Rep. Eric Swalwell Presses Anti-Abortion Activist | The View
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- After Thursday’s exchange between the congressman and an anti-abortion activist, “The View” panel questions if the moment has highlighted confusion over abortion procedures and medical exceptions.
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When I was 12 I was raped by a neighbor and fell pregnant. My mom refused to let me have an abortion. We both almost died because my body just wasn't ready to carry a pregnancy. It ruined my life. That is a trauma I will probably never move past. Being raped, forced to have a child, the way people treated me, my childhood stolen from me, and dreams that would never be realized because I now had a child to care for. I don't ever want that for another person. This country disgusts me.
@@billbarr3960 Who raised you? So, because you disagree you call her a lier? If you’re wrong? If you called a victim a lier than what? Be a better person. Not everything needs to be spoken. Keep scrolling. You be the same people to quote scriptures 🙄.
@@tashamonee0101 what are you banging on about....lol
This happened to me 26 years ago, I got used to people calling me a liar a long time ago. And it's a big part of why I didn't ever report the rape. I have a lot of guilt about that because I have to live knowing that he may have done it to someone else and maybe I could have stopped it. In my experience men who are always calling survivors of rape and sexual abuse liars are guilty of crossing lines with girls/women themselves. His comment says a lot about what kind of "man" he is so....
@@tashamonee0101 He must've deleted it cause I can't see anything, must've been shameful.
@@MikeysGirl2104 they always do!!! Republican cowards are best at that cuz they know they’re shameful. And hypocritical. And straight up wrong about most things.
How about we just let physicians take care of their patients? Making a 10 year old give birth is child abuse.
So is killing a child in any other case.
I agree completely. I don't know who is their right mind thinks people like Greg Abbott, Ted Cruz, Brett Kavanaugh, etc. get to make decisions for patients by telling doctors what to do. It is really grotesque. Pressing charges on doctors? Vile.
@@patriot9606 the fact that you think a ten year old child should have to carry her rapist's child to term shows how disgusting you are.
@@patriot9606 we’re not talking about any other case. We’re talking about this case.
@@jtjr4730 Exactly.
I know a young girl who was sexually assaulted and had a baby from it. Her life was turned upside down. I’m a proud Christian. But,I agree with Whoopi. If you don’t want an abortion then don’t have one. But, you never know what another person may need. One size does NOT fit all.
cool story bro
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And the ego of it all --- just because one person believes something does not give them any right to impose those beliefs onto anyone else. It is immoral to force predictable and inevitable traumas upon someone who is not equipped to deal with those traumas, because of someone ELSE'S belief system, especially one that is not supported by any facts or science, but only personal points of view. Those traumas must not be forced upon those who do not share those beliefs. None should be forced to suffer for the sake of someone else's philosophical moral dilemma, when the REAL scenario that the dilemma is based on, is in someone ELSE'S life, and has NOTHING to do with them at all.
@@justaconversation3729 I agree with you. If you are so abolitionist, then never ever have a slave. But how dare anyone take that right away from me. Abolitionists want to turn this country into a theocracy by forcing their bigoted abolitionist religious beliefs on others. They should respect my own belief. What I do with my property is not their business.
While I appreciate your identifying as a "proud Christian" and your willingness to not impose your beliefs on others, that is no longer enough. Your entire religion is literally being high-jacked and radicalized by the cult like Christian Nationalist radical evangelical right. WHEN ARE TRUE CHRISTIANS GOING TO BEGIN TO PUBLICLY AND LOUDLY CALL OUT THE AMERICAN TALIBAN THAT IS ATTACKING OUR NATION??!!
Mrs. Foster's ignorance is the best example on why abortion should be a matter of women personal choice. Anybody else making decisions like her is a disaster.
Hey I remember you
What about men? Men get pregnant now! 🫃
@@superhxcdave if you are a female that transitioned to be a male you can still get pregnant. Otherwise you're just being facetious and hateful and stupid and why in the world are you watching The view? I don't trust any man alive that watches The view
Ur actually inciting violence by not including trans men in the realm of people with the capability for pregnancy. So please think before you comment.
I couldn't care less about your religion, you know who else thought that? Adams, Franklin, Jefferson .
Thank you Whoopi, you said what a lot of people are thinking. If you are so pro life than never, ever have an abortion. But how dare you take that right away from me.
The right to kill your child?
@@heyitsme881 It is a person when it inhales/exhales it's first breath outside of the womb.
@ g'mom - How dare you take the right to life away from your own offspring. You can deceive yourself as much as you like with the outside the womb first breath nonsense, but that doesn’t change the fact that abortion results in a mother terminating the life of her own child. Forgive me but it’s true.
@@ianalan4367 why is it that you people want to DICTATE to others what to do, what to read, what to wear, what religion to practice it goes on and on. What I'm saying you can't and should not want to tell other people what to do. You should not want to impose your ideals on others. I'm definitely pro life, yet I respect the decisions that other women make concerning THEIR bodies. And I'm pro life after that child is dropped from the womb, unlike the pro lifers that don't give a rats butt for that child after they are born. This country has enough wealth to not allow any child to be without adequate health care, food, shelter, educational needs etc. etc. Yet those states that are denying a women the right has the highest maternal death rate, hi cost pre natal care, the lowest educational scores, no paid maternity leave, absolutely no sustenance for a mother/child to rely on. So, once your born, as GC said, "you are on your own".
it's the fact that i havent heard from one doctor in this whole thing. i'm outside the US but if that activist is as ill-informed as she is....i'm sorry for y'all. it really should be up you if you want an abortion. the same ppl who are anti-abortion are the same ppl who were protesting the vaccine for themselves. whoopi's right. where's the same respect? hypocrisy at its finest
This is what Idont like.
As a medical professional, I can say these things about Roe v. Wade.
Roe v. Wade overturning means
1. Choriocarcinomas are not covered
2. Miscarriages,
3. Rape, Incest
4. Ectopic pregnancies
5. Pregnancy complications: abruptio placenta, placenta previa,etc... not covered
The health of the pregant woman not covered
Also... potentially birth control could be outlawed... this is pretty dang big. Oh, and people use birth control for reasons notrelated to fertility. Skin, hormonal...etc.
Educate yourself
You are mistaken but that is ok. HHS specifically stated that those things are covered.
all the reasons you provided still dont justify killing a baby and as a medical professional you should know that the "clump of cells" has its own individual dna which already determines the characteristics of everything from height eye color and gentic disorders completely separate from the mother so it isnt her body so you cant kill someone else that is murder
If your jails are privatized, their only function is to make a profit you need to create more criminals.
This is one way to do so, including being homeless or mentally ill, making anyone with these issues a criminal you have found a new profit source for The Prison-Industrial Complex.
We as Americans claim a concept of Freedom, but it's just an illusion.
Making Women Criminals if they don't want to have children is the slippery slope of a Mandatory Christian American Nationalist State.
Pretty despicable how if they don’t agree with it, they end up calling tragic situations a hoax.
The politicians did NO research. World class DB Jim Jordan said Democrats were lying, the 10yo didn't exist. NO proof, no research, nothing. Then they go after the child and the doctors. The modern GOP is repulsive. They deserve Trump and all his sleazy fans and cult members.
They’re so disconnected from reality it’s actually laughable
Their minds and their worlds are very, very small.
It’s vile isn’t it.
Sorry off topic, but you’re extremely handsome.
The term is anti-abortion, not pro-life.
This.
The term is anti woman not anti abortion.
@@michelestidhamwhitmore8313 yes, I get that too.
@T Lee. The term is pro forced birth.
I call them anti-choice.
A girl or woman of any age should not be forced to have a baby as a result of rape. The emotional, physical, & mental impacts of carrying a baby from rape would be difficult & it should be the decision of the victim whether they want to carry & give birth (as a result of a terrible act). The rape in & of itself will impact the victim their entire life. A forced pregnancy would only intensify the mental health struggles & have a greater, long-lasting impact on the victim. We all need to pray for this 10 year-old survivor. 🙏❤
Well said. Who on Earth would disagree with
your statement. Maybe 1% who really are not part of the issue.
You don't make that call. Life is beautiful. Unborn Child is not to be victimized
A female should not be forced to carry a pregnancy under any circumstance or condition
@@bunnypoop4508 the commenter didn't even victimize or dehumanize any unborn baby
@@bunnypoop4508 a live child should also not be victimised as a result of an adult male RAPING her.
FORCING a RAPED child to be a parent is reprehensible.
As a non-American, this entire situation confounds me and makes me feel terrible. I don’t believe abortion should be so heavily politicized. Even if there was no SA involved, what about ectopic pregnancies and other life threatening situations? This is awful.
there have already been instances where women have almost died because dog ectopic pregnancies not being covered. the doctors have to literally wait until the mother is on her death bed and the pregnancy has ruptured
Ectopic pregnancies are not elective abortions. There are no laws restricting ectopic pregnancy care. Any doctor who thinks the law says so and will not treat the patient because of that should be sued for malpractice.
@@ashleyholder2218 I think you're misinformed since a woman had to be airlifted out of Texas to another State to have her ectopic pregnancy terminated. It's still abortion.
@@marcietownsend3635 no it isn’t. The laws state that it is the INTENTIONAL termination of an existing alive embryo/fetus. I wasn’t able to find the story about the woman being airlifted from Texas. Do you care to link an article? I’d be interested in reading it.
The misinformation that YOU are spreading is what will kill women. Women can get care for their ectopic pregnancy. They can get care for their miscarriage (which yes, is clinically described as a spontaneous abortion, but like I said it is not an elective one). Saying they cannot is going to scare them and they will stay at home and die because they think they can’t go to the doctor. STOP SPREADING FALSE INFORMATION.
@@ashleyholder2218 The doctors have to prove that the mother’s life was in danger and that the abortion was a necessity. So, the doctor will err on the side of caution and wait longer than needed to stay out of legal trouble.
There seems to be more coverage and animosity towards the doctor who performed a medical procedure over that of the real m onster, the rapist who did this to a child. Her life will never be the same and I pray for her healing.
Because the rapist is an illegal alien. No one wants to talk about him! Lol!
Are you saying there's no law against rape and defilement in the US ?
im mad at the rapist for rape and im mad at the doctor for murder either one is not acceptable
@@Mypresident1986 you want another arm for that reach your making? Since when does one person receiving more hate than the other mean there aren't legal consequences for a crime?
@@esmeraldagreengate4354 honestly I don't know what you are saying
Yes, when I was pregnant I got Medicaid once I had my baby and went back to work I got a letter saying I made $20 over thier income limit, so I was kicked off of Medicaid for making $20 over. I still needed that to care for my baby annuals check up and vaccine etc..I'm pretty sure I'm not alone who went through this.
No disrespect but why should i raise your baby through my tax dollars?
@@eddie5152 You're not raising her baby. You're paying taxes just like everyone else. Sit down
@@eddie5152 One of the things white men decided is that in this country we are to take care of each other. I’m sure you receive or have received something that someone thought why is my tax dollars paying for that. It’s just our countries culture. Not saying it has to stay that way but just answering your question.
@@eddie5152 LOL! Awww oh okay Troll . Clearly you need attention with that comment = so I'll play EVERY other Developed Country has Universal Health Care from birth . It comes out of their Taxes . NO other country but ours has HALF A MILLION people who go Bankrupt and or lose their homes because of Medical Debt There you got some attention Feel better now ?
@@eddie5152 Meant half a Million Americans go bankrupt EVERY YEAR from Medi-Cal Debt . But you knew that . Thirsty for attention with that comment poor thing it must suck to be you
I was with Alyssa until she said being Pro-life means supporting moms throughout their lives.
That has NEVER been the position of the GOP.
She needs to add being anti-death penalty, anti-police shooting unarmed African AMericans, and stricter gun laws to her examples of being truly pro-life.
You forgot anti black on black shootings because 90% more
Best comment
And we should stop calling them pro life. More like anti choice
@@lesliewheeler7071 forced birth! Pro life means for life so that should equate to anything that supports life and prosperity for everyone!
Lol who do you think runs crisis pregnancy centers??
What do these men want to do to that child now that she had an abortion because she was raped. Do they want a child in jail ? Do they want to make an example of a rape victim instead of the rapist? Republicans are truly hypocritical and disgusting
Use it as a border / illegal immigrant culture war talking point. Prosecute somebody - the doctor, the taxi driver, the mother, the airline pilot, anyone. They don't give a fig about the child.
And they use any means they can to have their MINORITY rule the MAJORITY and destroy lives!!
Remember that on Election Day and Vote Democrat. 🗳
How about castrate the rapist.
I wish I could say no, But I wouldn't be surprised if they do want to put the child in jail. This is sick and they seem to be giving the message, put up and shut up. F that.
I am an Ohioan and I hear this kind of rhetoric all the time. They believe it doesn’t count as an abortion unless it the “oops my birth control failed and I don’t want another child right now” abortion. They think it won’t affect women with life threatening pregnancies because “that’s not abortion”. But it technically is. Abortion is simply the medical term for ending a pregnancy. Spontaneous or elective is the qualifier to that term. They are banning elective abortion which bans ALL MEDICAL ABORTIONS. it doesn’t count differently because of your special circumstances.
The procedure is called dilation and curettage or D&C. It's a diagnostic procedure. These so called "pro life" people are not only grossly misinformed, they're pathological liars. After ~14 weeks the fetus may be too big and the woman may have to have labor induced. The woman testifying before congress did no one any favors, least of all the alleged "pro birth" crowd.
God help them when they realize what the medical term is for a miscarriage then. They'll probably try to throw people in jail for that.
As far as one medical definition, yes. Abortion is the termination of a pregnancy. But legally and when it comes to law, they are using abortion to refer to the intentional killing of the unborn child. This is why, in cases where the primary intent is to preserve the life of the mother, they don't legally consider it an abortion. Or, in other words, they consider it an exception in the abortion law. You can argue that this use of terminology is wrong and causes unnecessary confusion, but at the end of the day, the act of "intentionally killing the unborn child" is an act deserving of a distinct term. Like murder vs manslaughter vs self defense killing. They all have minor distinctions. And, at the end of the day, whatever you want to call the "intentional killing of the unborn child", that is the act that the pro-life side is arguing against.
This is made clear when Mrs. Foster is allowed to clarify her position when the representative after Swalwell allows her to. She states that pre-teen pregnancies are high risk, so since the life of the mother is at high risk and should be protected, she legally doesn't consider this an abortion, so it wouldn't be illegal. But they don't show you that ... all you see is Swalwell saying in interviews that Mrs Foster wants a forced, high risk pregnancy of a 10 yr old... even though she explicitly denies it within 10 minutes of his questioning. Misinformation indeed.
@@pjelpers Thank you for mansplaining the situation. LEGALLY and medically an abortion is the termination of preterm pregnancy whether naturally or medically.. "Miscarriage" is a layman's term. "pregnancy loss" or "fetal demise" are phrases often used when a woman loses a pregnancy before 38-40 weeks. Even "stillbirth" is a layman's term, not medical. Mrs. Foster is a lying, pro-birth ill-informed mouthpiece. Anyone who is against abortion shouldn't have one. They shouldn't dictate what other women may choose and they sure as heck shouldn't dictate what women who are bleeding or having complications that will imperial their life must do.
@@pjelpers Ohio's only exemptions are to "prevent the death of the pregnant woman” or "to prevent a serious risk of the substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function of the pregnant woman”. These must be proven to an unquestionable extent or else both the Doctor and patient will be charged. But the scope of "substantial impairment", proof of it being "irreversible", what constitutes a "major bodily function", the measure of a "serious risk", and the probability of the woman dying, are all NOT clearly outlined. And since we're clearly not sticking to medical definitions, it gets even muddier. So for one thing, at no point is it written that in these cases is it not still considered an abortion. "Legally and according to the law" they are exceptions where a termination / abortion may be allowed. But these are also sloppily and vaguely written carve-outs that invite a legal nightmare to anyone wanting to use them. They already want to investigate the Doctor in Indiana, so implying that no one will challenge whether an abortion is legally justified just because there are two sentences about potential risk is absolutely laughable. Again, THE DOCTOR IN INDIANA IS ALREADY BEING SCRUTINIZED. Why in anyone's imagination would it be any better if she tried to have it in even stricter Ohio?
Call it "ending a pregnancy" or "killing an unborn child", if you're picking/choosing an "angle" and legal interpretation instead of abiding by the actual medical definition when talking about a medical procedure, you're playing games with people's lives.
People saying they are pro life , what they really should say is that they're anti abortion. Stop being sanctimonious, call it what it is.
NO problem
@@kjron1548 In the same way, I am pro-choice...not pro-abortion. The right doesn't seem to understand that.
How about instead of pro choice your anti life
@@mike-ws3jl I don't think anyone is anti-life...that's a stupid comment
@@MrHiggins1982 what do you think happens in a abortion? Your in denial
If you're "pro-life" you need to be so for ALL aspects of "life." Gun control is pro-life. Nobody needs to own a gun that totally blows a body apart to the point they can't identify them without detailed DNA analysis.
I have one 🤚😁.....uninfringed!
@@BuckyBadgerFan Not entirely......Just don't try and come in my home and we won't need to use DNA analysis 👍
Hey, I agree I'm pro life, pro gun control (probably pretty extreme actually. I don't believe most of us need guns at all), I've volunteered at food banks (money, goods, time), anti death penalty, I've donate to mothers charities (Formula, nappies etc), I believe in paid maternity leave, public healthcare etc. I'll admit the loud voices are not for these things but we do exist out there not everyone is exactly the same.
@@cbpaddingtonbear2606 Hi, I appreciate all that you've said. What I'll never ever understand is if your Pro-Life I would NEVER EVER force you or try to convince you to have an abortion . Why can't that consideration be applied in the reverse ??. As a Public School Teacher that has a student almost every year that's in a foster home , often born to very young mothers, sadly not uncommon as a result of rape or incest. The lives of these children are heartbreaking.
@@sarahtiferet598 hey! Thanks for being so polite and thanks for the work you do as a teacher. My aunt is a teacher too and I know how hard is it and how much it matter.
I can see that the situations of these kids breaks your heart and it should do, for all of us, however the issue I take with this line of argument is it's a logical fallacy to argue for abortion because there are children who are living incredibly hard lives. If we follow the logic then death is better then all potential suffering, so if I have the right to decide my baby should die rather than end up in a forster home where does that end? Should be end the lives of the sick because their suffering is awful? What about those who's mental health makes life unbearable? (We actually have huge initiatives, rightly so, to try to save the lives of people who's mental health is so bad they think it's better to die). What about the elderly, or those who have no hope, or those in 3rd world countries under war, poverty, starvation?
On the contray, we always celebrate the those the press on dispite the horrible thing they face.
For example, if a Holocaust survivor could go back and end their life before the camp, but miss out on any of the other things in life would they?
Well, I don't think any Holocaust survivor would have the same answer but the ones that survived are the only ones that would be able to tell how they personally would answer. We will never know how the dead would answer because they're gone and we have no right to speak for them, or any of the situations I mention above.
If you asked the kids in your school, "would you rather that you were never born then lived the life you do now?" I don't think every single one of the them would answer yes, although I'm sure they're probably are a few who do feel that way but we only know that because they can tell us.
Incase of the unborn we decide for them that they would be better dead then to live a certain life. Most people who are alive want to be, even the suicidal don't so much want to die as they want an end to whatever pain they feel that can escape. (I understand this myself as I was suicidal for most of my teens).
On a personal note, I was abused (in multiple forms) for years by both my parents, and my 3 older brothers. I don't personally think it would be better if I had never been born. I now have a husband and a beautiful baby boy of my own.
What I believe in is hope, and helping these mothers and kids, especially those who find themselves in these situations. I won't ever stop caring or stop trying to help. I won't ever stop hoping that we can fight and kill the evils that plague the lives of these moms and kids, rather than feeling like it's better to end their lives.
👏🏾 👏🏾 👏🏾 👏🏾 👏🏾 Whoopi said it perfectly
Let the women decide for themselves if they need one or not like whoopi said you dont have to have one
The terrifying aspect is that no one is understanding that you can actually get pregnant up to a year before a period starts. So 10 years old may not be the youngest child we see in this situation
You’re right. The youngest was five years old.
Omg 😢
The little girl was 9 when this happened. She turned 10 during this 6 weeks. So cruel and disgusting.
@@brooklynredbird3298 The rape and abortion are both disgusting. None of them should happen.
@@Lerian_V Forcing children to birth children is disgusting too and it shouldn't happen.
Whoopie your amazing thank you for standing up for rights of women and children. Thank you for your voice we need you.
"rights of children?"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 take several seats
@@1982JoseB The rights of a ten year old child that needs protection against such a crime and all other children that need protection.
@@dandolittle6372 "all other children that need protection"
Are you that deep into the rabbit hole that you cannot even see it?
You are a Lib. What is a woman. If any member of the panel of the "View" was asked "Could any of your Husbands give birth to children.? What do you actually think they would say live on air? Answer: We are experiencing difficulties. Mind Wipe, it never happened.
@@ianalan4367 Just say that you believe kids should be raped and forced to give birth to trauma babies.
I wish Anna had a permanent seat. I just fucken love her.
Well said! She is amazing!
I just fail to see how she is a conservative. She adds no differing opinion than the rest of the panel
@@LaCroisetteblogspot she’s the old school republicans before the Trump era.
@@trevortenentes1319 I fail to see her add any traditional conservative values to the panel
If you don't believe in abortion, don't have one
And I will also fight for you not to have one as well. Abortion is evil.
@@ranip7644 lol thanks Rani P
Sarah Warbeloew clearing up that stupidity was important. Ana is on fire vis a vis, intended and unintended consequences. She summed it up so well and she ended it well with providing qualified medical services👏
Why tf aren't these women enraged at the scumbag that raped a 10 year old??? They're just using this child to further their agenda. It's fuckin sick.
Ana has literally said that autistic people should be aborted. That’s gross.
Exactly! Red states don't even want to expand healthcare services.
@@dragonluvaIII I forgot about that aspect of it, so true
It's true that most European countries allow abortion up til 15 weeks. It's a private decision that isn't talked about and isn't politicized. Also true is that there is proper healthcare in these countries so doctor visits and contraception and prenatal care and childbirth does not cost a fortune. So if a woman (or girl😢) suspects she's pregnant, the cost of seeing her doctor doesn't prevent her from doing so until months into a pregnancy.
Also every other developed country has maternity leave entitlements.
US expects you to give birth and go back to work within a few days.
@@kronicpain7357 ...if you want to keep your job. When I had my first son, in 1993, I think it was 6 weeks maternity leave in the U.S.? My second son was born in Austria and I was shocked to learn that maternity leave there was (I think) 18-24 months. Your job was secured and you received something like 70 or 80% salary.
@@kronicpain7357 - Right. No talk about celibacy or morality in Sex Ed either. That's for the family to impart...or not. Just the biology of it and how to prevent STDs and unwanted pregnancies.
Australia is 20-22 weeks but not illegal for later (which is mostly bc of health of mother or viability of baby and usually a tragedy) with 2 doctors signing off (as a second opinion)...we allow women to control their own bodies here!!
the left want legal abortion right up to the birthing process
Thank God for Whoppi for saying what she did on the subject and to give US a voice!
You go Whoopie!
That same energy should be placed on mandatory vaccines. My body my choice. Vaccinated people spread the virus. Vaccinated people still get the virus.
I really love Whoopi Goldberg‘s passion on this topic ❤️
Whoopi is one of the biggest transphobic, anti-semetic, racists, you will ever meet. A black woman who highjacked a Jewish last name because her mother said it would open doors for in hollywood.. But it is no difference than Joy Behar speaking in a Jewish/Yiddish accent even though she is of Italian decent. But being married to a Jewish man makes you Jewish by Proxy unless your an Orthodox Jew.
I wish she would let other people talk.
@@naylas3908 😂😂😂
If only she wouldn't keep telling us how much our vote matters. We did not get to vote on this and I am not hearing this fact being talked about.
@@traceytrotter9934 We indirectly voted on it but I get what you’re saying.
That anyone in government would make a child go through carrying a pregnancy to term after enduring a rape gives you insight into the lack of soul and real Christianity in these officials.
Bingo. And it’s those same people who keep afloat the gross child pageant industry that parades all their “precious children” in makeup and bikinis for creepy pedophiles to oogle at. So much hypocrisy and lack of self-awareness…
you dont need religion to know murder is wrong
@@tannersnell4587 so you believe a 10 year old should be forced to try and carry and deliver a baby?
@@tannersnell4587 So, do you think murder is wrong in the case of self defense?
@@kekica11 self defense is an action you take when someone is trying to harm/kill you which isnt murder that why when you kill someone in self defense we dont call you a murderer you are still a victim same with basic assault
For the last 50 years Roe protected access up to viability, and that is no one's business but the pregnant person.
Don't like abortion, don't have one, and hope you never need one to save your life.
Amen I had to have a D and C when I started to hemmorage after giving birth to my 3rd baby and if that procedure wouldn't of been allowed I would of died no doubt. People don't realize it's not just affecting women who don't want their babies. Women who planned and are excited and already buying things end up needing life saving abortions. Women who allergic to birth control or women like me who can't take it due to a health issue shouldn't have to be scared that a condom will break and I will be in a situation that strangers get to decide how I handle it. Women shouldn't have to be scared to have sex with their partners or husband because someone assumes they are just careless and they will be denied life saving health care. I don't see men being denied life saving health care or being told their most private parts of their lifes are no longer private. It's so frustrating. How are men going to understand pregnancy or brith or womens bodies when they don't have one and arnt able to ever experience what a women does yet they get the right to think they do.
I dont like abortion because of the death of the baby i dont like watching anyone be murdered wither it effects me personally or not
@@tannersnell4587 your not watching anything because your not a Dr and your not a patient. Your not in their life and have no clue what's going on. Beyond women not caring and just being "sluts". There are actual medical reasons for an abortion. It shouldn't be your opinion over someone else's medical emergency situation. Mind your own business and you don't have to worry about it. Your not the women who's life is in danger or who is dieing and needs help. Women who want their babies need abortions too. There are specialist with degrees for a reason.
@HappyMe33 I support more help for adoption but it still doesn't change the fact of the baby dying I still rather a baby be born and have a difficult life then be murdered and it's my business when a woman is killing something that isn't her..
Whoopi you NAILED IT! Such a very interesting conversation!
Whoopi was on the money on this one!!!
She wasn’t ON the money, she just HAS a ton of money, some cameras, and no common sense.
@@nateyoder9372 You are a hypocrite
@@armaellis6358 explain
@@nateyoder9372 Explain What?
@@armaellis6358 explain what exactly I said that was hypocritical. Or is that just what you were taught to call people who disagree with you?
Why do we ever have to listen to people of good faith? this isn’t Afghanistan
Medical decisions should be made by a woman and her doctor.
Recite the pledge of allegiance for me
@@RustyShackleford360 Oh, you mean the "liberty and justice for all" part?
@@jackienaiditch7965 Or... One nation UNDER GOD
@@RustyShackleford360 Yes. I was trying for sarcasm.
Have you heard the term “American Taliban”?
"...420,000 children in foster care..."
Watch that number blow up.
How can Sunny be pro-life and think life begins at conception yet support and go through IVF? Were the lives of all those embryos not worth anything?
Because pro life ideology is not reality for themselves. It is about control of women that's it.
U can be pro life for U and your family. What others do , it’s none of your business. That’s btw their families and doctors. It has nothing to do with u. Worry about your own.
@@Noneofyourbizniz1 lol. The problem is the anti women group won't keep their beliefs to themselves and forces their ideology into everyone else. Sounds very familiar
@@Noneofyourbizniz1 pro life people don't need to come out and say that .... no one cares..just get out of other women's bodies
I agree with what your saying. I have a "friend " who is ranting on social media that all Dems are murderes yet she has still frozen embryos a decade later and she is done having kids. Her own rules she doesn't have to follow. I don't know about Sunny's situation but I know there are conservative fertility specialists that will implant all the embryos, not have left over frozen ones, they also won't use a high number of embryos to lower the risk of needing a reduction.
This whole thing is criminal!!!
The system should be prosecuted 🤬
I was 10 when I first started menstruating, I was such a baby. And I try to imagine going through what this young girl has and it's beyond me. My heart goes out to her and her family and so hope they are getting all the help they need. Hopefully there is a Gofundme page set up
I imagine that being on the news makes it a hundred times worse. It’s one thing to be in such a terrible situation and another to have the world watching as you are. Prayers.
Unfortunately, that's not what the pro aborts care about. They don't really care about the girl. They are using her to push their diabolical 'right to liberty trumps right to life' agenda.
My neighbor friend, like you, started when she was 10yrs old. I remember thinking how young she was to just b dealing with *that* & how thankful I was that I didn't have to until years later. I can't imagine that innocent child having also to deal with multiple rapes, as this child's vile perpetrator has admitted to at least 2. Then to add on top of all that, a pregnancy at her age, a child herself. Then even still, almost being forced to carry, have & possibly raise that child!
We need more compassion & understanding in this country & less "I believe this way so you should too"
I started at nine it sucked
Abortion isn't talked about in the bible anyway. if you wanna use the bible as context causing a woman to miscarry by injuring was punishable by a fine, but the penalty was steeper for the woman's injuries. The woman's life was more important.
It's in there. A potion is given to the mother if the husband thinks she is unfaithful. If it's his, she will carry to term. If she was unfaithful, she would lose the child.
This isn't a religious debate. Yes, you have some people who really believe that's what they're fighting for but most mainstream Christian sects weren't anti-abortion 50 years ago. They took that stance when they were hijacked by political lobbyists who created the so-called "Religious Right" and redefined several Christian beliefs in order to be more aligned with Republican politics.
@@Lynsey17 I'm not trying to mske s religious argument to make it so. I wrote that to suggest how absurd the anti-abortion stance is. I'm aware of what you said about anti-abortion's beginnings.
Imagine thinking that the ability to terminate a pregnancy up to 9 months and forcing a TEN YEAR OLD to carry to birth is “equally egregious”
Nobody is terminating pregnancies at 9 months! Outrageous statements like this are what led us to where we are right now!
Viability is not mine months its around 24 weeks and most people would say no 16 .to 18weeks ,but most abortions are done well before that most 8/12 weeks
@@annepascoe3029 true but the point stands. It's not the same at all
My wife was over 3mths pregnant and still having normal periods. It's not that uncommon to carry pregnancy for long time and be unaware. A child should never be forced to carry pregnancy or someone to be further subjected to trauma from rape.
There is only one right thing to do and it is to allow people to have full control over their own bodies.
what about the baby are they not a victim of the rape as well?
@@tannersnell4587 why do fetus's have more rights than women?
@@tannersnell4587 No. A fetus cannot be traumatized by rape. A product of rape, yes. So victimization lays with the woman.
@@esmeraldagreengate4354 Because that's how they control and regulate population.
@@ghostpuppet31 if you are murdered you won't be traumatized because you are dead but I'd argue you still are a victim traumas don't trump death
For those who believe young girls can't get pregnant, yes they can and do. Dept of Social Services has had to deal with cases of pregnancy by the father, step-dad, uncle or friend of the family. We have all had these cases.
I went to school with a girl who was pregnant in 5th grade! I’m now a 5th grade teacher and protect my students like they are my own.
@@Grillmaster33 that's heartbreaking. :(
@@Grillmaster33 same. I’ve been teaching for 17yrs and over my career I’ve seen three pregnant 10 year olds.
Mental gymnastics of the anti-choice crowd
"The unborn" are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike orphans, they don't need money, education, or childcare; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. It's almost as if, by being born, they have died to you. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus but actually dislike people who breathe
I’d take Alyssa’s reasonable rhetoric about common sense restrictions over Meghan’s wild screeching about infanticide any day of the week
I usually don't agree with whoopie but, thank you whoopie
The problem is that phrase "what is the middle ground" WE can agree on. She insists the decision is not solely between that of the doctor and the woman who is carrying the pregnancy. It doesn't really matter what happens in the rest of the world. That decision is the crux of a woman's bodily autonomy. To say that is "extreme" is nonsensical, but it does allow her to think that decision is somehow hers to make for others.
At least Sunny has come to understand this. It is OK for her case, but not her role to decide for others.
Interesting take from Sunny since under her opinion/religion this little girl should have the baby. Simply stating that she wouldn't let her faith dictate law does NOT make what Sunny says better. Wish there was someone at the table that would call her out on the fact that she does not believe this girl should have an abortion. It is deplorable and it is an oversight not having someone at the table press her on that the way she presses others on inconsistent/immoral views. Get it together view producers.
I love how she calls out Ana on the intellectual misalignment of being a Hispanic Republican and can never understand when Ana explains her stance yet she has a intellectually inconsistent take here too
Sunny doesn't make any sense
Maybe you didn't hear her clearly. She said her views and religion should NOT be forced on anyone. Never did she say the little girl needs to have the baby so stop putting words in her mouth when's she's telling you up straight
It’s definitely a line that is between church and state. It’s fine to have your religious belief but it’s more important that you can maintain respectful of others that don’t agree with you. Period. I don’t believe in abortion personally but I don’t believe (especially as a man) that I should be making a decision about woman’s right to choose. I also I don’t believe in the death penalty either. I also think it’s totally wrong for a child to carry a baby at 10 years old PERIOD especially being a rape victim. Imo Sunny understands the law and can separate her religious beliefs from this. She says that all the time.
@@naomiprice3702 Not at all. Sunny has been like that for years now.
Thank you Sunny is saying one thing out her mouth and the other side of her head. Double talk bs.
Great speech Whoopi 👸🏽🌹👸🏻💙💎💙🇺🇸👍🏽
Whoopi shut that ridiculous middle ground argument down perfectly.
How so?
@@LaCroisetteblogspot Because there is no middle ground when it comes someone else's body. This isn't complicated.
@@laysonbrooks7658 Two bodies involved and it is a fraught and complicated issue
@@LaCroisetteblogspot No there is not two bodies involved. There's the female body and a fetus. The debate has always been about legislating the morality of people.
@@laysonbrooks7658 I mean I am somewhere in between as most Americans are. I think a compromise needs to be reached. Both parties are completely disingenuous though so that’ll never happen.
Whoopi is so great. I agree with her thinking.
No, 15 effing weeks isn't a reasonable compromise. In all honesty, I think it should always be legal and always between the pregnant person and the doctor. Viability is the only compromise I am even willing to consider.
I saw all three of my children come into the world and I can't imagine a 10 year old going through that , what it would do to her lil body is scary
As silly and embarrassing as the Foster woman is, people like her are trying to direct policy for the rest of society. If not stopped, they will descend the U.S. into a full idiocracy.
Ben Shapiro says that there is an exception for this under OH law. This little girl can have an abortion in OH, as little girls can’t carry to term.
@@marcelavargas453 Then Ben Shapiro should advocate for the child. Alas Ben and Candace Owens just go around fueling fires. Ben at least has the courage to appear on shows where his view may be challenged. Owens goes on platforms friendly to her extreme views and never gets challenged. IF Shapiro is correct then why did the 10yo child's doctor send her out of state? Why is the governor of Indiana threatening the doctors involved in the case? WTF does ANY MAN have the right to make ANY of these decisions?
The smugness of her appearance was disgusting. SHE knows better than anyone. SHE claims it's not abortion because of the victim's age. The thing she proves she doesn't know is abortion is a medical procedure. It's called a dilation and curettage or D&C and it's a diagnostic procedure. This woman and the male politicians who have lied and misrepresented this case should be ashamed of themselves. Unfortunately the modern GOP has no shame.
@@marcelavargas453 Is Ben Shapiro a doctor or a lawmaker??
@@IMHTP he’s a lawyer
A 10-year-old cannot carry a baby to full-term
I'm so tired of ANTI CHOICERS thinking pro choice ppl are required to compromise their beliefs to suit them.
It’s not a person until it’s born. Period. End of story.
I wouldn't be surprised if many women start electing to have hysterectomies, especially if they've had the amount of children they want. It is horrible that a woman can't have a say over her own body. And what about the states that are against abortion under any circumstances including if the woman's life is in jeopardy. So you're basically saying, if you get pregnant, regardless of the circumstances of how you got pregnant, you will be forced to carry a baby to term even if you have to die to do it?? WTF! I really wish more men would stand up and say this is wrong as well because guess what - a woman/girl can't get pregnant by herself. You impregnating a female who cannot get an abortion makes you liable for child support. So be prepared because Uncle Sam is going to ask you to pay up.
For decades, OB-GYNs offered women, particularly Catholic women, hysterectomies after having had XX amount of children. The insurance companies didn't have the strangle hold on healthcare like they do today. Doctors would diagnose women with uterine prolapse, not unrealistic after many births, then arrange for a hysterectomy. I'm the last of 8 and I have several friends who were number 6-7-10....Mom went in the hospital for a 5-10 day stay and had surgery. Once the insurance industry took a hold of such procedures and preapproval.... Women used to have their tubes tied, tubal ligation, in the hospital after giving birth . If she had a c-section it was done after the delivery. For vaginal deliveries it would be done the next morning. The philosophy was "the woman knew she was done and people are willing to help after you give birth." Again, insurance monster has interfered with a lot of what used to be routine procedures.
I really like this guy. I see him as a great presidential candidate.
He fucks Chinese spies. He'll never become president lol
Why don't you just ask China to go ahead and start training you to deal with communism.
wasn't this bloke banging a chinese spy. yep, sounds like a great presidential candidate.
Unqualified politicians should not be making medical decisions for people. To think otherwise is asinine.
There is a strong point that rushing these bans through to appease a base that has waited decades to get these bans in place, is causing issues since clear exceptions need to be put into place before any bans can take effect. (Assuming that is the side you are on)
why do people think that they can have an opinion on a women body? 10-40....if you don't want to be pregnant you shouldn't have to be pregnant. END OF And if you are of good faith you wouldn't force people to do something against their will or that could kill them before, during or after...
Love these “Right to Lifers” …. Zero social services for these unwanted pregnancies once brought to term.
And it includes any procedure that involves D&C.
She wasn’t misinformed she was LYING. We need to STOP SPEAKING SO NICELY ABOUT THESE LIARS
I agree. We usually stand there and let them spew their lies as if they had actual weight and even mattered. I call on all to just call them a name and laugh and move on, don't engage, it makes them think they are making sense.
Even if the story was a hoax, is irrelevant. Because the point is, if it DID happen, the results would still be the same. A 10 year old child would be even further traumatized by being denied an abortion, and would have to travel out of state to get one!
Did that lady look up the meaning of abortion in the dictionary? 🤓🤦🏻♀️
Blows my mind that the people behind her didn't burst out laughing...
Dumbest spokesperson in history
Extreme of both sides? The extreme of pro choice is literally you choose if you want to have or not have an abortion. It’s NOT forcing every woman to have an abortion.
*_I'm tired of the GOP's 'Both Sides' argument._*
ROE WAS ALREADY A COMPROMISE!!!!! again ROE WAS ALREADY A COMPROMISE!!!
Go, Whoppie!!
*- A letter from the voiceless-*
Dear Mom,
I want to start by saying I love you, you were my first connection with another person. And I hoped I would get to see you face to face, hear your sweet voice sing to me sleep, But that never happened. Whatever I did I'm sorry, I didn't mean to hurt you or cause you any trouble, I just wanted you to be my mommy. What I went through physically hurt me, and I hope no one ever has to go through that again. But what hurt me even worst was the fact that my mommy that I love so much hated me. So much that you wouldn't even acknowledge that I was alive(lacking the ability to breathe unaided), you called me it(a clump of cells). And after all that you threw me away(like garbage), you wouldn't even do that to a pair of old shoes. Now it's to late for me, but on my behalf can you try to stop this from happening to any other babies. PLEASE!
Love
The Unwanted
P.S. I forgive you.
When I was in 5th grade (I was 10), my friend Tauriq (he was also 10) impregnated our friend who was 12 years old. That girl carried that baby to term and they became parents at ages 11 and 13. I still can't wrap my brain around this to this day.
Europe also offers free health care and 1 year maternity care and family care.
That’s what Alyssa said at the end there’s nothing for after the baby no maternity leave
Free at point of use, funded collectively by tax payers. A small contribution but it needs to be stated that it is not free for the benefit of those who don't understand how it works. Also, it means citizens own the healthcare system. Sadly, some have succumbed or are succumbing to American style middle agents and pushing for more privatisation - so that health can be monetized like everything that can't be hammered down. Air will be next.
A 10 year old can not legally babysit a baby. Vote 🔵. Save our rights.
Why are we even giving these MEN a platform to talk about ABORTION when none of THEM would be responsible for ANY of these pregnancies THEMSELVES?!!?
The youngest person to ever give birth was 5. While very rare, some girls have an abnormality where they develop way too early. It's disturbing....
Go, Whoopi‼️
Yet again, these circumstances of others & minors have an ethical decisions of life and their own. However it's no one decision over someone else's body including minors to tell them what they should do in a difficult situation obtained from a sexual crime. Religion standards are followed from its own beliefs of those followers but we must stop using religion like a weapon to use against others choices. Get out of the cloud and just live YOUR life.
This is a case of cognitive dissonance- when your dogma is challenge you create new definitions for the word "abortion"
Whoopie said it right! I also think it's stupid for men to blame on woman when they are the one getting them pregnant! Why aren't anyone talking about men's reproductive part?
This is sad. I can’t imagine a 10 year old and her family being forced to give birth to a baby that is the result of rape. They don’t even care if the girl’s life is in danger.
Why do Sunny take sooooooooooo long to make her points..Get to the point. Tired of also hearing about her religious belief on this topic. The view should bring on a professor in religion to give information on how catholic beliefs have evolved over time.
Embruos & fetuses that have not met the time of viability is NOT an independent life. Until is it capable of living, it is not a "baby". In the United States viability presently occurs at approximately 24 weeks of gestational age (Chervenak, L.B. McCullough; Textbook of Perinatal Medicine, 1998).
Oh the infinite wisdom of our government!! 🤦♀️
What church are the republicans referring to? There are many different religions, abortions should not be decided based on the ‘church’ and government.
Thank you guys and ladies for shining the light on this. you tell them Whoopi!
It’s because these silly people have reinterpreted “abortion” to “murder”.
Lady in orange needs to recognize that just because she believes there should be exceptions doesnt mean her lawmakers will give them. Doctors will be too afraid of lawsuits and getting thrown in prison for 10 years. Let women make the decisions for themselves. PERIOD. If you make anti choice laws it won't matter what exceptions are made because bottom line women wont be 100 percent free.
Very thankful for Whoopi!!
Again I agree with whoopie one hundred 💯 percent!!!!
It would be great if they had Mama Doctor Jones on the View to educate!
If as a parent, taking a stance such as Sonny's of being personally against abortion, would forcing your 10-year old daughter, a victim of rape, to remain pregnant be considered good parenting?
Considering the fact that she said in this clip that a child having a baby is destructive to their reproductive health, id conclude she'd be okay with an abortion in said case.
@@abrardirar5674 I posed a general question about good parenting largely intended to challenge the stance of being "personally against abortion" while also being pro-choice. It's easy to have empathy for any parent who would choose abortion in the circumstances of parenting a 10-year old rape victim. I'm curious if forcing a child remain pregnant at that age can be considered responsible parenting?
Listen to Sunny's segment again. She said she used to prosecute sex offenders and particularly those who raped children. She would not expect a child to carry to term. She says the child's body is NOT ready to carry the pregnancy and it becomes life threatening to both the child and the fetus.
@@ViFabulous"I don’t believe in abortion, at any time. I don’t believe in any exception to it." “That’s considered very radical for many people, and it’s because I’m Catholic and that’s my faith," Hostin said.
@@FLiPsHiP86 "I don't" but she doesn't tell other people what to do.
Sounds like the Ohio law needs revised to include an exception for the health of the mother. It's not more complicated than that.
There technically is but it's not clear what the rules around it are according to legal council which is why they went to another state. That's the problem, forcing doctors to have to ask lawyers if they have a sufficient case to save a life. I've known women who had difficulty getting an accurate diagnosis of an ectopic pregnancy, some doctors claiming it's a cyst. Women will die if doctors have to feel like they're rolling the dice on losing their career trying to save someone if a court decides to disagree. Someone could cite that despite many girls dying from pregnancy at that age, there has been a 5 year old and some 6 year olds who survived giving birth. It's hard for a doctor to claim that someone will 100% guarantee die from something, no matter how deadly (people have survived bullets in their skull and portions of their brain missing). So it's best to leave to medical professionals to decide over judges and lawyers whether a pregnancy will risk the life of the mother.
@@RiamsWorld
Thank you for your reply. I'm not up on the current Ohio law. It makes sense that the protection exists but is too vague. It also sounds like it needs protections for medical staff that are operating under emergent situations or boarder line instances.
The legislature then needs guidelines for typical occurrences at a minimum. These obviously should be made by a panel of board certified OBs to cover as many typical pregnancy risks as possible to provide ERs and OBs direction. Then the law should contain language to protect the good Samaritan OB or ER doc that needs to make an emergency decision to protect the life of a mother. It doesn't seem too difficult. Although the age of the mother being the issue may be one of the more challenging decisions for the panel. However, if the abortions are legal until 15 weeks then hopefully, there are very few cases where people need exceptions.
This Republican panelist is full of it. "It's been Republican ideal for decades that the exceptions be in place"... Except I have ALWAYS known those republicans that were intellectually honest about where those sets of beliefs lead you, and if it's murder, THEN IT'S ALWAYS F****** MURDER!
Listen, I strongly support abortion rights, but be f'ing honest about your beliefs. Don't follow a belief system until it becomes uncomfortable for you. Be consistent and at the very least stand up for the heinous things you push for. Don't be intellectually dishonest and push for softening the appearance of a very real and disturbing ideology.
The View should not be platforming this woman.
it frustrates her that her party cares about forced birth, but she still calls it her party
Lol that woman in the background wearing red looking into the camera when the non crazy lady started clarifying the disinformation; priceless
The band abortion but not gun's
*Kidney dialysis thought experiment:* Say you go out one night, party, get drunk, and you wake up the next morning hooked up to a kidney dialysis machine that's giving life to a guy in the bed next to you. You're told you must stay there, or he will die. Does anyone have the right to force you to stay plugged in to save this guy's life, or do you have the RIGHT to unplug yourself and walk away even though he WILL die?
I like your comparison you have the right on your body and yes nobody would tell you have To stay there but when its about abortion and foetus theyre right overrule all other rights doesnt make sense
Okay Jigsaw.....
Maybe put the metaphorical "plug" in a different "outlet" and there's no worries about needing "dialysis" 😉 😀 👍
@@RustyShackleford360 ...but you do agree that in a metaphor like this nobody would think youre the bad person for wanting out right? It may be only only a metaphor but still a good comparison
@@laurencebellemare4682 It's a comparison yes.....but not an ideal match. For one, the person who wakes up in a bed strapped to a machine isn't the same as a person who lays down in a bed voluntarily knowing what consequences may come out or the situation.
Now for this case about the little girl....I get it. It fits. But if we're being honest this is a very small percentage of what abortion is really used for.
@@RustyShackleford360 the percentage doesnt count all the woman that doesnt report the rape and it doesnt even matter what percentage doesnt matter the reason nobody does an abortion for fun and woman should be able to choose
That woman should not be there at all if she knew nothing about abortion. Shame on you lady, go back to school and learn more.
Not just 10 year old,an any year old rape victim should be allowed to have an abortion, adding insult to injury to not allow it.
It should be easely accessible for everyone if they make exception for rape then theyre gonna ask you To prove it To get an abortion and it Will get complicated why cant we choose for our own body