What are virtual particles?

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  • Virtual particles are one of those topics of modern physics that just don’t sound real. How can particles just appear and disappear without anyone seeing them. In this video, Fermilab’s Dr. Don dives into the topic, giving us an understanding of how virtual particles arise from quantum field theory.
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  • @ColinJonesPonder
    @ColinJonesPonder 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +180

    This is the clearest explanation of virtual particles I've seen.

    • @ClassicalLiberalWarrior
      @ClassicalLiberalWarrior 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Me too.

    • @MathisGries-ml5qv
      @MathisGries-ml5qv 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Science Asylum did it first, and better. The first half of this video was just misleading.

    • @ClassicalLiberalWarrior
      @ClassicalLiberalWarrior 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MathisGries-ml5qv What's the link?

    • @JerryMlinarevic
      @JerryMlinarevic 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Everything happens sequentially in our universe/s and beyond. Realities can be created by consciousness because of iterative repetition of events which differentiate by small amount, thereby creating an illusion of moments in time. Now, this repetitive process is divided by destruction of all that is created before the next creation process starts again. This border line of creation and destruction is the virtual particles that physicists posit where all things are smashed (actually a grind) into the smallest parts. If you measure the frequency at which this takes place you will have the frequency of creation, in a sense. If you encase yourself with a higher frequency than the creation frequency, then you can go back in time and visit the dinosaurs, and even to our future but to a limited depth. Think about this. To really understand the above, start with a magnet not quantum whatever! (Corrected misspellings)

    • @tribute2aname450
      @tribute2aname450 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ClassicalLiberalWarrior YT won't allow links anymore, just search 'Science Asylum virtual particles' or 'PBS space time virtual particles'

  • @wbgookin
    @wbgookin 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +136

    I love how the more advanced physics gets, the more it sounds like you're just making stuff up. :)

    • @michaelsommers2356
      @michaelsommers2356 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

      It sounds like that only because the average person does not have the background to really understand. As Arthur Clarke said, any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

    • @DrDeuteron
      @DrDeuteron 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@michaelsommers2356 naw, it still sounds like bs.

    • @Philitron128
      @Philitron128 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      ​@@DrDeuteron it might sound that way, but only because you don't have very much familiarity or experience on the topic. This same exact thing would apply if you went back in time and tried explaining what gravity is to a medieval peasant. "Mass bends spacetime, and this results in an apparent gravity effect? Sounds crazy m'lord. Time to go back to getting killed by a drunk knight m'lord."

    • @ElectronFieldPulse
      @ElectronFieldPulse 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      It makes sense to me if I consider the cosmic background radiation means there is always some energy in empty space, so that energy is pulsating through the fields making virtual particles. Kind of like if the top of the ocean has waves and every once in a while they combine to make a white cap. The white cap would be the real particles since it had sufficient energy to make them, the other waves would be the virtual particles. That makes sense in my head but I have a feeling I am wrong. What I don’t understand is when he says empty space with truly no energy could make virtual particles, that just doesn’t make sense to me. Where is the energy coming from to create the waves in the quantum fields? I understand they pop up in pairs and annihilate each other, so there would be 0 energy in the end, but where do they get the energy to make the particle anti particle pair in the first place? How does the excitation in the quantum field even exist without any energy creating it? That is really confusing to me, it is basically saying you get something from nothing but don’t worry it will go away quickly. It isn’t the going away quickly part I am confused by, it is how they even exist in the first place for this to happen. I assume it has something to do with the uncertainty principle, but even after thinking about it I am so lost. Also, for the Casimir Effect, how are they sure it is virtual particles causing the plates to be pushed together? Of the virtual particles truly don’t have energy and it is all borrowed, how could the plates get the energy to be pushed together? Man, physics fascinates me but I am a chemist and it is so much more straight forward than quantum physics (at least for the chemistry I do, I know the really smart people deal with quantum physics in chemistry)

    • @amit2smadar
      @amit2smadar 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      ​@@ElectronFieldPulse ​hey there, you seem a bit confused so let me clear some things up for you.
      Cosmic background radiation, or more correctly "cosmic microwave background radiation", is not some sort of energy that space has. It is merely photons from (almost) the beginning of the universe.
      Meaning they are real particles, in this case photons, and thus are the specific vibrations (or excitations) in the photon field that create real particles. So CMBR has nothing to do with virtual particles.
      Concerning where the energy comes from, well you are right about the uncertainty principle being used to explain it. Just think of it as the particles (and thus their energy) existing for a short enough time that the universe doesn't realize some laws are being broken.
      I know it's weird but tbh I don't 100% understand it myself, and that's a simplified explanation that I think works.
      And finally, the pressure difference is what creates the force pulling the plates together, not the energy of the particles. You can try and imagine a similar thing but with a vacuum instead.
      Say you have a sealed container that for our example is pretty weak, like a plastic bottle. Pump all the air out and create a perfect vacuum, absolutely nothing in the bottle and thus no energy inside the bottle. It would still implode because of the pressure difference.
      I hope I helped a little, physics is fascinating and I think it's a shame a lot of people don't see it because of how complex it can get at times.
      Have a great day!

  • @DCDevTanelorn
    @DCDevTanelorn 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    9:29 It’s great that Dr. Don reminds us that there’s plenty of room to understand all this better. That scientific theories are our current best understanding, not absolute facts.

    • @101Mant
      @101Mant 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Yeah I've been asked if I "believe" in the big bang to which I could only say "I believe it's our current best model".
      Language is slippery and it's much easier to just talk about these things as fact rather than fill your sentences with qualifiers but I think sometimes we forget not everyone realises it's implicit.

    • @martifingers
      @martifingers 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Indeed. This aspect of scientific knowledge is critical and has implications for all aspects of knowledge. It is also much misunderstood, I think, when theists argue with naturalists.
      Living with uncertainty, tentative hypotheses etc. requires a certain psychology... I might say humility!

    • @caseyshearer9519
      @caseyshearer9519 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@101Mant Unfortunately, I think most people don't realise it's implicit.

  • @Schulstand
    @Schulstand 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +44

    There are channels that provide pretty satisfactory explanations, but yours always shines in that regard, I'm so glad I stumbled upon it, thanks for the video!

  • @PaulBrassington_flutter_expert
    @PaulBrassington_flutter_expert 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    More of the deep dives please, great to get to field theory which does explain this tricky subject and clears the mind.

  • @Turnoutburndown
    @Turnoutburndown 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +57

    That cover of Beach Boys “Good Vibrations” at the end is brilliant. Props to whoever made that!

    • @benjaminfrank9294
      @benjaminfrank9294 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      you mean GOOD RATIO ?

    • @Bjowolf2
      @Bjowolf2 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Don must have pulled some strings 😂

    • @moegreen3870
      @moegreen3870 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Bjowolf2 lol

    • @GaryYates-pi9gy
      @GaryYates-pi9gy 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@Bjowolf2 - Ha! Ha! You're just 'string'ing us along! Ha! Ha! Ha!
      🤣

    • @Bjowolf2
      @Bjowolf2 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@GaryYates-pi9gy It's just a theory 😂

  • @TedToal_TedToal
    @TedToal_TedToal 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    I thought that was one of your best videos, especially the bit right at the end.

  • @richard84738
    @richard84738 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Im just a layman but this dude makes THE best explanations I have ever heard. Are these seriously free videos? These feel like they should be behind a paywall.

    • @PlanckRelic
      @PlanckRelic 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He works for a national lab. Part of their remit is scientific outreach. Ultimately, taxpayers are footing the bill.

    • @inverse_of_zero
      @inverse_of_zero 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@PlanckReliconly those that reside in the USA. So for everyone else, this is free content 🙃

  • @JonBrase
    @JonBrase 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    The real question, I think, is "are particles real?". The more I learn about QFT, the more convinced I become that particles are just an emergent phenomenon at macroscopic scales. Virtual particles aren't any less real than particles on the mass shell, but that doesn't actually make them real.

    • @i_booba
      @i_booba 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Yeah, according to QFT, the fields are more fundamental than particles. So in that sense, “real” and “virtual” particles are really just the fields vibrating in different ways. But, we don’t know a deeper theory at this point in time, and it’s very possible (and likely) that the fields themselves are emergent phenomena from something we haven’t discovered yet.

    • @juzoli
      @juzoli 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Everything is “real” which has measurable effect. So yes they are real.
      But it might be “real” in a different way than what we might think.

    • @zray2937
      @zray2937 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      As far as we know, virtual particles are just a figment that appears in the math of QFT due to the perturbative approach.

    • @arctic_haze
      @arctic_haze 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Emergent does not mean nonexistant. Possibly even space is emergent.

    • @tonywells6990
      @tonywells6990 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Particles are real in that they have conserved properties such as 'quarkness' or 'electronness' (baryon and lepton number), spin, charge, mass etc, and they cannot just 'disappear' into the vacuum. These strongly conserved properties ensure that the real particles hang around for a very long time unless they interact in a certain way, and that their properties are conserved if they become other particles.

  • @okiesam
    @okiesam 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Finally an explanation that is understandable and not intentionally "mysterious".

  • @jacklinde7568
    @jacklinde7568 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +63

    0:42 - "I mean, just look right there. Do you see particles appearing and disappearing?"
    Me: "Oh, those particles? I thought we were calling them floaters. Maybe it's time I got my eyes checked."

    • @IAmAlgolei
      @IAmAlgolei 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I saw them too, but I managed to blink them away.

    • @jaybingham3711
      @jaybingham3711 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@IAmAlgoleiAfter blinking, mine just quantum tunneled to another location.

    • @orionx79
      @orionx79 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Nope mine stay in vision, being nearsighted i see them more, got a bunch too that aways stay in same spots.i can ignore them mostly unless the suns close to the horizon then the lights just right for a seconds ill confuse them for insects, then be annoyed till the sun lower or higher.

  • @kiefnebula3464
    @kiefnebula3464 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I can't wait for the next string of videos. Sounds like they are going to be epic. Thanks!! 🎉

  • @Breakfast_of_Champions
    @Breakfast_of_Champions 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +155

    I still miss the mustache😋

    • @Ri-ver
      @Ri-ver 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +61

      It's still there, it's just a virtual mustache

    • @20cmusic
      @20cmusic 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's dirty.

    • @canis2020
      @canis2020 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      He's been replaced by an AI. Welcome to the future.

    • @MrElvis1971
      @MrElvis1971 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      It annihilated with his anti- moustache

    • @thomascoolidge2161
      @thomascoolidge2161 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Mustacheless Dr Don does not exist.

  • @YatrikShahisAwesome
    @YatrikShahisAwesome 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This was a really great video, thank you. Appreciate all the work you do to make advanced topics accessible to curious laymen like myself.

  • @jamesedward9306
    @jamesedward9306 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Love this channel. Great explanation.

  • @DarkBraveStuff
    @DarkBraveStuff 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    always a fun day when fermilab uploads!

  • @markdelag
    @markdelag 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you, Don, you are always worth watching!

  • @KrudlerTheHorse
    @KrudlerTheHorse 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I find it such a wonderful *relief* to learn about Quantum Field theory in this way. I very much appreciated the assertiveness, driving home the validity of this model. I know the standard joke is that the more one learns about QM the less one understands it, but here I find it actually *quite intuitive*. I am waiting with bated breath for more videos discussing these concepts further! I'm actually enchanted. Great video.

  • @Blackacreonfire
    @Blackacreonfire 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    With all of space being full of virtual particles, how do things move through space without any drag/friction?

    • @istvansipos9940
      @istvansipos9940 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They probably don't? Not even the best vacum is perfect. And even if I assume a perfect vacum, there are these particles with some mass in the way. Their mass and the friction/drag they cause must be negligible, I think.
      and maybe the boiling bubbling animation is just an illustration. Maybe 1 pair happens a second in 1 cubic m?
      (yes, I am guessing)

    • @adama7752
      @adama7752 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, but it both directions. Drag in front but a boost from behind. It's the same as the Casimir effect he talked about.

  • @vick229
    @vick229 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Great and straight forward explanation

  • @antoniovega1544
    @antoniovega1544 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fermilab upload! Today is a good day :)
    Much love for Dr. Don and much love for physics 😁

  • @aether_
    @aether_ 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So many of my questions answered in just one ten minute video. I love you

  • @ahmedrafea8542
    @ahmedrafea8542 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Informative and intriguing. Can't think of a better way to explain advance modern physics. Thank you very much.

  • @marcochimio
    @marcochimio 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That was incredibly helpful and clear. Thank you.

  • @DH-bf9xb
    @DH-bf9xb 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video. I've always been super fascinated with this virtual particle subject.

  • @luiscaldera1295
    @luiscaldera1295 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The mustache went virtual my friends

  • @dunnokki
    @dunnokki 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Banger, after banger, after banger. Thanks Don, Ian, and Fermilab once again for an excellent presentation!

  • @meesalikeu
    @meesalikeu 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    doc don lays it out again so clearly and patiently with us civilian physics phans. thank you doc!

  • @JohnGunn-
    @JohnGunn- 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you Dr Don scientist man! I enjoy all your videos!

  • @fagica
    @fagica 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Brilliant and effective explanation, one of your best. Even I understood, or, at least, I could follow. I am curious now about how fields interact and what the outcomes are. Thank you.

  • @larrywebber2971
    @larrywebber2971 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great explanation of virtual particles. Thanks.

  • @constpegasus
    @constpegasus 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thank you as always sir.

  • @rc5989
    @rc5989 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dr. Don is a very good science communicator. This video clearly and concisely removes the mystery around virtual particles. He even makes clear that there is of course a lot more specifics available in other videos, AND makes clear that theories are changeable to match the experimental data.
    In my opinion, a good experimental physicist usually has very solid grasp of the first principles and foundations, while many theoretical physicists seem to falter, in my opinion.

    • @jareknowak8712
      @jareknowak8712 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      "removes the mistery"

  • @WestOfEarth
    @WestOfEarth 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fantastic deep dive, Don. This physics student has a better understanding of what's happening at the sub-atomic level

  • @esalehtismaki
    @esalehtismaki 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Good vibrations indeed :-) I hope to one day really understand particles and energy. Fascinating subject.

  • @JimmyCerra
    @JimmyCerra 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    9:24 And that's just a theory. A Field Theory!!!!

  • @piercebros
    @piercebros 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Dr Don is a hero

  • @cabanford
    @cabanford 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Lovely explanation for us mere mortals ❤

  • @ZetaFuzzMachine
    @ZetaFuzzMachine 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gotta love that Guitar Pro 6 midi outro! Good vibes are yours boy!!

  • @somedude4805
    @somedude4805 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love these videos. I quit working on cars and I’m in college studying physics because of these. Thank you.

  • @dubiousName
    @dubiousName 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks, truly informative. I've wondered a long time what virtual particles were. Now I know 🙂

  • @Dudu-iq7ww
    @Dudu-iq7ww วันที่ผ่านมา

    I always see scientists saying in QFT that electrons are excitations in the electric field, and so with every particle that has its field. However, shouldn't these fields all be a single, complex quantum field? This was worth a video explaining, and showing, for example, why an electron could not be an excitation in a Higgs field, for example. I'm newbie to these physics questions but I love how you explain everything in a simple way!

  • @tresajessygeorge210
    @tresajessygeorge210 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    THANK YOU... PROFESSOR DR.LINCOLN...!!!

  • @DANGJOS
    @DANGJOS 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What he said at the end there is so important! These are models. We don't necessarily know what is actual

  • @bigsarge2085
    @bigsarge2085 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Fascinating!

  • @walterzagieboylo6802
    @walterzagieboylo6802 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is so great.

  • @cenred4821
    @cenred4821 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Please do a video on how the different quantum fields interact

  • @WilliamDye-willdye
    @WilliamDye-willdye 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Bring on the deep dives

  • @dr.satishsharma1362
    @dr.satishsharma1362 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Excellent....❤ thanks 🙏.

  • @Mr.Not_Sure
    @Mr.Not_Sure 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Didn't learn anything new, just was reassured that my view is in line with modern physics view. Anyways good value video!

  • @praveenb9048
    @praveenb9048 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    There is a school of thought that says the casimir effect is similar to the Van der Waals force, caused by polarization of the surface atoms.

    • @lepidoptera9337
      @lepidoptera9337 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It isn't. It's caused by the boundary conditions of the vacuum. In practice the ontological difference is negligible, I suppose... atoms are "the vacuum". ;-)

  • @jimf2525
    @jimf2525 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love your channel and this video in particular. Congrats to you and your team. One criticism: near the end, you said, ‘just a theory’. We all know what you mean, but some people might hear that and say evolution is just theory. Maybe, ‘not a highly Confirmed theory’?

  • @Sumaleth
    @Sumaleth 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That is a great explanation! I have a couple of followup questions, if I may:
    1. why are the fields jiggling with random energy all the time?
    2. how, when a virtual particle appears, is it always particle/antiparticle? what are the mechanics that conspire to maintain that neatness?

  • @kimpettersson6605
    @kimpettersson6605 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I would love to see a video about the spin of quantum particles and the Pauli exclusion principle, I think it is fascinating but really hard to understand 🔬😇

    • @jameshart2622
      @jameshart2622 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It seems to not correspond to anything classical at all, which is why it is so strange.

    • @frun
      @frun 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jameshart2622 There are good visualisations of spin on YT.

    • @frun
      @frun 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jameshart2622 No. Example, spin as a crystal deformation: th-cam.com/video/1KXpkUYvbGo/w-d-xo.htmlm20s

  • @zeropointenergy1574
    @zeropointenergy1574 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Don rocks!

  • @xaviermartinezalvarez6332
    @xaviermartinezalvarez6332 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks again dear professor. Another easy class for people like me, basic Physics apprentice.
    I only have a question, an eternal question: Where does Energy come from? the Energy that keeps fields and particles in constant activity.

  • @PawelS_77
    @PawelS_77 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is a good explanation of the "pair creation" phenomenon, but from what I've heard, virtual particles are also used to mediate the interactions (for example, a static electric or magnetic force doesn't use real photons, it uses virtual ones instead). It would be nice to get an explanation how it works...

    • @neilhubbard6461
      @neilhubbard6461 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes, the concept that the force I feel between two magnets, or when I touch something is caused by photons - that also let me see - just seems bizarre.

  • @lettuceman306
    @lettuceman306 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That idea of virtual particles being like, "imperfect"/"partial" manifestations of particles - rather than complete individual particles we usually think of - makes so much sense, I think the lightbulb that appeared above my head was brighter than the sun.

    • @charlesbrightman4237
      @charlesbrightman4237 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      'Virtual Particles' Is that like a 'Virtual Magical Sky Daddy' that many people also believe in to be really true?

  • @JohelSouza
    @JohelSouza 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent video, as always. I watch it, rest my head in the pillow, close my eyes and rest in peace as your class reverberates inside my brain. And no, I do not fall asleep or else I would waste that moment of truly peace. 🙂

  • @DrFrank-xj9bc
    @DrFrank-xj9bc 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Thank you, Don Lincoln, that video has got real substance.
    I propose to delete all those recent Shorts about The World Quantum Day, which have zero content.

    • @0neIntangible
      @0neIntangible 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I second this proposal.

    • @Jetstream__
      @Jetstream__ 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Me too

    • @jballenger9240
      @jballenger9240 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Agree. Many of the questions were not answered or need more content to do so. Not great, not even good, answers to good questions, from those who may have given a reasonable answer if not being asked to do in less than 2 minutes or in a sound bite. Poor content.

    • @JerryMlinarevic
      @JerryMlinarevic 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Everything happens sequentially in our universe/s and beyond. Realities can be created by consciousness because of iterative repetition of events which differentiate by small amount, thereby creating an illusion of moments in time. Now, this repetitive process is divided by destruction of all that is created before the next creation process starts again. This border line of creation and destruction is the virtual particles that physicists posit where all things are smashed (actually a grind) into the smallest parts. If you measure the frequency at which this takes place you will have the frequency of creation, in a sense. If you encase yourself with a higher frequency than the creation frequency, then you can go back in time and visit the dinosaurs, and even to our future but to a limited depth. Think about this. To really understand the above, start with a magnet not quantum whatever! (Corrected misspellings)

  • @dennisbrown5313
    @dennisbrown5313 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It is interesting that these particles give such excellent answers to physics systems in QM but terrible for space in general. Turns out that this issue can be solved.

  • @agharohailmehmood4224
    @agharohailmehmood4224 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    EXCELLENT 😅

  • @kylebowles9820
    @kylebowles9820 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Notification squad!

  • @chrisarmstrong8198
    @chrisarmstrong8198 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    More explanation, please ! Do the virtual particles originate at the same point? What determines their velocities? Do their velocities have equal magnitude but opposite directions? What causes them to disappear? If their masses are positive, how does Hawking radiation reduce the mass of a black hole?

  • @jacksonstarky8288
    @jacksonstarky8288 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Speaking of the crazier corners of physics... I've heard that there's a hypothesis that all electrons (and, presumably, all of each other distinct type of lepton or quark) are the same particle traveling through spacetime. A video exploring this idea would be very interesting.

    • @rajesh_shenoy
      @rajesh_shenoy 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      IIRC, this theory was debunked when the very first electron was smashed in a particle accelerator. If the theory were true, the entire universe would have ceased to exist (at least, as we know it) at that instant.

    • @darrennew8211
      @darrennew8211 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@rajesh_shenoy I think "disproven" would be better than "debunked." Nobody was trying to sell you on it, so it wasn't bunk to start with. :-)

    • @brothermine2292
      @brothermine2292 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Actually, the hypothesis is that a positron is an electron traveling backward in time, and the single electron bounces back & forth in time again & again, so that it looks like many electrons exist at any particular moment. It's debunked by the imbalance of antimatter & matter, because it predicts an equal number of electrons and positrons should appear to exist, but they don't.

    • @JerryMlinarevic
      @JerryMlinarevic 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Everything happens sequentially in our universe/s and beyond. Realities can be created by consciousness because of iterative repetition of events which differentiate by small amount, thereby creating an illusion of moments in time. Now, this repetitive process is divided by destruction of all that is created before the next creation process starts again. This border line of creation and destruction is the virtual particles that physicists posit where all things are smashed (actually a grind) into the smallest parts. If you measure the frequency at which this takes place you will have the frequency of creation, in a sense. If you encase yourself with a higher frequency than the creation frequency, then you can go back in time and visit the dinosaurs, and even to our future but to a limited depth. Think about this. To really understand the above, start with a magnet not quantum whatever! (Corrected misspellings)

    • @moegreen3870
      @moegreen3870 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@JerryMlinarevic LOL... who has visited the dinosaurs??
      are you saying that somebody can predict an as-yet untapped archaelogical dig site?
      by visiting a specific place that hasn't yet been explored to see what persistent structures got buried at that location?

  • @TerryBollinger
    @TerryBollinger 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Don Lincoln, you noted at 4:04 in your Fermilab video [1] on virtual particles that _“… even with virtual particles, some of the usual rules apply. In this case, matter and antimatter particles appear in pairs.”_ My apologies for violating the usual TH-cam physics etiquette of never asking serious questions. My three questions are so simple that I hoped you might make an exception for a poor, bewildered computer scientist.
    Producing a pair of virtual particles requires them, however briefly, to have equal and opposite momentums to achieve separation. That, in turn, requires them to originate at a point in space where their total momentum is zero.
    *Question #1:* In what inertial frame is the virtual-pair origin point motionless?
    *Question #2:* Since special relativity requires empty space to be identical from in frame of motion, won’t every moving observer, regardless of speed, see pairs of virtual particles that are motionless in their frame and thus moving relative to any other frame?
    *Question #3:* Since observers moving at close to lightspeed must observe virtual pairs similarly moving at close to lightspeed from any other viewpoint, how do you keep the indefinitely increasing relativistic energy of these fast-moving virtual particle pairs from forming an infinitely energetic gas that instantly incinerates the universe (Fig. 1)?
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    *References*
    [1] D. Lincoln, What are virtual particles? Fermilab (TH-cam) *2024,* 0417 (2024). th-cam.com/video/ayQhNLqbTFk/w-d-xo.html

    • @etaaramin9361
      @etaaramin9361 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Not a physicist, but I can say that the pairs *don't* appear to behave the same from two reference points. In fact, one peculiar aspect of hawking radiation, which is what happens when examining these fluctuations at the event horizon of a black hole, is that if you accelerate towards and/or freefall into the event horizon it appears to radiate less (or not at all). If you accelerate away, it appears to radiate more.
      So in one frame there are real particles - as one half of the pair tumbles into the event horizon, now making the other "real" with no virtual partner - that appear to be virtual particles in another frame.

  • @glynnec2008
    @glynnec2008 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A physicist finally said something I've always wondered about, i.e that an anti-particle is a different vibration of the particle field.
    Plus something that I never even considered, i.e that virtual particles are also vibrations of the particle field.

  • @scotthammond3230
    @scotthammond3230 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    It feels like there is a lot missing here. Is there a difference between the vacuum energy churning which produce virtual pair particles, and the virtual particles, say photons, that exist between two electrons, a la the basic Feynman diagram?

    • @toastyburger
      @toastyburger 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Good point.

  • @LynxUrbain
    @LynxUrbain 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    🎸🎶✨🎸 Thanks a lot, Don! I have a few questions and a comment:
    - Do virtual particles interact with the Higgs field, or does the way they "vibrate" make it impossible to interact with the Higgs field? If so, what about virtual particles that "normally" have no mass (photon, gluon)? Or is interaction with the Higgs field another story altogether?
    - Is there, then, only ONE way for particles to vibrate that allows them to become "real" but, perhaps, a multitude of ways to vibrate that allows them to remain virtual?
    - And why do you speak about the "uncertainty principle" and not the "indeterminacy principle" ? Knowing that the 1st way of naming it can be misleading. 🎸🎶✨

  • @sogerc1
    @sogerc1 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi Dr. Don! Another mind bending hypothesis is that gravity is an entropic force. Would you like to make a video about that? I'd be very interested in your take.

  • @Jamex07
    @Jamex07 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    sometimes I speculate on a version of kaluza klein theory where instead of an extra compactified dimension its actually an extra scalar field with its own 1D hamiltonian metric. And that the dirac field is actually this field, which is what gives particles spin. Spin is basically a quantized motion in 1 dimension and the dirac field is a zero spin scalar field with imaginary mass. It has translational symmetry with the higgs field in the same way that real numbers and imaginary numbers have translational symmetry on a number line, and due to this it is a slower than light version of imaginary mass which does not violate causality. Basically from the perspective of an imaginary mass field our real mass field would appear to have imaginary mass and vice versa. Which implies that black holes, the universe, and even particles all have complex mass. (solving the large electron problem for kaluza klein theory and the gap problem for yang mills theory) But dirac field interactions are interesting as they behave in a soliton like manner and that not only is electromagnetism and gravity unified under this model (meaning that all electroweak symmetry interactions are just products of gravity and the topology of space) but that magnetism is basically the warping of the dirac field itself and behaves in a way that we can attribute to current virtual particle speculation. These 1D interactions are why magnetic field lines appear to expend no energy until they make contact, and why virtual particles can seemingly be emitted from a source with no loss in energy until they make contact. Because there are no virtual particles at all. This is just electromagnetism behaving in 1D where it can't spread out over an area and does not obey the inverse square law. Instead it creates these soliton like feedback loops that appear to lose no energy.

  • @sheepwshotguns42
    @sheepwshotguns42 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i NEED that video on how quantum fields interact

  • @jairovanegas8856
    @jairovanegas8856 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dr. Don, why do you need so many fields, it's sounding like a Field Zoo, why not just a single field, the spacetime field, that behaves/vibrates as needed? Great video.

  • @ManyHeavens42
    @ManyHeavens42 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    almost figured it out I need a couple more Up Quart's

  • @bandongogogo
    @bandongogogo 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ok. It's time to catch up with several months of "farming chapters" from Fermilab =)
    Cheers Dr. Don!

  • @debrainwasher
    @debrainwasher 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Everybody can make the noise of virtual particles audible. The only thing it takes is an operational amplifier (OPAMP), connected to a positive/negative power supply, (e.g. two 9V-Batteries in series) connect the positive input to GND, solder a resistor of about 470kOhm to 1MOhm between the output and the negative input and place a low voltage (6.3…10VDC, 10…100µF) tantal-, or MLCC-capacitor between GND and the negative input. Connect the output and GND to the line-input of a computer. You will hear a 1/f-noise in the speaker as the result of virtual charged particles banging the capacitor's dielectric causing tiny electrical charge changes. The spectrum strictly follows the Heisenberg inequation, as shown in the video. And no, this is not kB·T·R-noise, because neither the amplitude, nor the frequency distribution changes when the capacitor is placed within liquid nitrogen or even liquid helium, because this *is* the noise of quantum vacuum fluctuactions.

  • @maxp3141
    @maxp3141 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’ve heard the story that the Casimir effect was originally computed using van der Waals forces and only later someone pointed out that you get the same result using virtual particle hypothesis. Also afaict the virtual particles arise mostly only in the pertubative calculations from qft, which at least for me, cannot be considered a fundamental aspect of the theory (as they completely break down for strong coupling). The field itself can be measured, which means that in some sense you are measuring virtual particles. Also the fact that you can find weird things inside a proton or neutron speaks in favor of “virtual particles”, but I think in those cases we are actually colliding against on-shell particles.

  • @kapoioBCS
    @kapoioBCS 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would love to see a video about ghost particles and gauge fixing 😉

  • @fixminer9797
    @fixminer9797 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Excellent video!
    I have heard that the fundamental forces are “communicated” through virtual particles. Are these the same kind of virtual particle? Because I don’t see how something that only exists for an instant could, for example, cause one macroscopic magnet to be attracted to another. It seems to me like that would imply a constant stream of these particles being emitted by the magnet and travelling macroscopic distances, which seems implausible.

  • @RightAIopen
    @RightAIopen 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Another outstanding video. Please include more math in these videos

  • @Lifeisbutam3m3
    @Lifeisbutam3m3 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very nice homage to Mr. Wilson.

  • @taylorwestmore4664
    @taylorwestmore4664 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Consider the phase conjugation of waves in fields and how it seems to mask the presence of real particles as quantum potentials with no vector components. For example, 2 photons which conjugate perfectly in space and time are everywhere zero amplitude in E and B field, but they cant annihilate because of energy conservation, they must deposit all their energy in the region of constructive interference on the surface of particles or other boundary conditions. You can only ever see such waves under relativistic transformations or with very non-linear boundary conditions. An example of tricky hidden quantum potentials is the electron phase shift caused by the magnetic vector potential around an infinite solenoid. The casimir effect is another. The Stark shift is yet another effect attributed to virtual positrons caused by vacuum polarization around electrons in atomic nuclei.
    Anapole antenna also does something weird. Anapoles are known as zero pole antenna, they emit radio waves together in pairs in order suppress the far field radiation completely and become perfect absorbers. The pairs of photons cancel the E and B fields but this creates non-zero vacuum expactation value for the
    propogating quantum potentials (Phi the electric scalar potential and A the magnetic vector potential). The 2 photons are copropogating but in perfect destructive interference, so all the photon energy is deposited in the anapole antenna near field where constructive interference occurs. But this implies that quantum potentials can be used to beam power in ways that mask the power flux by phase conjugation. 4-wave mixing and 8-wave mixing are the basis for many futuristic technologies that manipulate the light-matter interaction.

  • @DD-ze7qm
    @DD-ze7qm 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is there only one unifying field with different types of vibrations accounting for the many types of particles and interactions?
    To extend the metaphor- the guitar string induces different and varied notes in the air that are travel differently at different pressures and temperatures in the air in a room through the breeze from a window from a storm brewing outside to a tornado down the street to a hurricane seen from above to a thin skin of air enveloping out planet. The effects of the elastic medium of air, from cavitation bubble to supersonic heating, from music to thunder are related by medium. Is there a common medium at quantum scales that relates all things?

  • @BlueArcStreaming
    @BlueArcStreaming 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Deeply fascinating, and excellent explanations. More questions, we can say - What is a field? And, What is a vibration? (Really, what causes it, and what is a field in reality outside of our mathematics?)
    Classically we have real empty space, quantum we have fields - where is the merging of these realities?
    The field that strikes me is the photon field. Light is endlessly mysterious.

    • @darrennew8211
      @darrennew8211 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's my question. "vibrations in a field" really don't say anything except what the math says. There's no underlying explanation. You're talking about the way you calculate the theory as being the thing that is out there causing that. Maybe Tegmark is right, though.

    • @michaelsommers2356
      @michaelsommers2356 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@darrennew8211 The job of physics is to make mathematical models of the physical world, and to test those models with experiments. It is not to find out what is "really" out there. That question makes no sense, if you think about it. Trying to figure out what is "really" going on is a sure route to confusion, because such an explanation would have to be in terms of things we are already familiar with, and the quantum world is fundamentally unlike our macroscopic world.

    • @darrennew8211
      @darrennew8211 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@michaelsommers2356 Right. That's the "shut up and calculate" school of thought. At every point in science before that, we were trying to figure out what was *really* going on. We didn't stop at the formulae for thermodynamics, or chemistry. We worked our way down to the atomic motions, then the quantum formulae.
      My point is more that everyone talks about the "fields" and "vibrations" as if they're what's actually out there. Popular videos don't say "we measure a field of measurements, and when we measure something that looks like a wave in the field, we find something that behaves like an electron." They say "the electron is a vibration in the field." It's misleading, like the field is actually a thing there.

    • @fermilab
      @fermilab  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Great question! From Dr. Don: Precisely what a field is is a tricky thing to imagine. It’s a uniform and pervasive energy. Because it is uniform, it cannot do anything. It’s like an infinite plane of the same altitude. If you put a ball on that plane, it won’t move, so whether it’s there or not is irrelevant. Vibrations are local variations in the field strength, likes bumps and valleys in that uniform plane.

    • @michaelsommers2356
      @michaelsommers2356 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@fermilab I would disagree that fields are energy, and that they are necessarily uniform.

  • @Dvpainter
    @Dvpainter 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    For a long time now my thought has been that they're just crests and troughs of transient waves scattered throughout the universe

    • @Dvpainter
      @Dvpainter 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It would just look like random static from a god's view

    • @joncarlson890
      @joncarlson890 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      yes. my thought was that it is similar to rogue waves.

  • @TheyCallMeNewb
    @TheyCallMeNewb 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Casimir effect in a nutshell. Also, the ultimate opening titles!

  • @nyamsurenganbileg1777
    @nyamsurenganbileg1777 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank yiu❤❤❤

  • @Matt23488
    @Matt23488 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do you have videos on gauge theory gravity? I can't seem to find any and I think that would be a good topic. Geometric Algebra I think is the tool we need to solve quantum gravity

  • @sizu257
    @sizu257 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We have it so wrong... Please someone change Einstein's postulate from "Constancy of speed of light." to "Constancy of space-time stretchiness/expansion.". The photons are not moving in the system, their velocity is 0 not C. Instead, space-time stretches at C in all directions from a given point. Mass velocity relative to space-time is C and I can prove it! So we are at rest in our inertial frame, in this frame our momentum is p=mc and E=pc, and you can try it, is equivalent to E=mc^2. This proves that mass velocity relative to space-time is C, but not only that. Gravity is space-time flow at C towards mass, and space-time energy density increases towards mass by the inverse square law. When you stand still on Earth, not only that the space-time in the whole universe exert a pressure on your atoms, but space-time passes through you at the speed of light with enough energy density required to give Earth its actual mass. 99.99% of mass is given by space-time. This explains G force, rest mass energy, inertia, photon time, singularity, and much more. Not only that, but E from E=mc^2 is not just potential energy, but an exchange of KE experienced by a moving observer between a stationary observer and space-time. There are no particles and antiparticles in space vacuum, and the fluctuations are nothing out of the ordinary. All that happens is space-time stretches at C and the energy density of space-time increases by inverse square law towards mass. Fluctuations appear because masses are in motion and their mass distribution is not exactly equal everywhere.

  • @Chazd1949
    @Chazd1949 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    QFT seems to make so much sense of the subatomic phenomena. Other than string theory - which has been generally abandoned - one might wonder what might tun up to replace QFT.

  • @osricwolfing4553
    @osricwolfing4553 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have a hypothesis that virtual particles' behavior is part of the explanation for gravity. I won't spell it out here, but the keywords are compressed energy, equilibrium, entropy, and how matter travels across "empty" space. It does not involve gravitons but is somewhat analogous to magnetism.

    • @DrDeuteron
      @DrDeuteron 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      matter doesn't travel across empty space--relativity says moving wrt to space is a meaningless concept.

  • @Ninjahat
    @Ninjahat 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I only come here for Don's content... he is strong in the physics 💪

  • @binglefish_6742
    @binglefish_6742 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How do the QED field(s) relate to the classical electromagnetic field ?

  • @Musi_012
    @Musi_012 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why are these uploads times so perfectly on what I’m asking myself? Idk but thanks anyway. Maybe my brain sends waves to make the action field fluctuate which makes you guys upload exactly what I think about, or something like that 😅

  • @kevintedder4202
    @kevintedder4202 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thx for an interesting explanation.
    So when one of these VP's falls beyond the event horizon how does it communicate with its partner across the EH to tell it to become real and carry away Mass?
    Logically the VP that falls into the BH must, itself, become real in some sense. Therefore it must have properties that add to the BH. So how does the BH evaporate?

  • @x19man1
    @x19man1 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What do we know about the energies and masses of virtual particles ? Those with mass must interact gravitationally (obviously very weakly, but there are a lot of them) with other particles. If only measurements are real, what have we measured about virtual particles ?

  • @Ludak021
    @Ludak021 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The most mind boggling thing is the quantum entanglement. Not the idea of it, but the proof of it. The thing about particles appearing for a moment is due to our shortcomings. There could be many things happening that we can't yet conceive let alone measure and prove. And we can't measure anything moving faster than the speed of light. Which brings me back to the quantum entanglement.

  • @andrekz9138
    @andrekz9138 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    QFT is so cool, imo. Particles being concentrated perturbations in an expansive field just clicks.

  • @olivierroy1301
    @olivierroy1301 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice video.

  • @betaneptune
    @betaneptune 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can you tell us more about just what a field is? I take it that it's basically a number assigned to each point in space, and a vibration is those numbers oscillating in certain spots, which gives a particle. Is that right? And then the vector fields, perhaps for particles with finite spin?