The Most Nerfed Attacks in Pokemon History
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I will never forgive Smeargle for what it did to Darkrai
seriously, just making the move ONLY useable by Darkrai was enough of a nerf to the move, gutting it's accuracy down to 50% was just overkill
@bulborb8756 it's not like they didn't do that for other moves in the future.
Same, I hate that thing.
I blame the devs for choosing to nerf Dark Void so much instead of just blocking Smeargle from Sketching it.
Smeargle 1v1d darkrai and solo’d him, put respect on his name
Darkrai deserves justice. Smeargle stole its signature move, got it nerfed into the ground, and then lost the ability to learn it. If the root of the issue can no longer use dark void, then why keep it in such a nerfed state? It's not like Darkrai's gonna be allowed into competitive any time soon.
I hope they fix this considering how many people think this nerf is rightfully stupid.
Why nerf the accuracy if making smeargle not able to use the move was all they had to do and nothing extra?
Also it's lost lame that a signature move... is now worse than the normal Hypnosis
@THGMR-ox7sd Probably because they noticed that the move by itself it's kind of dumb
Also darkrai wont be uber considering what exist now.
Id even argue it goes straight to OU BL solelely because of Darkvoid
No he didn't. Sleep has no place in competitive and idiots who abuse sleep RNG have no place in competitve. Learn to play.
I think what they should’ve done to nerf Dark Void would’ve been that it keeps the 80% Accuracy, it just has its Accuracy halved if used by any Pokemon that isn’t Darkrai like Smeargle. That would’ve made Smeargle less of a problem while not screwing over Darkrai
i dunno, i think making the move only useable by Darkrai is the best change to the move so that Smeargle can't abuse it
@ I mean halving the accuracy when used by Smeargle means its 40% Accurate meaning it might as well be unusable
Smeargle shouldn't be able to use signature moves.
Or just.....make it so Smeargle can't sketch it like they already did anyways and then just leave it at that lol. Darkrai isn't even legal and never has been in vgc so it was meaningless to lower the accuracy that much, or at all, after removing sketch allowing to sketch it.
@@misterzygarde6431
Doubles - 40% Accuracy Dark Void
20% chance to sleep both
22% chance to hit 1 but miss the 2nd
22% chance to miss 1 but hit the 2nd
36% chance to do nothing
50% Accuracy Dark Void
25% chance to sleep both
25% chance to hit 1 but miss the 2nd
25% chance to miss 1 but hit the 2nd
25% chance to do nothing
80% Accuracy Dark Void
64% chance to sleep both
16% chance to hit 1 but miss the 2nd
16% chance to miss 1 but hit the 2nd
4% chance to do nothing
Constrict had to be nerfed, too OP.
Surging Strikes though, is totally fair and balanced /s
Crazy how broken Wrap was but how terrible Constrict has always been 😂
What about thunder wave. It went from 100% accurate to 90% accurate, and electric types can’t be paralyzed.
Thunder wave should have perfect accuracy on Electric types - just like Toxic on Poison mons!
Electric types being immune to paralysis is so dumb. Like I get making it so they can't get paralyzed by electric moves, but being immune to it through like Body Slam or Stun Spore is stupid.
5:00 it only was in gen 4, it can still miss in gen 3
Just about to comment this lol
0:07 god I'm immature but that made me so weak
4:58 Just a slight correction, while Hail was introduced in generation 3 it wouldn’t be until Gen 4 that blizzard was a guaranteed hit.
Darkrai is still paying for smeargle’s sins, but the good news is Legends Arceus changed it to 90% and made it lower defenses. So they haven’t forgotten about poor darkrai
That's mainly to make up for sleep being nerfed into pseudo-paralysis in that game and for Dark Void only affecting a single target as well.
I do hope they keep some of the changes come Gen 10, but we'll see.
I'm honestly fine with Scald distribution being nerfed, it was really dumb how almost every water type could learn this move (aside from pyukumuku who's a gimmick and water/ice types cause of their ice typing), and frankly i just avoided using the move as i found it was just too good.
Another move disruption nerf im fine with was Toxic's, it just never made sense to me why this was ever a universal TM, but now starting in BDSP where it's almost exclusively learned by poison types, it makes far more sense since it's just them using some kind of venom...plus the non-poisons who still get it at least make some logical sense like with vespiquen (bee stings), quagsire (some kind of poisonous slime) and mandibuzz (noxious bile)
Likewise, Scald was one of if not the best spammable move around because of the massive burn chance it has. It’s a part of why Water types were such a strong type, being able to cripple Mons while dealing alot of damage all at once is huge.
Toxic has always been a weird one, because it always came off like every Pokémon available was poisonous in some way. While it does suck that alot of walls lost something to help force an opponent out, the addition of Body press made up for it in spades
@@Castersvarog yeah toxic was like the best status move i the game...
@@Castersvarog Toxic is poop!
I'm honestly surprised that hidden power wasn't brought up anywhere in this video. It went from being a move that could be taught to any Pokémon that could use a TM to becoming exclusive to Unown starting in bdsp, to then having said exclusive move in Legends: Arceus essentially be treated mechanically like a diet version of the move judgment.
Darkri just lying in it's bed remembering the good old days when it used to prank Pikachu with nightmares 😂
Smeargle to Darkrai
''We do a little trolling''
*Gets Darkai signature move nerfed to the point its useless*
I never had strong feelings towards Smeargle
Until it got Dark void, the signature move of my favourite mythical, nerfed into the ground
NOW I DESPISE IT
7:40 GYATTTTTTTT
King's shield and Wicked blow also got a nerf but not very much I guess
King's shield got nerf in gen 8 so it's lower those who hit this move on contact attack 1 stage instead of 2
Wicked blow got a base power nerf in gen 9 from 80 to 75
Im not epileptic but I thought the epilepsy bell was a really nice touch, kudos
You know what would be a great way to celebrate New Years? A review about Pokémon Horizons!
Dark Void definitely got unfairly nerfed, Darkrai's whole gimmick is giving opponents bad dreams so it needs a decently reliable way to put opponents to sleep, at least give it a Ability which increases the accurary to 75%.
Dragon Rage and all those other moves that got nerfed out of existence...
I can't lie, OG Dark Void was so broken, the sleep would literally last forever and you could basically sweep your enemy's team for free
Agree, the move needed to be nerfed but not that bad. I think 65% would be fine, better than Hypnosis but not broken.
@@Arian-JLNo
Dark Void affects all two Pokemon on the opponent's side.
- Even with 50% accuracy, this is a very good move.
Also, accuracy can very well be increased by other things, e.g. items/gravity/etc.
- With 65% accuracy, it would be too strong.
- Dan Darkrai still has 125 speed, which is very fast.
e.g. Toedscruel is only with 100 Speed (+Weezing), can already be a big problem.
Change Dark Void so that it only goes to 1 Pokemon and you can only use it when no Pokemon are sleeping.
+ 100% accuracy.
- You could change it so that it doesn't break in VGC.
@@danielbischoff133 Or.... you could just have the "only Darkrai can use this move" thing since Darkrai isn't legal in VGC due to being a mythical while changing absolutely nothing else about the move.
Seriously that's all they needed to do. They didn't need to buff or nerf the accuracy. They don't need to alter the target count. They don't need to force it to have a built in sleep clause. Just make it so the Pokemon that can't even be used in VGC is the only one that can use the move and suddenly it's no longer a problem for VGC. Simple and easy.
Darkrai is still the favourite Pokemon of a 26 year old me and it's not changing not matter how much it is nerfed 😤😤
I wish they’d change Bad Dreams to have another effect being that it increases the accuracy of sleep inducing moves by 50%.
Dark Void goes up to 75%, Hypnosis goes up to 90%, etc.
And yes, I know that those accuracies are insane for sleep moves and maybe the percent increase should be lower. But I feel like Darkrai’s been power crept enough that it’s okay. 125 is not the speed it once was in Gen 4. And Darkrai’s attacking options aren’t that strong. Dark Pulse only has a base power of 80. As does most of its other coverage moves (Psyshock, Shadow Ball, Tera Blast, etc) with some non-STAB options reaching 90 (Psychic, Ice Beam), and then 110 for Thunder and Blizzard if you’re crazy enough.
Compared to other ubers threats and their base 100+ signature moves, it’s barely making a dent. So yeah, I think a higher accuracy on sleep inducing moves is okay for it.
I remember playing Yellow on the VC as an adult and being shocked that my Charizard took super effective damage from an Ice Beam, I was like wait what
I hate how they changed Surf to hit everyone, yet Muddy Water still only hits the opponents,
Great video
Also, why were all those Golem's nicknamed Deidara? 😂
Explosion
Gen 1 trapping moves and Dark Void were bigger nerfs than Hyper Beam imo. Hyper Beam will requires you to have reliable attacks like Body Slam.
Plus objectively speaking, the most nerfed move is Explosion and Self-Destruct. They literally lost effective 250/200 base power respectfully.
I will never forgive what they did to the hyper potion.
Actually, Blizard didn't get the "can't miss in hail" buff until Gen 4, not Gen 3.
Sorry, another correction: Blizzard do not is 100% when is Hail in gen3. 😅
9:11 hey JPR! just wanted to let you know, its probably pronounced 'Sinistea' (SIH-nis-tee) like tea ya know? ☕️
also amazing video once again! keep going 😊
Wait...I thought blizzard's perfect accuracy in hail was added in gen 4...
Darkrai must hate smeargle😭
Just smth to note, blizzard only bypasses accuracy during hail starting from gen 4, not sure if it still bypasses accuracy from gen 6 onwards
2:19 classic gen 2 competitive
Just a correction: Traps moves do allow to switch in Gen 1. They just don't allow to move.
Just some feedback your being being pretty lose with the term nurf. There is a difference between something getting power creeped by new mechanics or move and it being "nurfed" something bring nurfed implies a targeted change was made to reduce something that was powerful due to improper implementation, bugs, or simple lack of foresight.
It is also fairly easy to find knowledge that the Hyperbeam not recharging after a KO in gen 1 was a scripting error due to how text is prioritized and sequened.
Doing that extra bit of research for your videos and putting in more effort is what sets the higher quality content creators apart from creators who just re iterate or share information that is fairly basic.
I think your editing, visual aids. Audio quality are all quite good and I see potential for you to grow if you just got a bit farther with the research for you scripts :)
Thank you for pronouncing it correctly 9:09
I thought it was Rai-koo
Say it with me now. Dark void not only did it hurt to have it solely but surely turn into one of the worst signature moves for an event Pokémon. But considering it was my favorite Pokémon of all time and the one I had for the longest time was given to me as a Christmas present by one of my closest Pokémon friends and someone who really helped me appreciate the series. TLDR it's Dark void because personal and sentimental reasons ruined my favorite Pokémon who is the holder of set move
That's simply not true.
Dark Void is still one of the best signature moves in VGC.
- You'll see that in the final VGC rules competition.
- Mysterious Pokemon are also allowed in the final VGC rules contest.
Dark Void goes to all two Pokemon on the opponent's side.
- Even with 50% accuracy, this is a very good move.
Also, the accuracy can very well be increased by other things, e.g. items/gravity/etc.
- With 80% accuracy, this would be the best move in the game = OP
Prime Cresselia: I’m the best pokemon of all time
Prime Incineroar: No obviously I am
Prime Smeargle: 😈
What's funny about Dark Void is that its nerf indirectly led to the ban of sleep moves in Gen 9. Darkrai finally fell to OU this gen partially due to how bad Dark Void is nowadays (and Gen 9 powercreep, what else is new?), and it's been terrorizing the tier with Hypnosis.
Removing toxic from VGC in gen 8 was great
No thunder wave?
Leaving work at 5pm on a Friday night hearing good morning everyone goooooood morning
Loaded dice Spore Void
Having your move nerfed because someone else was abusing it was wild. 😭
Not allowing Smeargle to use Dark Void was already enough. 😭
Really watched they brought back the 80% Dark Void and giving back Gengar levitate!
I actually miss Dark Void on Smeargle. Then again, that’s part of the reason why it got banned in the first place lol
Mate forgot another distribution nerf! Knock Off!
Love Sleep Talk
Gamefreak nerfing Pokémon, moves and abilities is like that stickman meme "STOP HAVING FUN!!"
Good morning everybody good morning
You can go to hell in particularly for putting spaces at the bottom of the video that look like the TH-cam version of where you're going to pick in the video but they're not there. You just put them there for no reason other than the troll fee.
13:35
And I still want a nerf on Spore and a buff to Dark Void.
dark void and hyper beam i would say are some of the biggest nerfs along with explosion for sure only other thing i would say is a strong and noticeable nerf is scald distribution. Honorable mention is how Raging bolt became the only pokemon to get rising voltage in gen 9
paralyze?
Great video!
13:38 Or better yet: Follow what Pokémon Legends Arceus did and have Dark Void lower Darkrai's defensive stats by one stage.
Probably not worthy of the list but Hydro Pump's nerf is the one that always affects me the most. I do mono-water type runs almost exclusively and you really feel how bad it was nerfed some times, making Surf or Scald vastly superior options most of the time.
Thumbnail on point lol😂
None of tis beat feraligatr's ass nerf frm gen 5 to 6🥸
Darkai's nerf will never NOT piss me off. It's like Gen 9's sleep ban - It's so unnecessary.
It would be nice if we could some of these moves back in a slightly adjusted way
Like for example a 120 or 130 move which needs recharging uless it knocked something out, a ice move which can break through protect, or a explosive move with only like 130 or so power which halves defenses (or reduces defense by 2 stages) before doing damage
nerf
Hyperbeam was such a cool idea.
I'll never be over how dirty Darkrai was done. It's tied with Meloetta as my favorite Pokemon of all time, and I loved playing Dark Void sweep. Sure, it wasn't VGC legal, but it was fun in random online battles.
Ah, Hyper Beam. One of the most awesome looking moves of all time, and totally worthless.
At least outside romhacks that have abilities like Rampage, which functionally bring back gen 1 Hyper Beam and apply it to all recharge moves.
In light of all those, what if the chance to Frostbite from moves like Ice Beam & Blizzard was to be 30% in Snow or Hail while keeping 10% to Freeze, or if Chilling Water kept its Attack drop aftermath with a 30% chance to Frostbite added like a counterpart to Scald?
Isn’t Frostbite PLA exclusive?
@YourLocalZoroark for now, but maybe not for much longer. If only the PLA statuses could cobestand/coexist with the Freeze & Sleep ones in ways like how Poisoned & Badly Poisoned do in coming games, but who knows if that ever would come to pass?
Fun fact if metronome selects Dark Void the move will fail It happen in gen 7 when battling lusamine her clefable copied it with metronome its said the pokemon could not use the move
I cannot believe you didn’t mention Razor winds super impactful nerf of removing it’s high crit in gen 3
Horrible video
I go out of my way to murk wild Smeargle in every game they appear in as revenge for what they did to my glorious, edgy, misunderstood king Darkrai
You see a beagle summoning two black holes at a time in the street (I'm talking real life). Do you get mad at the dog... Or do you cry out for the twisted creator that made him this way?
At least they should make the Hyper Beam, Giga Impact and their variants be like Gigaton Hammer and Blood Moon, moves that are powerful but you can't use the same move 2 times in a row instead of the user needing to recharge next turn.
And nerfing Dark Void's accuracy was unnecessary, only nerfing to make only Darkrai can use the move it's more than enough.
i agree with the Dark Void opinion massively, that accuracy nerf was unnecessary, just making it only useable by Darkrai was all they had to do, I do hope one day they will revert the accuracy back to 80% but keep the ability where it can only be used by the nightmare himself
GameFreak just hates Ice type.
I love Ice pokemon but its a disgrace how many weaknesses and resistances it has
3:00 - Oh god... just look at those graphics. This is the highest grossing IP in the world, and every time I see Scarlet & Violet, I'm reminded of how embarrassingly ugly it is.
Even funnier, the next clip goes back to N64 era Pokemon Stadium, and the game looks more detailed than games from 20 years later... Only difference is the Pokemon are more blocky, but at least it looks like effort was put into it.
Justice for Darkrai!
I think signature moves or sparsely distributed moves should never be nerfed. I mean, Dark Void is one of THE reasons why Darkrai was so great. And to think mons like Zacian existed after they nerfed him.
All they had to do was Smeargle being unable to copy signature attacks
The fact that S/V automatically removes movesets just for brining a pokemon into the game pissed me off.
No, i totally didnt want to keep thst V create on my event rayquaza with no way to get it back... seriously this decision was FKed.
Thank you so much for the trigger warning.