One thing I JUST realized I did not point out, is the profit calculation at the end is already taking out the cost of 600 gold for all the nodes SO any subsequent years you're profiting 600 more gold than those min/max
where the true profit is at is getting 4 friends to funnel resources to you or you to one of the others to get all these nodes and just log in at the same time to harvest together, all the nodes listed in this video can be harvested once per day by an unlimited amounts of accounts.
Of all profitable things, I think the Living World 3-4 resource nodes are the best. I have all of them, and by harvesting them all first thing every time I log in, I always have access to any ascended trinket, backpack and obsidian shards. But ultimately I think I've spent more gold on my home instance than I've made, but in turn I don't have to wait for a lot of time gated items.
Very true! I highlighted the actual real profit makers, but I'm also going to likely eventually get the whole thing filled out at this rate (Except maybe that bloody treasure chest) just because I like completion.
LV3/4 nodes is the second worst you could throw money in, after Basic Farming nodes. Especially considering it will pay back in 3+ years. Farming home nodes for UM has literally no sense as you can do winterberries runs with all your characters. Need more UM? Just bring another character. Home nodes is the way to slowly and lazy accumulate map currencies for "just some case". It has nothing to do with building solid income
@@alexandermarinin7036 which is completely untrue for newer/ish players that do not have a bunch of character slots and then there is the TIME factor. You can do a home instance in 4-5 minutes AND still do what you do as well. I have played since launch. I cannot even begin to fathom how much money I have made over 10 years with my home.
in addition to the volatility tools, now the infinite tools packs come whit a selector of a Glyph and can choose Volatility, so no need to wait to volatility tools to come
you absolutely neglected to take the cost of volatile/unbound magic into account. that does extend the time until the nodes paid for themself a good bit.
3:35 Orrian Oyster Node purchased at Sirens Landing 4:08 Winterberry Bush from Slooshoo in Bitterfrost frontier near [&BH0JAAA=] Sorrows eclipse waypoint
dottir at the end of a name means daughter and is pronounced similar and is equivalent to the son endings in names. Women were named after their mother and sons after their fathers.
4:00 50g per node is going to put you in the red real fast and you'll have to do it daily to climb back outta that hole BEFORE you turn a profit. most will get burned out before that happens. It's better to make friends with others, many others (make nick names as home instance farmer friends :D ) who already have a full instance and save yerself a ton of gild! OR park an alt by the rata sum home instance and log in round reset or after work and see if anyone is giving free tours of their instance to farm. PLUS this is another way to make tips if you do have full instance already.
I couldn't add to my previous comment... A decent alternative to the infinite use tools is the limited use volatile gathering tools in LWS4 maps that you can buy for karma.
I got a full home instance with farm plots included got everything from tp and when items were discounted on gem store. I farmed gold for 3 glyphs of volitility on my unlimited tools someone gave me as a gift one fathers day. Be surprised how much volitile magic i get daily. Just from farming my home instance. Granted i did that when ran out of leggie ideas for my main.
Great video. Just wanted to point out that on top of the 50g per node purchased you should include the Gold value for the 10k volatile/unbound magic too. For example, 10k volatile magic is worth roughly 40g (1 gold profit per 250 VM) so that plus 50g is 90g total cost per node.
It kinda sounds like the other nodes are holding the volatile magic nodes back. What if you just didn’t get the unbound magic nodes? Would the whole operation overall become a net-profit sooner?
It would technically become net profit sooner, but then you also make less gold after a longer period of time.Because even though they may "siphon" some of the profit VM Gives you, within the year they're still paid for, so every day after that is money that you still make more of compared to only having VM.
@@CritiasBG but it costs resources to acquire them. You have to recur the value before it’s a profit. You have to pay 50 gold + 10,000 unbound magic up front. That’s not nothing. Profit = income - expenses. More income doesn’t always mean more profit if the expenses are increased also.
@rabidconscience Yeah if you're on a budget, then Quartz Crystal/Krait obelisk is the strongest 30g, then the Volatile magic is gonna be the fastest ROI for ya. Can pick up all that for under 300G
Can I ask what you mean by during Janthir Wilds. Isn't it an expansion? You are saying it like it ends. Like, Heart of Thorns is an old expansion but it still runs.
With Arena Net's 1 Year expansion cycle model they've adopted, I was simply framing the video in a "This is how much you can earn with your new homestead from day 1 to the day the next expansion releases". You're entirely correct, it's still going to be around, it was just a literary timeframe.
I've been combining my Charged Quarts into Piece of Skyscale Foods, since I'm also looking for ways to get ride of my Blood Dust. ~4.5g profit for no real investment. Used to be more when people were buying Skyscale Food.
Two of the three you can unlock are gem store, so you’d only be able to get one if you were doing it through in-game means like this video was highlighting. It still has a nice return and utility especially if you like cooking for your guildies, but I don’t remember even an estimate of how much it cost to unlock.
@@hellendoodles about 800g for 2 blacklion plot at current gold to gem conversion and let's say 50g max for the one obtained via gourmet training to that you add 250g for bounty glyph so total is 1100g. I pay about 90g to craft seed for 12 slot for 30day and harvest between 18 and 26 ascended seed i sell for 10 to 15gold. My monthly craft of seed is paid off in 7-8 day and past the 4th month you make pure profit
@@programmingwithchatti4063i'm doing the cultivated peppercorn this month, i'm not sure i'll do it next month tho, the price is constantly dropping. If i were to chose what to harvest today i'd do cultivated clove
So … is your personal house going to act as one more home instance? Or a separate item. So you can purchase a second set of nodes? … otherwise to the players who already has the nodes in their home instance, you are simply offering a different location in which to harvest what you already have. ( I am hoping the new home offers the ability to find furniture recipes in the world a la ESO, craft them and place them to your satisfaction. That will be a satisfying point of difference.)
At this point the language they used in the article was just an alt location essentially, rather than a second set. They haven't really revealed much additional yet but it definitely seems some type of customization is on the way. I think they're finally giving us the home instance update we wanted but wanted to centralize it rather than make different ones for each race. I'm hoping we can make it feel like our home cities a bit more.
Not a second set just a alternative location to go get them. I believe from what they say that homestead will have a guild type place furniture/feature item system.
I thought they said it wasn’t going to be like the current home instance. Everyone is assuming it will be a customized home instance but no where does it say that. Pretty sure they also said it would be different from the home instance. I’m at work so I can’t source my info.
@@FreelanceDubs "The Homesteads feature is unlocked and developed through an associated Mastery line as a place to express yourself, share space with your friends, and access nodes and unlockable resources from your personal story home instance" Is from the original announcement of Janthir Wilds post on the website, which is where I sourced talking about personal home instance nodes converting to the Homestead. As far as customized, that's true that they didn't say it as far as fully customized, but they also say "your own homestead, an account-wide personal instance with a structure and land for you to decorate and cultivate" so I think that's everyone having HOPE that they wouldn't taunt us with some actual personalization and then just make it like, checkboxes. At the very least I'd expect guild-hall style decorating, but I hope for more.
I'm hoping we get a bit more info soon, personally! We've gotten quite a bit of info about how each class will play with spear, so I'd really hope we get some more info about these!
I filled out my personal home instance a couple years ago with almost all of the available nodes except any pertaining to the Super Adventure Box, as I don't play any of that (just personal taste, no other reason). I found that between expansion and Living World releases, if I wasn't working on crafting another Legendary weapon, I would still try to login to GW2 every day almost, just to farm my home instance and loot the chests at the end of jumping puzzles and a couple other good alt parking spots, and even though I would keep any materials that could be used for Legendary, or Ascended crafting, and sell most of the rest, I could make about 2 gold per day. This was NOT good gold per hour of play time, as it would take me about 1 hour to farm my home instance and the guild hall nodes, then cycle through all of my 26 other alt characters. I'm sure I could have made much more gold by some other methods that actually involved playing the game, so I don't recommend what I just described to anyone wanting to make lots of gold. It is just what I would do almost every day, while watching TV, as I could do it on my laptop with almost zero effort, and it helped me a lot, to make a little gold, plus gather materials for crafting Legendary weapons. I've now crafted at least one Legendary weapon of every type, plus 3 duplicates, for weapons that can be dual wielded. I played a little more when EoD & SotO were released, and I'm planning on playing much more when Janthir Wilds is released, as I think the maps will appeal to me more than the SotO maps did. I hope that all of my farming nodes will get transferred to the new Homestead, like everyone is assuming, but I haven't seen any confirmation of this from Arenanet yet.
“you can also access nodes and unlocks you've acquired for your personal story home instance in your homestead.” From the official store page, quoted on the wiki.
Dang, that's a heck of a long term payoff. That's incredible. Thanks for sharing that, and I hope you enjoy Janthir Wilds more than SoTo! Someone else already beat me to the quote confirming the nodes!
Either I have not understood your info or I am worried by your methods of calculating values- what value did you put on the laurels needed for buying Quartz crystal nodes and Krait node? You state trophy shipments give 2.5 gold ish average but have you included the loss of 1 gold to buy. The Krait node does nothing that other Hero Points don't do free of charge. I am not convinced that your living season 3/4 nodes have had the gold value of using the unbound/volatile magic required to buy included. I found the payback cost/time of 3 volatile gypths unclear (or missing?). Like I say either I am slow on the uptake (quite possible|) or you are misleading folks.
Hello friend! I think we just communicate and look at things differently. differently, and I'm just a human, as are you, so I definitely am not immune to making oversights in math or communication. let me try to clear some things up, definitely don't want you to feel like I've misled you or anyone else cause that's certainly not what I spent 15+ hours trying to do with this video! To start with a clear one, I definitely could have explained clearer, but we can see at 10:20 in the video we're earning 82,125-129,575 in 365 days. Trophy shipments are 250, so thats 328 to 518 Trophy shipments in a year. If we multiply that by 1.5870 (1G, 58S, 70C) or 1.8293 (1G, 82S, 93C) , we get 520.536 to 947.5774 (I did some rounding up in my final math). To your point, your comment from two hours ago why the range is different despite the prices not being correct -That's because my final range I show ALSO accounts for the volatile magic variation, not only the price variation. Because there's 2 variables working together. So the lowest value, the 520.536 is minimum volatile magic and minimum average drop, and the highest value is the maximum volatile magic and maximum drop, because that's the full range of variability. I hope that clears that up. As far as the Krait Obelisk node, you are correct. The krait node does nothing that other hero points don't do. at 1:33 I say that it does nothing on its own, other than creating a hero point in your home instance. To me I felt that was clear enough that it's just a convenience thing, though I do see how I could have been clearer on it. I put zero value on the laurels needed for buying Quartz Crystal/Krait node, because they're available entirely free with some effort since Festival of the Four Winds. And even if you did buy them, I don't look at laurels as gold, they're a byproduct of playing that can be turned into gold or other items, so I wouldn't gold cost them out. The reason for magic not being costed out is that I've always looked at currencies aside from gold as opportunity cost, not the gold value of that currency, so it never crossed my mind to really even factor them in. While gold you typically have to do some sort of selling or converting to make a reasonable amount, you just get things like Laurels or Magic for playing the game. To put it in a more direct example - To me the griffon mount costs 250 gold, because I spend 250 gold to get the things to unlock it. To me the skyscale has unavoidable costs of (on a quick google search here, it's been a while) 41 Gold mandatory. But it also costs 250 of each LWS4 currency. I've never even looked at the skyscale as costing the gold value of all those currencies plus the gold. it's just not how I see the game. I can understand that you may see it that way, and I can definitely see I could have been a bit clearer in saying "I am not calculating that cost here". I did not give a final range of how long to pay back volatile tools as I looked at it and realized there are too many variables for me to give any meaningful cost to repayment. You'd have to look at gem cost, gold cost, whether the tools were on sale, what the sale prices of the tools could be, how many nodes are harvested per day, etc. I simply gave the sample of how much you'd average in a year of only home instance node farming, and the total price of the glyphs if purchased from the TP. That being said, I do in my final walkthrough of all the profits, lay out exactly what ranges of Unbound/Volatile magic, specifically say what gold values I am using in calculating during each step. Then at 13:17 I specifically give the Gross gold earned from unbound and volatile, and state that they cost 600 Gold, which reinforces that I costed out 50G per unbound, 50G per volatile, and 50 for the eternal ice. I laid out every calculation in text and verbally so even if we disagree on whether I should have used the opportunity cost of magic you need to farm, I definitely don't think anything about my video would be misleading. If I hadn't shown exactly how I did all the math, I would agree its misleading. But not only did I give a 15 minute long video with visual examples of what it all costs, I showed how much it returns you 1 day and a 365 day period, so any of it can be reverse engineered by anybody. Like I said, I think we just look at the same information differently. There's a lotta people on this planet and we don't all think the same. I thought I did an effective job in communicating all the information clearly, but based on your two comments, I could have done a better job and will keep that in mind for my future videos. Thanks for your time.
@@syzxgamingx Thanks for taking the time for explaining. While not counting the cost of laurels/magic is one valid way of looking at it (they're a byproduct of playing- is that not true of gold too, so should we discount that? ;)), it is what is known as a opportunity cost. Each living world 4 node costs 50g which you consider, however the 10k magic which is not in your calculations could buy instead 40 trophy shipments, if we multiply that by per profit of 1.5870 (1G, 58S, 70C) or 1.8293 (1G, 82S, 93C) the cost of the magic is 63.5G to 73.2G which is noticeably more than the straight 50G of the 50G 10k magic you consider in your calculations. Similarly laurels are worth on average at present (Light Crafting Bag) 93 s 60 c. So for the 25 laurels required for quartz node that is 23.4G extra cost above the 15G you consider. Fast farming website also has the ROI data at fast.farming-community.eu/gathering/home-nodes . Thanks for the video though, it is very good at showing how good home nodes can be.
You do NOT need the krait obelisk shard to upgrade quartz crystals, you can do it for free at hero points in pretty much any map. Laurels are worth almost 1 gold each, and they also unlock a lot of exclusive skins and other valuable stuff, counting them as 0 value is a bit weird. I feel like the intention of the video was good, but it's very misleading in some parts.
I appreciate your comment, and this has been brought up multiple times. This video definitely taught me a lesson about more widely considering every single possible variable in how people perceive things differently than I do, and I need to do a better job of accounting for that and also just explaining myself. The only thing laruels are needed for I also point out are available entirely for free during festival of the four winds (Which was coming up when I made this, and is currently out) or available via an achievement (in case of the Krait Obelisk) which is one reason I didn't even think to count the cost. As far as the Krait obelisk in general, if you notice I never specifically say anywhere that you need it to make the charged quartz crystals. The use-case is that it just makes your daily round faster, but by failing to actually say that as well, I failed people who don't know that already. I also discussed with someone a while back in the comments that I fundamentally don't view using other currency as "Gold loss" and don't measure opportunity cost like that in my daily play. If I have karma, I'm spending karma. I'm not thinking about the gold I could make from that karma and saying "Well if I buy this minipet I'm spending 27 gold" or anything like that outside of extreme circumstances. I appreciate your time in watching the video & the thoughtful comment.
I can't find that information anywhere. Are you referring to 300 provisioner tokens needed, which you *can* use charged quartz crystal for? If so, I highly recommend using much cheaper options rather than charged quartz crystal
Very true. I really need to remember that underwater gear exists. I have some alt toons I've completely forgotten, and then realize I've got like a level 52 yellow spear and im like eee yikes.
I will definitely look at doing this in the future, though with my schedule I make no promises lest I disappoint you. When you say text do you mean like a word or excel type doc kinda thing?
Yeah kinda sucks, they are updating the guild halls with this new tech, they could do the same with the old home instances, just give the basic options, and leave the advanced stuff for the expansion, give people a "taste" of what they can get with Jantir Wilds.
Why does this video has so many dislikes? 550 likes and 120 dislikes. Did he say something wrong, or is just people mad at him disclosing "money secrets"?
Those 'return dislikes' plugins don't work accurately. At the time of my reply the video has 51 dislikes according to my official analytics, in full transparency. Many people in the comments didn't like my lack of calculating the volatile magic used to purchase the nodes into the profit calculations, as I view any non-gold currency I use in this (and other games) as, not gold, therefore not worth calculating into the gold values of things. It's a difference in opinion in looking at virtual currencies. That's my best guess for where many of the dislikes came from.
If the trophy return is on average 2G 58S to 2G 82S then why is the average return over a set number of days 521G 32s to 948G 12S - why has the ratio of max to min average changed. Even if the 1G cost to buy the trophy is subtracted for 1G 58S to 1G 82S profit then the ratio over your set number of days still does not have the same max to min ratio. EDIT, extra info provided by Syzx (thanks) that ratio is effected on the time data by the extra variability of the volatile magic harvesting by glyph tools.
As far as charged quartz crystal, it's a specific to home instance node drop. Can find it here: wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Quartz_Crystal_Formation I also never said it turns into 25 per day, or even that you get 8 per day. I lay out the exact daily range, mention the chances of both additional drops. I say at 1:00 how exactly you typically make a charged quartz crystal, and that the base value of all 25 crystals you need is 80 gold. at 1:40 I say you need 25 quartz crystals, and lay out the base value of 80 silver once again. Nothing to bust here. I actually heavily under-value the quartz crystal node in my calculations because I never actually added any of that into the profit generation, I just assumed a generation of 1 charged quartz crystal per day made by *purchasing* the quartz crystal needed. So my math in this video is actually intentionally under what it would be, so I didn't overestimate any numbers.
i'd suggest just play the game everyday for 6 months straight, take those mats and gold collected to then craft a legendary ( see which sells the most and are most expensive) then craft legendary and sell it.(of course leveling up crafting profs while you play everyday) and live off that profit for the next couple of years. being able to flip higher more expensive things allows you to make more money off 1 investment. I made Twilight in my first 6 months sold it and lived off that profit for the next decade! as well as making a 2nd twilight in the next 6 months and owning my first legendary. Plus its way easier to craft legendaries once you have the profit from another sale.
plus if yer talking about rare recipes most dont have are you subtracting the cost of the recipes or pretending they are free when u get it from a drop. if most dont have recipe this guide fails for most. simple as that.
There are two recipies. The step by step one for the pearl handcannon is not rare, just need 400 huntsman, and then its either 25k karma or 8 silver. In my profit calculation at 2:13 on screen for that that the base materials cost 2G 96S 47C and add in the 1G 60S quartz crystal cost to make the two charged quarts crystals (80 silver, doubled) and show the sell price of the item that requires two quartz crystals. If you subtract those material prices from the sell price, you get the profit after all costs are considered. (Again assuming you paid for the quartz to make the charged quarts) and then you divide that profit in half, because it takes two crystals, and you get how much each crystal is worth. At 2:31 I clearly say "If you use buy order pricing for the raw materials, and sell listing price for the output, you can make something like the Commander's Pearl Trident for 10 and a half gold profit." so yes, that is also subtracting the cost of the materials. The recipe is not purchased. I never go into that because there are literally 0 on the trading post, only buy orders. If you did somehow buy one for the current buy order pricing it 1G 66S so it's not even much. It's not really about pretending they're free, it's about the fact that I never said to buy it, I said IF you have the recipe.
One thing I JUST realized I did not point out, is the profit calculation at the end is already taking out the cost of 600 gold for all the nodes SO any subsequent years you're profiting 600 more gold than those min/max
where the true profit is at is getting 4 friends to funnel resources to you or you to one of the others to get all these nodes and just log in at the same time to harvest together, all the nodes listed in this video can be harvested once per day by an unlimited amounts of accounts.
Very very true, split the cost & share the profit and you'll be big ballin' in no time.
Of all profitable things, I think the Living World 3-4 resource nodes are the best. I have all of them, and by harvesting them all first thing every time I log in, I always have access to any ascended trinket, backpack and obsidian shards. But ultimately I think I've spent more gold on my home instance than I've made, but in turn I don't have to wait for a lot of time gated items.
Very true! I highlighted the actual real profit makers, but I'm also going to likely eventually get the whole thing filled out at this rate (Except maybe that bloody treasure chest) just because I like completion.
LV3/4 nodes is the second worst you could throw money in, after Basic Farming nodes. Especially considering it will pay back in 3+ years. Farming home nodes for UM has literally no sense as you can do winterberries runs with all your characters. Need more UM? Just bring another character. Home nodes is the way to slowly and lazy accumulate map currencies for "just some case". It has nothing to do with building solid income
@@alexandermarinin7036 which is completely untrue for newer/ish players that do not have a bunch of character slots and then there is the TIME factor.
You can do a home instance in 4-5 minutes AND still do what you do as well. I have played since launch. I cannot even begin to fathom how much money I have made over 10 years with my home.
in addition to the volatility tools, now the infinite tools packs come whit a selector of a Glyph and can choose Volatility, so no need to wait to volatility tools to come
Ooh, do you know if that includes the infinite tools you get for buying the Deluxe version of Janthir Wilds?
@@oricalle2106the tools that come with the deluxe does not include a glyph pack.
@@JohnPaulRojas good to know, ty!
Is it for all the infinite tool packs that are available at the gem store?
Not me dating myself with how long ago I bought mine LOL
you absolutely neglected to take the cost of volatile/unbound magic into account. that does extend the time until the nodes paid for themself a good bit.
Breaking it down into gold per hour was a game changer for me. Thank you! Gonna go buy some nodessss...
3:35 Orrian Oyster Node purchased at Sirens Landing 4:08 Winterberry Bush from Slooshoo in Bitterfrost frontier near [&BH0JAAA=] Sorrows eclipse waypoint
dottir at the end of a name means daughter and is pronounced similar and is equivalent to the son endings in names. Women were named after their mother and sons after their fathers.
Thank you for educating my foolish self, I appreciate it!
4:00 50g per node is going to put you in the red real fast and you'll have to do it daily to climb back outta that hole BEFORE you turn a profit. most will get burned out before that happens. It's better to make friends with others, many others (make nick names as home instance farmer friends :D ) who already have a full instance and save yerself a ton of gild! OR park an alt by the rata sum home instance and log in round reset or after work and see if anyone is giving free tours of their instance to farm. PLUS this is another way to make tips if you do have full instance already.
You forgot to mention that any node that gives ascended materials also has a chance to give a chest of ascended equipment
I couldn't add to my previous comment...
A decent alternative to the infinite use tools is the limited use volatile gathering tools in LWS4 maps that you can buy for karma.
I got a full home instance with farm plots included got everything from tp and when items were discounted on gem store. I farmed gold for 3 glyphs of volitility on my unlimited tools someone gave me as a gift one fathers day. Be surprised how much volitile magic i get daily. Just from farming my home instance. Granted i did that when ran out of leggie ideas for my main.
For the charged quarts crystal do not forget you can trade them in the Wizards Tower for tokens to make legendaries!
Great video. Just wanted to point out that on top of the 50g per node purchased you should include the Gold value for the 10k volatile/unbound magic too.
For example, 10k volatile magic is worth roughly 40g (1 gold profit per 250 VM) so that plus 50g is 90g total cost per node.
It kinda sounds like the other nodes are holding the volatile magic nodes back. What if you just didn’t get the unbound magic nodes? Would the whole operation overall become a net-profit sooner?
what do you mean the other nodes are holding VM nodes back? You legit get more loot?
It would technically become net profit sooner, but then you also make less gold after a longer period of time.Because even though they may "siphon" some of the profit VM Gives you, within the year they're still paid for, so every day after that is money that you still make more of compared to only having VM.
@@CritiasBG but it costs resources to acquire them. You have to recur the value before it’s a profit. You have to pay 50 gold + 10,000 unbound magic up front. That’s not nothing. Profit = income - expenses. More income doesn’t always mean more profit if the expenses are increased also.
@@syzxgamingx i thought you said in the video that the unbound magic node didn’t pay for themselves within a year?
@rabidconscience Yeah if you're on a budget, then Quartz Crystal/Krait obelisk is the strongest 30g, then the Volatile magic is gonna be the fastest ROI for ya. Can pick up all that for under 300G
Can I ask what you mean by during Janthir Wilds. Isn't it an expansion? You are saying it like it ends. Like, Heart of Thorns is an old expansion but it still runs.
With Arena Net's 1 Year expansion cycle model they've adopted, I was simply framing the video in a "This is how much you can earn with your new homestead from day 1 to the day the next expansion releases". You're entirely correct, it's still going to be around, it was just a literary timeframe.
I've been combining my Charged Quarts into Piece of Skyscale Foods, since I'm also looking for ways to get ride of my Blood Dust. ~4.5g profit for no real investment. Used to be more when people were buying Skyscale Food.
If you want to get rid of Bloodstone Dust get Gleam of Sentience or Herta
@@DestructX those have a limit per day. :P
@@VirtuesOfSin yeah but Herta consumes a whole stack. Believe me soon you won't have abundance of Bloodstone
I made so much gold selling these when they were 7g a piece lol, same for the Extra-Pungent Treat, i think they were 12g each.
You did not mention the garden plots. I make 8 gold a day using a glyph of bounty
Two of the three you can unlock are gem store, so you’d only be able to get one if you were doing it through in-game means like this video was highlighting. It still has a nice return and utility especially if you like cooking for your guildies, but I don’t remember even an estimate of how much it cost to unlock.
@@hellendoodles about 800g for 2 blacklion plot at current gold to gem conversion and let's say 50g max for the one obtained via gourmet training to that you add 250g for bounty glyph so total is 1100g.
I pay about 90g to craft seed for 12 slot for 30day and harvest between 18 and 26 ascended seed i sell for 10 to 15gold.
My monthly craft of seed is paid off in 7-8 day and past the 4th month you make pure profit
@@Kazeshh what seeds do you choose to craft to make that much meanwhile i m here wasting it on garlic
@@programmingwithchatti4063i'm doing the cultivated peppercorn this month, i'm not sure i'll do it next month tho, the price is constantly dropping. If i were to chose what to harvest today i'd do cultivated clove
So … is your personal house going to act as one more home instance? Or a separate item. So you can purchase a second set of nodes? … otherwise to the players who already has the nodes in their home instance, you are simply offering a different location in which to harvest what you already have. ( I am hoping the new home offers the ability to find furniture recipes in the world a la ESO, craft them and place them to your satisfaction. That will be a satisfying point of difference.)
At this point the language they used in the article was just an alt location essentially, rather than a second set. They haven't really revealed much additional yet but it definitely seems some type of customization is on the way. I think they're finally giving us the home instance update we wanted but wanted to centralize it rather than make different ones for each race. I'm hoping we can make it feel like our home cities a bit more.
Not a second set just a alternative location to go get them. I believe from what they say that homestead will have a guild type place furniture/feature item system.
I thought they said it wasn’t going to be like the current home instance. Everyone is assuming it will be a customized home instance but no where does it say that. Pretty sure they also said it would be different from the home instance. I’m at work so I can’t source my info.
@@FreelanceDubs "The Homesteads feature is unlocked and developed through an associated Mastery line as a place to express yourself, share space with your friends, and access nodes and unlockable resources from your personal story home instance" Is from the original announcement of Janthir Wilds post on the website, which is where I sourced talking about personal home instance nodes converting to the Homestead. As far as customized, that's true that they didn't say it as far as fully customized, but they also say "your own homestead, an account-wide personal instance with a structure and land for you to decorate and cultivate" so I think that's everyone having HOPE that they wouldn't taunt us with some actual personalization and then just make it like, checkboxes. At the very least I'd expect guild-hall style decorating, but I hope for more.
@@syzxgamingx oh lmao I totally missed that.
how tha fuck do I get so much unbound/volatile magic to buy all the nodes ._.
I wonder if we'll have more details only when the expansion releases or what.
60 days.... you can use Wizards Tower to figure these things
@@ElfTaleFilms ?? ? I didn't ask when the expansion releases lol
@@ZanesZygot Yes you did. Check your previous comment, troll
@@ElfTaleFilms The video is about housing and in my comment I wonder if we'll have any new details soon or only when it releases.
I'm hoping we get a bit more info soon, personally! We've gotten quite a bit of info about how each class will play with spear, so I'd really hope we get some more info about these!
I filled out my personal home instance a couple years ago with almost all of the available nodes except any pertaining to the Super Adventure Box, as I don't play any of that (just personal taste, no other reason). I found that between expansion and Living World releases, if I wasn't working on crafting another Legendary weapon, I would still try to login to GW2 every day almost, just to farm my home instance and loot the chests at the end of jumping puzzles and a couple other good alt parking spots, and even though I would keep any materials that could be used for Legendary, or Ascended crafting, and sell most of the rest, I could make about 2 gold per day. This was NOT good gold per hour of play time, as it would take me about 1 hour to farm my home instance and the guild hall nodes, then cycle through all of my 26 other alt characters. I'm sure I could have made much more gold by some other methods that actually involved playing the game, so I don't recommend what I just described to anyone wanting to make lots of gold. It is just what I would do almost every day, while watching TV, as I could do it on my laptop with almost zero effort, and it helped me a lot, to make a little gold, plus gather materials for crafting Legendary weapons. I've now crafted at least one Legendary weapon of every type, plus 3 duplicates, for weapons that can be dual wielded. I played a little more when EoD & SotO were released, and I'm planning on playing much more when Janthir Wilds is released, as I think the maps will appeal to me more than the SotO maps did. I hope that all of my farming nodes will get transferred to the new Homestead, like everyone is assuming, but I haven't seen any confirmation of this from Arenanet yet.
“you can also access nodes and unlocks you've acquired for your personal story home instance in your homestead.” From the official store page, quoted on the wiki.
Dang, that's a heck of a long term payoff. That's incredible. Thanks for sharing that, and I hope you enjoy Janthir Wilds more than SoTo! Someone else already beat me to the quote confirming the nodes!
Luckily I already have a full node home instance!
Same and when i did that saved of gold for volitility glyphs.
Either I have not understood your info or I am worried by your methods of calculating values- what value did you put on the laurels needed for buying Quartz crystal nodes and Krait node? You state trophy shipments give 2.5 gold ish average but have you included the loss of 1 gold to buy. The Krait node does nothing that other Hero Points don't do free of charge. I am not convinced that your living season 3/4 nodes have had the gold value of using the unbound/volatile magic required to buy included. I found the payback cost/time of 3 volatile gypths unclear (or missing?).
Like I say either I am slow on the uptake (quite possible|) or you are misleading folks.
Hello friend! I think we just communicate and look at things differently. differently, and I'm just a human, as are you, so I definitely am not immune to making oversights in math or communication. let me try to clear some things up, definitely don't want you to feel like I've misled you or anyone else cause that's certainly not what I spent 15+ hours trying to do with this video!
To start with a clear one, I definitely could have explained clearer, but we can see at 10:20 in the video we're earning 82,125-129,575 in 365 days. Trophy shipments are 250, so thats 328 to 518 Trophy shipments in a year. If we multiply that by 1.5870 (1G, 58S, 70C) or 1.8293 (1G, 82S, 93C) , we get 520.536 to 947.5774 (I did some rounding up in my final math). To your point, your comment from two hours ago why the range is different despite the prices not being correct -That's because my final range I show ALSO accounts for the volatile magic variation, not only the price variation. Because there's 2 variables working together. So the lowest value, the 520.536 is minimum volatile magic and minimum average drop, and the highest value is the maximum volatile magic and maximum drop, because that's the full range of variability. I hope that clears that up.
As far as the Krait Obelisk node, you are correct. The krait node does nothing that other hero points don't do. at 1:33 I say that it does nothing on its own, other than creating a hero point in your home instance. To me I felt that was clear enough that it's just a convenience thing, though I do see how I could have been clearer on it.
I put zero value on the laurels needed for buying Quartz Crystal/Krait node, because they're available entirely free with some effort since Festival of the Four Winds. And even if you did buy them, I don't look at laurels as gold, they're a byproduct of playing that can be turned into gold or other items, so I wouldn't gold cost them out. The reason for magic not being costed out is that I've always looked at currencies aside from gold as opportunity cost, not the gold value of that currency, so it never crossed my mind to really even factor them in. While gold you typically have to do some sort of selling or converting to make a reasonable amount, you just get things like Laurels or Magic for playing the game. To put it in a more direct example - To me the griffon mount costs 250 gold, because I spend 250 gold to get the things to unlock it. To me the skyscale has unavoidable costs of (on a quick google search here, it's been a while) 41 Gold mandatory. But it also costs 250 of each LWS4 currency. I've never even looked at the skyscale as costing the gold value of all those currencies plus the gold. it's just not how I see the game. I can understand that you may see it that way, and I can definitely see I could have been a bit clearer in saying "I am not calculating that cost here".
I did not give a final range of how long to pay back volatile tools as I looked at it and realized there are too many variables for me to give any meaningful cost to repayment. You'd have to look at gem cost, gold cost, whether the tools were on sale, what the sale prices of the tools could be, how many nodes are harvested per day, etc. I simply gave the sample of how much you'd average in a year of only home instance node farming, and the total price of the glyphs if purchased from the TP.
That being said, I do in my final walkthrough of all the profits, lay out exactly what ranges of Unbound/Volatile magic, specifically say what gold values I am using in calculating during each step. Then at 13:17 I specifically give the Gross gold earned from unbound and volatile, and state that they cost 600 Gold, which reinforces that I costed out 50G per unbound, 50G per volatile, and 50 for the eternal ice. I laid out every calculation in text and verbally so even if we disagree on whether I should have used the opportunity cost of magic you need to farm, I definitely don't think anything about my video would be misleading. If I hadn't shown exactly how I did all the math, I would agree its misleading. But not only did I give a 15 minute long video with visual examples of what it all costs, I showed how much it returns you 1 day and a 365 day period, so any of it can be reverse engineered by anybody.
Like I said, I think we just look at the same information differently. There's a lotta people on this planet and we don't all think the same. I thought I did an effective job in communicating all the information clearly, but based on your two comments, I could have done a better job and will keep that in mind for my future videos. Thanks for your time.
@@syzxgamingx Thanks for taking the time for explaining.
While not counting the cost of laurels/magic is one valid way of looking at it (they're a byproduct of playing- is that not true of gold too, so should we discount that? ;)), it is what is known as a opportunity cost. Each living world 4 node costs 50g which you consider, however the 10k magic which is not in your calculations could buy instead 40 trophy shipments, if we multiply that by per profit of 1.5870 (1G, 58S, 70C) or 1.8293 (1G, 82S, 93C) the cost of the magic is 63.5G to 73.2G which is noticeably more than the straight 50G of the 50G 10k magic you consider in your calculations. Similarly laurels are worth on average at present (Light Crafting Bag) 93 s 60 c. So for the 25 laurels required for quartz node that is 23.4G extra cost above the 15G you consider.
Fast farming website also has the ROI data at fast.farming-community.eu/gathering/home-nodes .
Thanks for the video though, it is very good at showing how good home nodes can be.
You do NOT need the krait obelisk shard to upgrade quartz crystals, you can do it for free at hero points in pretty much any map.
Laurels are worth almost 1 gold each, and they also unlock a lot of exclusive skins and other valuable stuff, counting them as 0 value is a bit weird.
I feel like the intention of the video was good, but it's very misleading in some parts.
I appreciate your comment, and this has been brought up multiple times. This video definitely taught me a lesson about more widely considering every single possible variable in how people perceive things differently than I do, and I need to do a better job of accounting for that and also just explaining myself.
The only thing laruels are needed for I also point out are available entirely for free during festival of the four winds (Which was coming up when I made this, and is currently out) or available via an achievement (in case of the Krait Obelisk) which is one reason I didn't even think to count the cost. As far as the Krait obelisk in general, if you notice I never specifically say anywhere that you need it to make the charged quartz crystals. The use-case is that it just makes your daily round faster, but by failing to actually say that as well, I failed people who don't know that already.
I also discussed with someone a while back in the comments that I fundamentally don't view using other currency as "Gold loss" and don't measure opportunity cost like that in my daily play. If I have karma, I'm spending karma. I'm not thinking about the gold I could make from that karma and saying "Well if I buy this minipet I'm spending 27 gold" or anything like that outside of extreme circumstances.
I appreciate your time in watching the video & the thoughtful comment.
crafting legendary armor in soto need 300 charged crystals per class,
I can't find that information anywhere. Are you referring to 300 provisioner tokens needed, which you *can* use charged quartz crystal for? If so, I highly recommend using much cheaper options rather than charged quartz crystal
Where do you take volatile magic? Sorry but you are hard to understand
As far as cashing in for profit? The Rally Provisioner south of the Blood Keep Waypoint, in Grothmar valley is an easy location.
Winterberries can also pay for ascended diving masks
Very true. I really need to remember that underwater gear exists. I have some alt toons I've completely forgotten, and then realize I've got like a level 52 yellow spear and im like eee yikes.
an homestead becomes probitble after what was it again 9k hours
to pay for itself
get volletile magic tools
they poop money > trade for t6
It would be great if you were to put this into text content so that it is easier to follow and track over time.
I will definitely look at doing this in the future, though with my schedule I make no promises lest I disappoint you. When you say text do you mean like a word or excel type doc kinda thing?
time to get my lazy ass to do some fractal , cause gosh im broke after my last legendary T_T
I feel this in my soul
So it’s just going to be a customizable hut instead of letting us change our home instances up? I like living in my home city as a plant 😭
That is, indeed, what it sounds like. Much like Dungeons, home instances in capital cities seem to have been left back in 2012 lol
Yeah kinda sucks, they are updating the guild halls with this new tech, they could do the same with the old home instances, just give the basic options, and leave the advanced stuff for the expansion, give people a "taste" of what they can get with Jantir Wilds.
Why does this video has so many dislikes? 550 likes and 120 dislikes. Did he say something wrong, or is just people mad at him disclosing "money secrets"?
Those 'return dislikes' plugins don't work accurately. At the time of my reply the video has 51 dislikes according to my official analytics, in full transparency. Many people in the comments didn't like my lack of calculating the volatile magic used to purchase the nodes into the profit calculations, as I view any non-gold currency I use in this (and other games) as, not gold, therefore not worth calculating into the gold values of things. It's a difference in opinion in looking at virtual currencies. That's my best guess for where many of the dislikes came from.
@@syzxgamingx huh, that's so weird. Kudos for your reply, very good work on your part, thank you very much!
all those easy to collect EXCEPT the gold part.
If the trophy return is on average 2G 58S to 2G 82S then why is the average return over a set number of days 521G 32s to 948G 12S - why has the ratio of max to min average changed. Even if the 1G cost to buy the trophy is subtracted for 1G 58S to 1G 82S profit then the ratio over your set number of days still does not have the same max to min ratio. EDIT, extra info provided by Syzx (thanks) that ratio is effected on the time data by the extra variability of the volatile magic harvesting by glyph tools.
anette i'm under dotter
0:00 - 0:55 I've never gotten charged crystals from the quarts node , so how does 8 quartz crystals magically turn into 25 each day? busted!
As far as charged quartz crystal, it's a specific to home instance node drop. Can find it here: wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Quartz_Crystal_Formation
I also never said it turns into 25 per day, or even that you get 8 per day. I lay out the exact daily range, mention the chances of both additional drops. I say at 1:00 how exactly you typically make a charged quartz crystal, and that the base value of all 25 crystals you need is 80 gold. at 1:40 I say you need 25 quartz crystals, and lay out the base value of 80 silver once again. Nothing to bust here. I actually heavily under-value the quartz crystal node in my calculations because I never actually added any of that into the profit generation, I just assumed a generation of 1 charged quartz crystal per day made by *purchasing* the quartz crystal needed. So my math in this video is actually intentionally under what it would be, so I didn't overestimate any numbers.
i'd suggest just play the game everyday for 6 months straight, take those mats and gold collected to then craft a legendary ( see which sells the most and are most expensive) then craft legendary and sell it.(of course leveling up crafting profs while you play everyday) and live off that profit for the next couple of years.
being able to flip higher more expensive things allows you to make more money off 1 investment. I made Twilight in my first 6 months sold it and lived off that profit for the next decade! as well as making a 2nd twilight in the next 6 months and owning my first legendary. Plus its way easier to craft legendaries once you have the profit from another sale.
Galaxy brain is doing both because then you have passive profits and active profits :)
plus if yer talking about rare recipes most dont have are you subtracting the cost of the recipes or pretending they are free when u get it from a drop. if most dont have recipe this guide fails for most. simple as that.
There are two recipies. The step by step one for the pearl handcannon is not rare, just need 400 huntsman, and then its either 25k karma or 8 silver. In my profit calculation at 2:13 on screen for that that the base materials cost 2G 96S 47C and add in the 1G 60S quartz crystal cost to make the two charged quarts crystals (80 silver, doubled) and show the sell price of the item that requires two quartz crystals. If you subtract those material prices from the sell price, you get the profit after all costs are considered. (Again assuming you paid for the quartz to make the charged quarts) and then you divide that profit in half, because it takes two crystals, and you get how much each crystal is worth.
At 2:31 I clearly say "If you use buy order pricing for the raw materials, and sell listing price for the output, you can make something like the Commander's Pearl Trident for 10 and a half gold profit." so yes, that is also subtracting the cost of the materials. The recipe is not purchased. I never go into that because there are literally 0 on the trading post, only buy orders. If you did somehow buy one for the current buy order pricing it 1G 66S so it's not even much. It's not really about pretending they're free, it's about the fact that I never said to buy it, I said IF you have the recipe.
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O.o ?
Why does everything have to be about money and maximizing efficiency, man? Don't we have to put up with that shit enough in life?
It's not. The overwhelming majority of my content I make isn't about efficiency or money. It's what you've chosen to engage with.
Leech somebody else's home. No gold needed easy
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that wonderful :"chance" its a gamble and not guaurenteed