Jodie Foster Interview - ROD Show, 1997

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  • @seancasey2114
    @seancasey2114 3 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    Rosie, I watched your show everyday after school. As a little gay kid who was often bullied, I'd park myself in from of the television after some brutal days and find such happiness watching you. No one does it like you! :)

    • @MikeSings82
      @MikeSings82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It was my after school ritual as well :)

    • @Maxumized
      @Maxumized 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry you didn’t have roll models in your life that were tangible instead of media on a tv

    • @stephenfermoyle4578
      @stephenfermoyle4578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      sweet..yes she saved a lot of lives and had the world educated about Broadway

    • @MikeSings82
      @MikeSings82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Maxumized who says you can’t have both? And Rosie was a great role model; she brought joy to a lot of people, educated the public about breast cancer, and supported many charities. In one season she changed the face of daytime TV.

    • @nicholasbogosian5420
      @nicholasbogosian5420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same

  • @hoagymapleton2206
    @hoagymapleton2206 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    One word for Jodie Foster.. SUPERSTAR 🌠

  • @stevegordon8474
    @stevegordon8474 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I don't know what it is about Jodie Foster but it's really hard to take one's eyes off her. She is magnetic. And it doesn't matter whether she is 8 or 30 or 55, or being interviewed or in a movie. I wish I could bottle it because her charisma is on another level to anyone else.

  • @bethanycook8430
    @bethanycook8430 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    This is the most carefree I've seen jody in an interview

    • @JoseMiguelPujol
      @JoseMiguelPujol 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Lesbian love

    • @pam0626
      @pam0626 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Watch her on The Graham Norton show.

    • @AnaPaula-jv6bn
      @AnaPaula-jv6bn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You clearly haven’t seen many of her interviews

  • @jamesheath7601
    @jamesheath7601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Jodie is so beautiful. I like her voice too.

  • @sisterdebmac
    @sisterdebmac 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Lovely interview. Contact is one of my top 5 all time favorite movies. It blew my mind. And I loved Ellie Arroway as a character so much. Very inspirational. It was also incredible to see Jodie get to play someone fiercely intelligent and driven like she is, and with no gimmicks.

    • @valmacclinchy
      @valmacclinchy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Really difficult to name my favorite Jodie Foster movie, because she's done so many, and she's always amazing. Just re-watched The Little Girl Who Lived Down the Lane. Phenomenal.

    • @cajuncajun2594
      @cajuncajun2594 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You should read the book. There's so much more to the story

    • @sisterdebmac
      @sisterdebmac 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cajuncajun2594 I did, actually, after the movie. It's really different, but really cool. I still have my copy.

  • @richardscott4318
    @richardscott4318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, Taxi Driver, The Little Girl Who Lives Down the Lane, Walt Disney's Freaky Friday, Walt Disney's Candleshoe, Foxes, Carny, The Accused, The Silence of the Lambs, Somersby, Maverick, Nell, Panic Room, Nim's Island. What a treasure Jodie Foster truly is to film lovers everywhere. One of the finest and most respected contemporary actresses of all.

    • @jaime5429
      @jaime5429 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She also play the daughter of Raquel Welch in the 1972 film “The Kansas City Bomber”.

    • @randalljamison5359
      @randalljamison5359 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The first three movies you mentioned are three of my all time favorite movies.Carny, also and Bugsy Malone.

    • @escaton74
      @escaton74 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      plus "Stop Calling Me Baby" where she also performed the french soundtrack to

  • @siddharthnaagar7028
    @siddharthnaagar7028 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Thanking for sharing this interview, I literally strive to see all Jodie's interviews, the greatest woman ever

  • @adagiobreeze8493
    @adagiobreeze8493 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I can’t believe how much she accomplished by age 30

  • @justincastillogayray
    @justincastillogayray 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I remember watching this when it aired the day before Contact opened in theaters. July 10th, 1997. P.S. Jodie Foster did do Celebrity Jeopardy 2/5/2001 beating Harry Connick Jr. and Nathan Lane. Season 17. episode 111. P.P.S. I remember this episode also had Laura Innes as a guest.

  • @tomschmitz261
    @tomschmitz261 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    LOVE LOVE the movie "contact"... one of my favorite jodie movie's...

  • @soniafiordalisio962
    @soniafiordalisio962 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am so fascinated with Jodie Foster ❤ She's gorgeous, multi talented, very intelligent & kind. I watch any movie, series, interview she appears on.
    I wish her so much continued happiness & good health. xoxo

  • @fosterch11
    @fosterch11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Been watching her since we were both kids... always great.

  • @LiberianStreetwalker
    @LiberianStreetwalker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I cannot begin to emphasize how thrilled and amazed I am by this. I'm SHOOK

  • @Godlovesyouunconditionally
    @Godlovesyouunconditionally 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Jodie is the best my life is better because of her love you Jodie ❤️

  • @jeffmusgrave3691
    @jeffmusgrave3691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    OMG I loved Contact.

  • @Alisa16051998
    @Alisa16051998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I love you and Jodie so much! Thank you for the video!

  • @Channel-ew9dr
    @Channel-ew9dr ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love Rosie. She's a calm powerhouse, always paying attention to what the guests are saying, not making them uncomfortable, not fake-laughing at every funny or non-funny thing they say, genuinely interested in them. Today's hosts mostly know nothing except for being over the top. And who doesn't love Jodie Foster? She's an absolute treasure.

  • @myutube5882
    @myutube5882 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love her hair! I love everything about her! I wish I could meet her!

  • @bluebubbles4418
    @bluebubbles4418 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jodie got to the Top and Deserves it!

  • @hinhwood1629
    @hinhwood1629 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This takes me back. Love them both.

  • @maximilian2974
    @maximilian2974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    2 great ladies

  • @MsJman22
    @MsJman22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just love Rosie so much! She is everything 😍

  • @user-to3tv7oq7c
    @user-to3tv7oq7c ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ms Rosie and Ms Jodie, hello, good afternoon. I am very glad to see you ❣️❣️❣️,i love your films and scenarios very much, 💝 the little man Tait and the contact.

  • @DeepScreenAnalysis
    @DeepScreenAnalysis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    You are so much more authentic than Ellen Degeneres. You always talk to celebs like a real person.

  • @octobermoon9
    @octobermoon9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was great! I love Boxers ♥ I've had four. Sweetest and silliest pups ever. Contact is still one of my favorite movies. Thank you for posting your shows ♥

  • @yaphettvazquez9796
    @yaphettvazquez9796 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love Your Jodie's Voice.

  • @charlenetwa390
    @charlenetwa390 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jodie is my favorite actress..she is so down to 🌎

  • @pompom11
    @pompom11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Rosie had a crush on Tom Cruise, and Jodie had a boyfriend in 1997. Thankfully society has evolved year 2021 they can be lesbians and happy!

    • @mymymy9452
      @mymymy9452 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Was somebody forcing them to lie?

    • @MA-rf6bu
      @MA-rf6bu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mymymy9452 no they just wasn’t lesbians at that time

    • @mymymy9452
      @mymymy9452 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MA-rf6bu so it is a choice.

    • @RebeccaStropoli
      @RebeccaStropoli 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@MA-rf6bu Yes, they were lesbians all along. Rosie O'Donnell's "crush" on Tom Cruise was just a running joke for the show. Had nothing to do with her personal life or sexuality. And Jodie Foster's first son was born just a year after this interview -- she raised her two children with a girlfriend, Cydney Bernard, whom she was already with at the time this interview aired.

    • @RebeccaStropoli
      @RebeccaStropoli 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      What boyfriend? Jodie was already with her longtime girlfriend Cydney Bernard in 1997. And if you think Rosie's crush on Tom Cruise was "serious" and not just a bit for the show, you are quite naive.

  • @michaelsaparito
    @michaelsaparito 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your show was amazing. I miss it.

  • @Hankandrex
    @Hankandrex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Jodie Foster is so pretty!

  • @KimFsharpHarp
    @KimFsharpHarp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Look at those suits from the 90s. Gorgeous. Miss the classy styles. Jodi was educated and that is a big reason she’s set apart

  • @bradleym7319
    @bradleym7319 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    She is at her most beautiful in the mid to late 90s.

  • @MrS98VAC
    @MrS98VAC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The Little Girl Who Lives Down the Lane.

  • @jtrain5615
    @jtrain5615 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Jodie is so pretty

  • @valmacclinchy
    @valmacclinchy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jodie is iconic.

  • @carljcreighton
    @carljcreighton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    glad we're living in a world where they're out now

  • @thegovtdoesntcareaboutyou
    @thegovtdoesntcareaboutyou ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My beautiful jodie

  • @AndrewsOpinion15
    @AndrewsOpinion15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    happy 60th birthday alicia christian jodie foster !!!

  • @xrrrismickey
    @xrrrismickey ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The cutting edge "thespian". Who decided herself a "thespian" long after it mattered. Courage.

  • @mattdeans9873
    @mattdeans9873 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Even on the Partridge Family, Jody had and has a style of acting and line delivery that is very rare and special. Tyne Daly also has that special gift. It was inevitable JF would reach the heights she has. Plus she seems like a regular person. All the best JF/

  • @veloursnoir3269
    @veloursnoir3269 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a classy woman.

  • @ray10b73
    @ray10b73 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Trixie and Katya love contact. UnHHHH brought me here there web show.

  • @raynemichelle2996
    @raynemichelle2996 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2 fabulous gay women. I came out at 12 after Ellen came out. I told my mum, Ellen's like me. And then I realized I was actually trans, not a gay boy.

  • @stacyrath7530
    @stacyrath7530 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Both, very smart women...jodi likes Directing over acting (pulling everything together in a Production).

  • @carolecarr5210
    @carolecarr5210 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol, singing happy birthday to a dog - I loved it.

  • @RainRemnant
    @RainRemnant ปีที่แล้ว

    Binge watching ROD all day, when suddenly Jodie Foster popped in my head and I was asking about her, and guess what the next video was in my recommendations... This one!! Can't believe it, coincidence? Or YT is listening lol

  • @thescarecrowcat
    @thescarecrowcat 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rosie is so real. She is the host of her own show and doing so well in the face of someone who quite obviously intimidates her. But who wouldn't be!

  • @Vejur9000
    @Vejur9000 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jodie is just stunning here. She has a good singing voice actually.

  • @siddharthnaagar7028
    @siddharthnaagar7028 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    So much big gay energy in one interview

  • @savage_skirt5386
    @savage_skirt5386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would have liked to see her as a villain. She was so great in Inside Man.

  • @l7665
    @l7665 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Remember when Jodie was so closed and a bit shy in interviews? Look at her now!

  • @ellarn215
    @ellarn215 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    jodie is totally fangirlirng

  • @ew1068
    @ew1068 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Jodie Foster is just too cool

  • @RachelParker-1977
    @RachelParker-1977 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jodie is excellent. It's crazy to think that someone's obsession with her is the reason that President Reagan was nearly murdered. Rosie was so terrific on this program.

  • @josephadiaz8343
    @josephadiaz8343 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always thought Jodie Foster was beautiful and cool at the same time 😊❤️🙏✌️😎

  • @stephaniestanley8041
    @stephaniestanley8041 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The most beautiful woman

  • @Debby901
    @Debby901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember a show she did called To Rome with love with John Forsythe. Seems like it was the late 60's.

  • @user-wb2yv7ll9d
    @user-wb2yv7ll9d 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They're both the same age, 35 in 1997. I wonder if back then they were open to each other as far as being gay even though publicly they weren't open. Love hem both. ❤

  • @madelinekahn4953
    @madelinekahn4953 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing! Do you have Madeline Kahn's appereance on the show? Relesed on: 27 January 1998 / 7 October 1996. Thank you!!!

  • @ThatsJustMyBabyDaddy
    @ThatsJustMyBabyDaddy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    🌈

  • @ellarn215
    @ellarn215 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    the amount of flirting in that studio

  • @byronthomas153
    @byronthomas153 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Contact 1997

  • @mymymy9452
    @mymymy9452 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So I guess pantsuit was the lesbian gear back then.

  • @brandonbless9593
    @brandonbless9593 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    @rosie please post Roberta Flack interview on rosie air date: 10/25/1996 & 11/19/1997

  • @rossreynolds5153
    @rossreynolds5153 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think they like each other.

  • @gloriaratcliffeszawlowski4797
    @gloriaratcliffeszawlowski4797 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    🌈 💫

  • @MrMucciacito
    @MrMucciacito 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Una donna particolare

  • @ellarn215
    @ellarn215 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ICON GAYS

  • @mymidnightconfessions1457
    @mymidnightconfessions1457 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some woman actually owns the copyright to Happy Birthday and shell sue in a heartbeat.

  • @user-to3tv7oq7c
    @user-to3tv7oq7c ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lord 🙏 God bless 🙏 God you 💘 bless 💓.

  • @LTilli313
    @LTilli313 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Somehow i can't imagine this is actually Rosie's youtube channel and she's uploading these, or is it?? Anyone know??

    • @TitoTimTravels
      @TitoTimTravels 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It says it is a verified account... but the channel was created in 2012 and no videos until a month ago. So, who knows for sure?

    • @Ednabug
      @Ednabug 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes it’s her...she posts about it on her TikTok page

    • @LTilli313
      @LTilli313 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ednabug Wow,, thanks for sharing that! This show brings back so many great memories :)

  • @amernice
    @amernice 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i see a little bit of kristin stewart in her

    • @michaelreilly3513
      @michaelreilly3513 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Other way around, but they did play Mother and daughter in Panic Room, so you are not the only one.

    • @MichelleFouche1
      @MichelleFouche1 ปีที่แล้ว

      spot on, me too, the voice especially

  • @user-to3tv7oq7c
    @user-to3tv7oq7c ปีที่แล้ว

    Bye, Mrs Rosie and Jodie.

  • @MICHAEL_1989
    @MICHAEL_1989 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    NELL 🤍 ~🕊

  • @siddharthnaagar7028
    @siddharthnaagar7028 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jodie such a lier when she said she never gets any answer on jeopardy

  • @camilorojas2730
    @camilorojas2730 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let's go lesbians!!!

  • @SailorGreenTea
    @SailorGreenTea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:05, french...

  • @Calicokit101
    @Calicokit101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This interview has so many gay vibes....I think Rosie fancies Jodie....but it's not reciprocated.

    • @xrrrismickey
      @xrrrismickey ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope. Clearly not her type.

  • @wellofcire
    @wellofcire ปีที่แล้ว

    it's funny jodie saying she won't remember what she said/maybe did in the past......then they showed her as a little girl and she looked almost Nothing the same.....

  • @westley5735
    @westley5735 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    iconic lesbian moment

    • @ddt9164
      @ddt9164 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      such a slay moment

  • @jaysilverheals4445
    @jaysilverheals4445 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    keep in mind that Rosie knew quite well she was talking to a genius female iq 160. prime genetic material

  • @alyssapascual7521
    @alyssapascual7521 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Father is a merciful God, who always gives us comfort.
    They speak in Christ, and they speak in the sight of God. Their message is trustworthy, because it comes from God, who sent them.
    You yourselves are all the endorsement we need. Your very lives are a letter that anyone can read by just looking at you.

  • @user-qf6si9vz7p
    @user-qf6si9vz7p 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ну вот, Фостер, как хорошо, о чём речь я бы хотела поговорить по поводу фильма "контакт", если можно мне это кино тоже остался большой, оставила вот и может. Расскажете о нем, потому что слишком приятного много там и то, что мне осталось ли, что она была как можно волну ловить, когда даже не знаешь какое-то такое кино, ну главное, что мне понравилась, она не побоялась прийти. Вот такое место там её посадили специальную капсулу, её полностью, как бы сказать, полностью застегнули, чтобы она ни в коем случае не в потом, она такое видела, как будто как будто где-то в. Вот именно, я не знаю, как это памяти, на что вот именно. Я как запомнила, что у вас там, вы бежите тренировки, тренировки, стрельба постоянно там, то правильно держать надо, а то постоянно ловить воров, там что-то правильно надо наручники одевать, это очень интересное кино. Ну, мне понравилось, что вас вызвали в фбр, чтобы взять вас в расследование и расследование убийцы доктора лектора именно его расследование именно ему, как вы там себя чувству. Было ли вам уют такую роль играть Ларисы Старлинг, я же чувствую, когда смотрела, видно, что было так не по себе было не по себе играть роль Ларисы этой Старлинг, потому что она сама видно, переживала, волновалась? Лариса из-за этого ей было сложновато, но получилось хорошая роль, я в восторге от вас в восторге от того, что, как вы говорите спокойно, видно очень спокойно, вот и мне просто. Приятно, что вы. Это всё происходило там очень сложно подбирать слова, простите меня уж, так вот. И очень приятно, что вот так происходит, вот этовью за интервью, это даже интересно, я потихоньку буду, как говорит обобщать, обобща эти фильмы, вот и промолчание всё-таки идё. Вот настолько это интересно, настолько интригующе и столько всего интересного, и. И бедная девочка, как она тоже пострадала от этого Котор е с и всё разодрал на платье, которое она была хотел изнасиловать её. Такую посадила, такую дыру посадил, за что бедная девочка жалко её, безумно жалко её эту, потому что как. Ну как можно было так сделать, я не понимаю, жалко её жалко, ну с этого всё пошло. То, что допрашивали, это уже понятно, что приходили там с ним разговаривали, и он тет, а тет и спросили у него, вот вы рассказали о себе. А теперь вы расскажите о себе, ну вот про ягнят, начали говорить, а почему они болели так сильно, вот скажите вот что, что там произошло, почему я там плохо было, почему такое произошло, может, потесь в комментариях, мне тут было не понятно. А там всё интересно было, да там много, я могу много рассказать, но это эфира не хватит вам в том и дело, что. Послушайте, мой комментарий прослушали и надеюсь, я стал нормальные комментарии, я так думаю, может быть, и ответ на него я буду рада, если это сделаете.

  • @ingridb.1209
    @ingridb.1209 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Me agrada la gente que no alardea de que es inteligente. A ver? Habla español

  • @NoteFromSELF
    @NoteFromSELF 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rosie made this awkward.

  • @mikehunthurst6953
    @mikehunthurst6953 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    She’s not super beautiful but her intellect is what is most attractive. I can fall in love with her.

    • @linniem5982
      @linniem5982 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even though she is a Lesbian?

    • @michaelreilly3513
      @michaelreilly3513 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@linniem5982 Yes. Love does not always need to be sexual.

    • @Ri57490
      @Ri57490 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelreilly3513 'fall in love' suggests romance. Jodie is only romantically interested in women. If he simply said 'I love Jodie', that can be interpreted in a platonic way.

    • @michaelreilly3513
      @michaelreilly3513 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ri57490 Not sure why you are trying to educate me on your version of : in love or love, nor am I in need of your limiting view of Jodie's sexuality (only...your words) and have no desire to investigate it lol.

    • @thegovtdoesntcareaboutyou
      @thegovtdoesntcareaboutyou ปีที่แล้ว

      She is edtremely beautiful wtf u talkin abt

  • @CFster
    @CFster 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can tell Jodie had enough of Rosie, who’s pandering to an audience who cares about the color of outfits rather than acting chops. Jodi could read when she was three. Remember when? Remember when? Drivel.

  • @patbrown2699
    @patbrown2699 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They both seemed akward, probably because they were both in the closet!

  • @pattibrooks1907
    @pattibrooks1907 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I truly love Jodie but did not know she was gay ! I dont think its true ! Nethier is Rosie gay !

    • @RebeccaStropoli
      @RebeccaStropoli 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Are you serious? They are both very gay. Jodie is married to a woman. Rosie has been married to two women.

    • @pattibrooks1907
      @pattibrooks1907 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RebeccaStropoli So what ! They dont act gay but even if they are gay its not our busness to judge them !

    • @RebeccaStropoli
      @RebeccaStropoli 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@pattibrooks1907 Who is judging them?? It's perfectly fine! And there is no such thing as "acting gay." Gay people are just regular people. They don't act in any particular way, lol.

    • @pattibrooks1907
      @pattibrooks1907 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RebeccaStropoli Gays are not bad people infact alot of them are very nice ! Ive neber been gay but know some that are gay like Steve with Gravesites on You Tube which he did not act gay so did not even know !

    • @RebeccaStropoli
      @RebeccaStropoli 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@pattibrooks1907 That is because there is no such thing as "acting gay." They are just normal people, like everyone else.