Thank you very much! I'm actually a composer, and i started playing horn a year ago (from curiosity) and now they are accepting me on conservatory (I studied there the clarinet before). So im not that far to play hand stopping, so my teacher didnt explained to me yet.. and now he doesnt have to :)
Fantastically wonderful explanation! Your video suggests that to play the stopped portion in the second section of Rimsky-Korsakov's Capriccio Espanol cannot be played on a B-flat horn since the written F and D are fourth harmonics. What would you recommend as a solution (other than using the F side of a double horn)?
If you have a trumpet handy, you can prove this without any machinery. You just need a bucket of water to dunk the bell into while you play. Your notes will portamento downward unless you fight the pitch drop and induce the snap to the semitone above your original pitch.
I'm still confused on how to write that in a score. On a F horn, to have a stopped F flat I would need to write the transposed note a half tone below, so B flat?
No, you just write the same pitch you would write if it weren’t stopped and add a + sign to the note. Adjusting the pitch for the effect of the stopping is the hornist’s job-that’s what Mr Lloyd explains around 5:00 of the video.
So I am playing rêverie by Alexander Glazounow and the end has stopped horn. I am confused because on the notes a flat b flat c f c e flat I am told to play the positions open 12 2 open 2 1 which is a half step lower and if the stopped horn it by 3/4 higher than the semitone below the note. Wouldn’t that make it lower? So I am not playing an a flat I am playing something lower. What should the notes and positions be? Or are the ones I have right?
Please do more videos because I play the French horn
Brilliant explanation. Thank you.
Thank you very much! I'm actually a composer, and i started playing horn a year ago (from curiosity) and now they are accepting me on conservatory (I studied there the clarinet before). So im not that far to play hand stopping, so my teacher didnt explained to me yet.. and now he doesnt have to :)
Always a gold mine of information!
Thank you so much Mr, Lloyd it is very interesting.
Fantastically wonderful explanation! Your video suggests that to play the stopped portion in the second section of Rimsky-Korsakov's Capriccio Espanol cannot be played on a B-flat horn since the written F and D are fourth harmonics. What would you recommend as a solution (other than using the F side of a double horn)?
This was very helpful very glad to have found you
17:05 What about Single B flat Horn with a stopping valve on an Alexander horn (because the thumb valve is upside down, where is it)
"There is no reason for anybody not to be able to hand stop"
But what if you have no right hand?
Does this mean if you go high enough that the harmonics are less than a semitone apart, you could hand stop gliss upwards by a fraction of a semitone?
If you have a trumpet handy, you can prove this without any machinery. You just need a bucket of water to dunk the bell into while you play. Your notes will portamento downward unless you fight the pitch drop and induce the snap to the semitone above your original pitch.
You are awesome!
Thanks!!
Wonderful
What was the piece Frank was referring to when he mentioned the IHS composition winner piece that used stopped playing incorrectly?
If the 17th, 18th, 19th harmonics are less than a semitone apart, why doesn't hand stopping raise the pitch slightly?
What happens if you play the whole harmonic series open from the 2nd harmonic up then use a stop mute to play the same series?
I'm still confused on how to write that in a score. On a F horn, to have a stopped F flat I would need to write the transposed note a half tone below, so B flat?
No, you just write the same pitch you would write if it weren’t stopped and add a + sign to the note. Adjusting the pitch for the effect of the stopping is the hornist’s job-that’s what Mr Lloyd explains around 5:00 of the video.
So I am playing rêverie by Alexander Glazounow and the end has stopped horn. I am confused because on the notes a flat b flat c f c e flat I am told to play the positions open 12 2 open 2 1 which is a half step lower and if the stopped horn it by 3/4 higher than the semitone below the note. Wouldn’t that make it lower? So I am not playing an a flat I am playing something lower. What should the notes and positions be? Or are the ones I have right?
What kind of Horn do you have?
Samuel Miller He has a Yamaha, the 4 valves are together.
It's a Gold Brass Engelbert Schmid Double
1:43 phantom of the opera lol
and as a composer you are meant to notate the fingered note or the hearing note (always transposed)