The 7 of Swords ⚔️ Tarot Card ⚔️ - A Different Perspective

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  • @TheMagician86
    @TheMagician86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Before I listen, I want to say that sometimes I see the 7 of swords as someone taking back what was rightfully theirs in the first place!

  • @sfyogagirl7336
    @sfyogagirl7336 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done. Well said. I'm 7 of swords moon in aquarius. I feel like ppl often envy me for being lucky no matter what conditions I'm in. 7 to me is Godly, 7th heaven. Swords is not conflict it's truth and justice. If you have a sword you can cut what you don't want right out

  • @patrycjawiewiorowska6566
    @patrycjawiewiorowska6566 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi! I just wanted to say thank you for sharing your alternative perspective. I work with Lucid Dreams Tarot deck and I kept drawing 7 of swords clarified by positives, like others have shared in the comments (the Empress, Four of Wands, Six of Pentacles) and I couldn't quite understand what it was trying to tell me. In the imagery of Seven of Swords from the deck, the figure is holding two swords in her hand, leaving 5 swords behind her (I found interesting how the depiction is opposite to the examples you have showed. After listening to your perspective, I pulled out the Two and Five of Swords to see how the images relate, and I now see what the card is showing me; I am leaving the conflicts behind and choosing to take the two swords, to make my own decisions and resolving the inner conflicts without giving energy to the outside stress that should have never affected my life and decisions in the first place. Thank you so much for this!

  • @Maz666
    @Maz666 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I love it when people show a completely different view of a card and invite us to take a new and maybe even a deeper look. Thank you so much for this video, that let me think further. 5 of swords wasn't a simple conflict for me all the time: it always showed a projection of own problems apon others and so a creation of a 'bad' situation in the outside. If somebody takes away the 5 swords in the 7 of sword card, 2 of swords is left. My personal conclusion is: If somebody takes away the situation we projet on, we are forced to confront our inner conflict of the 2 of swords. And as very often the person on the 7 of swords looks back, in German, something else comes up. Looking back is also called 'Rück-sicht', which also means 'respect'. So nothing bad happens in the card, just a thoughtful action to help us finding the real issue of the problem inside of ourselves. If the person smiles, well, he has the right to use some humor ;)

  • @Stealthymoon
    @Stealthymoon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Love this. Keep pulling the seven of swords but clarified by positive cards such as ten of cups..:empress...etc. thank you

    • @codytallent6934
      @codytallent6934 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I also keep drawing seven of swords followed by positives... Since I took interest in the cards years ago. Kinda creeps me out at times, but I got used to it. Even decided to make being content and not wanting anything from others to be a life goal but I still keep drawing it. idk.

  • @zhaklinakorreshi5476
    @zhaklinakorreshi5476 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Very interesting view! I keep pulling the 7 of swords and this interpretation resonates more with me. Another meaning that resonates is: dont stop by too much just take what you need and what you can and move on. Like he's just getting those swords and he's looking behind thinking 'God I wish I could grab those other swords too' but he aint got time he must go and do stuff . And swords represent thought, so maybe you have many ideas and all of them are valid but you dont need all of them to get where you wanna get ;) you must leave something behind

    • @deannaf3476
      @deannaf3476 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for sharing that idea of him contemplating what he can carry...how much "load" can he carry. In his case, maybe due to time as you say. ....hmmm... good point! and very helpful!

    • @Purple9721.
      @Purple9721. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wow I love this analogy!

    • @zaryalace7475
      @zaryalace7475 ปีที่แล้ว

      The virtue of detachment. Excellent observation!

  • @KittyKat-vp2ip
    @KittyKat-vp2ip หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've struggled a lot with this card as I draw it a lot so I have been searching different perspectives on it. I really love you're perspective on this! It ties in with the whole continuity of the tarot fool's journey storytelling and allows me to to look at this card with a whole new energy. It also makes sense because the number 7s symbolise self awareness and growth and it's a divine energy number and I couldn't see the link between the other suits of 7 and this one. However now you're take on this card opens up a whole other layer - so thank you for sharing!!

  • @haydinbarnett537
    @haydinbarnett537 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never thought of it that way but that for sure makes sense, being sly to avoid conflict

  • @Clearsignalwellness
    @Clearsignalwellness 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Thanks for this! I try to start out with all the cards being neutral, as I believe there is light and dark in each one. I knew the 7 of swords couldn’t be all bad and there was probably more than meets the eye! I kind of look at him as a Robin Hood type...breaking the rules but for a good cause. :)

  • @Chief.Energy.Officer
    @Chief.Energy.Officer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I pulled this card on myself today and then this video appeared in my feed. thank you for the message 🖤

  • @Kirstin7258
    @Kirstin7258 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks - yes, I wonder why everybody is so negative about this card usually. Even in Waite's Pictorial Key to the Tarot, what he says about the card is 'The design is uncertain in its import, because the significators are at variance with each other." Lovely video, thank you 🙂

  • @joanburga3873
    @joanburga3873 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting twist on the seven of swords. Never thought about a positive meaning,but thank you for the lesson, I can see it!

  • @mariet8715
    @mariet8715 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    well if he takes away 5 swords ( conflict ) that means he leaves behind 2 swords ( confusion ) conflict is made out of two clashing opinions and could create some kind of solution, but he sneaks away with his opinion or hides his intentions and doesn't really cause a solution

  • @nicolescheffler8063
    @nicolescheffler8063 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! It’s refreshing to hear more perspectives about this card, as well as other cards that accompany it.💡

  • @lanternedu33
    @lanternedu33 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you! I couldn’t go along with the classic interpretation, but your perspective does make total sense. Great!

  • @GramaSagefeather
    @GramaSagefeather 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So glad to have this thoughtful interpretation. Sevens are faith💚🙏thank you

  • @v.958
    @v.958 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Since I've already liked your video, i will drop a comment. thank you Raven for your amazing insight. I watch this video every time I draw the Seven of Swords. It's so useful for me to hear your perspective in application to my reading, and understanding my life with fresh eyes. Many blessings to you. 💓

  • @arianamooon
    @arianamooon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh wow. New perspective for sure! Taking the 5 of swords away. How
    Interesting

  • @autumkennedy4133
    @autumkennedy4133 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I absolutely Loveeeeeee This perspective! Absolutely amazing!

  • @deannaf3476
    @deannaf3476 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Raven, this has given me much food for thought!

  • @malabrinetica
    @malabrinetica 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW that is an amazing perspective! Subbed immediately! + your channel is FULL of synchronicities!

  • @jerrah79
    @jerrah79 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent! I often see the deception is in taking knowledge, aka power, from another by lying or withholding knowledge. But that's not always a bad thing. It kept coming up in readings where this person had a hard time communicating with her husband, who had a brain injury and often easily misconstrued and jumped to sinister conclusions about how she said things. So, she was careful with what she shared. So she took away the five. But what she left was the two, that at least subconsciously, she knew would blind him to the truth.

  • @humanityages
    @humanityages 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The best description to me. Thank you so much.

  • @NassyL96
    @NassyL96 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting! Thank you

  • @Meditationinnatureflow
    @Meditationinnatureflow 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting- thank you for sharing ! ⚔️

  • @KouroshPanahi
    @KouroshPanahi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think that the seven of swords in most decks depict what appears to be the enemy encampment in the background. In this context, the swords are there for fighting and these particular swords belong to the enemy. The man depicted is sneaking away. He is running away with five swords although clumsily because he is holding the swords the wrong way up. But, he looks happy that he was able to get away with it. This, is an act of disarmament. THe seven of swords in fact demonstrate the spy who won the battle.

  • @traceyharris2841
    @traceyharris2841 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent! I have been getting this card frequently over the last year and I really appreciated the fresh new perspective!

  • @reneehouston9865
    @reneehouston9865 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow!!! What a wonderful perspective on this card!!!! Thanks so much for sharing this!

  • @elnosworld9893
    @elnosworld9893 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So this might help because I was shuffling my own cards and I’ve been watching tarot card readers for about 15 years and I’ve done some of my own study but nothing ever really stuck I think because I felt like it was a lot of information that was a lot to know when I didn’t feel confident about it so for whatever reason it was like a block but I’m a highly intuitive individual so I was guided to buy tax and I started buying them and storing them and wasn’t touching any of them and then this one cat just started screaming when I was prompted to look for a new deck and I ended up getting it and I really love it it seems to resonate very well with me
    So I went ahead and bought it and I thought OK well is shuffling is not as easy as it looks it was like trying to do something with my left hand when I’m right handed. But I’ve been practicing and I’ve been looking at the cards and even though I don’t know all the symbolism I have some knowledge that’s intuitive Sanchez came up while this card kept jumping out at me and I was thinking about this person who recently communicate with me but for two days between me and her because I had to tell her that she was violating my boundaries and I was making them very clear letting her know that I wasn’t going to tolerate certain behaviors from her and I could see that she almost needs to feed off of this and I look at with sword symbolize so yes mental manipulation and Psuedo-spiritualism in her case and then I look at swords being a tool of clarity or clarification as well so I’m gonna go to post below what my thoughts were as I was reflecting on the card
    So I’m sitting here shuffling my cars and it keeps popping back out but I refuse that energy in my life so I have said I don’t own it and I return it to sender and essentially what it means when I’m looking at it at three minutes and 55 seconds intuitively is that yes I am leaving the camp of disarray with all of my thoughts and ideas as well as my words
    Because there are certain people who are around me that want to be an authority figure to me they want to see their ego with superiority and they like to dictate to me exactly what I should think how I should speak and what I should feel and that person has recently been told that behavior is not welcome furthermore they’ve been put on notice that if they do it again I will cut them out of my life so here we go with swords and I won’t think twice but now that I know and I’ve had clarity which is again swords about this person stationary and their need to try to control other people but can’t control themselves this person is now at Seward length so from here on out there will not be any further communication in regards to any of those matters because if it comes up again or if a point is made again that inferences on that boundary which has been drawn in the sand with my sword that person can expect a cold shoulder which means they would be behind me
    So I am just learning the taro and I am also a psychic my intuition is predominantly taste and holistic matters
    These are the cars that I have pulled first card out was the high priestess second was the empress the third is the knight of swords then comes the world then comes the lovers then comes the queen of swords the two of coin the four of wands the hair fin be night of wands page of wands and the nine of coin to me it looks like a very good reading
    And I decided to go ahead and for one more card and believe it or not it was the 10 of cups
    Now when she reached out to me she wanted me to tell her about the queen of cups because she felt that she resonated strongly with her because she had a vision of a woman pouring from one cup to the other and I explain to her without giving her too much detail because it really is her responsibility to reach out for that information on her own and me not being erudite in Taro energies I can’t tell her what the card means and I shouldn’t it’s not my responsibility
    But I did explain to her that there are several cards in a deck that actually pour from one cup to the next
    So as I’m thinking about her contacting me and acting as if nothing happened when it came to a point which again is swords for me where I had to put her on notice that she was offending me even though I’m not easily offended and I suppose she was offending my soul so I had to let her know that I don’t need her to give me spiritual guidance I have my own spiritual dream team who keeps me informed and anything that you think may not actually apply to me so just because you think and feel a certain way doesn’t mean everyone else has to share that and it’s ironic because she’s very domestic so you mention it she has a friend who is quite narcissistic he’s an avid alcoholic and she keeps company with him for 2 1/2 years and when he offend someone in front of her and her response almost out of pleasure Jesus say I’m not his mother and yet she does take the mother role in his life and tries to do that with me as well also considers yourself without saying it to be a spiritual superior to me and myself which that message came in quite strong and that’s when the line had to be drawn in the sand and usually you would use a stick or you could use your finger either way it represents a sword so with words and thoughts there were boundaries drawn I wonder if that will resonate with you

  • @kxlot79
    @kxlot79 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was a REFRESHING take on the 7 of swords!

  • @SPAZit101
    @SPAZit101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this perspective 🙏

  • @BritishRiver
    @BritishRiver 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A very thoughtful interpretation. I had not been aware of your channel before today but I am certainly interested to hear more from you. I experienced traumatic grief over the loss of my sister. In trying to make peace with that I looked everywhere for answers, including tarot and other resources prohibited by my Southern Baptist upbringing. I kept my studies quiet to avoid conflict and interference. Now I am starting to teach how to move back into happiness after traumatic losses using my research. Perhaps the 7 of swords is reminding me that I may now have to deal with some of that judgment from others.

  • @shanfazelbhoy9491
    @shanfazelbhoy9491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow! So interesting!! Thank you.

  • @sfyogagirl7336
    @sfyogagirl7336 ปีที่แล้ว

    They see me as foolish, but really, I got an idea and I'm running with it. Clicked with you one day that's the aquarians lightning strike idea.

  • @marybroadwell7799
    @marybroadwell7799 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this perspective! Just this morning I thought when I pulled the 7 of swords AGAIN that I wanted to remove it from my deck . Lol of course I wouldn't. But this video makes sense and give me alot to think about. It's been a card that has been coming up for years with me and I'm tired if seeing his sneaky face !

  • @sip2saki
    @sip2saki 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a great take away awesome job. I see it differently now.

  • @starrisareyna4560
    @starrisareyna4560 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This interpretation of the card was immensely helpful! Thank you for the work you do 🙏

  • @grannygothrauncie6125
    @grannygothrauncie6125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much for this. I am always looking for other interpretations and I love this!!!

  • @carriebesko7579
    @carriebesko7579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for this! I always struggle to "dig in" with this card and this really helped. Great insight!

  • @v.958
    @v.958 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im not sure if I've mentioned this before... I love this perspective and i keep coming back to this video time after time. Thank you so much!

  • @steinmartahh
    @steinmartahh ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing these two ideas! Although I’m aware that the general interpretation leans on betrayal, deception, and so on, I personally never got that vibe from the card, but I’m still figuring out what it means, and your insights were really helpful!

    • @RavensArcana
      @RavensArcana  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm glad you found it helpful🙂

  • @valettaleonardo2524
    @valettaleonardo2524 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is gold. Thank you.

  • @xrptonaire
    @xrptonaire 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thats interesting, a healing card?
    Someone brought up yellow sun healing

  • @Vigil333
    @Vigil333 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am just shocked that this showed up on my homepage. Diving in from teacher now. Universe is a funny thing. 🌍🌎🌏🌹

  • @paigehodges
    @paigehodges 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this interpretation!!! What a wonderful perspective. I am facing an accountability/confrontation today and drew the card - and this helps so much! Thank you thank you!

  • @ChicSeraphim
    @ChicSeraphim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful interpretation! Pure magic. Thank you 🙏🏽 💚💚

  • @lakespiritcanada
    @lakespiritcanada 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was great!
    Really appreciated the new insight on this mysterious card. I never could get a understand fully for "reversal" however a dualistic frameworknis spot on!

  • @lisehansen4752
    @lisehansen4752 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes i think its like you say here . It makes sense 👌💯 thank you for sharing 🙏

  • @wyattsikoramusic
    @wyattsikoramusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So this card is what pushed me to purchase Kim Krans' deck. I like your interpretation when it comes to the first three decks, but I cant help but feel a conflict with how you see the character of the fox in this case. Foxes through most manners of symbolism are the epitome of trickery, deceit, cleverness, wit, and manipulation. Its quite literally hiding a single sword and appearing to be sleeping. This would suggest an ambush as the fox is feigning sleep in order to draw something in and displaying the swords behind it as a way of saying I'm sleeping AND defenseless. I would liken this more to the idea that the fox is using its wit to lure some unsuspecting character to underestimate the fox. Perhaps that 6 of swords implied is the hope of the aggressor catching the fox off guard, and the fox solving its problem in an unorthodox yet clever way. That being said, I love the idea of the fox neutralizing situations by removing the swords and the tension combined with your previous 3 decks in the video. I have often talked to both sides of a conflict between friends and offered solutions that both sides were too flustered or frustrated to come about solving directly. I will adopt this as a potential outcome for future readings. Thanks!

  • @NailedbyNikki
    @NailedbyNikki 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this

  • @cecimae8655
    @cecimae8655 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great perspective!

  • @duaasada
    @duaasada 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you ..i'm not worry anymore :D

  • @Ayahuascaznyc
    @Ayahuascaznyc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It made me think, thank you 🙏🏻

  • @sinjaja5836
    @sinjaja5836 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting interpretation, thank you so much! I keep having this card, we will see the outcome ... Not unimportant, as it seems to be related to health for me. No worry, check ups will be done, either way. But thanks for broadening the persepective.

  • @breemds
    @breemds 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful! 🌟

  • @joshuagagnon5178
    @joshuagagnon5178 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is a great perspective!

  • @phil1975
    @phil1975 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The one who has no sword will advocate peace

  • @HillbillyTosh
    @HillbillyTosh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The two swords in the ground mean to me; (1) what have you learned, (2) how do you proceed?

  • @ConsciousEntrepeneur
    @ConsciousEntrepeneur 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In a career reading, in What is your dream job, 7 of Swords Reversed came out and I’m having trouble giving it a definition related to work, particularly on reversed. The knight of cups and the king of cups both came out on reversed in the same reading but since the spread is narrowed down to question, I am considering if take this information in consideration or not. Any advice will be greatly appreciated it… if it comes before I deliver the reading 😂😁

  • @HealingWithAmyHale
    @HealingWithAmyHale 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really love your interpretation. This helped. Thank you.

  • @runr5563
    @runr5563 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Whoa. Hmm. This card comes up every time with a certain person that I trust. Or want to trust. I’ve been looking for truth on this card. There’s someone else that suggested it was a twin flame card.

    • @Lookoverthere123
      @Lookoverthere123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I get this card as well😅.
      Marie T. In the comments mentioned a very good point of view that clicked.

  • @shereinnasef4464
    @shereinnasef4464 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is really good i like it more

  • @mso2703
    @mso2703 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This card makes me think about the children’s book ‘The Gruffalo’

  • @brendaprieto68
    @brendaprieto68 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your perspective Raven!

    • @RavensArcana
      @RavensArcana  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the feedback and the kind words.

  • @nlevy4163
    @nlevy4163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love it, thank you❤

  • @jessicamartin9842
    @jessicamartin9842 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like it!!

  • @mso2703
    @mso2703 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant

  • @erinbarnes428
    @erinbarnes428 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never used to pull this card but recently it’s been flying out like crazy. I don’t feel a negative energy from it so I’m just really confused.

  • @Haircuttle
    @Haircuttle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the insights

    • @RavensArcana
      @RavensArcana  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are welcome. Thank you for viewing!

  • @aliciaramosfitkick2307
    @aliciaramosfitkick2307 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this

  • @ageoflistening
    @ageoflistening 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Took ages for me to work this out because it was very similar to 5. But 2 swords stuck in the ground means we have a choice now.
    I've been looking for the original number meanings and it sits well with me with your meanings but others say meanings that are somewhat different. Would you tell me where I can look for these original meanings? i.e seven you said means faith (or have faith) whereas others say reflection and assessment.

  • @Greenhammock
    @Greenhammock ปีที่แล้ว

    I appreciate you

  • @laventure8576
    @laventure8576 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's so inspiring, thank you !

  • @SickleCellTreatment
    @SickleCellTreatment 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brillant !!

  • @energyreadings
    @energyreadings 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi, great video, may i ask how do you relate the 7 of swords to the sign of virgo and health? thnx

  • @secretsoftarot1694
    @secretsoftarot1694 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if seven of swords with emperor could mean in feelings?

  • @grumpyschnauzer
    @grumpyschnauzer ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmm very interesting… I suppose if we try to put ourselves in the shoes of the people who lived in times of sword fighting, with swords being dualistic maybe this character is a sort of Robinhood… stealing or taking back what originally was not theirs. I dig the channel

    • @RavensArcana
      @RavensArcana  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the comment and checking it out! I like the Robinhood angle.

  • @chandasparklesastrology
    @chandasparklesastrology ปีที่แล้ว

    I like it

  • @miriamquinones3247
    @miriamquinones3247 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow this is interesting

  • @lindsaybucks5069
    @lindsaybucks5069 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome!!

  • @alisaberrak7968
    @alisaberrak7968 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's interesting really

    • @RavensArcana
      @RavensArcana  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for checking out the video

    • @alisaberrak7968
      @alisaberrak7968 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RavensArcana of course!! I'm glad you made it!

  • @aliciaramosfitkick2307
    @aliciaramosfitkick2307 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love that, removing the 5...

  • @jbostian195
    @jbostian195 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why are there so many decks? And what are the significance of the decks? Need some perspective as I follow this channel

    • @RavensArcana
      @RavensArcana  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There are thousands of different decks as artistry continues to be a large part of tarot. There are traditional decks (or adaptations) that attempt to capture the original correspondences of the tarot with psychology, alchemy, astrology, etc. Along the way - colors, numerology, figure placement (rearrangement) and symbolism have been added and altered to incorporate deeper or dualistic meanings.

  • @IsadoraSecol
    @IsadoraSecol 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    woooow!!!!

  • @brianpatterson7125
    @brianpatterson7125 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dig the video !

  • @nathalialedesma929
    @nathalialedesma929 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love ittttt❤️🙏

  • @DJSTOEK
    @DJSTOEK ปีที่แล้ว +1

    😃😷😷

  • @delicatelips
    @delicatelips 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This card seposed to be a card of cutting of different people in youre life. It dont have to be a card of cheating

  • @LoveEmbodiment
    @LoveEmbodiment 2 ปีที่แล้ว