I got a Starking with their 28,000 bph movement that had that issue once. I've heard others have had it too, sort of like the Miyota stutter on steroids. I think that's one of the reasons that they've recently switched over to Japanese movements in a lot of their newer watches.
As far as I know, Starking uses the same movement in all their watches, which looks like a Chinese dg2813 movement, which is known to be somewhat lacking in quality control and reliability. The Watch Repair Channel did a review and teardown of one of these Starking watches.
What the hell is up with the seconds hand @ 8:02 - watch for a few secs Edit: also @ 9:40 "Smooth high beat -T3" lmao its juttering like the gear lash is a joke Edit: welp he noticed finally 10:10 Was wondering if he would notice
Excellent value for money if you get a good one. The first Starking I purchased was DOA so I returned it and tried my luck again. The second one was great. I gifted it to my brother awhile back and it's still working great and keeping excellent time.
Best part of your review was when you briefly focused on the Diver's clasp on your Marine Master Tuna.😎👍 About 2-3 months ago I actually went online and bought 5 of those clasps to replace the traditional diver clasps on some of my Seiko's.😼
My Starking AM0189 has issues with the movement too. If they take a whack on the side they stop moving and the movement shutters at times as seen in your video. Did a video on this on my channel and it is the same. Thought it might be a sample size of one but now I’m not so sure. Looks like it might be a problem across the brand. It seems common.
@@mrbacchus6127 rather there was something on the (indirectly driven) second hand pinion between the teeth.... it just went somewhere else waiting to cause more problems..... Not complete junk movements (I mean there are worse), just assembled dirty.....
Just a thought/something I noticed.. Where the watch skips, is exactly where you pulled out/tried to pull out, the crown the first time and started trying to change the date window. I wonder if that has something to do with it. I know next to nothing about automatic watches, but do remember something about not setting the day during certain hours. I wonder if you caused the sweep error?
T3, sent it back! You can not be sure if you got the right one. The model #'s are not the same. Don't waste more money. Get a good one first!! THANKS for the Videos. Always great info.
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I noticed that second hand skip while you were praising the smooth sweep. I first thought it was an editing thing.. it's probably caused by some debris or maybe some over lubrication that will work itself out as the gears continue to mesh and spread out the excess lubrication in the movement.
I'm not sure if anyone else has called this out or if you noticed but they sent you a watch with a rose-gold tone seconds hand but the one on Amazon has a blue seconds hand. Which would maybe also explain the difference in ref. number?
In the very end: This is a 50 dollar watch with automatic movement and sapphire crystal, as well as applied indices and a leather strap. Something can not be quite right there :D
Indirect seconds could explain that, but usually those exhibit their stuttering in a variety of positions around the dial, not a fixed one. I had another watch that exhibited something similar, the reason was that second hand was actually bent and touching the minute hand. Watchmaker fixed that for me for not a lot of cash :) But yeah, it is possible that something else is going on with this movement. I wonder how long they would last for with daily wear.
I expecting a cadisen 1032 and don't get to mad but a loreo sub homage from AliExpress. Almost out of curiosity. What do you think about the Seiko 6105 from San Martin? Love the look expecially the bronze case with the green dial.
I was looking at both (Starking AM0184 vs. Cadisen C-1032) and asked Jody from Justonemorewatch which was better since they looked so similar - and he said that the Cadisen is definitely the better watch.
@@karlsenula9495 yeh i think with starking people see hi beat and fall for it but cadisen is clearly a better watch.I bought mine for 57$ if it had seiko logo on it and not cadisen it was a 300$ watch at least.
Did a little Google search...Starking AM0213 is the Skeleton Tourbillon model...looks like they either used the wrong back case or ran out of the AM0239 back case and the worker got lazy, not very surprised from my 20+ years of experience in dealing with local Chinese factories
I have this watch as well. I do not like the crown too as it is too small. My watch do not have your problem but it does stop when I shake it very hard. There is some review about this as well. Could be something to do with the "in house" movement. The model should be AM0239 and my watch caseback did not indicate the model number like yours. By the way, I bought mine on aliexpress. Frankly speaking, I think buying this kind of Chinese made watches depends on your luck because I do not think they have a very good quality control department.
Definitely get another one to see if you get a better movement. Or tell them that one is broken and see if you can return it. See what the return experience would be.
Disappointing example from Starking I would look at getting a refund especially because you've ordered it off Amazon. Great balanced review keep it up!
I have a gold color starking with a gold face (so not this model) and it’s been fine. None of the problems you mentioned here. I’m guessing with such cheap watches that some just don’t work quite right. My starking does have one problem, though, that your watch shares that you didn’t mention: the buckle doesn’t match the watch color! Why are they putting silver colored buckles on gold colored watches??
The seconds hand issues is probably due to indirect seconds design. It can be resolved by adjusting the pressure of the spring which tensions the seconds pinion.
I have two Starking watches but they are a shot in the dark. But for $50 bucks I took the shot. Take a look at the GUANQIN Automatic GJ16034 with the Seiko NH36A movement. Its about $70 on Aliexpress right now. I have one and its a cool purchase for the price.
I've got the AM0184 model and it's got the same shitty crown action. No second hand issues, that seems like something's broken inside in the one you got. Instead, mine's got misaligned hour/minute hands :) I even messaged Starking about it. Their reply was: " hello , dear , the mechanical watch not so precise , it can work normally " :D
It’s a very nice LOOKING watch. Shame about the movement... maybe the moving of the crown did something on the inside? Idk. You should get another one, if you like it.
9:43 “And that seconds hand as it sweeps very smoothly across that date window, you’ll notice it’s moving at a very smooth, hi-beat.” Right in the middle of that sentence, the seconds hand start to go wonky around the 7 hour marker. Very smooth indeed lol. But for 50 bucks, I guess we can’t complain much.
daniel viegas forgive me if I’m incorrect, but I don’t think there’s any brand new Seiko 5 at 50 dollars? I could be wrong. But yeah, I’d rather just sink in a couple of ten dollars to get a new Seiko 5, or just save and get a new G-Shock.
Thanks for the video! As for the watch I think it would be interesting to get another one, and I'm sure Amazon will replace it in a heartbeat. And happy (late) birthday!
Starking has modified a Miyota movement to run at a very high frequency. That skipping should however not change the accuracy of the watch because it is just a „representation“ of the time. The second hand seems to be indirectly driven. I would love to see those Starking watches with lower frequencies because that high frequency simply increases the stress on the movement which will make it break earlier. If the movement breaks however you can replace it easily with a Miyota, so, not a big deal here...
I love this direction that you're going. Even if you had that Director Michael cash you'd proabably still do this Starking review. Speaking of Starking, this one is a disappointment. Everything looked so good. The dial and the rosegold. That caseback and movement as well. I love that logo on the caseback. I still might get one on aliexpress though 🤣
I’ve got the same issues with the one I got, the skip is at 3 o’clock though😅 Also, if I shake it hard enough the hour and minute hands just move around freely. Complete garbage
I got a Loreo that is the same way. Feels like I’m gonna break it when trying to hack. The date click is basically a guess on how far to pull the crown. But it was $60 so can’t complain really. Once set, it runs fine
Okay, how much is the cost of the watch? Right! You get what you pay for, at that price point, that skip won’t bother me, remove the seconds hand if it bothers you and done, no more skipping.
Take a look at the forums and there is a lot of discussion around the stuttering issue and cheap Chinese movements. I think these are based on the DG2813 movements which are incredibly low grade and much like the miyota stuttering, they too suffer from issues with the second hand pinion friction spring. I’ve had 3 starking Watches now and 2/3 were garbage!
If you read thru the starking offerings on Amazon you will see that for $10 more there are a few models that use the NH 36 Seiko movement and those models are very well reviewed positively. In their descriptions they say Japanese movement. If it doesn’t say Japanese movement then who knows what it is? Nh36 is also engraved on the winding rotor as well
Finish and lube not super consistent in that market and price point. If your watchmaker gave the keyless works a little bit of love - it would probably improve greatly.
So Starking Case and dials are good, just their "in house" movements are not. Swap in a Miyota movement like Watch Repair Channel did (or buy one with it, they offer them) and you have a nice looking watch with a better movement.
Hi T3 love the video and honesty you bles us with. if you are throwing the starking out mind giving it away? :) I've been collecting for a while and ive men tinkering on some onld fashion watches and some pocketwatches. would lve to take a look at this one, i suspect the secund hand cog has 2 tooth broken.
I really like this kind of review, it's fun to see an AP Royal Oak review, but it's a watch I'll never buy for its price, and I think it's nice to have a different and broader view of the industry and commercial traffic. Return it to Amazon and do a new review of this watch, I'll be waiting.
Well, just as you'd expect from a watch in this price range. If you want to produce and sell an automatic watch this cheap, you have to save on certain things. Even Chinese workers don't work for free and I am guessing that QC is one of the things that they're saving on. Mind you, this is a hi-beat, "very many jewels" (lol, love that marketing of theirs), automatic movement with hacking and sapphire crystal. I don't know how cheaper than this with these features would even be possible, apart from giving them away for free. So I guess you'll have to live with the fact that quality will vary from watch to watch and that you got lucky with the AM0184 you previously reviewed. I'd say it's a 50/50 chance. But hey, it's Amazon. If it has glitches, you just return it.
At 19:20 into the video I swear the seconds hand didn't jump when it was at the 7 o'clock mark but yes, buy a second one and see. Even with established brands there's the odd dodgy watch sometimes.
I actually quite like the styling of this watch, just a shame that the QC isnt up to scratch and the Starking font is a bit standard Microsoft Word-ish.
Would like to see some reviews of San Martin. Keep seeing great reviews on forums and chats in terms of quality and value for money. And yes do buy another Starking... let's see if it is a QC issue?
Have a rose gold version with the blue strap. Love it to bits, cost £55 UK from somewhere on Ali express. Put it on my time grapher, +70 seconds per day😅. Screws are painted and is a low brand Seagull. We watch nuts call the second hand action 'stumbling'. A good choise. Not Swiss, Seagull. Live the cast.
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I got a Starking with their 28,000 bph movement that had that issue once. I've heard others have had it too, sort of like the Miyota stutter on steroids. I think that's one of the reasons that they've recently switched over to Japanese movements in a lot of their newer watches.
At 35 seconds of every minute of every day, there is a glitch in the matrix.
Move on Geez, I love my Starking, why do you got to expose it like that?
You should check out one of Cadisen's automatic watches! Similar price and design but with a Seiko NH36! So you get the reliability of that movement!
As far as I know, Starking uses the same movement in all their watches, which looks like a Chinese dg2813 movement, which is known to be somewhat lacking in quality control and reliability. The Watch Repair Channel did a review and teardown of one of these Starking watches.
They started selling them with miyotas now too. For a few bucks exfra
Yea, saw that. Build a movement, drop the whole thing into a bucket of cleaner/lubricant and sell. Nom nom.
solideagle200 Ah, Thanks for the insight
What the hell is up with the seconds hand @ 8:02 - watch for a few secs
Edit: also @ 9:40 "Smooth high beat -T3" lmao its juttering like the gear lash is a joke
Edit: welp he noticed finally 10:10
Was wondering if he would notice
I have replica Rolex and does the same with the second hand sometimes
Excellent value for money if you get a good one. The first Starking I purchased was DOA so I returned it and tried my luck again. The second one was great. I gifted it to my brother awhile back and it's still working great and keeping excellent time.
Ha. Pull-out game! That's how you get little time tellers!
Best part of your review was when you briefly focused on the Diver's clasp on your Marine Master Tuna.😎👍
About 2-3 months ago I actually went online and bought 5 of those clasps to replace the traditional diver clasps on some of my Seiko's.😼
An Amazon listing was inaccurate? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you!
Good thing I bought the other one you suggested a little while back, and I've had it for a month do far, and I gotta say I'm loving it.
My Starking AM0189 has issues with the movement too. If they take a whack on the side they stop moving and the movement shutters at times as seen in your video. Did a video on this on my channel and it is the same. Thought it might be a sample size of one but now I’m not so sure. Looks like it might be a problem across the brand. It seems common.
At the end (for exampe at 21:17) it does not seem to jump when reaching 7 o'clock index. Interesting! Maybe it needed warm-up :)
Maybe it was low on power and does that?
@@mrbacchus6127 rather there was something on the (indirectly driven) second hand pinion between the teeth.... it just went somewhere else waiting to cause more problems..... Not complete junk movements (I mean there are worse), just assembled dirty.....
Less spent on packaging and more on QC is where this is at.
Or more profit🤪
I wonder if you got unlucky with this one, or just very lucky with the first?
you should do a dan henry review, keep up the great vids!
Just a thought/something I noticed.. Where the watch skips, is exactly where you pulled out/tried to pull out, the crown the first time and started trying to change the date window. I wonder if that has something to do with it. I know next to nothing about automatic watches, but do remember something about not setting the day during certain hours. I wonder if you caused the sweep error?
T3, sent it back! You can not be sure if you got the right one. The model #'s are not the same. Don't waste more money. Get a good one first!! THANKS for the Videos. Always great info.
It felt like we just witnessed a supernatural event with the second hand action 👻
If it skips a second every minute that means it’s off by 1440 seconds a day lol.
And yet it isn't, it halts too. Mine does the same, but it doesn't effect the accuracy really.
I have two of them,and I checked for the very same problem. Mine are working fine! You had a not so great example
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I noticed that second hand skip while you were praising the smooth sweep. I first thought it was an editing thing.. it's probably caused by some debris or maybe some over lubrication that will work itself out as the gears continue to mesh and spread out the excess lubrication in the movement.
I'm not sure if anyone else has called this out or if you noticed but they sent you a watch with a rose-gold tone seconds hand but the one on Amazon has a blue seconds hand. Which would maybe also explain the difference in ref. number?
In the very end: This is a 50 dollar watch with automatic movement and sapphire crystal, as well as applied indices and a leather strap. Something can not be quite right there :D
Apparently that model have that problem, you should but the AL0196 combo that comes one for men and one for women, that seems like a good deal
4:51 i love how you went to see if it hacked but clearly it already did when you were setting the time. Ohhh Time Teller you silly boy
Indirect seconds could explain that, but usually those exhibit their stuttering in a variety of positions around the dial, not a fixed one. I had another watch that exhibited something similar, the reason was that second hand was actually bent and touching the minute hand. Watchmaker fixed that for me for not a lot of cash :) But yeah, it is possible that something else is going on with this movement. I wonder how long they would last for with daily wear.
I expecting a cadisen 1032 and don't get to mad but a loreo sub homage from AliExpress. Almost out of curiosity. What do you think about the Seiko 6105 from San Martin? Love the look expecially the bronze case with the green dial.
That is the most entertaining watch review I have ever seen 😂 A follow up would be interesting indeed. Lovin ur work dude 🤘
Hey Jory Starking's AM0213 is an open heart variant, with a small seconds hand. That is weird. Please buy another for followup. You are awesome Bro.
I wanted to buy a starking but than i saw this problem on a few other youtube channels so i bought the cadisen c1032 with nh36 and it's a great watch.
I own both and you're right. Cadisen killed it with that watch
I was looking at both (Starking AM0184 vs. Cadisen C-1032) and asked Jody from Justonemorewatch which was better since they looked so similar - and he said that the Cadisen is definitely the better watch.
@@karlsenula9495 yeh i think with starking people see hi beat and fall for it but cadisen is clearly a better watch.I bought mine for 57$ if it had seiko logo on it and not cadisen it was a 300$ watch at least.
Did a little Google search...Starking AM0213 is the Skeleton Tourbillon model...looks like they either used the wrong back case or ran out of the AM0239 back case and the worker got lazy, not very surprised from my 20+ years of experience in dealing with local Chinese factories
Great content Jory keep up the good work 👍
I have this watch as well. I do not like the crown too as it is too small. My watch do not have your problem but it does stop when I shake it very hard. There is some review about this as well. Could be something to do with the "in house" movement. The model should be AM0239 and my watch caseback did not indicate the model number like yours. By the way, I bought mine on aliexpress. Frankly speaking, I think buying this kind of Chinese made watches depends on your luck because I do not think they have a very good quality control department.
So -ve is the crown/date wheel? Didn’t hear anything else wrong for $50...was the don’t buy down to the crown action?
Definitely get another one to see if you get a better movement. Or tell them that one is broken and see if you can return it. See what the return experience would be.
I don't have that particular reference, but I have a couple of Starkings. One of them has the same issue with the "skipping" second hand.
Follow up!
Btw, in the UK bummer means something else completely. 😆
I have the first one, no issues and I like it very much.
Disappointing example from Starking I would look at getting a refund especially because you've ordered it off Amazon. Great balanced review keep it up!
I think you should try buying another one, I'm curious
I have a gold color starking with a gold face (so not this model) and it’s been fine. None of the problems you mentioned here. I’m guessing with such cheap watches that some just don’t work quite right. My starking does have one problem, though, that your watch shares that you didn’t mention: the buckle doesn’t match the watch color! Why are they putting silver colored buckles on gold colored watches??
The seconds hand issues is probably due to indirect seconds design. It can be resolved by adjusting the pressure of the spring which tensions the seconds pinion.
Depends on the movement, most movements these days are not like that. A watchmaker is best to consult.
I have two Starking watches but they are a shot in the dark. But for $50 bucks I took the shot. Take a look at the GUANQIN Automatic GJ16034 with the Seiko NH36A movement. Its about $70 on Aliexpress right now. I have one and its a cool purchase for the price.
Does it keep accurate seconds or does it gain a second every time it jumps?
Yes get another and go for the blue dial, it is gorgeous
I hope you get to put this on a timegrapher some day.
Good catch.
You should check out another Chinese brand Cadisen they are similar to Starking I have 2 Cadisens and their pretty good budget feature rich pieces
You tube is showing 2minutes ago . Means you uploaded it now wow I am an early bird!!👻
I think you didn't get enough handwinding, so the watch was stopping. Please T3, can you confirm that?
I've got the AM0184 model and it's got the same shitty crown action. No second hand issues, that seems like something's broken inside in the one you got. Instead, mine's got misaligned hour/minute hands :)
I even messaged Starking about it. Their reply was: "
hello , dear , the mechanical watch not so precise , it can work normally " :D
I noticed at the end of the review the second hand did not do that skip and jump? Maybe debris?
Jory, would you do a review on boderry watches? The value for money seems ridiculous, and you're one of the few reviewers I trust
I think it's The Watchmaker who shows you a different movement that fits that watch.
It’s a very nice LOOKING watch. Shame about the movement... maybe the moving of the crown did something on the inside? Idk.
You should get another one, if you like it.
9:43 “And that seconds hand as it sweeps very smoothly across that date window, you’ll notice it’s moving at a very smooth, hi-beat.” Right in the middle of that sentence, the seconds hand start to go wonky around the 7 hour marker. Very smooth indeed lol. But for 50 bucks, I guess we can’t complain much.
Seiko5's don't have this problem
daniel viegas forgive me if I’m incorrect, but I don’t think there’s any brand new Seiko 5 at 50 dollars? I could be wrong. But yeah, I’d rather just sink in a couple of ten dollars to get a new Seiko 5, or just save and get a new G-Shock.
Thanks for the video! As for the watch I think it would be interesting to get another one, and I'm sure Amazon will replace it in a heartbeat.
And happy (late) birthday!
Starking has modified a Miyota movement to run at a very high frequency. That skipping should however not change the accuracy of the watch because it is just a „representation“ of the time. The second hand seems to be indirectly driven. I would love to see those Starking watches with lower frequencies because that high frequency simply increases the stress on the movement which will make it break earlier. If the movement breaks however you can replace it easily with a Miyota, so, not a big deal here...
Jory check the pagani design watches... Mostly they're homage watches but gives pretty great value
I love this direction that you're going. Even if you had that Director Michael cash you'd proabably still do this Starking review.
Speaking of Starking, this one is a disappointment. Everything looked so good. The dial and the rosegold. That caseback and movement as well. I love that logo on the caseback. I still might get one on aliexpress though 🤣
Hi T3, It would be interesting to take out the movement and closely inspect what makes the hand skip.
I’ve got the same issues with the one I got, the skip is at 3 o’clock though😅
Also, if I shake it hard enough the hour and minute hands just move around freely. Complete garbage
Any plan to review Shinola watches?
I got a Loreo that is the same way. Feels like I’m gonna break it when trying to hack. The date click is basically a guess on how far to pull the crown. But it was $60 so can’t complain really. Once set, it runs fine
I have the same issue with my AM0184. It does not lose any time, and seems to be like the Miyota stutter, only worse.
Okay, how much is the cost of the watch? Right! You get what you pay for, at that price point, that skip won’t bother me, remove the seconds hand if it bothers you and done, no more skipping.
Please review the Starking Am0171 with the miyota movement, the gold variant
Yes pls buy another one and do a follow up!
Sticker peeling ASMR...oh yes!
Take a look at the forums and there is a lot of discussion around the stuttering issue and cheap Chinese movements. I think these are based on the DG2813 movements which are incredibly low grade and much like the miyota stuttering, they too suffer from issues with the second hand pinion friction spring. I’ve had 3 starking Watches now and 2/3 were garbage!
Is that ”skip” a feature or bug? And yes, you should get another one and compare it.
I ordered 2 of these, both were not working properly when arrived. Too bad because they looked great for the money.
Considering how long these guys have been going it' not a bad start, Orinet still rules the entry level
If you read thru the starking offerings on Amazon you will see that for $10 more there are a few models that use the NH 36 Seiko movement and those models are very well reviewed positively. In their descriptions they say Japanese movement. If it doesn’t say Japanese movement then who knows what it is? Nh36 is also engraved on the winding rotor as well
I have this model in a blue dial and it works great with no issues. Seems like a QC issue with your watch.
Finish and lube not super consistent in that market and price point. If your watchmaker gave the keyless works a little bit of love - it would probably improve greatly.
So Starking Case and dials are good, just their "in house" movements are not. Swap in a Miyota movement like Watch Repair Channel did (or buy one with it, they offer them) and you have a nice looking watch with a better movement.
Hi T3 love the video and honesty you bles us with. if you are throwing the starking out mind giving it away? :) I've been collecting for a while and ive men tinkering on some onld fashion watches and some pocketwatches. would lve to take a look at this one, i suspect the secund hand cog has 2 tooth broken.
small amount of debris in the movement...
I really like this kind of review, it's fun to see an AP Royal Oak review, but it's a watch I'll never buy for its price, and I think it's nice to have a different and broader view of the industry and commercial traffic. Return it to Amazon and do a new review of this watch, I'll be waiting.
T3! No joke, buy a Cadisen C1032! Nh35, sapphire crystal, Phenomenal value!
I had a similiar issue with the original one you reviewed. Seems quality control os lacking.
From 19:30 on the skip goes away! The second hand sweeps the whole dial smoothly at least 4 times
It stopped having there jump towards the end of the video. During your wrap up it stopped the hop skip and jump thing
Yes, get another one to verify it's quality standard.
To Dom Dom's point, the CADISEN C1032 at or around $50, Seiko NH36, sapphire crystal, exhibition back. Crap packaging, watch has been bullet proof.
Youre a good man goodman
I think they should stick to making Tuna.
(It's a joke no need to comment 🤣)
Hey time teller try pagani design
They are totaly homage watch or should I say copy of well known brands
Well, just as you'd expect from a watch in this price range. If you want to produce and sell an automatic watch this cheap, you have to save on certain things. Even Chinese workers don't work for free and I am guessing that QC is one of the things that they're saving on. Mind you, this is a hi-beat, "very many jewels" (lol, love that marketing of theirs), automatic movement with hacking and sapphire crystal. I don't know how cheaper than this with these features would even be possible, apart from giving them away for free. So I guess you'll have to live with the fact that quality will vary from watch to watch and that you got lucky with the AM0184 you previously reviewed. I'd say it's a 50/50 chance. But hey, it's Amazon. If it has glitches, you just return it.
At 19:20 into the video I swear the seconds hand didn't jump when it was at the 7 o'clock mark but yes, buy a second one and see. Even with established brands there's the odd dodgy watch sometimes.
And with brands like these, every odd watch is dodgy and every even watch is not ;)
Shame the QC wasn't as good on this model, hopefully this isn't in every one of them because its a lovely watch at an excellent price
Yea ! Follow up. I like the whole cheap watch gamble game.
I actually quite like the styling of this watch, just a shame that the QC isnt up to scratch and the Starking font is a bit standard Microsoft Word-ish.
The experiance was so traumatising he couldn't even Dab
Would like to see some reviews of San Martin. Keep seeing great reviews on forums and chats in terms of quality and value for money.
And yes do buy another Starking... let's see if it is a QC issue?
Have a rose gold version with the blue strap. Love it to bits, cost £55 UK from somewhere on Ali express. Put it on my time grapher, +70 seconds per day😅. Screws are painted and is a low brand Seagull. We watch nuts call the second hand action 'stumbling'. A good choise. Not Swiss, Seagull. Live the cast.
Do it I want to see it. You have drawn some interest for me into this brand