Jim Cornette Reviews CM Punk vs. Wardlow on AEW Dynamite
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- From Episode 414 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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Wardlow's definitely getting that 2005 Batista-HHH angle going on. Except Wardlow hasnt said anything yet.
and unlike Batista, Wardlow isn't in his late 30s. Meaning he'll have a longer career
Spot on comparison , and hell this mirrored angle ain’t been done for over ten years so might Aswell do a similar angle if it works ! Wardlow is great
And MJF hasn’t won anything yet
Wardlow gotta do the thumbs down to MJF lmao
Batista also shouldn’t have talked.
Wardlow is everything that Brian Cage wished he would be!
Where is Brian Cage?
And he's under your bed right now, RUN!!!
Why we acting like Brian Cage is trash
Because he sucks in the ring! 🤷🏻♂️
Both have been booked poorly
The people in the arena popped HARD when Wardlow started to turn on MJF before Spears calmed him down, and they were chanting his name again on Rampage. AEW got something with Wardlow, I hope they don't mess things up.
He kind of reminds me of Shield era Roman Reigns, I'm not an AEW guy but that fucking guy is MONEY
@@somgandachonco7278 AEW has so many home grown talents doing well. Good to see them doing so well
@@PIP-zf9yb yeah man, even though I'm a WWE guy. I like good wrestling, so whenever I see good shit in AEW I'll give it props. Sammy Guevara is also dope!
Of course they will
@@somgandachonco7278 I like both but definitely prefer AEW forsure raw has been bad for like a year now in my opinion but I do DVR and watch it still but getting harder and harder
I noticed someone on social media do a side by side comparison of this match and Bret Hart vs Diesel to show the same concept of Diesel dominating the match and Bret gets a surprise roll up and 1-2-3. I loved the paid homage to old school wrestling.
It’s not paying homage, he’s copied Bret hart his whole time in AEW, that’s being unoriginal
@@Maxx_d13 What's old becomes new again. No idea's truly original and given how far from grace pro wrestling has gone, I'll encourage plagiarizing the greats if done well.
Promo Joe did one and it's great th-cam.com/video/yuHeXRdP1R4/w-d-xo.html
@@Maxx_d13 And MJF is not original in any way.
@@tojs2394 never said he was??
Punk took 8 powerbombs and won?! Between Punk, Jungle Boy, and Sammy Guevara I’m surprised that Nick Fury hasn’t shown up to recruit them to be the new Avengers, because they’re clearly superhuman. They sell as much as a closed K-Mart.
Funny and agreed.
I'd agree with you but the way they had Punk beat him wasn't crazy unrealistic - First of all, they showed Wardlow had Punk beat and was about to get the 3 count until MJF told him to stop the pin at 2 and keep powerbombing Punk - and it's not like Punk kipped up and hit him with a GTS for the win, he got a lucky roll up while Wardlow was being distracted by MJF again. It actually made sense and did what it needed to for Wardlow - dominating Punk all match did more for him than all the weeks of beating local jobber talent combined. When he turns on MJF he has potential to be a star or at least propel himself to the ME scene.
@@JakeK3339 Bro as of right now Wardlow is a mid card guy I agree he has ME potential but Punk is one of your top stars and he just got dominated by a mid card guy it makes Punk look weak and Wardlow look stupid for not getting the biggest win of his career because that’s the biggest match of his career and he got beat by roll up this match should of been 60% Wardlow and 40% Punk that way Punk don’t look weak and you keep Wardlow strong and get the point across
You forgot Matt Jackson...
Good analogy. I'm using that.
Wardlow had that 'it' factor
I hope AEW handle his push right!
He definitely do if he has charisma and mic skills he can definitely get over big bud idk AEW booking on big men isn’t good
He is Batista when he broke out from Evolution. Wardlow is a future champ
AEW doesn't like big men. If they aren't 100 pound men they don't get pushed.
@@Hush_Money2 archer is gonna face hangman for the belt already wym
Archer will lose thou
If AEW actually peppered in DQs every once and a while for angles then you could’ve had MJF force Wardlow to forfeit his own victory to beat the absolute shit out of Punk and no psychology would have been lost.
Exactly the Powerbomb through the table should have ended the match but since they’ve gotta destroy 5 tables per show it can’t be.
Yeah I agree with this. Somebody needs to tell Khan that doing a DQ every once in awhile isn't the end of the world
@@JakeK3339 He listens to the hardcore fanbase that hates WWE and hates DQ because of WWE but don’t understand it has its uses You could of had MJF ordering Wardlow to hurt Punk more and he just walks out the ring or a good DQ finish where Wardlow takes things overboard
Just DQ him for the table spot. That used to be a DQ.
There were TWO options they could've went with that would've been better.
1. MJF is pissed that Punk looks like he's going to beat the count, so he grabs a steel chair and hits Punk with it a few times.
2. After the table spot, MJF yells at Wardlow to Powerbomb him again, but on the concrete. Wardlow throws Punk into the ring instead (the count is already at 8), but MJF gets in Wardlows face and yells at him, causing Wardlow to get counted out.
The second one makes complete sense
It should have been a DQ when Punk went thru the table. Thats actually what I was expecting because Wardlow refused to do it the first time. Since when was it not a DQ to use furniture?
I know in title matches in WWE JR would say stuff like "The ref is giving some leeway because this is a title match" but in a normal TV match, it should always be a DQ, unless the ref doesnt see it.
You should be booking that clusterfuck of a promotion
@@bipolarminddroppings Thank you! I wanted the same finish. You could have accomplished all the same tension between Wardlow and MJF with a MJF caused DQ instead of a garbage roll-up.
To add to that, if they cared about the rules they could frame this is such a way that it would make perfect sense for all involved:
-MJF tells Wardlow to powerbomb him on the concrete/through a table, whatever. The ref warns Wardlow he'll be disqualified if he does that. Wardlow decides--reasonably, since he's clearly winning the match--to throw him in the ring and pin him first. CM Punk turns the tables and wins. MJF blows a gasket at Wardlow for disobeying him (and losing, too!).
Rules make this kind of thing possible, but for whatever reason, AEW (and most modern wresting, let's be honest) don't seem to understand their value at all...
Wardlow is gonna print money one day. I appreciate him saying that he plans to end his career with AEW if the future allows em to. Loyal dude. Gave credit to FTR, spears, Jerry Lynn and billy Gunn as being huge influences/mentors and but especially Cody
Loyal dudes get screwed in the end wardlow should take a page from cm punk do whatever he wants to do. Loyalty only turns to regret later
Wardlow won’t draw that much, come on
Wardlow can be the biggest star of this generation if done right. There is a reason wwe wants him. Everyone sees it. Let's just hope they don't fuck him up.
He's going to be Big Money when he leaves AEW for WWE. AEW cant create Stars, at least not ones that generate money.
@@rleonardgreen78 Cause that went well for every single other guy that's came in from another promotion in the last 10 years
My only issue was that they should have ended it by DQ at the powerbomb thru the table. MJF should have ordered him to do it, Wardlow refuses cause of his wim streak, MJF insists, Wardlow does it, DQ.
MJF says "good job" Wardlow knocks his hand away, then we get the same ending to the whole thing we got.
Wardlow loses without getting pinned, the ref doesnt get buried by watching a guy go thru a table and it not be a DQ...
Im shocked that Corny didnt pitch that finish himself or mention that there should have been a DQ.
Think punk wouldve ever accepted to do that if he wasnt saving face with a clean win?
They aren't gonna DQ a Punk match, he's still one of the main draws
No DQs for a table spot. Matches don't end in dq when someone goes thru the announce table
When Jim brought up the DiBiase piledrivers controversy I remember when Matt Jackson took a Canadian destroyer of a ladder through a table and 30 seconds later he was on his feet, And they could've cited that as the reason why the Bucks lost the ladder match because then it left Nick Jackson in a handicap situation also with an ambulance taking Matt to the hospital, but unfortunately it was a transitional spot...
Wardlow having a weak girly man power bomb has been established. Can’t put away a 40 year old dude.
Such a bad finish and there is no polishing this turd.
I felt like this did everything it needed to do in one pretty clean go. Wardlow got to go powerbomb mode on Punk, MJF got to add another future ass kicking to the list for sure, Punk gets to save his streak for the MJF feud and beyond if he wins that while still looking like he got his ass beat by Wardlow, and Shawn Spears... still exists still I suppose. Punk beating the 10 count and winning after getting sent to absolute powerbomb hell was excessive unless you figure Wardlow phoned in the last few powerbombs on purpose because he's sick of MJF's bullshit, but that's to the point of overthinking this.
The excessive powerbombs started to wear Wardlow out, lifting dead weight for the last few. He coulda won after the 5th(?) but since MJF insisted he was just tired enough to eventually fall for the roll up. Head-canon for me at least lol
>unless you figure Wardlow phoned in the last few powerbombs on purpose
LMAO that's a reach.
If my future kid doesn’t grow up to look like Wardlow I’ll disown him
8 powerbombs was about 4 too many, even if Punk hadn't of gotten the small package. Otherwise it protected both guys and Wardlow got a huge pop when he grabbed MJF's hand.
Especially one through a table smh
8 powerbombs from Wardlow should definitely be a stretcher job. but in Punk's defense. he sees the shit the friends of the Bucks no sell. he doesn't want to make himself look bad because they pop up from worse stuff.
It made wardlow look weak as hell
4 is the same that he do in every match, so the point here was that mjf want him to do more than usual, so yes it was too much but that was the story they wanted just don't do the one on the table and for me was perfect
@Andrea Rebek so the story sovfar is cm punk struggles with job guys. Takes 8 finishers and 1 of them through a table and he is still able to roll up wardlow? Thats bad execution. It made cm punk into super cena.
Over the last few weeks in Wardlow matches he’s been doing multiple powerbombs but Spears has been telling him to stop showing off and pin the guy. Well during this match he was gonna do that but MJF kept telling him to keep doing it which allowed Punk to capitalize while Wardlow and MJF were disagreeing.
Thanks for the recap as we hear about the recap!
I love Wardlow and I think he is going to be a future star, but that ending was garbage. Wardlow should have been DQ’d after the table spot. This would have given Punk the win without Wardlow losing any kind of credibility. If anything, it would make him a bigger monster. Nope. Roll up. 123. I think Macaulay Culkin would have booked a better ending.
Agree, that plus mjf ordering him to lose the match would have added to the upcoming turn.
I thought for sure they would go with the much more obvious booking: MJF has Spear interfere via hitting Wardlow with a chair. This gets Punk disqualified, making him lose his match the same way that Punk had done to MJF. Warlow still gets just as pissed off.
They are doing the "CM Punk is a veteran, so he knew exactly when to strike, even though he was outmatched.
I think it was the right descision.
@@LetsPlayCrazy I agree
@@LetsPlayCrazy Bullshit . Cm punk's scrawny ass couldn't hold a guy that strong in a small package even if he hadn't been powerbombed 9 times.
If Wardlow had done a couple of powerbombs, after beating the everliving shit out of Punk and then when going for a third, final, decisive powerbomb Punk somehow pins him. I could live with that, you haven't devalued Wardlow's finisher but this went too far.
I really like Wardlow, he's a definite star in the making. Shawn Spears though, oh my god that man needs to absolutely f**k off ASAP.
I was waiting on this... Nash never did 7 power bombs, Sid or Adam Bomb, it was terrible psychology and week after week it's getting tiresome because ppl kick out of power bombs now and after 7 a roll up where do you go from there 🙄
Totally agree it's absolutely terrible psychology. They'll be shooting or beheading people to win soon. They've moved away from making it semi believable a long time ago.
So the power bomb is a basic move now? 😃 😀 😄
@@1983jcheat sadly almost every finisher is a basic move now. The DDT, Superkick, Piledriver . I think the only thing still protected is the RKO.
@@MrJjburgess11 So true. Moves don't mean much anymore.
I loved everything Punk has done until now, it was way too many powerbombs, it felt like watching 2006 John Cena
Roses are red, violets are blue, Cena/Punk could fall of a building and still kick out at two
People have told me I was wrong, but I stand by what I’ve been saying, this match buried all three guys. MJF is supposed to be the smartest heel in the company, he has lost because of Punk and wants to do the same to Punk. So instead of letting Wardlow pin him and give him a loss he has Wardlow dish out more punishment. That’s stupid when if this was real Punk would have lost and THEN they beat the crap out of Punk. Wardlow has just dominated the top face in the promotion, 8 powerbombs and a 9th through a table to your opponent, yet he’s able to roll you up and HOLD YOU, so Wardlow is weak enough to lose to a guy barely alive. CM Punk, your top babyface basically just jobbed to a 2nd tier heel, basically saying HE IS NOT MAIN EVENT OR WORLD TITLE MATERIAL. This was stupid idiotic booking.
Exactly what I been saying This match made Punk look weak the most he’s supposed to be a top guy one of your biggest stars but gets dominated by a mid card Heel 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ how do that make sense makes Wardlow look stupid for not getting the biggest win of his career in the biggest match of his career 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ all around this match had bad inring Psychology and stupid booking
Yup, I hated it and it took all the steam out of the angle for me. Now eventually if MJF pins Punk it won't even feel as big because Wardlow just destroyed him with ease. Wardlow and MJF come out looking dumb and Punk comes out looking like a joke.
I agree with Brian completely about the table spots; the Luchasaurus/Rey spot and Dustin/Sammy/Canadian Destroyer spots were both ridiculous and the spot in this match would have meant more without them happening.
Agree completely and I think they're right about tables in general in AEW if every show has a table spot in it I think it gets boring for people to look at and takes away the impact of it happening
Well Punk should have pulled a Roman Reigns and said no one else is doing a table spot tonight.
At least there keeping it to one table spot a show now 😂😂😂
@@tomascasterwell2279 I think that was the only one wasn't it?
Well to be fair, back in the days there was always a table spot on Raw. Spanish announce table
I agree with Corny on the eight frickin' powerbombs.
Can we even call them finishing moves if they don't actually FINISH anybody? What drama can you build in a match if there's no chance of it being over imminently?
If you kill a guy's finisher, then he's just a guy with nothing special about him.
The match was good up until the table spot but I’ll give punk credit he put wardlow over despite winning the match it was storytelling
CM Punk is a great storyteller..
A bit too overbooked for my liking, but both Wardlow and Punk did a great job selling this match, the more I see Wardlow, the more I like him and getting the rub from CM Punk is only helping both him and MJF.
How is hitting your finisher 8 times on a guy and still loosing a rub. Wardlow looks weak as hell coming out of this
@@davidburke7777 Idk, maybe the fact that he's working with the most popular wrestler of the last decade plus, by a MARGIN is kind of a big fucking deal, so what if he lost? he did by a lucky roll-up and it was after he was distracted, you can argue that the match was dragged out for way too long and I'd agree, but it's fucking CM Punk he lost to and Wardlow's a rookie.
@@davidburke7777 He's an inexperienced "big man" character, getting beaten by a wiry veteran using a WRESTLING move. Are people just tuning into "pro wrestling" for the first time this past week, and getting pissed? Is this real life?
Punk was laid out for the ending, and LIMPED backstage during the commercial. See for yourself: th-cam.com/video/6eLrJ6V_v-c/w-d-xo.html
Meanwhile, Wardlow had enough energy to argue with his associates and walk out on his own.
Chrissakes, if people don't know what "logic" means, they need to stay out of the conversation.
SPEAK ENGLISH. IT WAS FAKE GARBAGE. 8 POWERBOMBS , A TABLE , A SMALL PACKAGE. Aew is pure garbage
@@RedShadowOfSaturn So by Logic Wardlow is a mid carder right 🤔 and Punk is one of the biggest stars in your company but got dominated the entire match by a mid carder.Using Logic Punk got little to no offense in that match and was powerbomb 8 times why also being powerbomb threw a table Wardlow who’s been fresh and dominated the entire match took no offense at all couldn’t kick out of that rollup thats logically stupid I like the match tried to tell a story and had a purpose but it made Punk look weak and Wardlow look stupid
MJF wants to be the first one to defeat Punk and that's why he interfered so much in the match. He wanted Punk hurt, but he didn't want Wardlow to win.
I'm not sure about that, there was no way that Punk would make it back in before the count and if he really didn't want wardlow to win he would tried to stop the count out. MJF just really wants Punk injured and out of commission.
Wardlow lost only because he was feeling guilty not because MJF was interfering. Wardlow could have easily powerbombed put he hesitated because he felt bad for Punk
@@aaronrumph3291 You're exactly right. AEW fans are so confused and used to weird bullshit they can't see what's right in front of their eyes. It's obvious MJF wanted Wardlow to win. Which is why he got so angry at the end. Now CM Punk is one step closer to the title and one step in front of him. MJF wanted Punk hurt AND Wardlow to win. You're right
@@SplitGoose yeah now with Punk having a when against Wardlow what can MJF do to get Punk to lose: he would have to pull a 5 stages of Jericho moment and bring in a big rival of Punk like Danielson or Joe. Would MJF be able to get Danielson to work with him to take down Punk or be able to bring the free agent Samoa Joe to AEW for a match against Punk
I love Wardlow,but to me his powerbombs are missing that teenie bit of extra oomph to make them look truly devastating
You mean like The Undertaker's Last Ride? That move was just disrespectful.
If he didn't do multiple every time I would agree with u buy taking that many I think he eases up alittle
I feel like this had all the right pieces to be a good segment. And while they may have succeeded in the long run, they also did far too much IMO. The powerbomb through the table seemed unnecessary but if you absolutely had to do it, do it after 2 or 3 powerbombs, not after he already taken 8 of them. Jim is absolutely right, there is no excuse for ANYONE to beat the count after suffering all that punishment (even with Aubrey's slowest count ever). It also felt weird after all of that for Wardlow to be able to go down to a simple small package; realistically Punk shouldn't have been able to do anything at that point. Or they could have cut out the table spot all together and just kept it all in the ring and still got the same finish, and it wouldn't have felt as excessive. I'm sure the intentions were good for this segment but it was a bit much IMO.
I understand why they went for this, but it was also an intentional re run of Diesel vs Bret Hart at Survivor Series 95
Yup
I understand they are trying to set up MJF and Wardlow in the future but this match was horribly booked. CM Punk took 8 Power-bombs, including one on the Table, then manages to come back from the Slowest 10 count in wrestling history. All so he could beat Wardlow with a Roll-up because Tiny Khan doesn't want to do a DQ finish. That match killed the momentum Wardlow had with an EVP-style booking. Then after all this they pretty much make Wardlow seem less important than Shawn Spears... AEW is showing more and more it's just all the worse parts of late WCW/ECW and TNA all rolled up in on. It also deserved the massive ratings plummet it got this week from Dynamite and Rampage.
i dont know i think if wardlow ends up having a feud with like shawn spears after this or something he could end up coming off as a real badass.
CM Punk and Wardlow just proved Bret Hart's point. Bret Hart's always right BTW 😂 He said in the build up to Undertaker vs Deisel, Vince wanted him to take Deisel's finish before Taker interfered in Deisel vs. Bret's cage match, and Bret refused because it would be distracting and make him look weak. Now say he was wrong, Kevin Nash? 😂
How did you get that from watching this? Nash wasn’t going to hit him with 8 power bombs. It was just 1. Two completely different situations.
@@210Dinero adjust for inflation 😂
@@210Dinero because that one would appear to beat bret before the interruption from taker
Wardlow. What a beast though. Fair play to punk too. Took some beating 👏
Take 100 powerbombs from a guy who is supposed to be a monster, and then a surprise roll-up. This match irritated the shit outta me.
I gotta agree with Jim on this one, after this many powerbombs, PLUS one on the table, Punk shouldn't have been able to beat the count. However, by the same token, Wardlow looked strong in this match, despite losing. Cause when he was pinning Punk, they had you believe that it would've been a 3 count, if it weren't for MJF🤔
I agree but I think with CM Punk, you can believe cause he is a star, he is a tough son of a gun irl and in kayfabe. It’s not like after he got the roll up he started jumping up and down. This dude looked he was in pain after the roll up. The 7 bombs could have been like 4-5 but this match was aight. It passes the test for me.
@@peytonpaulpro Yeah...I guess, aside from that, everything else was good🤔
@@wesmyone9562 I know Jim said he didn’t like this dynamite but I thought it was one of the best and there improving on little things. Dante Martin was announced at 205 pounds, luchasauras talks like a beast and malakai did the thing with his fingers when he got to the third the lights went out so you could get the idea that someone working for him switched the lights off. Maybe I’m thinking too much into it. Overall, this was a good match.
@@peytonpaulpro Yeah...It's not too shabby🤔
As long as Punk shows the next week or whenever bandaged up I'm good
I think this was Punk's first miss in his AEW run so far. Overcooked the powerbombs.
With all its flaws it did a good job of building the destruction of the Pinnacle and Punk vs MJF
Punk took 8 Powerbombs, 1 through a Table, beats the 10 Count and won with a Rollup. Total shit Booking.
This happened with Bret Hart vs. Diesel
@@crazyangst12 Bret didn't take 8 of them
Not in that order lol. He got back in the ring way before 8 powerbombs Get it straight
Is it really shit booking when it furthers two storylines? Even JC said this at the beginning of this segment. The match made sense.
Jim’s been sucking off Punk since he got there, you won’t be getting his genuine thoughts on that guy just a bunch of excuses like he did with Cody
The small package at the end didn’t do it for me. Sure, he could be caught off guard trying to do the last power bomb- but he’d taken loads of them. How would he have remotely enough energy to get him down into the pin and then hold him there? Wardlow hadn’t broken a sweat and had legs like tree trunks. A destroyed punk couldn’t keep him tied up. A great idea, but not the move to end it on.
I agree the ending should’ve been MJF getting Wardlow disqualified.
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Jim, CM Punk has been such a let down TBH. I know you want to be a mark for him but man what a let down.
Edge and Brock Lesnar have had better returns than CM Punk. I'm not feeling it
Punk put Wardlow over, even with winning by roll-up. He sold tf out of Wardlow’s size and power.
It was a match I didn’t even catch myself suspending disbelief for because I was interested and it looked like Punk might lose.
Good work here.
No he didn’t. He took 8 power bombs including through a table and he still got up and won. That isn’t respecting the power at all.
@@Heat3YT2 To quote the immortal prophet, Jeffrey Lebowski:
Yeah, well, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.
@@WorldsOkayestSorcerer But what he saying is Facts the whole booking of the match is stupid Punk is a top guy got dominated the entire match by a mid carder then Wardlow not winning the biggest match of his career getting beat by rollup should of been DQ that way both guys stay strong why should I care about Punk-MJF when Wardlow just kick his ass
With that logic, he put Mike Jackson over in UFC.
@@Ticketman99 Except UFC is a real fight that doesn’t involve two guys working cooperatively to not injure the other while selling a narrative. It’s the literal opposite as it’s two guys trying to injure each other to the point of one of them not being able to continue the match. No story. No narrative. No cooperation.
So, that isn’t following the same logic.
Punk has said - in a nutshell- that his aim is to showcase the younger guys. So, yeah, he was putting Wardlow over as a beast and did a heck of job doing it.
Or so that’s my opinion, anyway. Obviously some people disagree. 🤷🏻♂️
Surprised by this review! Jim was nowhere near as scathing of this match as wrestling TH-camr BC Amplified, who screamed throughout his show about how unbelievable it was, it made Wardlow look weak etc. etc. - and Jim is the biggest AEW critic I know outside of the WWE shills!
Punk shares Jim's politics. That's why he will never go in on him.
Shouldn't getting put through a table get you a DQ for wardlow makes him still looks like a monster punk keeps his winning streak and wardlow doesn't look stupid with a roll up
The amount of powerbombs seemed more over the top because of the table spot, but that comes down to Tony not knowing when enough is enough. It also does not help that they do things that should warrant disqualifications in almost every match now so when something that should be out of bounds happens it is just normal.
Agree completely I mean why not do the roll up then afterwards Wardlow does the table spot out of frustration from having a fight with MJF
Boooo 🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅 they love everything boring Punk is involved in 🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅
Jim must be the only CM Punk fan left....
"it wasn't very long".....THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!!! HAHAHA!
Punk was pulverized to powder. Clean. Even though Punk won, it felt like Wardlow won.
When are ppl going to start talking about how Wardlow is regressing as a wrestler. Or they've dumbed down his moveset to just closelines and powerbombs.
Ps Powerhouse Hobbs actually looks better but as Chris rock once said black man has to fly whereas all the white man has to do is walk.
Brian Cage and Hobbs be like, hey Wardlow took mer jerb!
First Superkicks now Powerbombs...good lord
I think punk hurt wardlow even with the distraction from mjf. He took way too many finishes and went through a table. Wardlowv was fresh still. Should've been after the first or second or maybe even the third powerbomb not after 7 or 8
EXACTLY!!!!!!
THANK U. Blows my mind that ppl dont notice how bad this was
@@mmabuff101 I know I'm surprised too
I remember the Ted Dibiasi spot. I may have been 11 or 12 years old. I remember thinking "That's it, he's dead.".
When I saw Punk eating all those powerbombs, I didn't think Gordy vs DiBiase. I was thinking Sunka vs Ray Stevens when he got multiple piledrivers on the floor. Any of you savants remember which angle was first??
Gordy- Dibiase I believe was in 81 and Snuka- Stevens was definitely 82 when Snuka was so Over he turned Face
I GOTTA SNEEZE lol
It was a great match.
I found out afterwards that they ripped spots directly from Bret Hart vs Diesel matches years ago, which dampened it a little for me.
Yeah. This one had me conflicted. I’m ok with Punk getting smashed but Wardlow undersold some of the moves. I liked the angle between Wardlow and MJF. Hated the finish though. Punk was destroyed and his small package wrap for a pin was lazy booking shit. Totally unbelievable and dumb.
Should have just gone with a MJF or Spears run-in and DQ. Killed any momentum for MJF v Punk.
Well if the refs would actually enforce the rules in most matches, the power Bomb through the table could have been a DQ
@@CockyBalboa table spots are not dqs if he actually hit him with the table then yeah its DQ
I come her for cornys mussolini
Jim cornette is right on a lot here but even with all the powerbombs, it’s CM Punk, the top star of the company! He should be able to take a huge HUGE beating and still be able to quick roll up to win while Wardlow was distracted. Plus he had like 2 min to rest after he took the Bomb through table to get his bearings straight. This match was different than a lot of matches nowadays so I think that’s why I liked it more.
It just makes Wardlow look like absolute shit.
@@mr.d00m37 he annihilated CM Punk! The top star in the company like a little bitch. If it wasn’t for MJF. Wardlow would have won in 3 min. It’s just MJF wouldn’t let him pin him
@@peytonpaulpro im talking about the roll up finish.
Punk has fought larger stronger foes in his wrestling career, the likes of Big Daddy V, JBL, Batista, Mark Henry, Kane, Undertaker, The Rock, Brock Lesnar. He has a ton of veteran experience to deal with Monsters like Wardlow.
So basically Cm Punk become Super Cena.
Powerbomb city
Perfect ending to this match was when Punk was getting in at 9, MJF clotheslines him because he's so ticked Punk won't stay down. But whoops, that gets Wardlow DQ'd. That keeps Wardlow mad at MJF but DOES NOT get Wardlow pinned
I like that scenario better
Wardlow keeps looking better and better each week. The crowd wants to cheer this guy and they love the powerbomb gimmick. The turn on MJF is gonna be big and he could really be a legit top guy for AEW soon.
Alot of AEW fanboys miss the point of this segment, I heard comments like "boring" because its not what they're used to.. the small guys doing chereographed gymnastics and no selling everything and all they want are 5 star matches..
@@TheMrAlgoh I don’t think the match was boring or bad. It’s what it should’ve been, didn’t need a table spot though a powerbomb on the floor would’ve probably been fine. Other than that, it’s telling not one but two stories. Wrestling fans complain too damn much.
I liked every match and segments of punk till now but this one nah , it was a bad booking
They could have done it without risking/destroying ur no1 baby face i guess,
They really made a mockery out of powerbomb like how they always does with Superkick
Wardlow power strength
8 is enough to kill a guy, so it's far too overdone. No more than 2 and then the third is the roll-up.
Wardlow is giving me old school Batista vibes. Like Batista when he was first in evolution. I get that energy from him.
Cornette seriously need to lay down the boomer mentality and realize the results on Dark/Elevation actually matters, and is part of the show.
Love the art work
Punk and MJF have still not put hands on each other to my knowledge. That's a wonderful touch and so rare. They're letting it breathe and it's gonna make it all the more worthwhile when they do have a match. I love this feud and I'm sure Punk has had a lot to do with planning it out....he's a smart dude.
Punk hits "the most devastating move in aaaalllll of sports entertainment" the surprise roll up.
After the third power bomb they had me. I didn't think they would have punk take that many.
I bet somehow wardlow will end up turn on mjf & team up with punk. maybe. not that I'd do it that way but could see it happening
Looks like they are prepping for MJF vs. Punk with Wardlow causing MJF the victory, setting up Wardlow vs. MJF after that.
The ending of this match was stupid...just over-exposed the business. Others here have suggested better endings.
I remembered that episode of Georgia Championship Wrestling and all of those piledrivers that Ted Dibiase took, I was like whoa!!!!
MJF didn't want Wardlow to beat Punk in the ring because MJF wants to give Punk his first lost in the ring. That's why he wanted him to put Punk through a table, so Punk would lose by count out. I don't care that he took 10 powerbombs and still found a way to win, we've seen Canadian Destroyers through tables get kicked out of. So big moves mean nothing in this promotion, so it's in line with the rest of the show.
Hearin Brian Last say CM Punk selling is reminiscent of Bret Hart CONFIRMS he watches PROMO JOE videos on YT, lol
You can't hate the booking of super cena and face reigns and then show me 110 pound man taking 8 power bombs and escaping with a Win.
You can't hate the cooking of super cena and face reigns and then show me 110 pound man taking 8 power bombs and escaping with a Win.
Wardlow expression was very on point loved is pissed faced at mjf when he stopped him and when he told him to do another on the table he's face was telling all like (why do i need to do that is already dead i can pin him and go home
Is there a reason why punk going through the table wasn't a DQ?
Jr always talks high of wardlow anytime he sees him.
Come on Jim, this deserves Twinkletoes level of hate. 8 powerbombs and a table spot 😂😂
It's a sad commentary when people listen to Corny and think even HE's not negative enough. People just want to bitch about shit.
finiish to the match was same as Brett Hart vs Diesel
That power bomb through the table outside looked like Wardlow just dropped him as lightly as possible. Made me wonder if he felt he was overdoing it.
That was part of the story imo. Wardlow felt he had done enough to win but MJF kept pushing for more. You could see the disdain in Wardlow's facial expressions.
Freebirds had 3 of the biggest moments in wrestling history in consecutive years: 1. Blinding JYD. 2. Piledriving Dibiase on concrete floor. 3. Turning on Von Erichs
why wouldn't you pin him and then powerbomb him 7 more times??? LAZY.... BOOKING....
MJF should beat Hangman for the AEW Title,
THEN Wardlow break-up and fight for the Title..
WARDLOW SHOULD BE CHAMP AFTER BEATING CHAMPION HEEL MJF.
Loved AEW now they need better writers, I went back to watching WWF and WCW reruns
MJF should beat Hangman for the AEW Title, THEN Wardlow break-up and fight for the Title..
WARDLOW SHOULD BE CHAMP AFTER BEATING CHAMPION HEEL MJF.
Loved AEW now they need better writers, I went back to watching WWF and WCW reruns
Wardlow literally looks like a 90s wrestling figure, quality look with the white trim gear.
Shirley Wardlow should have pinned Punk after the 5th powerbomb. MJF comes in, gets the mic, promo and tells Wardlow to powerbomb Punk some more. Wardlow is slightly hesitant but does as MJF asks (Or demands). Shots of MJF & Wardlow over Punk. Have refs help Punk to the back. No need for Spears at all. No table spot. Less MJF/Warlow and more MJF/Punk.
Look this is not a confusing storyline..Punks gonna beat spears,something might happen where wardlow destroys spears and turns and NOW MJF is screwed cuz all his backup is gone and will HAVE to face Punk by himself,Wardlow dosen't necessarily have to face MJF,him turning Baby face and being " free " can be him " winning "
how Phil Brooks even agree with such a finishing ? they are running 2 storyline in 1 match .... lol and I almost forgot I am watching CM Punk (The Best In The World) vs Wardlow.... I thought I was watching a squash jobber match with the "Powerbomb Symphony" massacre
I think before we get Punk vs MJF, we're gonna get Punk/Wardlow vs MJF/Spears. Just my opinion, but they're gonna run this feud out as long as they can. Also, I like the way Punk is paying homage to Bret, but honestly, it still doesn't look as good as Bret did it, and I'm a Punk fan! He's just not as natural and smooth as Bret was! The selling was great, but the rollup looked too stiff. Just my opinion. One more thing, Aubrey's fucking 10 count was soooo bad!!
PUNKBERG PUNKBERG PUNKBERG. Dude is like saitama. Never loses despite getting beatup alot
I think I could have booked a better finish for this match. Right at the point where MJF told Wardlow to break the 3 count and throw Punk outside, MJF should have grabbed the timekeeper's bell, smacked Punk with it and trigger a DQ. This still gives Punk a win, protects Wardlow, and screws Wardlow out of a win against a legendary performer (which can build toward his future feud with MJF). Why is this so hard for AEW??
I prefer this angle where Wardlow looks like he’s about to turn right now because the next AEW PPV is not until March 6 and I WOULD NOT give Punk vs MJF On free TV
So whatever you can do to prolong the anticipated match you do that until you can get a big payoff on a PPV, just my opinion
Wardlow should have taken a DQ loss for "excessive force", instead of that surprise roll-up for the finish. That way, Wardlow doesn't get accidentally buried in the process of performing these moves, and it makes Wardlow a more credible monster in the ring. That kind of a finish would also put over MJF as a hindrance to Wardlow, because it gets over the idea that MJF's Orders are interfering with Wardlow's ability to succeed in the ring.
Furthermore, nobody (especially at Punk's age) should be able to take 8 damned consecutive powerbombs and expect to get back up. That's just not believable...
...One or two should be enough to put the average enhancement talent out of commission for the match...
...Two to three (maybe), when spread out during the course of the match, should be enough to take down a well-respected veteran superstar, in order to set up the actual finish...
...But this finish right here? This is Looney Toons level of absurdity, because this finish takes the believability aspect of the match, and just throws it right out the window.
And Aubrey's intentional slow count didn't help matters either.
This was an easy 4 out of 5 match, that literally got dumped on its head, down to 2 out 5 (assuming I'm generous), just because of those elements alone. And as an AEW fan, that irritates me.
Punk is doing the same story as Jericho did..Having to face 3 or 4 guys to get to MJF...Cody ditto plus the belting from MJF..This coincidence or intentional.??