@@kristinbagani2811 at sephora they had an amazing body gel that was perfect for my skin and it was discontinued, only to bring a similar product with less quantity and higher price🙃
If someone told me I shouldn't wear colorful eyeshadow b'cause of my age, I'd laugh my butt off and be sure to double down when I knew that person would be around. My bff told me I was getting to old to wear pink, I was dumbfounded. Who comes up w/ this crap?
Don't like the "old people can't wear bright colors " bull. First off, whoever said that is probably 14. That is so not nice. I like the way you answered this comment.
I heard this growing up. I’m only 31, but my mom kept getting drawn to bright and shimmery colors and then giving them to me because she was “too old.” Her make up techniques were not very good, looking back I think she just needed to learn how to use them.
right! i work in a beauty retail job & im quite bright in style, so a lot of older ladies always say “ i wish i could do that” or something of that nature & it kinda makes me sad! like go off girl go dye your hair pink!! put on a bright lippie! live your best life, makeup has no age
Imagine being brown muslim person and never see any muslim girl/boy in any campaign, I can only remember Rihanna doing a makeup on muslim girl in Korea and that's why I love fenty beauty
@@emilygriffith6702 from what I know, in more conservative islamic communities beauty is something that is enjoyed in private, not in public. For example, women will wear bright makeup and expensive jewerly at home, around the family but cover up when going out in public. Also, in a lot of muslim countries parfume is a very important and can probably be considered a form of beauty. Also, in some countries only women's hair is covered so they can wear a lot of makeup in public as well. Altho I might be missing something, all that I know about muslim comes from men from those cultures and internet
I am not focusing on the not so nice comments. I am literally in tears to see that you explained perfectly how it feels to stand in a store & not find a foundation to match your skin. Thank you for speaking for all of us. ❤🥰
As a 50-year-old makeup enthusiast - I completely agree regarding brands needing to be inclusive. Makeup is not for specific races, genders or ages. It's a way for all of us to express ourselves. If a brand only wants to cater to 20-year-old caucasian girls, they are not tuned in enough to get my dollars.
I work at a drugstore and while tidying makeup I noticed a black model in one of the pictures (it was one of the main brands, might have been L'Oréal). It surprised me that I'd noticed so I looked around and realised EVERY single other model on these drugstore brands' promos were white. And clearly the only reason they'd chosen a black model for that product was because it was bright coloured eyeliner, so it stands out more on darker skin, whereas their other products presumably stand out more on lighter skin. These brands don't care about equality or inclusion, they literally only care about sales.
When talking about foundation shades i often explain it like this. I often can't find a light foundation for my irish skin. But the difference is is that im often a shade or 2 above what is offered. But for somone with dark skin tones there are 10 +shades missing from the range. Im definitely odd with my white af skin, but im an odd one out, not an entire community being left out of the foundation party.
I get your standpoint on the one hand, with us extremely pale people not having shades and that not even being slightly as bad as nearly an entire race being left out. Yet I think that it's shit that extremely fair people are being left out of so many brands. More and more deep tones are being added to the shade ranges which is absolutely amazing, yet I think that they should expand their pale shades more.
@@Christina-lv4mu But I guess it also has to do with the culture of self-tanning? Idk about you but I've noticed that A LOT of extremely fair people end up self-tanning. In fact, they are ashamed of their extremely fair skin tones and feel more confident with a tan on. Perhaps that's why brands don't feel as extreme of need to include extremely fair shades? I hope you can educate me on this if you have a different opinion.
As someone who is middle-aged, it's definitely frustrating to not see women and men in my age group represented, especially in skincare. Don't use a 20 year old model to sell anti-aging products and maybe have a variety of older people in a makeup campaign. When older folks are included, the look is almost always the same neutral no makeup sort of look. As Gen-Xers age, we are the generation giving the middle finger to arbitrary rules about how we are supposed to look. I loathe the term, "age appropriate."
But I also would like to see less "smoky eye" looks too! I am middle age (52) and am just really starting to realize how fun make up can be, I'd just like something a bit less dramatic than the smoky look :-)
Antoinette Gingras Hi, Try a Smokey eye in a brown or purple. It’s really pretty on older eyes with the lighter colours, I find black aging. Also I’m 54 and find Natasha Denona eyeshadow colours and shimmers perfect for older eyes, they look beautiful on. Much better than Viseart, Pat McGrath, ABH (although ABH Glam palette is stunning on), MELT, or Charlotte Tilbury. Natasha has a lot of older clients and she designs her formulas (especially the older palettes such as the green/brown 28-pan but also the newer mini glam, gold or nude palettes) for mature eyes. Also I love coloured eyeliners. Marc Jacobs eyeliners have always been my favourites but Fenty have just brought out some colourful eyeliners that are even more waterproof than MJ! I put the eyeliner on and then use a Zoeva 226 Smudger Brush to smudge/move the eyeliner to where I want it. Always looks good!! Sorry for rambling, I just love talking about and experimenting with makeup.
Old people can't wear bright colours is absolute bull. I recently encouraged my mother who is well into her 60s to wear more colour. She came to me asking what I would think if she started wearing blue or green eyeshadow, so I bought her some pretty pigmented bright single shadows and she absolutely loves them. She used to wear all the colours and crazy makeup in the 1970's but recently she really bought into societys idea that older women should be unseen and unheard. Wear whatever you want - makeup and clothing. I encourage anyone (no matter what age) struggling with self-expression to learn from Baddie Winkle.
My mom is in her early 50's and waaay into 90's makeup lol She doesn't like to wear bright colours outside of really special events sadly... But that makes it easy to find eye makeup for her. I got her a little limited edition eyeshadow trio from sephora with a matte beige and two shimmery brown tones and she loves it :) Trying to get her into peaches, purples and reds now because I feel like that would compliment her eye colour a lot
It sickens me that youth is the only beauty noticed these days. People naturally and at e ery age can be beautiful. This obsession with youth is hurting many people even children.
Ana J soooo true, I came here to say this. I see so many beautiful girls on Instagram who are clearly muted (soft summer ans soft autumn) and they look clownish in the bright green, magenta and vivid blue makeup
Being 62 I've actually had people tell me I'm to old for certain makeup or clothing. I fall back on the old saying , " when you pay for my stuff , you can tell me what to wear ".
Good on you! 😊 My own mother used to be too afraid to wear colours, now she's asking if-- when lockdown is lifted-- I'll dye her hair pink. Yes queen! She's come into her own since she turned 60 and I love to see it!
A channel that actually teaches you make-up. Where have you been all this time?! Teaches sans drama but with the right amount of sass. Love you! You're a breath of fresh air to TH-cam make-up community.
"Old people can't wear bright colors on their eyes". I mean, they literally can so. Your eyelids don't start rejecting bright pigment after you turn 50 or some shit.
I am 41 and only keep a few browns around for funerals 😋 I am a green/purple/teal/pink wearing queen! So I definitely agree! Oh, and love me some hella crazy shimmers and glitters!
i agree, everyone's first reaction to looks without falsies is to put them on. yes i do think they look better tbh. but i do not think they are necessary for everyday
I feel like Robert and Kristi are the only ones that are 100% honest in reviews and will call out the industry and other influencers for some of the shady things they are doing.
jeffree star is alao brutally honest, even about his own products (one shade in the blue blood palette is tricky and he did mention that for example), i just don't like that he yampers on and on and on before he gets to the point and he can be a bit two faced sometimes.
I feel like 2020 will be the year for respectful opinions, facts, educational content and digital social responsibility 💐💐 Enough about unnecessary disrespectful immature drama!!! More of Welsh twins style content in all communities!!! Love your content❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Couldn't agree more! I never subscribed or turned on the notifications for any other creator than James and Robert. And thanks to them I have got to know people who are genuinely worth watching, like Jackie Aina, Smokey Glow and RawBeautyKristi. Yes to creative, honest and professional people. No to toxic drama queens and liars...
I'm 48 and I wear shimmers and foils. It's a question of placement and blending. It's such a good point you made Robert to say you can enjoy make up at any age. Thank you for not joining the ageist revolution love Mags ( a proud mature lady with wise lines, opposed to wrinkles! I will deck anyone who says different! 😂😈) xx
Rock Mags, ‘deck anyone’ cracked me up. I’m with you. Coming up for 54 and I shimmer. Think mutton dressed as lamb? Don’t like it & feel the need to give me some gentle advice? Oh, I will take you down.
I’m a licensed cosmetologist and they “teach” makeup application in school and it’s covered under my license to do it as a service. I am considered a “professional” because I am licensed but that’s a bunch BS. Just because someone has a license doesn’t make them a professional. I agree with his advice about looking at a portfolio of work. You don’t need to be a “pro” to apply makeup beautifully and responsibly. Just like a license doesn’t automatically make you a pro.
I love your stance on the last opinion!! There's a reason why Fenty Beauty's foundations sold out so fast when it first came out. Sooo many people who could never find their shade finally found a foundation that matched them perfectly and now it's their go to! I never understood why more brands don't include more shades because if anything it will just boost their sales.
Not just shades but actual good product as well. I'm light skinned with cool and pink undertones, Fenty was the first foundation I found that matched perfectly.
Brianna Chenise When Fenty launched their foundation that was the first time that I didn't know which shade I should be getting because I matched to more than one. The first time that I was overwhelmed and it felt so good. I'm a deep dark and live in Europe.
It's not hard to understand, company goal is to make profit. They will produce shade that sales more. Only a small portion has extreme light/dark tone means product will sit longer on the shelves equal less profit.
The person who says that not all brands need to cater to all skin tones, is obviously lucky enough to be in the middle range with a commonly provided for skin tone. They make me wish that a brand brought out the BEST ever formula, a complete game changer in the world of foundation. And only make it in super pale and super deep dark tones..... and feel what it's like to not be catered for, and have to miss out on the amazingness because "brands don't have to cater for all skin tones"
Mawera Illingworth I agree, I also hate when people say makeup artist shouldn't learn to work with diverse skin tones 😔 even if their market has a majority one tone, it still excluded the other "few" who want their makeup done. It's strange to be against more options
I think I fall in the "middle range" you described but never found a foundation match in any brand lol the darker shades always too dark for me and the lighter shades are wayyy too light. The medium ones are either cool or warm toned and Im neutral lol
Not all skin tones sell enough to even keep on shelves and not all stores have the space for EVERY SINGLE brand to come out with the never ending shades needed to cover ALL skin tones. So I can understand where the original sentiment came from.
You could argue that an African brand sold in Africa, does in fact not need to cater to all skin tones. I think there's a difference with IF the brand caters and if stores in a particular location stocks all the shades. I can't see why a shop would have to stock shades that don't sell in that region.
“To not include a shade means you haven’t thought about that person” yes, or even worse, they have and decided to dismiss it for profit reasons like thinking enough won’t sell of darker shades so there’s no point. Both are cheap cop outs for these massively rich brands.
Right. Makeup brands have got to put ethics first. I can't imagine being a certain skin tone and going shopping and hardly any brand carries my actual skin tone. I can admit I can't even imagine that. I think that's just horrible. And what kind of message is it sending to younger girls of those skin tones? That's horrible.
Yes you said it so well. It used to suck so bad looking at foundation and never being able to find my shade. It would drive me crazy like do ppl think black women don’t like or wear makeup. There’s no excuse for it. Ever. Makeup is universal. Also it’s still the same with so many eyeshadow palettes where so many of the colors are too light and would look so ashy on anyone with darker skin.
@@amyb7823 im telling you its really terrible. I am very very pale. Too pale for nearly every kinda affordable brand other than fenty beauty and my fenty shade is the palest. It's really tough because I can't highlight my undereyes. I can only kinda match my skin tone and that only from one not even affordable enough for me brand. When I contour I always looks like I've got mud in my face. I know that it's extremely rare to find people with my skin tone or lighter but it feels shitty not being able to go to a drugstore and get makeup that has to do with my skin. It makes me feel way too pale. I can't cover up my slight pimples because I look like I've got brown concealer in my face and the concealer that matches me costs 20€, which isn't worth it for me since I don't even enjoy the formula of it
100% agree! I'm one of these nonexistent "inbetween shades". At 23 i still haven't found a matching foundation shade at the drugstore yet. Guess I'll have to wait until I can afford high-end 🤷🏻♀️😌
I’ve seen Scott Barnes do an everyday makeup look and it’s spectacular. The makeup he did on Tati for her channel and what he does on his TH-cam channel (and on Jennifer of course) is “editorial” makeup or stage makeup. He amps it up for the cameras. I saw him do a subtle smokey eye look on an older actress and she looked gorgeous. He is versatile. He just doesn’t emphasize it in the media because he doesn’t need to. Scott and Kevyn Aucoin (RIP) both made their names in how contour the face. His jawline colors and maybe heavy handed product works for his clients. His makeup palettes are divine, btw and, they work on every skin tone. **I am a big Scott fan, knew him a long time ago but I have no association to him.
Thank you for including wheelchair users when addressing one of the questions, it is so refreshing to see that! I am a manual wheelchair user who is a professional MUA.
You're right about Scott Barnes makeup style, Rob. Beside his thick makeup, he's great in balancing colors and product placement. For example in Tati's first tutorial with him, she had multiple contouring+highlighting+bronzing products but Scott kept the brows, eyeshadows, and lips simple. I saw multiple looks from Jennifer, it's still balanced even though you will see and feel the heavy texture of her skin. Meanwhile, some people I found in IG/YT do all this stuffs, mixing all bold colors without color theory consideration and for me it looks....overwhelmed, too much. Also this is another reason why editorial makeup looks by some talented artists on magazine done perfectly, because they know how to balance and they have color theory game. Thanks for the video. I'd love to see your makeup videos with models ❤️
Exactly.. glam looks by insta/youtube folks is glitter/shimmer cut crease or halo eyes with super contour n highlighter everywhere n even ombre lips n baking etc its basically drag.. Scott makes his base to stand out.. even with the big lashes thing. Everyone wants mink lashes super big etc while having alot going on the lid.... he applies those fluffy lashes but eye makeup is always simple.. he doesnt use more than 2-3 shadows. He even said that it looks professional like that than using 5 shades. So everything is balanced
@@edinne24 yeah it's so thick hehehehe I love it for dancing/carnival/night event look, it feels makeup-ish but not too much. maybe you can tone down and eliminate some products, but still use his technique. I do minimze the bronzing part because I'm not really a bronzing person, only put them lightly on cheeks.
@@emyf9197 and with the addition of harsh, warm lighting [and facetune/photoshop 🤭], urgh it turns to be unpleasing picture. Even some drag queens don't rely on gazillion eyeshadow colors 😁 I saw some drag queens on their makeup, they pick small selection of pigmented shadows/creams, but still in thick application to make their look stand out.
Jill Shah I think he will too. He's such a genuine, quality person. I really like his content too. He has great, entertaining ideas/content and I like how he points out the differences between "Instagram" or "TH-cam" makeup as opposed to makeup in real life.
You are amazing Robert. The fact you didn't forget about disabled folks when talking about inclusivity makes you stand out and it made me tear up a bit because we're always forgotten.
Totally....like you'd just refill his coffee mug as he speaks...nodding with interest. Then we start planning a covered dish dinner with our other friends
Not a fan of that “old people can’t wear bright colours” comment!! My nan is 65 and she will always wear a bright turquoise eyeliner and it makes her eyes pop and she looks stunning with it!!!🥰🥰🥰
I completely agree with you on the foundation colors! While I am a medium-light "color" my skin tone is VERY hard to match. It wasn't until the past 5-7 years that brands started getting "closer" to my true shade. Growing up, I always ended up too pink or too orange - even at say the MAC counter. The artists would always try to "make it work" and end up mixing several shades, which my teenage/early twenties self couldn't afford to buy. I'm happy to see brands stretching their range, but there's still a long way to go.
Man I feel this hard. I'm Korean/Black and I gave up on makeup for the longest time because 1. American makeup instantly broke out my sensitive skin back in the day like I put it on and instant bumps and 2. I'm in that same Medium-light category most of the time but hard to match since 2 seconds in the sun darkens me up so I had my pale neutral ass chest, dark golden yellow neck and my face shade changed constantly depending on how much of a hermit I could be. And ironically nothing was warm enough for me. Anytime someone tried to color match me since I knew zero about make up and still beginner now, it was too dark and/or too neutral. I was always in between shades and everything looked wrong. I just wanted to be like my friends or family who could pick out their shade but here I was having to guess at mixing stuff up to make it work for right color and work with my extremely picky, sensitive, oily oily skin. So its nice that I finally have stuff that I can actually wear after.... 9 years.
@@maximumeffort78 Just last week I got the Uoma Beauty Say What Foundation because of the Leap year sale in Honey Honey T1W and it perfectly match me I was so happy, just need to get a good primer to help out my pores with it tho (good primer for me is still work in progress). I can't get money for that all the time however, so the one I was using before was depending on coverage I want. Lighter days I use the Missha M perfect BB cream in 27, I have to use lightly colored powders on top sometimes with it and different ones depending on my skin shade at the time tho like Besame in medium and/or mixed with the warm tan or the Maybelline Fit me loose powders in I think medium. Medium coverage its the Colourpop stick foundation in 110w mixed with the A'pieu Madecassoside stick foundation. Sometimes I can get concealer that is much like the yellow I need but too dark and mix it with my just a tad lighter foundations to work. ^ ^;; Still have to mix but I can't wait to try out the Uoma one in summer for me. The real test, but I really like it so far for the finish and of course actually matching.
YES. I totally relate to this. I try to load on the sunscreen so I stay as true to my natural pale ass skin tone (I'm not even that fair, I'm in between a NC25-30 at my fairest) because as soon as I get even A SLIGHT tan, my skin is this weird mix of neutral olive-yellow that NO FOUNDATION has gotten right. The closest I've gotten is Too Faced Light Beige and Revolution C&D in F8.2. Even then, they run a little too neutral-pink so I have to balance it out with a yellow-toned concealer. Ugh, the struggles
I'm super glad Tati gave you a shout-out, I really hope that will boost your numbers, you are awesome and you deserve all the subscribers in the world.
victoria alexander you’re absolutely entitled to your opinion about a person you do not know. But truly, your comment is unwarranted and unbecoming. Are you five?
I have a relatively deep skin tone, I’m not deep dark but I’m not that light either. For years there was only two brands that were a decent match for me (I could get away with wearing MAC NW50 in the summer but it always looked weird on me in the winter) and in this moment where inclusivity should be on the forefront of most brands I literally refuse to except brands only coming out with 10 shades. If I can’t find a foundation in my skin tone I now refuse to put any money towards that brand 🤷🏾♀️ Even if I like their eyeshadow etc.
I support this 100%. Do not give money to companies that aren’t willing to be inclusive. You vote with your money. Don’t vote for people who aren’t willing to work for you.
I’m the same way. Recently I saw Almay...ALMAY in the drugstore extend their foundation lines like 2 shades deeper. They really think they are doing something. 🙄 I just rolled my eyes and walked away. If you have a track record of being exclusive, you will NEVER receive my money. Money is power. You will never have that over me.
I am 52 years old and I love what you said about mature clients wanting shimmering, bright shadow. It really made me feel good. We shouldn't be limited by our age and I'm glad a young person as yourself feels this way. Much love from Virginia, USA
Has Robert had a video about how to keep makeup hygienic? I have seen him have sound bits here and there but I would love a full video covering the topic~ ❤️
princessptfo so you can enjoy that perfect foundation, but other people can’t? It’s a cop out. They have the money to create every shade in that perfect formula they just made. It’s not give and take; they can have it both ways.
So true. I used to be quite pale so for some brands the foundation shades were just a tad dark for me, but even then - I realise I have TONNES of brands to choose from that have my shade, no matter how pale I am, and it would just be a shade too dark. Too many people can't find a shade anywhere near their skintone, it's ridiculous and I'm glad we are seeing an uprising in inclusive brands
@@TheRisingIcarus what are those tonnes of brands? I'm pale and never find a shade light enough for me in stores.... And shades too dark look bad on your face as the rest of your body will be even lighter then your face... What brands are you using? I think I once saw a 0.8 in a really expensive Lancome foundation but the undertone was way off.
EXOmake_meHorololo ! I’m also an extremely pale person. I use L’Oréal infallible liquid matte foundation in shade rose pearl. I also like the maybelline fit me in fair porcelain. I have a rose/pink undertone and those are two foundations I currently use. I will say the maybelline one tends to be a little lighter than the L’Oréal but I usually mix the two anyway and it matches very well. They’re both also pretty good coverage
@@TheRisingIcarus I'm a very pale guy, i use Maybelline's Fit Me foundation in the number 110, it's a very good foundation for oily/normal every-day makeup! And i think there is a lighter shade in the collection. If you can't still don't find a foundation, you can use the LAColor's foundation that is pure white to mix in with your current foundation!
I am so pale, I almost always wear the lightest shade a foundation line comes in and sometimes it's still not enough. So yes I struggle to find my shade. But, but, but! I know not as many people have my skin tone, so it makes sense it's less included. On the other side, most brands miss like half the spectrum of darker tones that makes up a huge percent of the population! They don't leave them out because not a lot of people need them (like in my case). They leave out those tones on purpose because they're maybe racist or at least uninformed? To say that fair skin wearers struggle too, well, it's not really the same. Btw I have a tan in my profile pic there. I'm like a vampire 😔
I am from India and people here have extremely light - light - medium - dark - deep dark skin tones. But most people have medium skin tones. People here are obsessed with fair skin and you can see a lot of fairness cream and fairness soaps. People use lighter foundations and end up looking ashy. Indian makeup brands only make foundations and other base products in 3 - 8 shades in which 90 % of the shades are for lighter skin tones and 10 % of the shades for medium skin tones.
Exactly this like I'm pale with more of a cold undertone so most things are to orange and to dark but there will still be something that's close and can be fixed with concealer and more blending. For people of color it's way more common that a line of foundation doesn't have something that's even remotely close to their skin color. They used to be and still are highly unrepresented. Whereas I myself need to go outside more
@@gwendolynjonkers8695 I'm the same and I think since lockdown I've gotten worse. Used my normal shade (done in not great lighting) for a ID photo and it wasn't until I was at work that I realised I had the dreaded orange line near my jaw/neck. Looks like I'll need to find a new shade, and possibly a new brand if it turns out they changed their colours slightly when they revamped their product packaging
Yay a robert video! Since we're moving towards warmer weather, Could you do a video on makeup and sunscreen? I haven't found a way of wearing both without it looking so bad
I love that you stand for natural beauty. I swear I used to watch makeup tutorials on TH-cam and used to think "how can they walk outside under the sunlight with that 3 cm mask of makeup?" BG just wore sooooo much makeup. Finally you came to the Booty Community (rich lux reference lmao), to show younger generations that you don't need to look like a drag queen to look beautiful. I'm so happy you're here sharing your thoughts and knowledge on makeup!
I decided to never buy from them. Tried once and got annoyed how a £9 eyeshadow become a £23 pounds purchase since they kept on putting more and more money as I tried to purchase it, specially sales tax. Just had it to the product price already, it's dead annoying.
Holy crap, this is EXACTLY the brand I thought of when it comes to releasing TOO MUCH. They are the Fast-Fashion of makeup and good gods, it is just TOO MUCH
I love love LOVE how you see the importance in including boys in makeup brands and ads 💕 My son is still very young, so this may or may not change, but he's always loved makeup and fashion. He seems to have even more fun with it when seeing male influences in the beauty world. I dread the day that he'll be picked on for it (though people are more accepting, I'm sure it will still happen), I absolutely love his personality and free spirit, I wish he saw more little boys like him. But I'm very happy to see men such as yourself to inspire him!
I am fair and extremely pink undertoned. Even when I use a cool/rose foundation it still makes me look so yellow like Marge Simpson. My best friend has the same issue. Don't get me started on Too Faced concealers and foundation... Butter!
I love how consciously you talked about all these subjects. Not just talking for talking. I've found your channel not long ago and I definitely stay here :D And about Urban Decay setting spray - I love to use it on my eye make up, when I do some shadows and stuff. I really need that because I cry a lot when I laugh (I do laugh a lot), apart from that I always smudge shadows all over my face with my hands, base is not enough. This spray deals with me bravely :)
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I’ve finished a half of my urban decay all nighter bottle. Still suffer everytime. Smells like my fish sauce. 😩
That all nighter makes my skin look crusty and didn’t know why until Robert said that it may have powder in it and I can’t do powder on my face
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shyanne paro you probably have dry skin. I have dry skin too. Before putting on makeup I give my face a good amount of rich moisturiser, then I wait for it to sink in for 15 mins, then makeup. Then I seal the whole thing with Fenty powder and All nighter mist. It really helps, maybe you can try it.
It's interesting because I use the Skindinavia setting spray which does a good job, has no smell I can discern but, apparently, is exactly the same thing as All Nighter.
I use a moisturizer or sunscreen instead of a primer... unpopular opinion, most TH-camrs don’t show how to incorporate sun screen into your makeup and I think that’s not great. If you stay home all day that’s one thing, but if you’re gonna leave your house at all ... ☀️
Oh god! So true.... I must wear sunscreen even inside because a skin problems and I often ser that nobody do this step!!! I decide to experiment doing it like primer and I love it!!
Thank you Robert for agreeing that all makeup brands should cater to all skin tones. Its refreshing to see somone speak up about this, along with the men and women ignored by the companies, who often speak about it. Robert for the win!
It just amazes me how you always have such an educational yet hella relatable answer to everything you watch, it’s so refreshing to see on TH-cam and just in general... killer vid 💜💜
20:00 good for you for speaking out about skin tone gaps in foundations. It’s ethics period and I’m just smiling. I’m so proud of you. It’s something that needs to continue to be brought to these brands attention. They are ‘purposely’ leaving people out of the equation for one reason or another. And it’s not okay! It’s hurtful and cruel imo. Either way, just good on you for not tiptoeing around the subject and saying what matters!
21:13 that was the purest and cutest thing ever. Nowadays youtubers often have that "if you don't like it, f**k off and don't watch my videos" attitude. It was refreshing to hear someone say "sorry, maybe next time" :)
Also. I'm forty-friggin-two and whoever says older people cant wear bright colors is ignorant. I love bright colors and get compliments all day every day on my makeup because I KNOW HOW TO APPLY IT. I know what I'm doing and it shows. Oh. And by the way, if you cant apply makeup well even boring ass brown eyeshadow looks like shit so🤷♀️ tell me I can't wear colors again B!!!! 🤣🤣😘😘😍😍😍
LOL so much truth! I do muted versions of brighter colors, not straight up neons or primary colors (personal preference/what looks good on my skin, I love the looks on others in all age groups), smoke out my eyes, use shimmers, love duochromes, my love of color is obvious. Also in my 40s, and like you, receive compliments when I do my eyes. It’s definitely all about technique, tones of a color, and what brings a person joy. Nobody “ages out” of makeup!
I don't know. Wait til you turn SIXTY-friggin- two (like me) and get unbelievably crepey eyelid skin and hooding. Make-up application becomes very tricky. Very difficult to blend shadows when your skin moves with the brush.
@@ritasicari7518 Upgrade to softer fluffier blending brushes. Use the sparkly and bright colors as accents, with matte mid tone and sculpting colors. I do my 73 year old mom's eye makeup, and she already had a hooded eye, before she got older. She has these great olive green eyes and I just love using a the dark metallic copper liner to show them off.
For the licencing thing: Maybe it would be good to have a sort of test/exam someone need to pass before they can work in a salon/store? Especially focusing on the hygiene part, because I feel like learning how to make a good makeup look is maybe 'easier' to learn by themselves than proper Hygiene procedures.
Jörunn von Westernhagen Robert Welsh it could be a breif, affordable, class too with a test at the end. Like what we take in my state to get a food handlers card from the health department for food safety, but maybe a tad longer. It's one day, only a few hours long, and must be retaken every few years. I think its unfortunate that the US doesn't do that sort of thing for makeup application because beauty/cosmetology schools only cover sanitation as it relates to hair only. There are only a few makeup schools in the entire US so most makeup artists don't have the opportunity to attend one.
Sadly, many states (USA) don't require any for of training or licensing for makeup and are actually trying to deregulate licensing for hair and nails services. 😣
yeah that's like how they do it for tattoo shops. they have to take a sanitation and blood borne pathogens exam. that's the most important thing in these industries (i'm in hair and i wouldn't mind if they did away with "professional" licensure as long as they kept sanitation certs.)
See for hairstylists, in Ontario, you need you be licensed to work in a salon and you need your card with you at all times cause if they catch you they’ll fine you and the salon that let you do that. It used to be if at least one person had to be licensed but you either have to be licensed or an apprentice you can’t just cut hair anymore not even in your own business/home. Which tbh makes sense. I think makeup artists need something similar to that cause all I know is you don’t need any certification or regulation to work in a salon as an mua
J K Seriously, It Cosmetics ONLY sells shades for white people with warm-toned medium skin. They exclude like 94% of the entire human population from their shade range, including anyone who is cool toned, olive toned, fair, or dark 🤦🏻♀️
The "not sponsored" disclaimer is Federal Law in the U.S. too. I would worry if someone DIDN'T disclose whether something was sponsored (or not sponsored). Licenses MUST be displayed in a visible area in the U.S. (Florida in particular).
Question from a kiwi - how can they monitor/enforce this law to people outside of the states, eg. Robert being in England and having a viewer in the US?
I love how upfront and honest Robert Welsh is! This is the level of transparency we as viewers would like to see from all content creators (in my opinion)! 🖤
Thank you for addressing the diversity of foundation for skintones. I'm Asian and it's always difficult to find the perfect foundation because not all of us are oily as what others think, not all of us are yellow undertone as what the market portrays us. Asian skin is very diverse so I appreciate those brands who really take time and effort to do research than put us in a box of "Asian".
Yes yes yes!!! And how on earth to stop or minimize the marks on nose from glasses it ruins my makeup i dont wear my glasses all the time but if i say go to cinema i need them then when i take them off to go about my day my nose makeup ruined!!
I think this is a bit of an American/European centric opinion. I do think there are places on Earth where a makeup company that only sells in say, one or two countries, would genuinely lose money if they made foundation colours for every skin tone. Whether that money loss is worth making 0.01 of consumers feel included is a calculation I think every business is going to have the same conclusion on.
princessptfo and if none make my shade then what? Clearly this is something you never had to worry about. So cuz it doesn’t effect you who cares. Can’t relate 🙄
Today as I was talking to my sister, she started complaining about how her makeup doesn't last long and it will fade away even before she reaches the party venue. And she further told me there's this Welsh person on TH-cam who said that makeup fixer does nothing. I said sis, I am the one who shared some of his relevant videos to you first and told her about both of you ( James) and for some reason I felt proud sharing it with her. And the way you speak is so convincing that even though she hardly knows you, she completely believes in all your opinions and ideas. Great Job
As somebody who regularly wears blue eyeshadow I 100% stand with the if it’s done correctly thing! It’s all about application and having a good colour palette where the colours work together
i agree with you about smaller youtubers tending to be more honest about reviews because they may not have ulterior motives, but i think it can't be made as a blanket statement. Love you Robert 😊
I've learned so much from Robert n his channel. Truthfully, I'm still a beginner at make up but after watching his vids n following his advice, I can see my confidence going up when applying my own makeup❤ thank you Robert💜💜
On the primer issue, I have a question:
What are some primers you guys think actually deserve their fame/ actually work? On the other side, are there some primers you guys think are overrated?
I love the primed peach primer, by benefit, but absolutely hate make up forever's primers. 🤮.
Honestly I like the e.l.f. color correcting primer. The one I use is green and I have super red skin. While it doesnt drastically correct i mix like 2:1 where one is foundation. I end up using less product, it goes on nicer, and it doesnt settle into my dry ass skin texture.
I’ve pinned this because I would love to see what people say!
I personally have been using Milk hydro grip recently and I really like it because it actually helps with my skin texture, I’m oily but dehydrated and the hydro grip doesn’t over hydrate but it also smooths out my dehydrated areas! 🖤 I also think POREfessional is overrated 😑
I have combination skin ( oily t-zone) and for me so far the best was Innisfree No sebum Blur primer. Its not overpriced ( on yesstyle anyways) and it works very good. But i don't use primer everyday. When i just want to cover up some redness or my enormous dark circles 🤣 i just use my face cream as a primer.
Love the milk hydrogrip, I think it really does both hydrate and grip well. I like the essence fresh and fit for when I don’t need makeup to last 12 hours but want to glow, and I like the tatcha one for pore blurring
Robert Welsh me too! Am oily but dehydrated cause I’m old 😂😂
"I don't care if any of them are watching.... because you're all awful people" God give me the courage to be so honestly savage.
Love how much Robert cares and how upfront he is, makes me feel like I am back in school in the best way possible. Professor Robert making me love makeup again.
😝 Thank you!! 🖤🖤
Oh my goodness, I couldn’t stop laughing! 😂
Me too. I have a cold though and was laughing so hard it was so hard to breathe! Still trying to catch my breath!
As a licensed cosmetologist, I wish there were a hygiene-related license for MUAs. I don’t care where you learned to do makeup, but everyone needs to practice good hygiene and it would help to filter out the unprofessional folks
Ditto, ulta benefit station drives me bonkers b/c no sanitation. I went to school to do hair, but it included MUA section. I FUCKING CRINGE.
I will be starting my cosmetology studies next year and I totally agree!!! I know I know basically nothing compared to someone who has a certification, but from a common sense standpoint, hygiene is important and also shows respect towards the client!
I went to school for esthetics and I agree. We learned makeup design and infection control even though the focus was skincare. I would've failed my makeup exam if I applied makeup in an unsanitary way.
100% agree
agreed, i went to makeup designory to become a mua and one of the most important things we learned about was hygiene!! most of the videos where people go to random makeup artists make me cringe
I don’t see many women in their late 40’s and 50’s in makeup campaigns. That is disappointing. We love makeup too.
and even older. its awful that to this day, still, society and the media dont see any "use" in women if theyre not young and easy to sexualize
Because a lot of people judging them I hear a lot of that like your old make up don't do anything to you or make up is just for young er people I'm 20btw
Check out ilia beauty 💗
Revolution included a couple of older ladies in a conceal and define campaign, and there is a comment on their TH-cam channel complaining about how everyone looked "old".
@@nn-wu2yo i honestly disagree. yes people judge and say this.. but the older you get, the less you worry or care about those things. some brands do use older women but they are the J LO at age 50 type.. not someone who naturally ages and to me, that is the bigger issue
Unpopular opinion: there’s nothing wrong with skin texture. Showing texture isn’t a bad thing; we’re human and no one’s skin is perfect.
I think our standards for makeup and skin for our own face are alot higher than for others. If I see someone with textured skin and some acne I don't care, but on myself I hate it
At fifty, it's inevitable and I don't care because I can do great makeup looks even on my mummified skin.😄 But I have noticed that some products just don't work on textured skin. Those felt tip liners like the KVD tattoo liner are horrible to use on textured skin. You need to have the eyelids of a toddler to get those to perform well without some serious hard work. 😖
From a disability pride perspective, there's nothing wrong with facial differences (or facial "disfigurement").
Beauty standards usually reflect societal biases about what type of human is best.
Society values abled people over disabled people or those with chronic health conditions. So beauty is used to hide any sign of illness, and when some people don't wear makeup they're constantly asked, "Are you sick?"
Mustn't look sick, must look %100 abled and healthy at all times.
Getting people to accept the "imperfections" in their skin must be part of a larger effort to get the majority to accept people who are not and will never be healthy.
social media has really warped our understanding of what skin actually looks like, & it's sad. people are terrified of fine lines, wrinkles, blemishes, pores, etc. etc. etc. people were obviously insecure about these things before, but with all the filters & editing & photoshop that goes on now, it's all been made worse
You are correct however if someone feels like hiding it that's their own choice. I appreciate tips on how to hide it. When we have alot of makeup on it can absolutely exacerbate the look of it.
I remember when Fenty first showed their foundation range, people were so thankful for that inclusivity. Some of my friends who have darker skin tones couldn't find foundation in their shade from Fenty because they'd sold out instead of it not being available at all. That meant so much to them and a new standard had been set. Plus, isn't it a better business practice to have a variety for a larger group of people to buy your product? Anyways, I really enjoyed this video and I love how restful (but honest) you are about your opinions.
@@rianne_9042 the reason fenty got s hype is bc they launched all the shades w their initial launch, estee lauder, mac, n lancome kinda just added deeper shades as time went on. the reason fenty changed everythings is bc they basically said we're catering to everyone first try.
Same thing for very pale-skinned people
But fenty's foundation range is ALL yellow toned. It sucks :((
@@lalalola. Because Fenty was founded in 2017, not early 2000's or last century.
Aleksandra darker people existed before 2017 though?? wtf is your point
Omg Robert calling out his old salon - "You're all awful people" lmaooo I'd love to let some of my old colleagues know that too!
😂😂😂😂 🖤🖤
Amy J so hilarious! I’d love a video hearing the gossip from that time!
ABSOLUTELY😂
@@RobertWelsh A video about bad job experiences in the industry?
Amy J I think you just did and they probably already knew it. 👏👏
Controversial opinion: Everyone screams diversity until it includes unconventionally attractive people, then no one cares. I remember seeing this ad a while ago and one of the models made me think of someone from a renaissance painting, she wasn’t technically attractive by our current standards, but still absolutely stunning. So many people were calling her ugly in various ways, tearing her appearance down just to boost up the other models, and it was sad to see, especially considering it wasn’t the first time I’d seen something like that.
However, those who are asking or telling about diversity aren't the same person who are bullying or telling that person that he/she is ugly... But yeah, i understand your concern
Jay Nicole Thank you for sharing your very insightful perspective. I totally agree and sometimes we need the reminder...😊👍
This reminded me of one time I saw a woman that seemed like she straight up walked off a renaissance painting. She wasn’t attractive by modern standards, but to me she was beautiful. I wish I’d mustered my courage and told her that. I’ve seen her two times only despite frequenting the place where it happened :c
"Be diverse... ooh no, not that kind of diverse"
Nah you're SO right, even when they're slimmer but "unconventional" its totally a thing I see too.
I love when Robert says "heres the thing..." lol I'm about to learn something good haha
Followed by the 'ehehehe'
“Old people can’t wear bright colours?”.....well bless your teeny tiny too young heart! At 52 I’m currently rocking purple eye shadow and getting compliments from many cosmetic counters and asking what pallets I’m using (it’s never theirs LOL).... just wait until this person realizes age is just a number!
You’re my hero!!💕💕💕 What pallets are you using? I live for purple eye shadow!!
And I am.......62!! ..... and I so very much use color and will until the day I turn up in an urn....:)
Dot Hill We’re on the same page. ❤️❤️
That's great. But I honestly think it stems from that awful blue eye shadow and red lip phase. That was popular for them when they were young. It's extremely dated, didn't look good then and doesn't now. And the people wearing it are the ones who are older.
@@jenat82 I personally have never paired blue eye shadow with red lipstick nor would I. In fact, there are so many ways to add color without going overboard.
I’m sick of brands only ever releasing limited edition products. I find a favorite that I want to repurchase regularly to find out it’s discontinued. So then I have to waste time and money finding something else only to have it keep happening.
I have the same feeling! That's why i will never buy anything limited edition 😭
Ya but then they make more money because you are searching for that color again therefore spending more money on products. It is very unfortunate for the consumer though.
Limited Edition is mostly a business gimmick. They know that if they put the title “limited edition” on something, it makes customers think that if they don’t jump at the chance to buy it right away on full product will disappear and you’ll lose out on the opportunity to get the product again. The same thing happened with me with the brand Too Faced. Sephora and Ulta Beauty sells Too Faced products, especially limited edition, so once the limited edition period was over, those products would disappear out of those stores. It was not too recent when I went on the Too Faced to browse their inventory, only to find that their “limited edition” products are “not so limited.”
@@kristinbagani2811 at sephora they had an amazing body gel that was perfect for my skin and it was discontinued, only to bring a similar product with less quantity and higher price🙃
Shouldn't that causes you to save money vs waste?
Person: Society says I shouldn't do something
Robert: *hand gesture and look of skepticism*
😂😂🖤
Why we love you, Robert!!!
Marliese Thomas lol
That needs to be memed. It’s literally his version of tea sipping Kermit
If someone told me I shouldn't wear colorful eyeshadow b'cause of my age, I'd laugh my butt off and be sure to double down when I knew that person would be around.
My bff told me I was getting to old to wear pink, I was dumbfounded. Who comes up w/ this crap?
Don't like the "old people can't wear bright colors " bull. First off, whoever said that is probably 14. That is so not nice. I like the way you answered this comment.
it is a message older folks heard during the 60's to 90's. It was when stereotypes for women was a big thing.
I manage retirement/assisted living/memory care communities. We wear whatever we like! 😁
My 70yo mom has worn bright red and hot pink lipstick for 30 years and rocks it. I hope I have half her confidence when I'm her age!
I heard this growing up. I’m only 31, but my mom kept getting drawn to bright and shimmery colors and then giving them to me because she was “too old.” Her make up techniques were not very good, looking back I think she just needed to learn how to use them.
right! i work in a beauty retail job & im quite bright in style, so a lot of older ladies always say “ i wish i could do that” or something of that nature & it kinda makes me sad! like go off girl go dye your hair pink!! put on a bright lippie! live your best life, makeup has no age
Robert: “I don’t care if any of my old coworkers see this you’re all awful people”
Me: 💀💀💀💀💀💀
Angela Sicilian yah that statement made me laugh out loud and I was doing my makeup 💪🏻🤪
This is pretty much the first thing I will say when I start my own TH-cam channel 😂 Although, I didn't work in makeup, I worked in finance 🤣🤪🤣
MsGlamourcat 🍇🌈 love it
😂👏😂
Tell ‘em Robert
Imagine being brown muslim person and never see any muslim girl/boy in any campaign, I can only remember Rihanna doing a makeup on muslim girl in Korea and that's why I love fenty beauty
EXACTLY!!!!!!!
Are they allowed to wear makeup?
Emily Griffith yes we are allowed to wear makeup beauty is an important to us muslims
Re aam why do the women have to cover up though, If beauty is encouraged?
@@emilygriffith6702 from what I know, in more conservative islamic communities beauty is something that is enjoyed in private, not in public. For example, women will wear bright makeup and expensive jewerly at home, around the family but cover up when going out in public. Also, in a lot of muslim countries parfume is a very important and can probably be considered a form of beauty. Also, in some countries only women's hair is covered so they can wear a lot of makeup in public as well. Altho I might be missing something, all that I know about muslim comes from men from those cultures and internet
I am not focusing on the not so nice comments. I am literally in tears to see that you explained perfectly how it feels to stand in a store & not find a foundation to match your skin. Thank you for speaking for all of us. ❤🥰
𝓛𝓾𝓷𝓮. Well I’m mixed so I’m in the middle and most brands (drugstore and high end) don’t have my shade, they are always too yellow or too gray.
@@beigehues here comes the pale princess
As a 50-year-old makeup enthusiast - I completely agree regarding brands needing to be inclusive. Makeup is not for specific races, genders or ages. It's a way for all of us to express ourselves. If a brand only wants to cater to 20-year-old caucasian girls, they are not tuned in enough to get my dollars.
I work at a drugstore and while tidying makeup I noticed a black model in one of the pictures (it was one of the main brands, might have been L'Oréal). It surprised me that I'd noticed so I looked around and realised EVERY single other model on these drugstore brands' promos were white. And clearly the only reason they'd chosen a black model for that product was because it was bright coloured eyeliner, so it stands out more on darker skin, whereas their other products presumably stand out more on lighter skin. These brands don't care about equality or inclusion, they literally only care about sales.
Robin H., considering we tend to have more dollars than women in their 20's, you would think they would cater to us more.
When talking about foundation shades i often explain it like this. I often can't find a light foundation for my irish skin. But the difference is is that im often a shade or 2 above what is offered. But for somone with dark skin tones there are 10 +shades missing from the range. Im definitely odd with my white af skin, but im an odd one out, not an entire community being left out of the foundation party.
That’s such a great way to put it!! 🖤🖤
@@RobertWelsh Thank you ❤
Agreed
I get your standpoint on the one hand, with us extremely pale people not having shades and that not even being slightly as bad as nearly an entire race being left out. Yet I think that it's shit that extremely fair people are being left out of so many brands. More and more deep tones are being added to the shade ranges which is absolutely amazing, yet I think that they should expand their pale shades more.
@@Christina-lv4mu But I guess it also has to do with the culture of self-tanning? Idk about you but I've noticed that A LOT of extremely fair people end up self-tanning. In fact, they are ashamed of their extremely fair skin tones and feel more confident with a tan on. Perhaps that's why brands don't feel as extreme of need to include extremely fair shades? I hope you can educate me on this if you have a different opinion.
As someone who is middle-aged, it's definitely frustrating to not see women and men in my age group represented, especially in skincare. Don't use a 20 year old model to sell anti-aging products and maybe have a variety of older people in a makeup campaign. When older folks are included, the look is almost always the same neutral no makeup sort of look. As Gen-Xers age, we are the generation giving the middle finger to arbitrary rules about how we are supposed to look. I loathe the term, "age appropriate."
I personally find zero need to be further marketed to. To each their own, I like being past the bullshit.
and the products that ARE marketed fo older people are expensive as all hell, it's really unfair tbh...
But I also would like to see less "smoky eye" looks too! I am middle age (52) and am just really starting to realize how fun make up can be, I'd just like something a bit less dramatic than the smoky look :-)
Antoinette Gingras
Hi, Try a Smokey eye in a brown or purple. It’s really pretty on older eyes with the lighter colours, I find black aging.
Also I’m 54 and find Natasha Denona eyeshadow colours and shimmers perfect for older eyes, they look beautiful on.
Much better than Viseart, Pat McGrath, ABH (although ABH Glam palette is stunning on), MELT, or Charlotte Tilbury.
Natasha has a lot of older clients and she designs her formulas (especially the older palettes such as the green/brown 28-pan but also the newer mini glam, gold or nude palettes) for mature eyes.
Also I love coloured eyeliners. Marc Jacobs eyeliners have always been my favourites but Fenty have just brought out some colourful eyeliners that are even more waterproof than MJ!
I put the eyeliner on and then use a Zoeva 226 Smudger Brush to smudge/move the eyeliner to where I want it. Always looks good!!
Sorry for rambling, I just love talking about and experimenting with makeup.
Hell yes preach
We need to take a moment to appreciate how cool Robert's shirt is.
All shirts I've seen him in are awesome :D
His fashion sense is quality for sure!!
We need to take a moment to appreciate how amazing Robert himself is! But yeah his shirt too!
Old people can't wear bright colours is absolute bull. I recently encouraged my mother who is well into her 60s to wear more colour.
She came to me asking what I would think if she started wearing blue or green eyeshadow, so I bought her some pretty pigmented bright single shadows and she absolutely loves them. She used to wear all the colours and crazy makeup in the 1970's but recently she really bought into societys idea that older women should be unseen and unheard.
Wear whatever you want - makeup and clothing. I encourage anyone (no matter what age) struggling with self-expression to learn from Baddie Winkle.
My mom is in her early 50's and waaay into 90's makeup lol
She doesn't like to wear bright colours outside of really special events sadly... But that makes it easy to find eye makeup for her. I got her a little limited edition eyeshadow trio from sephora with a matte beige and two shimmery brown tones and she loves it :)
Trying to get her into peaches, purples and reds now because I feel like that would compliment her eye colour a lot
It sickens me that youth is the only beauty noticed these days. People naturally and at e ery age can be beautiful. This obsession with youth is hurting many people even children.
Ana J soooo true, I came here to say this. I see so many beautiful girls on Instagram who are clearly muted (soft summer ans soft autumn) and they look clownish in the bright green, magenta and vivid blue makeup
Being 62 I've actually had people tell me I'm to old for certain makeup or clothing. I fall back on the old saying , " when you pay for my stuff , you can tell me what to wear ".
Good on you! 😊 My own mother used to be too afraid to wear colours, now she's asking if-- when lockdown is lifted-- I'll dye her hair pink. Yes queen! She's come into her own since she turned 60 and I love to see it!
Baby, I'm 51 and wear bright eye colours, glitter, shimmer, and whatever I feel like wearing that day! If it works for you, go for it.:)
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You are so pretty! I can't believe you're 51 you go girl
Get it girl! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Wait what?! 51?! Girl you look good 20 years younger 😍 Gorgeous ❤️👏🏼
I’m 43, and I wear what I want! The great thing is that I just don’t care what anyone thinks about it!
A channel that actually teaches you make-up. Where have you been all this time?! Teaches sans drama but with the right amount of sass. Love you! You're a breath of fresh air to TH-cam make-up community.
Thank you!! 🖤🖤
What a good way of describing him! I love the sass, but he's also very kind and respectful, too.
"Old people can't wear bright colors on their eyes". I mean, they literally can so. Your eyelids don't start rejecting bright pigment after you turn 50 or some shit.
That's an underrated comment :D
😂
Just like how ' for men' shampoo doesn't make women's hair fall out lol
So agree 😂👏
I am 41 and only keep a few browns around for funerals 😋 I am a green/purple/teal/pink wearing queen! So I definitely agree!
Oh, and love me some hella crazy shimmers and glitters!
Thank you so much for including those of us with disabilities when speaking about representation. It truly brought me to tears.
My unpopular opinion: false lashes are overdone and you don’t need them to have a beautiful look
Totally agree! I think outside of super glam and formal events like weddings you really don't need false lashes!
i agree, everyone's first reaction to looks without falsies is to put them on. yes i do think they look better tbh. but i do not think they are necessary for everyday
Ik I don't need it but I still use it cuz I feel like they make my eye look more dramatic and they make me feel more confident tbh ✨😌
Yessss! I love an eye look without false lashes
yes girl, I hate when people would ask me why I don't put lashes on
I feel like Robert and Kristi are the only ones that are 100% honest in reviews and will call out the industry and other influencers for some of the shady things they are doing.
Monika Agreed. Most honest, funny & relatable! 🥰
And Wayne Goss
jeffree star is alao brutally honest, even about his own products (one shade in the blue blood palette is tricky and he did mention that for example), i just don't like that he yampers on and on and on before he gets to the point and he can be a bit two faced sometimes.
Have you watched Samantha Ravndahl’s channel. She ‘s similar to kristi.
Don't forget Smokey Glow
I feel like 2020 will be the year for respectful opinions, facts, educational content and digital social responsibility 💐💐 Enough about unnecessary disrespectful immature drama!!! More of Welsh twins style content in all communities!!! Love your content❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
I absolutely agree!!!! Thank you!! 🖤🖤
Yes and I’m here for it!
This is a great comment! Love it! Spreading positivity and good communication! I'm all about it!
Amen!!!
Couldn't agree more! I never subscribed or turned on the notifications for any other creator than James and Robert. And thanks to them I have got to know people who are genuinely worth watching, like Jackie Aina, Smokey Glow and RawBeautyKristi. Yes to creative, honest and professional people. No to toxic drama queens and liars...
Robert is so underated
I love him so much and I learned so many things from him and his brother💘
Thank you!! 🖤🖤
Same here!
Yep. Some of his tips have been game changers for me. i love watching and learning from him. Plus he is easy on the eyes. 😊
I'm 48 and I wear shimmers and foils. It's a question of placement and blending. It's such a good point you made Robert to say you can enjoy make up at any age. Thank you for not joining the ageist revolution love
Mags ( a proud mature lady with wise lines, opposed to wrinkles! I will deck anyone who says different! 😂😈) xx
"Wise lines." I love that. I'm going to use that, hope you don't mind.❤
Rock Mags, ‘deck anyone’ cracked me up. I’m with you. Coming up for 54 and I shimmer. Think mutton dressed as lamb? Don’t like it & feel the need to give me some gentle advice? Oh, I will take you down.
I’m a licensed cosmetologist and they “teach” makeup application in school and it’s covered under my license to do it as a service. I am considered a “professional” because I am licensed but that’s a bunch BS. Just because someone has a license doesn’t make them a professional. I agree with his advice about looking at a portfolio of work. You don’t need to be a “pro” to apply makeup beautifully and responsibly. Just like a license doesn’t automatically make you a pro.
I love your stance on the last opinion!! There's a reason why Fenty Beauty's foundations sold out so fast when it first came out. Sooo many people who could never find their shade finally found a foundation that matched them perfectly and now it's their go to! I never understood why more brands don't include more shades because if anything it will just boost their sales.
Absolutely!!! Fenty is so so successful, and like you said, people found their shades and stuck with the brand! 🖤🖤
Not just shades but actual good product as well. I'm light skinned with cool and pink undertones, Fenty was the first foundation I found that matched perfectly.
Brianna Chenise When Fenty launched their foundation that was the first time that I didn't know which shade I should be getting because I matched to more than one. The first time that I was overwhelmed and it felt so good. I'm a deep dark and live in Europe.
It's not hard to understand, company goal is to make profit. They will produce shade that sales more. Only a small portion has extreme light/dark tone means product will sit longer on the shelves equal less profit.
@@simonethach7134 fake. Because at my sephora the dark tones are always the ones that are sold out. Maybe do research before you excuse racism.
The person who says that not all brands need to cater to all skin tones, is obviously lucky enough to be in the middle range with a commonly provided for skin tone.
They make me wish that a brand brought out the BEST ever formula, a complete game changer in the world of foundation. And only make it in super pale and super deep dark tones..... and feel what it's like to not be catered for, and have to miss out on the amazingness because "brands don't have to cater for all skin tones"
Mawera Illingworth I agree, I also hate when people say makeup artist shouldn't learn to work with diverse skin tones 😔 even if their market has a majority one tone, it still excluded the other "few" who want their makeup done. It's strange to be against more options
I think I fall in the "middle range" you described but never found a foundation match in any brand lol the darker shades always too dark for me and the lighter shades are wayyy too light. The medium ones are either cool or warm toned and Im neutral lol
Not all skin tones sell enough to even keep on shelves and not all stores have the space for EVERY SINGLE brand to come out with the never ending shades needed to cover ALL skin tones. So I can understand where the original sentiment came from.
@mawera 👏👏
You could argue that an African brand sold in Africa, does in fact not need to cater to all skin tones. I think there's a difference with IF the brand caters and if stores in a particular location stocks all the shades. I can't see why a shop would have to stock shades that don't sell in that region.
“To not include a shade means you haven’t thought about that person” yes, or even worse, they have and decided to dismiss it for profit reasons like thinking enough won’t sell of darker shades so there’s no point. Both are cheap cop outs for these massively rich brands.
Right. Makeup brands have got to put ethics first. I can't imagine being a certain skin tone and going shopping and hardly any brand carries my actual skin tone. I can admit I can't even imagine that. I think that's just horrible. And what kind of message is it sending to younger girls of those skin tones? That's horrible.
Yes you said it so well. It used to suck so bad looking at foundation and never being able to find my shade. It would drive me crazy like do ppl think black women don’t like or wear makeup. There’s no excuse for it. Ever. Makeup is universal. Also it’s still the same with so many eyeshadow palettes where so many of the colors are too light and would look so ashy on anyone with darker skin.
@@amyb7823 im telling you its really terrible. I am very very pale. Too pale for nearly every kinda affordable brand other than fenty beauty and my fenty shade is the palest. It's really tough because I can't highlight my undereyes. I can only kinda match my skin tone and that only from one not even affordable enough for me brand. When I contour I always looks like I've got mud in my face. I know that it's extremely rare to find people with my skin tone or lighter but it feels shitty not being able to go to a drugstore and get makeup that has to do with my skin. It makes me feel way too pale. I can't cover up my slight pimples because I look like I've got brown concealer in my face and the concealer that matches me costs 20€, which isn't worth it for me since I don't even enjoy the formula of it
100% agree!
I'm one of these nonexistent "inbetween shades". At 23 i still haven't found a matching foundation shade at the drugstore yet. Guess I'll have to wait until I can afford high-end 🤷🏻♀️😌
Jack ya have you tried the maybelline fit me foundation? That’s the only drugstore foundation that actually has my shade without me having to mix two.
Robert: 18:37 - 21:03
Me: LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!!
I’ve seen Scott Barnes do an everyday makeup look and it’s spectacular. The makeup he did on Tati for her channel and what he does on his TH-cam channel (and on Jennifer of course) is “editorial” makeup or stage makeup. He amps it up for the cameras.
I saw him do a subtle smokey eye look on an older actress and she looked gorgeous. He is versatile. He just doesn’t emphasize it in the media because he doesn’t need to.
Scott and Kevyn Aucoin (RIP) both made their names in how contour the face. His jawline colors and maybe heavy handed product works for his clients. His makeup palettes are divine, btw and, they work on every skin tone.
**I am a big Scott fan, knew him a long time ago but I have no association to him.
omg where could I find that? was it on youtube?
@@sunnyr.9670 - On Tati Westbrook’s TH-cam channel. Glamlife Guru.
Thank you for including wheelchair users when addressing one of the questions, it is so refreshing to see that! I am a manual wheelchair user who is a professional MUA.
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I'm also a wheelchair user and loved when he said that too 😊
You're right about Scott Barnes makeup style, Rob. Beside his thick makeup, he's great in balancing colors and product placement. For example in Tati's first tutorial with him, she had multiple contouring+highlighting+bronzing products but Scott kept the brows, eyeshadows, and lips simple. I saw multiple looks from Jennifer, it's still balanced even though you will see and feel the heavy texture of her skin. Meanwhile, some people I found in IG/YT do all this stuffs, mixing all bold colors without color theory consideration and for me it looks....overwhelmed, too much. Also this is another reason why editorial makeup looks by some talented artists on magazine done perfectly, because they know how to balance and they have color theory game.
Thanks for the video. I'd love to see your makeup videos with models ❤️
Exactly.. glam looks by insta/youtube folks is glitter/shimmer cut crease or halo eyes with super contour n highlighter everywhere n even ombre lips n baking etc its basically drag..
Scott makes his base to stand out.. even with the big lashes thing. Everyone wants mink lashes super big etc while having alot going on the lid.... he applies those fluffy lashes but eye makeup is always simple.. he doesnt use more than 2-3 shadows. He even said that it looks professional like that than using 5 shades. So everything is balanced
Safira Rara i tried to redo it and it was very heavy for the office lol. Looks great but it’s best for a special occasion for sure.
Yea i agree- do some tutorials on your clients
@@edinne24 yeah it's so thick hehehehe I love it for dancing/carnival/night event look, it feels makeup-ish but not too much. maybe you can tone down and eliminate some products, but still use his technique. I do minimze the bronzing part because I'm not really a bronzing person, only put them lightly on cheeks.
@@emyf9197 and with the addition of harsh, warm lighting [and facetune/photoshop 🤭], urgh it turns to be unpleasing picture. Even some drag queens don't rely on gazillion eyeshadow colors 😁 I saw some drag queens on their makeup, they pick small selection of pigmented shadows/creams, but still in thick application to make their look stand out.
I don’t understand how you don’t have millions of followers, you are so good , keep up the work, i love your channel!!!❤️
Thank you!! 🖤🖤
I know, I think the same thing.
Oh honey, he will. He DEF will. It's just a matter of time!
Yeah I was going to say... he will...
Jill Shah I think he will too. He's such a genuine, quality person. I really like his content too. He has great, entertaining ideas/content and I like how he points out the differences between "Instagram" or "TH-cam" makeup as opposed to makeup in real life.
The laws in the UK are the same for Europe. I love how Nikkie Tutorials has her symbol system.
I remember Scott Barnes himself saying "you'll look great on stage/ camera, but in person you might be a bit '-ah!!!' 😳", so yes, he knows 😂
When even Asian beauty brands are expanding their shade ranges you know the entire thing has changed. And that’s a very very very good thing.
You are amazing Robert. The fact you didn't forget about disabled folks when talking about inclusivity makes you stand out and it made me tear up a bit because we're always forgotten.
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Listening to Robert is like listening to your most soothing best friend, and the fact that Robert watches all my favorite TH-camrs is amazing 😍
Thank you!! 🖤🖤😝
Same lol
Lydia Copes sooooo true!!!!!!
Totally....like you'd just refill his coffee mug as he speaks...nodding with interest. Then we start planning a covered dish dinner with our other friends
I have told him he should do ASMR videos. His voice is so soothing!
Not a fan of that “old people can’t wear bright colours” comment!! My nan is 65 and she will always wear a bright turquoise eyeliner and it makes her eyes pop and she looks stunning with it!!!🥰🥰🥰
“I don’t care if you’re watching, you’re all terrible people” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I completely agree with you on the foundation colors! While I am a medium-light "color" my skin tone is VERY hard to match. It wasn't until the past 5-7 years that brands started getting "closer" to my true shade. Growing up, I always ended up too pink or too orange - even at say the MAC counter. The artists would always try to "make it work" and end up mixing several shades, which my teenage/early twenties self couldn't afford to buy. I'm happy to see brands stretching their range, but there's still a long way to go.
Man I feel this hard. I'm Korean/Black and I gave up on makeup for the longest time because 1. American makeup instantly broke out my sensitive skin back in the day like I put it on and instant bumps and 2. I'm in that same Medium-light category most of the time but hard to match since 2 seconds in the sun darkens me up so I had my pale neutral ass chest, dark golden yellow neck and my face shade changed constantly depending on how much of a hermit I could be. And ironically nothing was warm enough for me. Anytime someone tried to color match me since I knew zero about make up and still beginner now, it was too dark and/or too neutral. I was always in between shades and everything looked wrong. I just wanted to be like my friends or family who could pick out their shade but here I was having to guess at mixing stuff up to make it work for right color and work with my extremely picky, sensitive, oily oily skin. So its nice that I finally have stuff that I can actually wear after.... 9 years.
3ofClovers What foundation do you use now?
@@maximumeffort78 Just last week I got the Uoma Beauty Say What Foundation because of the Leap year sale in Honey Honey T1W and it perfectly match me I was so happy, just need to get a good primer to help out my pores with it tho (good primer for me is still work in progress). I can't get money for that all the time however, so the one I was using before was depending on coverage I want. Lighter days I use the Missha M perfect BB cream in 27, I have to use lightly colored powders on top sometimes with it and different ones depending on my skin shade at the time tho like Besame in medium and/or mixed with the warm tan or the Maybelline Fit me loose powders in I think medium. Medium coverage its the Colourpop stick foundation in 110w mixed with the A'pieu Madecassoside stick foundation. Sometimes I can get concealer that is much like the yellow I need but too dark and mix it with my just a tad lighter foundations to work. ^ ^;; Still have to mix but I can't wait to try out the Uoma one in summer for me. The real test, but I really like it so far for the finish and of course actually matching.
YES. I totally relate to this. I try to load on the sunscreen so I stay as true to my natural pale ass skin tone (I'm not even that fair, I'm in between a NC25-30 at my fairest) because as soon as I get even A SLIGHT tan, my skin is this weird mix of neutral olive-yellow that NO FOUNDATION has gotten right. The closest I've gotten is Too Faced Light Beige and Revolution C&D in F8.2. Even then, they run a little too neutral-pink so I have to balance it out with a yellow-toned concealer. Ugh, the struggles
I'm super glad Tati gave you a shout-out, I really hope that will boost your numbers, you are awesome and you deserve all the subscribers in the world.
That's how I found him! So glad I did!
Eww Tati
victoria alexander don’t be rude. It’s unbecoming
@@carliemccann6392 Tati's shady, she's not as clean as people think. I can do what I want.
victoria alexander you’re absolutely entitled to your opinion about a person you do not know. But truly, your comment is unwarranted and unbecoming. Are you five?
I have a relatively deep skin tone, I’m not deep dark but I’m not that light either. For years there was only two brands that were a decent match for me (I could get away with wearing MAC NW50 in the summer but it always looked weird on me in the winter) and in this moment where inclusivity should be on the forefront of most brands I literally refuse to except brands only coming out with 10 shades. If I can’t find a foundation in my skin tone I now refuse to put any money towards that brand 🤷🏾♀️ Even if I like their eyeshadow etc.
I support this 100%. Do not give money to companies that aren’t willing to be inclusive. You vote with your money. Don’t vote for people who aren’t willing to work for you.
I’m the same way. Recently I saw Almay...ALMAY in the drugstore extend their foundation lines like 2 shades deeper. They really think they are doing something. 🙄
I just rolled my eyes and walked away.
If you have a track record of being exclusive, you will NEVER receive my money. Money is power. You will never have that over me.
I am 52 years old and I love what you said about mature clients wanting shimmering, bright shadow. It really made me feel good. We shouldn't be limited by our age and I'm glad a young person as yourself feels this way.
Much love from Virginia, USA
Has Robert had a video about how to keep makeup hygienic? I have seen him have sound bits here and there but I would love a full video covering the topic~ ❤️
Idk if Robert has but Wayne Goss has. Check out his video on keeping your makeup products and tools hygienic 👌.
Saying not all brands need to cater to all skin tones is saying "it's not a problem because it's not a problem for me personally".
It's also basically saying " it's okay to be racist." But that's my personal opinion.
Joann Hope true.
I think it’s fine if they don’t also get mad at the brands that heavily cater to darker skin... But those people tend to do just that haha.
Quality over quantity tho. I'd rather have a few perfect shades/formulas than a lot of shit ones
princessptfo so you can enjoy that perfect foundation, but other people can’t? It’s a cop out. They have the money to create every shade in that perfect formula they just made. It’s not give and take; they can have it both ways.
The person who made that last comment has never gone to a brand and not been able to find their shade.
True!!
So true. I used to be quite pale so for some brands the foundation shades were just a tad dark for me, but even then - I realise I have TONNES of brands to choose from that have my shade, no matter how pale I am, and it would just be a shade too dark. Too many people can't find a shade anywhere near their skintone, it's ridiculous and I'm glad we are seeing an uprising in inclusive brands
@@TheRisingIcarus what are those tonnes of brands? I'm pale and never find a shade light enough for me in stores.... And shades too dark look bad on your face as the rest of your body will be even lighter then your face... What brands are you using? I think I once saw a 0.8 in a really expensive Lancome foundation but the undertone was way off.
EXOmake_meHorololo ! I’m also an extremely pale person. I use L’Oréal infallible liquid matte foundation in shade rose pearl. I also like the maybelline fit me in fair porcelain. I have a rose/pink undertone and those are two foundations I currently use. I will say the maybelline one tends to be a little lighter than the L’Oréal but I usually mix the two anyway and it matches very well. They’re both also pretty good coverage
@@TheRisingIcarus I'm a very pale guy, i use Maybelline's Fit Me foundation in the number 110, it's a very good foundation for oily/normal every-day makeup! And i think there is a lighter shade in the collection.
If you can't still don't find a foundation, you can use the LAColor's foundation that is pure white to mix in with your current foundation!
I love Smokey Glow! So glad you found her and I’d love to see you two collaborate for Glowmas - It’s like an advent calendar of all Hannah.
Yeeeees
I love smokey glow too! One of my favorites!
I’m 58 and I wore yellow and orange yesterday. It’s all in the way you do it , as you so rightly say. Love your vids! ❤️❤️❤️
I am so pale, I almost always wear the lightest shade a foundation line comes in and sometimes it's still not enough. So yes I struggle to find my shade. But, but, but! I know not as many people have my skin tone, so it makes sense it's less included.
On the other side, most brands miss like half the spectrum of darker tones that makes up a huge percent of the population! They don't leave them out because not a lot of people need them (like in my case). They leave out those tones on purpose because they're maybe racist or at least uninformed? To say that fair skin wearers struggle too, well, it's not really the same.
Btw I have a tan in my profile pic there. I'm like a vampire 😔
I am from India and people here have extremely light - light - medium - dark - deep dark skin tones. But most people have medium skin tones.
People here are obsessed with fair skin and you can see a lot of fairness cream and fairness soaps. People use lighter foundations and end up looking ashy.
Indian makeup brands only make foundations and other base products in 3 - 8 shades in which 90 % of the shades are for lighter skin tones and 10 % of the shades for medium skin tones.
I am the same way!
Exactly this like I'm pale with more of a cold undertone so most things are to orange and to dark but there will still be something that's close and can be fixed with concealer and more blending. For people of color it's way more common that a line of foundation doesn't have something that's even remotely close to their skin color. They used to be and still are highly unrepresented. Whereas I myself need to go outside more
@@gwendolynjonkers8695 I'm the same and I think since lockdown I've gotten worse. Used my normal shade (done in not great lighting) for a ID photo and it wasn't until I was at work that I realised I had the dreaded orange line near my jaw/neck. Looks like I'll need to find a new shade, and possibly a new brand if it turns out they changed their colours slightly when they revamped their product packaging
Yay a robert video! Since we're moving towards warmer weather, Could you do a video on makeup and sunscreen? I haven't found a way of wearing both without it looking so bad
Yes absolutely! 🖤🖤
Yeah also reapplying sunscreen over makeup
When I need to apply sunscreen over makeup, I use a spray.
Definitely include hot/dry and hot/humid
YESSS IT'S SUCH A GOOD IDEA FOR A VIDEO, I HAVEN'T FOUND A GOOD VIDEO ABOUT THIS
I love that you stand for natural beauty. I swear I used to watch makeup tutorials on TH-cam and used to think "how can they walk outside under the sunlight with that 3 cm mask of makeup?" BG just wore sooooo much makeup. Finally you came to the Booty Community (rich lux reference lmao), to show younger generations that you don't need to look like a drag queen to look beautiful. I'm so happy you're here sharing your thoughts and knowledge on makeup!
ColourPop is so guilty of releasing too much. I love the brand, but it’s like “can we enjoy what was just released before something else comes out?”
Yesss they release ALOT! 🖤🖤 hope you are well Michelle! 🖤🖤
I’m doing really well! I hope you are doing well and having a wonderful day as well:) ❤️❤️❤️
Some shadows are soooooo pretty but their palette system and it's color scheme are confusing.
I decided to never buy from them. Tried once and got annoyed how a £9 eyeshadow become a £23 pounds purchase since they kept on putting more and more money as I tried to purchase it, specially sales tax. Just had it to the product price already, it's dead annoying.
Holy crap, this is EXACTLY the brand I thought of when it comes to releasing TOO MUCH. They are the Fast-Fashion of makeup and good gods, it is just TOO MUCH
I know some people don't like how much you use your hands in videos, however I find the gentle clinking of your rings very soothing and comforting.
Back in the Stone Age, the high end cosmetics did a holiday set and a spring/summer set.
"You're all awful people 😑" in regards to his old workplace. 😂😂
Brutal honesty, in all facets, is why I love this channel.
I love love LOVE how you see the importance in including boys in makeup brands and ads 💕 My son is still very young, so this may or may not change, but he's always loved makeup and fashion. He seems to have even more fun with it when seeing male influences in the beauty world. I dread the day that he'll be picked on for it (though people are more accepting, I'm sure it will still happen), I absolutely love his personality and free spirit, I wish he saw more little boys like him. But I'm very happy to see men such as yourself to inspire him!
I am fair and extremely pink undertoned. Even when I use a cool/rose foundation it still makes me look so yellow like Marge Simpson. My best friend has the same issue. Don't get me started on Too Faced concealers and foundation... Butter!
I love how consciously you talked about all these subjects. Not just talking for talking. I've found your channel not long ago and I definitely stay here :D And about Urban Decay setting spray - I love to use it on my eye make up, when I do some shadows and stuff. I really need that because I cry a lot when I laugh (I do laugh a lot), apart from that I always smudge shadows all over my face with my hands, base is not enough. This spray deals with me bravely :)
I’ve finished a half of my urban decay all nighter bottle. Still suffer everytime. Smells like my fish sauce. 😩
😂😂😂😂🖤
That all nighter makes my skin look crusty and didn’t know why until Robert said that it may have powder in it and I can’t do powder on my face
shyanne paro you probably have dry skin. I have dry skin too. Before putting on makeup I give my face a good amount of rich moisturiser, then I wait for it to sink in for 15 mins, then makeup. Then I seal the whole thing with Fenty powder and All nighter mist. It really helps, maybe you can try it.
Giang Ơi ya I do I have sever eczema
It's interesting because I use the Skindinavia setting spray which does a good job, has no smell I can discern but, apparently, is exactly the same thing as All Nighter.
The 3 dislikes are probably the "awful" peeps from the salon but Robert don't care. Hahaha.
Yea that’s all my old managers from the salon! 😂 🖤🖤🖤
Omg that was a whole mood!!!! 😂
Hahaha yes 👏🏻👏🏻
I use a moisturizer or sunscreen instead of a primer... unpopular opinion, most TH-camrs don’t show how to incorporate sun screen into your makeup and I think that’s not great. If you stay home all day that’s one thing, but if you’re gonna leave your house at all ... ☀️
Yes agreed! 🖤
Thank you Lydia!
Lydia Copes yes! practice what you preach! I’d love to see this step more often and get recommendations.
Oh god! So true.... I must wear sunscreen even inside because a skin problems and I often ser that nobody do this step!!! I decide to experiment doing it like primer and I love it!!
"You're all awful people"...LOL can't wait to use that as I walk out the door when I retire 🤣🥰
Thank you Robert for agreeing that all makeup brands should cater to all skin tones. Its refreshing to see somone speak up about this, along with the men and women ignored by the companies, who often speak about it. Robert for the win!
It just amazes me how you always have such an educational yet hella relatable answer to everything you watch, it’s so refreshing to see on TH-cam and just in general... killer vid 💜💜
Thank you so much Kylie!!! 🖤🖤🖤
20:00 good for you for speaking out about skin tone gaps in foundations. It’s ethics period and I’m just smiling. I’m so proud of you. It’s something that needs to continue to be brought to these brands attention. They are ‘purposely’ leaving people out of the equation for one reason or another. And it’s not okay! It’s hurtful and cruel imo. Either way, just good on you for not tiptoeing around the subject and saying what matters!
Thank you so much Nadia! 🖤🖤🖤
I couldn’t agree more, Nadia. I love the way that Robert tackled that one head on.
Robert Welsh of course! It takes guts and it shows that you truly do care. ❤️❤️
lainey2988 exactly! Didn’t tiptoe around it like most people would.
Nadia Nanette agreed! That’s why I’ve always loved MUFE, they’ve had 50 shades for years and years.
Absolutely, when a brand doesn’t make your skin tone colors is flat out telling you “we don’t want you as a costumer” and it’s so frustrating!
i love how connected you are in the video, it’s like you’re talking to a friend 🤍🧿☁️
21:13 that was the purest and cutest thing ever. Nowadays youtubers often have that "if you don't like it, f**k off and don't watch my videos" attitude. It was refreshing to hear someone say "sorry, maybe next time" :)
🤣 🤣 🤣 “...I don’t care if they’re watching because they’re awful people...” I could not love him more. STAWPPPP LMAO ❤️
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Also. I'm forty-friggin-two and whoever says older people cant wear bright colors is ignorant. I love bright colors and get compliments all day every day on my makeup because I KNOW HOW TO APPLY IT. I know what I'm doing and it shows. Oh. And by the way, if you cant apply makeup well even boring ass brown eyeshadow looks like shit so🤷♀️ tell me I can't wear colors again B!!!!
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Yes queen
LOL so much truth! I do muted versions of brighter colors, not straight up neons or primary colors (personal preference/what looks good on my skin, I love the looks on others in all age groups), smoke out my eyes, use shimmers, love duochromes, my love of color is obvious. Also in my 40s, and like you, receive compliments when I do my eyes. It’s definitely all about technique, tones of a color, and what brings a person joy. Nobody “ages out” of makeup!
I don't know. Wait til you turn SIXTY-friggin- two (like me) and get unbelievably crepey eyelid skin and hooding. Make-up application becomes very tricky. Very difficult to blend shadows when your skin moves with the brush.
@@ritasicari7518 Upgrade to softer fluffier blending brushes. Use the sparkly and bright colors as accents, with matte mid tone and sculpting colors. I do my 73 year old mom's eye makeup, and she already had a hooded eye, before she got older. She has these great olive green eyes and I just love using a the dark metallic copper liner to show them off.
I like you. 😂 I’m 37 and I wear whatever colors I like. Fight me!! We got this.
For the licencing thing: Maybe it would be good to have a sort of test/exam someone need to pass before they can work in a salon/store? Especially focusing on the hygiene part, because I feel like learning how to make a good makeup look is maybe 'easier' to learn by themselves than proper Hygiene procedures.
Jörunn von Westernhagen Robert Welsh it could be a breif, affordable, class too with a test at the end. Like what we take in my state to get a food handlers card from the health department for food safety, but maybe a tad longer. It's one day, only a few hours long, and must be retaken every few years. I think its unfortunate that the US doesn't do that sort of thing for makeup application because beauty/cosmetology schools only cover sanitation as it relates to hair only. There are only a few makeup schools in the entire US so most makeup artists don't have the opportunity to attend one.
@@tankgirl2444 I just commented something similar! Though, my comment was a mini essay, but yes, same idea!
Sadly, many states (USA) don't require any for of training or licensing for makeup and are actually trying to deregulate licensing for hair and nails services. 😣
yeah that's like how they do it for tattoo shops. they have to take a sanitation and blood borne pathogens exam. that's the most important thing in these industries (i'm in hair and i wouldn't mind if they did away with "professional" licensure as long as they kept sanitation certs.)
See for hairstylists, in Ontario, you need you be licensed to work in a salon and you need your card with you at all times cause if they catch you they’ll fine you and the salon that let you do that. It used to be if at least one person had to be licensed but you either have to be licensed or an apprentice you can’t just cut hair anymore not even in your own business/home. Which tbh makes sense. I think makeup artists need something similar to that cause all I know is you don’t need any certification or regulation to work in a salon as an mua
I have so much respect for the fact that you don't do sponsorships! One reason i trust what you put out! We need more of that in this community!💛
He's right! I've turned so many of my friends on to NARS and fenty because they have shades deep enough that aren't all orange, grey, or red.
I'd still rather have week old vase water than the cherry nyquil smell in their cherry all nighters version...
It cosmetics comes to mind. Everytime I look at their line at sephora I wonder if they will expand their shades someday.
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J K Seriously, It Cosmetics ONLY sells shades for white people with warm-toned medium skin. They exclude like 94% of the entire human population from their shade range, including anyone who is cool toned, olive toned, fair, or dark 🤦🏻♀️
We want merch Robert saying no bake no cake or something..😂
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Or baking is for cakes, not your face! Omg I'd buy some merch! That's such a good idea!
I would buy it so fast.
Colleen Andrawis Me too!
Make-up ! No Cake-up!
Every time i watch his videos i always find myself saying out loud “i like this dude”. His vids are so refreshing to watch
The "not sponsored" disclaimer is Federal Law in the U.S. too. I would worry if someone DIDN'T disclose whether something was sponsored (or not sponsored). Licenses MUST be displayed in a visible area in the U.S. (Florida in particular).
the FTC just recently made it against law to not disclosed gifted or sponsored content for anyone making content that would be viewed by an American
Yes I was looking for this comment
Question from a kiwi - how can they monitor/enforce this law to people outside of the states, eg. Robert being in England and having a viewer in the US?
It just feels so good listening to someone who truly knows what he’s talking about and not those „selfnamed make up artist on social media“
I love how upfront and honest Robert Welsh is! This is the level of transparency we as viewers would like to see from all content creators (in my opinion)! 🖤
Thank you for addressing the diversity of foundation for skintones. I'm Asian and it's always difficult to find the perfect foundation because not all of us are oily as what others think, not all of us are yellow undertone as what the market portrays us. Asian skin is very diverse so I appreciate those brands who really take time and effort to do research than put us in a box of "Asian".
could you possibly do a glasses makeup tutorial? v hard to make eyeshadow look good underneath glasses
Yes yes yes!!! And how on earth to stop or minimize the marks on nose from glasses it ruins my makeup i dont wear my glasses all the time but if i say go to cinema i need them then when i take them off to go about my day my nose makeup ruined!!
Put eyeshadow primer on your nose bridge!
@@ambitionroad thanks will try this!!
"Not every brand has to cater for every skintone." - Said someone who has probably NEVER had trouble finding their shade in EVERY brand.
Well go for one that makes your shade then. Simple.
THANK YOU
I think this is a bit of an American/European centric opinion. I do think there are places on Earth where a makeup company that only sells in say, one or two countries, would genuinely lose money if they made foundation colours for every skin tone. Whether that money loss is worth making 0.01 of consumers feel included is a calculation I think every business is going to have the same conclusion on.
princessptfo wow what a perfect solution! 🙄🙄🙄🙄
princessptfo and if none make my shade then what? Clearly this is something you never had to worry about. So cuz it doesn’t effect you who cares. Can’t relate 🙄
Today as I was talking to my sister, she started complaining about how her makeup doesn't last long and it will fade away even before she reaches the party venue. And she further told me there's this Welsh person on TH-cam who said that makeup fixer does nothing. I said sis, I am the one who shared some of his relevant videos to you first and told her about both of you ( James) and for some reason I felt proud sharing it with her. And the way you speak is so convincing that even though she hardly knows you, she completely believes in all your opinions and ideas. Great Job
As somebody who regularly wears blue eyeshadow I 100% stand with the if it’s done correctly thing! It’s all about application and having a good colour palette where the colours work together
i agree with you about smaller youtubers tending to be more honest about reviews because they may not have ulterior motives, but i think it can't be made as a blanket statement.
Love you Robert 😊
I've learned so much from Robert n his channel. Truthfully, I'm still a beginner at make up but after watching his vids n following his advice, I can see my confidence going up when applying my own makeup❤ thank you Robert💜💜
Aw Thank you!! 🖤🖤
I’ve learned SO much ..& I’m 39 🥴🤪. He’s such a refreshing person & channel. He’s the best 🥰
You have really pretty eyes tbh - like just the way they’re rotated and shaped.. also your eyelids- istg you’re so pretty
Thank you!! 😝🖤
Robert Welsh What’s your opinion on “PICTURRESQUE | REGINA”? Could you possibly do a reaction video to one of her looks?
I love when he wears contacts too. I’m just in love with him, his channel & his brother. They’re the best 🥰
Wait...I just now realized that one of your rings is a goth Mickey Mouse!
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I love the skeleton Mickey ring and want one for myself!
Awww I just love that you said older people can enjoy colors too! I think people took a general rule and ran with it. You are so amazing!
I am 54 years old and I SOOO want you to do my makeup! You seem so kind but honest and obviously very talented. I love watching you.
I’m old as dirt and I wear color and shimmer all the time. Literally. thank you for saying this.