Not only that, but it has been unavailable for a couple years now with no word on when it will be available again. Which is sad because I've got a 2002 donor WRX just waiting for these to be available so I can tear into it.
If anybody has any pull with Factory Five/ Dave, please get this back into production,.. the GD wrx's are getting rusty & parted out. This gives the subaru builders (me incl) a place to continue our drivetrains & tuning & collected parts etc.. they rarely come for sale & already built, this keeps the wrx crowd alive at a reasonable price.
I really think they should bring it back with Honda drivetrain options. I’m a Subaru guy myself but I think the platform would be pretty great and easy to do a k-series in it.
@@michaelweare4353I’ve always thought this too. With how lightweight it is I wouldn’t even care if I had a stock k20. Could run at the track so cheaply.
I also am a bug-eye WRX owner ... I would like to request this car come back... And for a stage 2 build on this... Do the hybrid ej257 with ej207 heads... Double head gaskets iag oil pickup tube oil pan oil air separator throw some killer bee parts on it... Bring Mike from Moto IQ... He's like the Bob Ross of mechanical engineering! That would be an awesome awesome stage 2 build for this not that the EcoBoost is not fun but that should be an EJ... It should absolutely 110% be an EJ
All I can say is I hope the new Subaru gearboxes are a lot stronger than the earlier versions. Traditionally the early versions would destroy 2nd gear very soon after any boost increase.
@@rico55pr1 Yeah; you caught the name "Subaru", right? I agree that it MIGHT be different ratios, but the internals are identical from the factory. Worked on them for years. STI is a trim level and software tune. The parts is parts.
If they bring this car back, it should have FA engine compatibility. It’s way more reliable than an EJ and can reach 350 WHP safely without taking the block apart.
You would never see me use the Subaru engine Because I basically have to pull the motor to swap the spark plugs, And the transmission unless it is built by a third party I am not dealing with it because you try to put enough power in it Anything over 500 And those teeth are gonna shear themselves apart
Plenty of room in the engine bay of the 818 to swap Subaru spark plugs. You also don't need, nor could you put down, over 500 hp in the 818. You can't get enough rear tire under it unless you fabricate custom fender flares.
The STI and newer 6 speed transmissions can handle much more power than the older 5 speeds. I would NEVER recommend a Subaru 5 speed for anything beyond stock power. But the STI and newer 6 speeds are quite sturdy. Also even with the issues with the EJ piston designs, I’m still trusting a stock EJ over a ford eco boost for reliability. Of course the flip side is eco boost parts are a lot cheaper and easier to find so maintenance will be a lot cheaper. The FA engines in the newer non sti wrxs are even more reliable up to about 350whp with bolt ons, a fuel pump, and a quality tune. Also I second the previous comment about there being more room in this engine to work on the spark plugs so I don’t see that as a concern.
I've been researching transaxles for mid engine builds, seems like the Audi A4 non quattro trans can take the power. Weird cars, longitudinal engines with transaxles.
818 is no longer in production. WTH .... posting this video when the car isn't even available. F5 needs to fix whatever is going on and start production on this great mid engine platform
I'd love to build one of Factory Five's cars, but here in CA it's a nightmere to get one registered. Main reason I bought a '72 RS/SS Camaro some years back as my now-retirement project. "75 and earlier--no smog rules.
As a Subaru owner since 2003, I would've preferred to see the 2.5 turbo Subaru boxer engine instead of the Ford. Just FYI... on my 2nd Forester, wife had an Outback and now a Forester, one daughter owns a Forester, other owned a Forester in the past.
It's a track purpose car that some states will allow you to register for street driving as a kit car. It's not really meant for daily driving or comfort.
Lmao I’ve had countless daily drivers with non operational heaters/defrosters, let alone A/C. A/C is generally the first thing I disconnect once it starts failing
Oh my god dude drives me so insane.... Listen to people refer to Volkswagens as an MK3 or an MK four.... Like, no that's a mark 2... Like the Lincoln that says MKV on the side of it that actually says Mark 5 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ 🤣
@@kanenstuff It's their best kit besides the '65. I've got a GTM and the body was trash. I'd look at Race Car Replicas if I were going to buy another component car. Way better quality.
Making a k series work in a traditional mount angle is more work than most people know due to a k series originally meant to be transverse mounted. It's doable but you end up buying even more parts vs the Ecoboost being a drop in since Ford uses that engine in rwd setups already.
If you build one of these cars, figure out how to run a motor that is reliable. The Subaru EJ and Ford EcoBoost motors are both junk as far as reliability is concerned. Maybe a Honda k series and transmission would fit? They are WAY more reliable
Kit was designed around the Subaru parts. To fit the ford 2.3 it needs an adapter, no adapter for the Subaru motor. It really doesn't make much sense to fit a ford motor - unless the Subaru donor's motor was dead.
That's what I explained - the kit was born a Subaru, it was designed to work with Subaru parts from the outset. The Ford motor is the deviation from the original design.
The answer is simple the Subaru uses a transaxle for it's AWD setup, that means the transmission has two front shafts coming from the sides and a rear driveshaft to give it the AWD. Right now Ford uses a transverse/fwd style mount for it's AWD so the entire thing is mounted differently. This why no Ford transmission.
Yeah this is Sean Slocum I'm a big fan but I need some help I've got a 2004 Grand Cherokee and a 2000 Grand Cherokee both of them have blown Motors in them one has a really good body the other one doesn't and the heater works in one but not the other I'm just I'm disabled and financially strapped because we live on my income my wife takes care of me need help
I find it odd that this video is being uploaded now. The 818 is not even available to purchase at the moment.
Not only that, but it has been unavailable for a couple years now with no word on when it will be available again. Which is sad because I've got a 2002 donor WRX just waiting for these to be available so I can tear into it.
If anybody has any pull with Factory Five/ Dave, please get this back into production,.. the GD wrx's are getting rusty & parted out. This gives the subaru builders (me incl) a place to continue our drivetrains & tuning & collected parts etc.. they rarely come for sale & already built, this keeps the wrx crowd alive at a reasonable price.
I really think they should bring it back with Honda drivetrain options. I’m a Subaru guy myself but I think the platform would be pretty great and easy to do a k-series in it.
@@michaelweare4353I’ve always thought this too. With how lightweight it is I wouldn’t even care if I had a stock k20. Could run at the track so cheaply.
I also am a bug-eye WRX owner ... I would like to request this car come back... And for a stage 2 build on this... Do the hybrid ej257 with ej207 heads... Double head gaskets iag oil pickup tube oil pan oil air separator throw some killer bee parts on it... Bring Mike from Moto IQ... He's like the Bob Ross of mechanical engineering! That would be an awesome awesome stage 2 build for this not that the EcoBoost is not fun but that should be an EJ... It should absolutely 110% be an EJ
Did you know if there a sign petition to Factory Five to bring this car back?
it's feel like DIY car, happy to see this car
All I can say is I hope the new Subaru gearboxes are a lot stronger than the earlier versions. Traditionally the early versions would destroy 2nd gear very soon after any boost increase.
I had a 2019 Crosstrek. 2nd gear was janky out of the box 🤣
You need a sti 6 speed more robust then the 5 speeds were
@@rico55pr1 Dude; it WAS a 6-speed
Different trans from a sti 🤣 gears ratio and the internals dude
@@rico55pr1 Yeah; you caught the name "Subaru", right? I agree that it MIGHT be different ratios, but the internals are identical from the factory. Worked on them for years. STI is a trim level and software tune. The parts is parts.
If they bring this car back, it should have FA engine compatibility. It’s way more reliable than an EJ and can reach 350 WHP safely without taking the block apart.
You would never see me use the Subaru engine Because I basically have to pull the motor to swap the spark plugs, And the transmission unless it is built by a third party I am not dealing with it because you try to put enough power in it Anything over 500 And those teeth are gonna shear themselves apart
Plenty of room in the engine bay of the 818 to swap Subaru spark plugs. You also don't need, nor could you put down, over 500 hp in the 818. You can't get enough rear tire under it unless you fabricate custom fender flares.
The STI and newer 6 speed transmissions can handle much more power than the older 5 speeds. I would NEVER recommend a Subaru 5 speed for anything beyond stock power. But the STI and newer 6 speeds are quite sturdy. Also even with the issues with the EJ piston designs, I’m still trusting a stock EJ over a ford eco boost for reliability. Of course the flip side is eco boost parts are a lot cheaper and easier to find so maintenance will be a lot cheaper. The FA engines in the newer non sti wrxs are even more reliable up to about 350whp with bolt ons, a fuel pump, and a quality tune. Also I second the previous comment about there being more room in this engine to work on the spark plugs so I don’t see that as a concern.
@@BigDanSubaru03 this car with AWD and 500hp would go crazy
I've been researching transaxles for mid engine builds, seems like the Audi A4 non quattro trans can take the power. Weird cars, longitudinal engines with transaxles.
818 is no longer in production. WTH .... posting this video when the car isn't even available. F5 needs to fix whatever is going on and start production on this great mid engine platform
Pack some spare coolant tubing if you go to the track 😂
My bro...what wheels are those on the black car?!
I'd love to build one of Factory Five's cars, but here in CA it's a nightmere to get one registered. Main reason I bought a '72 RS/SS Camaro some years back as my now-retirement project. "75 and earlier--no smog rules.
I hear you there, my friend. 😢 Have fun with the Camaro. 👍
As a Subaru owner since 2003, I would've preferred to see the 2.5 turbo Subaru boxer engine instead of the Ford. Just FYI... on my 2nd Forester, wife had an Outback and now a Forester, one daughter owns a Forester, other owned a Forester in the past.
They made sidewalks so subaru owners could get home
Just enjoy the video man
Everyone glosses over the transaxle. It is THE thing that makes it possible, so how about some in depth information?
No Ford parts in Timbuktu?
Windshield wipers? Heater? Air con? Defroster? Is this for the street or is it a track-only device?
It's a track purpose car that some states will allow you to register for street driving as a kit car. It's not really meant for daily driving or comfort.
Lmao I’ve had countless daily drivers with non operational heaters/defrosters, let alone A/C. A/C is generally the first thing I disconnect once it starts failing
If you can't figure out how to throw a wiper motor on one of these, please don't build a car to drive on public roads.
Its not an emm kay 4. its an abbreviation for mark 4 as in gen 4. just saying.
Oh my god dude drives me so insane.... Listen to people refer to Volkswagens as an MK3 or an MK four.... Like, no that's a mark 2... Like the Lincoln that says MKV on the side of it that actually says Mark 5 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
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"Subaru has always been known as a performance car."
Dallara Stradale in tubolare
I need a factory five car in my lofe it's just hard to decide what to get.
'33 Hot Rod or Pickup.
@carbonfiber8071 for me it's the 33 as I'm near the beach and it's perfect for cruzn but the pick up looks sweet.
@@kanenstuff It's their best kit besides the '65. I've got a GTM and the body was trash. I'd look at Race Car Replicas if I were going to buy another component car. Way better quality.
@@carbonfiber8071 best I stick with my classic Nissan 180SX or Australian muscle car.
wow easy build
How much $ was spent?
Close to 40k
I would rather run a K series Honda engine.
Making a k series work in a traditional mount angle is more work than most people know due to a k series originally meant to be transverse mounted. It's doable but you end up buying even more parts vs the Ecoboost being a drop in since Ford uses that engine in rwd setups already.
This x was not 8 days ago
If you build one of these cars, figure out how to run a motor that is reliable. The Subaru EJ and Ford EcoBoost motors are both junk as far as reliability is concerned. Maybe a Honda k series and transmission would fit? They are WAY more reliable
This. A K20 would be way more reliable and make more power.
Why not use a ford transmission?
Kit was designed around the Subaru parts. To fit the ford 2.3 it needs an adapter, no adapter for the Subaru motor. It really doesn't make much sense to fit a ford motor - unless the Subaru donor's motor was dead.
@@alexprymack7834 so why not use a Ford transmission with the Ford engine? That's what I was aiming to get across.
That's what I explained - the kit was born a Subaru, it was designed to work with Subaru parts from the outset. The Ford motor is the deviation from the original design.
The answer is simple the Subaru uses a transaxle for it's AWD setup, that means the transmission has two front shafts coming from the sides and a rear driveshaft to give it the AWD. Right now Ford uses a transverse/fwd style mount for it's AWD so the entire thing is mounted differently. This why no Ford transmission.
@@jonf2009 great answer. Thank you.
Yeah this is Sean Slocum I'm a big fan but I need some help I've got a 2004 Grand Cherokee and a 2000 Grand Cherokee both of them have blown Motors in them one has a really good body the other one doesn't and the heater works in one but not the other I'm just I'm disabled and financially strapped because we live on my income my wife takes care of me need help
CAN YU SAY 818 PC OF SHT?
It seems like they went out of their way to ignore the fact you could use a wrx engine in this kit and push the ford ecotrash engine instead.
The 2.5 subie has problems too, cleetus
@ShaunHensley Please, no comparisons to that Floridian idiot with the race track.
Thanks for not making a gay azz Mazda Miata.
$$?
11k to start.