Fascinating. I've been studying electro-chemistry and cells a bit. I am still confirming if a conventional lithium ion battery is an electrolytic cell. I think it is. Electrolytic cells are an interesting beast. They need external electrical energy to first oxidize a "salt" in solution of energetic counter-ions, like sodium chloride for a basic example, Then these dissociated cations and anions (Na + and Cl- for example) travel through the electrolyte and "plate" their respective opposite-charged electrodes. This sets up the electrodes (anode -> cathode) for a redox reaction, which all batteries undertake to deliver electricity through electron flow from site of oxidation(anode) and reduction (cathode). The cathode and anode are initially neutral and inert, but when electricity is supplied to the cathode, it becomes - charged, while the anode by default becomes + charged in relation. This is all precursory setup The negative Cl- ion in this case plates the initially positive anode, and the Na+ plates the initially negative cathode. Now the anode can oxidize Cl- coming together to form neutral Cl and can give off electrons, and the cathode can reduce Na+ coming together to form neutral Na, keeping the reception of electrons and current flow. So, how does all this mumbo-jumbo relate? It looks to me like lithium ions in solution with a salt in the conventional lithium ion battery as described, first plated along with carbon or some other counterion substrate at the anode, setting it up for oxidation and energy flow. But apparently, QS's battery understands that pure lithium metal plated by itself at a not-yet-existing anode with no counter-ion substrate to pair with at this anode, is much, much more energy dense and storing, and a faster build of that potential charge.
according to my electrochemical remarks I noted that it is the bonds which migrate not the ions but the latter migrate according to physicauchemical criteria and not electrical criteria IN some experiances the is no migration of ions
Pretty much all batteries are swelling("breathing") during charge/discharge I wonder how the ceramic will hold up overtime, it feels like it will form cracks This will either show in accelerated aging or have a slightly higher safety risk(but only if the lithium gets exposed to an oxidiser) I'm just think about the LMP-battery fire that Bluebus 5SE have had recently in Paris
Hello, I am researching SSBs at my university right now. The lithium will deposit at incredibly small amounts onto the current collector so there is pretty much no swelling. The concern is about Li filament propagation through the electrolyte which causes shortages as well as dead Li (Li that extrudes too far and we cannot get back)
What's missing here is the downsides. If the description provided in this video was all there is then this technology would have taken over all markets long ago.
Its a technology in research in development, as all technology was at one point. I'm not saying it's a perfect technology. Solid state batteries tend to degrade quickly
Area 51 has one, element 115, in 1989 bob lazar claimed, and no one believed him, until 2004 it was "discovered"; the one lazar discovered was stable, and the one in 2004 wasn't as close.
Sounds like bullshit to me like everything else. What happened to the fuel cells they were talking about 20 years ago. Everything was going to be powered by fuel cells by now.
I dont like battieries ever seen the acid when it comes out...decades its against the law to throw a battery in the bin. Because its to toxic for the rubbish tip... You gotta throw tour phones in a special bin itll start fires in the rubbish tip... Anyone nitice that decades now. Thats why .. Cos the acids starts fires in rubbish dumps Hardwired i hate charging batteries I haaaate batteries .. Why i have extension leads ... For my hard wired electrics. Why id rather a petrol/gas Prefered deisel 4wd ... Id like to work on deisel purified bio fuel mixtures. Itll have higher octane. Needs a lot of work. I wont be trying if only have one car ...well no car ... No point idiotos... Better be justice...but yeah... Decades you cant fix my limp .. I need huge family intervention orders since i was 12 years old ...they crazy sick people as grandad said leave you in a flood and drink champagne on my money Yeah thats hieght of sickness
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Such really great video. Could you tell what software being used to make this type of video pls.
Fascinating. I've been studying electro-chemistry and cells a bit. I am still confirming if a conventional lithium ion battery is an electrolytic cell. I think it is. Electrolytic cells are an interesting beast. They need external electrical energy to first oxidize a "salt" in solution of energetic counter-ions, like sodium chloride for a basic example,
Then these dissociated cations and anions (Na + and Cl- for example) travel through the electrolyte and "plate" their respective opposite-charged electrodes. This sets up the electrodes (anode -> cathode) for a redox reaction, which all batteries undertake to deliver electricity through electron flow from site of oxidation(anode) and reduction (cathode).
The cathode and anode are initially neutral and inert, but when electricity is supplied to the cathode, it becomes - charged, while the anode by default becomes + charged in relation. This is all precursory setup The negative Cl- ion in this case plates the initially positive anode, and the Na+ plates the initially negative cathode. Now the anode can oxidize Cl- coming together to form neutral Cl and can give off electrons, and the cathode can reduce Na+ coming together to form neutral Na, keeping the reception of electrons and current flow.
So, how does all this mumbo-jumbo relate? It looks to me like lithium ions in solution with a salt in the conventional lithium ion battery as described, first plated along with carbon or some other counterion substrate at the anode, setting it up for oxidation and energy flow. But apparently, QS's battery understands that pure lithium metal plated by itself at a not-yet-existing anode with no counter-ion substrate to pair with at this anode, is much, much more energy dense and storing, and a faster build of that potential charge.
according to my electrochemical remarks I noted that it is the bonds which migrate not the ions but the latter migrate according to physicauchemical criteria and not electrical criteria IN some experiances the is no migration of ions
Pretty much all batteries are swelling("breathing") during charge/discharge
I wonder how the ceramic will hold up overtime, it feels like it will form cracks
This will either show in accelerated aging or have a slightly higher safety risk(but only if the lithium gets exposed to an oxidiser)
I'm just think about the LMP-battery fire that Bluebus 5SE have had recently in Paris
Nò LFP and LTO dont sweell unless overchaged continuousely obviousely
So does the battery become thicker with charging?
I would imagine putting a layer of space for the lithium to accumulate into.
in a quantum scape
Hello, I am researching SSBs at my university right now. The lithium will deposit at incredibly small amounts onto the current collector so there is pretty much no swelling. The concern is about Li filament propagation through the electrolyte which causes shortages as well as dead Li (Li that extrudes too far and we cannot get back)
The lithium batteries in my phone get dramatically thicker when overcharged,so I say 'yes' !😮
@@deadlycucco7269 does this filament problem also occur with batteries that use liquid electrolytes?
Are they solid state batteries like everyone else says or is this different?
Will building a SSB require roughly the same amount of lithium material as a Li-Ion / LFP battery?
Yes. But for the same amount of material, it has higher capacity, so it uses it more efficiently.
Weight is way less, recharge faster and travel longer distances.. Awesome 😎👍
What's missing here is the downsides. If the description provided in this video was all there is then this technology would have taken over all markets long ago.
Its a technology in research in development, as all technology was at one point. I'm not saying it's a perfect technology. Solid state batteries tend to degrade quickly
We're waiting.....
What is the name of the background music?
Been hearing about this since 2015. It's now 2022. If their are coming only in 2050, then this is all hype...
Right up there with fusion reactors.
@@deepsleep7822 Solid State batteries are more of a realistic goal.
brother anode is +ve charge
The context here is different. Electrodes are connected to positive/negative based on charge/discharge cycles.
Still waiting for nuclear battery
They are for many years in satellites.
Area 51 has one, element 115, in 1989 bob lazar claimed, and no one believed him, until 2004 it was "discovered"; the one lazar discovered was stable, and the one in 2004 wasn't as close.
I learned that anode is positive+ and cathode is negative - and the video it says the opposite ?????
Interesting. But have you actually made prototypes and actual proof of concept? Puncture test? Cold test?
I question the credibility of this video as soon as I hear the Anode being the negative side of the cell.
yeah. a to c
🤨 Very Skeptical about this.
Sounds like bullshit to me like everything else. What happened to the fuel cells they were talking about 20 years ago. Everything was going to be powered by fuel cells by now.
@@cooldog60 Yeah, that’s why I skip the hype and seek detailed explanation.
@@cooldog60 well fuel cells aren't efficient.
@@imeakdo7 And you think batteries are?
@@cooldog60 they are over 97% efficient. And oh sodium, cobalt, nickel and lithium are each far more abundant than platinum.
I have a better solution: INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE. ;-)
I dont like battieries ever seen the acid when it comes out...decades its against the law to throw a battery in the bin.
Because its to toxic for the rubbish tip... You gotta throw tour phones in a special bin itll start fires in the rubbish tip... Anyone nitice that decades now. Thats why ..
Cos the acids starts fires in rubbish dumps
Hardwired
i hate charging
batteries
I haaaate batteries ..
Why i have extension leads ... For my hard wired electrics.
Why id rather a petrol/gas
Prefered deisel 4wd ... Id like to work on deisel purified bio fuel mixtures. Itll have higher octane. Needs a lot of work. I wont be trying if only have one car ...well no car ... No point idiotos... Better be justice...but yeah... Decades you cant fix my limp ..
I need huge family intervention orders since i was 12 years old
...they crazy sick people as grandad said leave you in a flood and drink champagne on my money
Yeah thats hieght of sickness
Why always that stupid background music?