Full Roban EC130 800 RC Helicopter Build Series: Part 1 - Unboxing: th-cam.com/video/3qM_1fg9110/w-d-xo.html Part 2 - Component Selection: th-cam.com/video/ycq4jW7JVao/w-d-xo.html Part 3 - Building Mechanics, Setup & Test Flight: th-cam.com/video/eDRr7n3Zq4g/w-d-xo.html Part 4 - Fitting Mechanics & Maiden Flight: th-cam.com/video/NocHFV8f90c/w-d-xo.html Part 5 - Scale Details & First Full Flight: th-cam.com/video/1Grlqsldf6M/w-d-xo.html Part 6 - Scale Pilot & Dialed In Flight : th-cam.com/video/axMc8rBeIQs/w-d-xo.html
Just Awesome!! Makes me want to go out and practice some more. and more. That's the first time I've seen video from inside a cockpit! And the turning head is the icing on the cake! Well done, John!!!
Another great video from the Big Boy having fun like a kid 🤣 After 30 years of plastic modeling -thanks to- because of you I have entered the RC world a couple of days ago, with the Eachine E119. I don't have the budget for anything more expensive but I am extremely satisfied with this little hummingbird.
John, thanks for sharing this video! The on-board footage was a lot of fun to watch. I am surprised by your scale pilot solution and how incredibly well that worked out! Thanks for sharing that too. Nice to know that your first fenestron build worked out so well. I completed my first fenestron build last year. A Roban EC 135 meant for trex 500 mechanics. I fitted an electric brushless motor (and drone prop) inside the fenestron housing. Since I was using no tailboom, I completely ditched the trex 500 mech and utilized an ALZRC X360 6s mech, mounted with the tailboom exit towards the front (mounted backwards). Used 3S batteries and fitted the Goblin 420 rotor blades (they fit the X360 rotorhead just fine). Some creative mixing and some persistense were required, but it turned out better than I had expected. The whole thing, ready to fly, weighs a bit less than my stock Trex 500 ready to fly. I would not have had the courage to tackle scale builds if it wasn't for your ebooks, your youtube channel and your website. Many many thanks for helping me to greatly enjoy this amazing hobby! Btw, my Phoenixtech-widened trex 600 esp is still going strong, thanks in no small part to all the parts I purchased from your website. I love that heli. Best regards from Brasilia, Brazil.
Well done John. Your flying is so scale like and smooth which people like to see. Oh yes, while landing at the end of the video, the pilots head was turning. Loved that. Seemed like she was watching the instruments then looking out at the landing spot in awareness of the terrain.
Thanks for sharing the video John. Lovely looking Heli superb flying and a back drop to die for. Then to top it all of superb cockpit footage you really do think you are on board.
Excellent video. Beautiful helicopter and outstanding scale flying. Watching 3D flying is interesting but it is headache inducing 🙂. On the other hand, scale flying is just wonderful to watch. Thank you for making the video, John.
Hi Nathan, that's cool. I've never been close to full size machine sporting a feny, so it's interesting to hear they are similar in sound - thanks for sharing.
Hello again John! I didn't want to put this question here, but my thinking behind it, was this is your latest video. Therefore, you might be more apt to see it. You might remember me, you might not. I purchased your Ebooks on flying Helicopters, and was told by someone on RCGroups to follow your course on how to fly from beginner, a few years ago. It's a great program! I'm well into CP's now, and I can't tell you how many crashes and repairs I've made getting here, but, I'm here. My problem is, "Swashplate Leveling". I have the levelers, for each Heli's I own, but while I have most of it figured out, including the Zip Tie method, nobody on TH-cam seems to have a video, that explains, from start to finish, exactly how to do it. As I said, it can do it, but, I think I could do it better, if someone LIKE YOU, made a video, of exactly how to do it, from the radio, to the linkage adjustments, and making things as close to a perfect level, with minimal trim input when doing the trim flight test. Any thoughts? Might you do a video on this in the future? Thank you.
Howdy, Not sure what more I could cover that I don't already show in detail in my Swashplate Setup & Leveling eBook. The 3 basic steps are followed regardless: 1. Get the best servo arm center position by spline placement first. 2. Then level the servo arm electronically through the FBL system or radio (stabilization system dependent ). 3. Mechanically level the swash with pushrod adjustment. I do show these three primary & fundamental steps in a video I did a while back on setting up an H1 system if you did want to see them being performed on a helicopter in a video: th-cam.com/video/_WCnYritAXI/w-d-xo.html The swash leveling portion starts at time index 13.12. If you have anything specifically you want cleared up that is in the swash ebook you don't understand, as stated in the ebooks, it's always best to contact me through my website because as you correctly pointed out, I don't see all youtube comments, but I always check every single email I get on my website daily.
I really love the onboard footage with the turning pilots head when you are flying turns!! Your comment made my day: "Jane you better stop this pirouettes, or you loose your lunch" Very impressive is the fenestron tail rotor! And you are flying in a beautiful surrounding, the mountains, the forrest in beginning of autumn. Fantastic! Great Video!
Hey John,hope you are doing well and that big EC130 is flying like a dream. Just wanted to drop by and say hello and that I/we miss your helicopter video's and all other things RC. You are missed sir. Take Care. Keith
Thanks for the kind feedback Keith. MAAC (model aeronautics association of Canada) lost their Transport Canada exemptions last month. It's a dark time for RC aviation in Canada right now. I have as a result also lost my flying field at our little airport that I, our zone director and the airport operator worked so hard to establish back in 2021. As it sands right now with all the turmoil between MAAC, it's members, and Transport Canada, no idea if we (our club and many others operating out of small airfields) might be able to get them back. If we can't, I'll be forced to give up the hobby like so many others are being forced to right now. RC aviation is not the fun it was. Mabey I should change the name of my website from RC Helicopter Fun, to RC Helicopter Misery. 🤔 Channel will likely suffer. Already had to turn down two cool helis for reviewing once spring weather arrives. Have an OMP M2 EVO here to review, but looks I'll be sending it back to OMP now. We will see.
@@Rchelicopterfun Aww man Jon that really sucks. I don't understand WTF people have to meddle in things that aren't broke. I'm so sick of these people here in the states and obviously in Canada, ruining peoples lives for their cause, If you like it do it, but don't ruin my life or force crap down my throat because you don't like what I do and vice versa. I wish you the very best of luck Jon and I hope ya'll get things worked out, it sure would be a hard loss to lose you and your knowledgable experience. I appreciate all you've done to help us beginners out and those that had a problem they couldn't solve without your help and guidance. Keep us updated on things. Keith
Stunning Mr Salt !!! Wow !!! Looks soooo realistic and the pilot....I swear she looked at me when she turned her head to the right and we could see her eyes behind the visor at 6:20 !!!! Very,very well done !! And yes, please try to film a flight with revised lighting at dusk ....
Yep, Motion RC don't get many in and they sell out fast! Covid delays/shortages have only made it worse; guessing Roban's factory production has slowed substantially. I created a stock notification alert at Motion RC for this specific EC130 version last February, they finally showed up in May and had sold out in a couple weeks. Motion RC seems to get a couple big Roban kit stock orders a year and my guess is another stock order will arrive before the end of November for the holiday shopping season, not to mention it has been almost 6 months since the last one. Best to contact Motion RC directly to confirm.
Hey John. Nice aircraft. My EC-130 didn’t have such good luck. My tail exploded, but I think my rotor rpm was too high. I used a Kontronik Kosmik, but I think the my ESC wasn’t setup correctly at spool up. I’m building a Blackhawk and can’t find the right materials for the pilot. Would you be willing to build a couple of the bodies for price to help me along? I also have an EC-135 that I’ve been sitting on for years because the first Roban Fenestron tails weren’t effective for the size and weight of the aircraft. Unfortunately, they don’t sell the units separately.
No idea on the 500e. As shown on this EC130 in the build video (th-cam.com/video/NocHFV8f90c/w-d-xo.html) two separate 6S packs must be used to get as much mass forward of the mast in the space allowed under the back seat platform to get the CG close to the mark.
Range is dictated by VLOS (visual line of sight). You can only fly a radio controlled helicopter (or airplane) as far out as you can see it well enough to maintain flight control. The larger the model, the better the lighting, and the better your eyesight the further away from your position you can go. In short, you'll lose practical visual distance long before radio frequency distance. Battery life is dependent on your setup & how well you manage your collective and cyclic energy. This video shows a full flight (around 7 minutes) with my setup and scale flying style.
I personally find both are equally very reliable. I just prefer the Horus for several reasons with all my larger aircraft. Primary one being having the upper screen, as I do look at the screen much more often while flying bigger aircraft than when I fly the smaller stuff.
Like all electric collective pitch RC helicopters flying time is dependent on setup, head speed, battery capacity, flying style, how well you manage your collective and cyclic energy, to name the main variables (there are more). With my flying style, setup, head RPM, battery capacity etc. I get a solid 7:30 to 8:00 minutes not taking the LiPo's lower than a 75% discharged state. I could likely push it to 8:30, even 9:00 minutes, but I like keeping my LiPo's happy & healthy. 🙂
Suggest viewing the video @1:14. As stated... G.I. Jane is 1/6 scale, however that is slightly too large for the Roban EC130. The custom printed torso and legs would bring her closer to 1/7 scale albeit with fairly short legs.
Full Roban EC130 800 RC Helicopter Build Series:
Part 1 - Unboxing: th-cam.com/video/3qM_1fg9110/w-d-xo.html
Part 2 - Component Selection: th-cam.com/video/ycq4jW7JVao/w-d-xo.html
Part 3 - Building Mechanics, Setup & Test Flight: th-cam.com/video/eDRr7n3Zq4g/w-d-xo.html
Part 4 - Fitting Mechanics & Maiden Flight: th-cam.com/video/NocHFV8f90c/w-d-xo.html
Part 5 - Scale Details & First Full Flight: th-cam.com/video/1Grlqsldf6M/w-d-xo.html
Part 6 - Scale Pilot & Dialed In Flight : th-cam.com/video/axMc8rBeIQs/w-d-xo.html
That interior footage with the pilots head moving is fantastic, so realistic 😄, great stuff. 👍
Just Awesome!! Makes me want to go out and practice some more. and more. That's the first time I've seen video from inside a cockpit! And the turning head is the icing on the cake! Well done, John!!!
Glad you liked it Mark - happy flights 👍
VERY VERY NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Looks like a real one. Congrates.
Thanks & cheers 🙂
I feel like riding a real heli w all the shakiness and vibrations 👍👍👍👍👍
Another great video from the Big Boy having fun like a kid 🤣 After 30 years of plastic modeling -thanks to- because of you I have entered the RC world a couple of days ago, with the Eachine E119. I don't have the budget for anything more expensive but I am extremely satisfied with this little hummingbird.
Glad to hear you're enjoying the hobby so far 👍
I love how this chopper looks in the air, very authentic! It seems that your lady pilot likes flying it too. 🙂
😄👍
Awesome job John!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You're the man!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Glad you enjoyed the heli flight James
Very nice model.
This never gets old my friend, thanks John 👍😁
Thanks back Dave 👍
John, thanks for sharing this video! The on-board footage was a lot of fun to watch. I am surprised by your scale pilot solution and how incredibly well that worked out! Thanks for sharing that too. Nice to know that your first fenestron build worked out so well. I completed my first fenestron build last year. A Roban EC 135 meant for trex 500 mechanics. I fitted an electric brushless motor (and drone prop) inside the fenestron housing. Since I was using no tailboom, I completely ditched the trex 500 mech and utilized an ALZRC X360 6s mech, mounted with the tailboom exit towards the front (mounted backwards). Used 3S batteries and fitted the Goblin 420 rotor blades (they fit the X360 rotorhead just fine). Some creative mixing and some persistense were required, but it turned out better than I had expected. The whole thing, ready to fly, weighs a bit less than my stock Trex 500 ready to fly. I would not have had the courage to tackle scale builds if it wasn't for your ebooks, your youtube channel and your website. Many many thanks for helping me to greatly enjoy this amazing hobby! Btw, my Phoenixtech-widened trex 600 esp is still going strong, thanks in no small part to all the parts I purchased from your website. I love that heli. Best regards from Brasilia, Brazil.
Well done John. Your flying is so scale like and smooth which people like to see. Oh yes, while landing at the end of the video, the pilots head was turning. Loved that. Seemed like she was watching the instruments then looking out at the landing spot in awareness of the terrain.
Thanks for the view - appreciated👍
The Pilot servo and interior camera is cool.
Beautiful build and flight, thank you
Thank you too
What a beast. Both the pilot and the helicopter 😊
Love the video John. Just getting back into scale helis after about a 10 year hiatus.
Welcome back 👍
The scale pilot is fantastic!
The footage from the cockpit and the head moving really puts you in the back seat, great work 👍❤️
Glad you enjoyed it
Sweet Ride!
🙂👍
putting servo for the pilot is absolutely genius ! love all your videos
Thanks for sharing the video John. Lovely looking Heli superb flying and a back drop to die for. Then to top it all of superb cockpit footage you really do think you are on board.
Thanks for watching - happy flights 👍
Awesome John
Thanks Rob
Excellent video. Beautiful helicopter and outstanding scale flying. Watching 3D flying is interesting but it is headache inducing 🙂. On the other hand, scale flying is just wonderful to watch. Thank you for making the video, John.
Thanks for the visit 🙂
See that great build. Make me think more start a build an AH-64 Apache 700 size.
Magnifique, cela me rapelle lorsque je pilotais un EC 130 jusqu'en 2010...Superbe maquette volante et l'interieur vraiment beau..!
Philippe
Really nice model and flying . Job well done,
Thanks for watching - happy flights 🙂
Been around a few real Fenistrons and it is amazing how similar it sounds.
Very nice, down to the details!
Hi Nathan, that's cool. I've never been close to full size machine sporting a feny, so it's interesting to hear they are similar in sound - thanks for sharing.
That was awesome I loved the footage from inside the cabin that actually put a smile on my face. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it 🙂
Hello again John! I didn't want to put this question here, but my thinking behind it, was this is your latest video. Therefore, you might be more apt to see it. You might remember me, you might not. I purchased your Ebooks on flying Helicopters, and was told by someone on RCGroups to follow your course on how to fly from beginner, a few years ago. It's a great program! I'm well into CP's now, and I can't tell you how many crashes and repairs I've made getting here, but, I'm here. My problem is, "Swashplate Leveling". I have the levelers, for each Heli's I own, but while I have most of it figured out, including the Zip Tie method, nobody on TH-cam seems to have a video, that explains, from start to finish, exactly how to do it. As I said, it can do it, but, I think I could do it better, if someone LIKE YOU, made a video, of exactly how to do it, from the radio, to the linkage adjustments, and making things as close to a perfect level, with minimal trim input when doing the trim flight test. Any thoughts? Might you do a video on this in the future? Thank you.
Howdy, Not sure what more I could cover that I don't already show in detail in my Swashplate Setup & Leveling eBook. The 3 basic steps are followed regardless:
1. Get the best servo arm center position by spline placement first.
2. Then level the servo arm electronically through the FBL system or radio (stabilization system dependent ).
3. Mechanically level the swash with pushrod adjustment.
I do show these three primary & fundamental steps in a video I did a while back on setting up an H1 system if you did want to see them being performed on a helicopter in a video:
th-cam.com/video/_WCnYritAXI/w-d-xo.html
The swash leveling portion starts at time index 13.12.
If you have anything specifically you want cleared up that is in the swash ebook you don't understand, as stated in the ebooks, it's always best to contact me through my website because as you correctly pointed out, I don't see all youtube comments, but I always check every single email I get on my website daily.
GI Jane is doing a great job on flying .
Great stuff, flys great
Thanks 👍
Excellent video! Most scale flyers don't know how to fly like the real one. You do!
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
Unmentioned...nice scale *flying*.
I really love the onboard footage with the turning pilots head when you are flying turns!! Your comment made my day: "Jane you better stop this pirouettes, or you loose your lunch" Very impressive is the fenestron tail rotor! And you are flying in a beautiful surrounding, the mountains, the forrest in beginning of autumn. Fantastic! Great Video!
Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the view 🙂
Really nice video, very scale like flying , nice to see a fenestron that works, love the inside camera view..
Thanks for the video
Thank you too
Very beautiful heli and I love how the pilots head turns . Just awesome thanks for sharing John
Hey Morris - great to hear from you. Glad you enjoyed the flight & happy flights :)
Absolutely stellar model build!
Wow, thanks for the compliment 🙂
John, great build series, can’t wait for the next one.
🙂👍
Just awesome and specially the view from the cockpit 😀
Glad you enjoyed it
Nice! The interior camera... awesome! Very fun to watch.
Glad you liked it
Nice
Pretty awsome.
Thanks for the visit
@@Rchelicopterfun great!!!
Hey John,hope you are doing well and that big EC130 is flying like a dream. Just wanted to drop by and say hello and that I/we miss your helicopter video's and all other things RC. You are missed sir. Take Care. Keith
Thanks for the kind feedback Keith. MAAC (model aeronautics association of Canada) lost their Transport Canada exemptions last month. It's a dark time for RC aviation in Canada right now. I have as a result also lost my flying field at our little airport that I, our zone director and the airport operator worked so hard to establish back in 2021. As it sands right now with all the turmoil between MAAC, it's members, and Transport Canada, no idea if we (our club and many others operating out of small airfields) might be able to get them back. If we can't, I'll be forced to give up the hobby like so many others are being forced to right now. RC aviation is not the fun it was. Mabey I should change the name of my website from RC Helicopter Fun, to RC Helicopter Misery. 🤔 Channel will likely suffer. Already had to turn down two cool helis for reviewing once spring weather arrives. Have an OMP M2 EVO here to review, but looks I'll be sending it back to OMP now. We will see.
@@Rchelicopterfun Aww man Jon that really sucks. I don't understand WTF people have to meddle in things that aren't broke. I'm so sick of these people here in the states and obviously in Canada, ruining peoples lives for their cause, If you like it do it, but don't ruin my life or force crap down my throat because you don't like what I do and vice versa. I wish you the very best of luck Jon and I hope ya'll get things worked out, it sure would be a hard loss to lose you and your knowledgable experience. I appreciate all you've done to help us beginners out and those that had a problem they couldn't solve without your help and guidance. Keep us updated on things. Keith
outstanding as usual and beautiful as well thx John
Thank you too
AWESOME as always John! A very nice bird to fly in deed.❤
Thank you kindly
You never cease to amaze!!!🙌
🙂
Stunning, Sir. !!
Thank you - Cheers
Trulley a great scale flight John, very nice looking in the air. Thanks for the video.
Many thanks
Stunning Mr Salt !!! Wow !!! Looks soooo realistic and the pilot....I swear she looked at me when she turned her head to the right and we could see her eyes behind the visor at 6:20 !!!! Very,very well done !! And yes, please try to film a flight with revised lighting at dusk ....
Many thanks 🙂
I love this! I want one myself! But out of stock still!!
Yep, Motion RC don't get many in and they sell out fast! Covid delays/shortages have only made it worse; guessing Roban's factory production has slowed substantially. I created a stock notification alert at Motion RC for this specific EC130 version last February, they finally showed up in May and had sold out in a couple weeks. Motion RC seems to get a couple big Roban kit stock orders a year and my guess is another stock order will arrive before the end of November for the holiday shopping season, not to mention it has been almost 6 months since the last one. Best to contact Motion RC directly to confirm.
Dang John, Awesome! In my next life I want to live in Canada😂
🙂👍
Fabulous Heli John but the reason for my post is To Wish You and your Family a very Safe and Happy Thanksgiving my friend!!
❤️🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️
Thanks Larry - same to you and yours - *Happy Thanksgiving* 🙂
@@Rchelicopterfun Thank you very much John! That Heli is Gorgeous and that Camera of yours follows it perfectly.
Looking at All the Mountains in the Background, l was just wondering where you were??
THANKS JOHN🇺🇲👍
Robson Valley, BC, Canada
Does Roban still make fuselage kits? Seems like they are always out of stock on motion RC. It makes me weary about parts support if I invest in a kit.
Yes they do. Best to contact Motion with dealer specific stocking questions and ask them why they are out of stock constantly.
@@Rchelicopterfun thank you so much!
Hey John. Nice aircraft. My EC-130 didn’t have such good luck. My tail exploded, but I think my rotor rpm was too high. I used a Kontronik Kosmik, but I think the my ESC wasn’t setup correctly at spool up. I’m building a Blackhawk and can’t find the right materials for the pilot. Would you be willing to build a couple of the bodies for price to help me along?
I also have an EC-135 that I’ve been sitting on for years because the first Roban Fenestron tails weren’t effective for the size and weight of the aircraft. Unfortunately, they don’t sell the units separately.
Nice 👍
Thanks
Wonderfull, i have a Hughes 500e From Roban. A Question- maybe a can mount a 12s Pack with the full Lenght? Thank you
No idea on the 500e. As shown on this EC130 in the build video (th-cam.com/video/NocHFV8f90c/w-d-xo.html) two separate 6S packs must be used to get as much mass forward of the mast in the space allowed under the back seat platform to get the CG close to the mark.
Sweet 👍
Thanks 👍
Hi John, did you end up upgrading the lighting system?
I just replaced the included LED's with 3W LED chips. Made a huge difference.
Hello, I have a ksger air gun to repair. needs the value of resistors R12, R13 and the name, model of LEDs DP, D5
Thanks in advance !
No idea, I'm not KSGER tech support.
Where can your blade holder be found? I've been searching just can't find them for 800 size.
I made it on Tinkercad & 3D printed it out of TPU.
@@Rchelicopterfun I was kinda thinking you made it. Thanks for responding and love the videos especially the ec130 build.
hello John...
can you share the 3D Pilot Body File.... ???
In terms of battery life and distance how far can it go
Range is dictated by VLOS (visual line of sight). You can only fly a radio controlled helicopter (or airplane) as far out as you can see it well enough to maintain flight control. The larger the model, the better the lighting, and the better your eyesight the further away from your position you can go. In short, you'll lose practical visual distance long before radio frequency distance. Battery life is dependent on your setup & how well you manage your collective and cyclic energy. This video shows a full flight (around 7 minutes) with my setup and scale flying style.
Great build! Do you use the Radiomaster Tx16s in this model?
FrSky Hours x12s on all my larger birds.
@@RchelicopterfunFor reliability?
I personally find both are equally very reliable. I just prefer the Horus for several reasons with all my larger aircraft. Primary one being having the upper screen, as I do look at the screen much more often while flying bigger aircraft than when I fly the smaller stuff.
우와! 조종사까지! 정말 멋지잖아! 어디서 구매할 수 있는거야?
Links are in description.
Awesome job
Awesome video as ever! John - check the lighting set videos i just done - particularly Uni-Light!
Thanks! Will do!
If I got into RC aircraft it would be helicopter over the plane but in helicopter I would like to if could have a uh-1 or mi -24
What is flight time with one of these
Like all electric collective pitch RC helicopters flying time is dependent on setup, head speed, battery capacity, flying style, how well you manage your collective and cyclic energy, to name the main variables (there are more). With my flying style, setup, head RPM, battery capacity etc. I get a solid 7:30 to 8:00 minutes not taking the LiPo's lower than a 75% discharged state. I could likely push it to 8:30, even 9:00 minutes, but I like keeping my LiPo's happy & healthy. 🙂
I think you might need to balance your main rooter. Please excuse any misspelling.
Balance is good as is tracking. As stated in the video, camera mount was hanging by a thread.
Hello, what the run time on it ?
I'm getting a safe 8 minutes with the specific 5100 mAh packs I'm using (not taking them past 80%). Depends on flying style & setup of course.
@@Rchelicopterfun thx , I'm in rc tanks but I'm thinking a heli for a long time now , these are looking great and the kits have everything I see
Kamloops?
Valemount
Is your pilot 1/6 or 1/12
Suggest viewing the video @1:14. As stated... G.I. Jane is 1/6 scale, however that is slightly too large for the Roban EC130. The custom printed torso and legs would bring her closer to 1/7 scale albeit with fairly short legs.
and this is the follow on video after I changed the light set: th-cam.com/video/LYOzkYttlro/w-d-xo.html