@Ayo Olulode Suddenly the valerians and the ice zombies seem weak. Gaint apes that dragon even avoids, two magician countries that avoid mutual destruction, a literal hell island.
It seems the show picked the least interesting place to set the story. Think of the description-a continent of warring humans fighting over a metal chair
I love how the world gets darker and more supernatural the further you venture from Westeros. You would think having a full map like this would make the GOT world less magical/mysterious but it only raises more questions which I think is awesome. Great job
Maxinov Marks I think he leaned onto the idea of Grrm that everything beyond westeros is seen from the perspective of a maester. And they can only Tell what others have said that’s why the further you go east, the more mysterious everything gets. Yi Ti for example where emperors are said to live 10.000 years etc. I feel like the creator of this video stayed with this view and created a really intriguing video! Great job
It's actually a great form of Orientalism and hints at the idea of Westeros and the Free Cities taking up the role of Europe in the world of Ice and Fire
It kind of reminds me of the "here be dragons" maps that were popular in medieval Europe. It was common to "fill in the blanks" with whatever their imagination could come up with. I think the fables presented here are an awesome parallel to our own point in history, in which the edges of maps were filled with the unknown, or filled with tales that could not be proved or disproved, which only added to the mystique. I would think a world that is in the midst of their own medieval period (for lack of a better term), would have similar maps. That is the great part of this, is that it makes sense for people of this place, in this time period of their history, to make maps filled with magic and unknowns, exactly like this.
Its from westeros point of view, which is based on what the summer islanders tell them In real world this happened too Swahili africans would tell arabs wild stories about inner africa to protect their trade routes from arabs directly trading with inner africans Try reading arab accounts on inner africa from 8th to 14th century, its not so different from westerosi accounts on southerous
imagine if they went to a world war (not a modern one, medieval one) think about westeros unified as one empire against the new empires of essos with the support of the Novii Empire or something like that
Lol jokes aside, I think Sothoryos should just be larger. Should reach the South Pole really, kinda reminds me of a super sized south America continent. Vast just jungles, mountain chains, deserts and frozen wastelands to the far south
Ah yes, Sothoryos, a land of great riches but also of great danger, rivers of carnivorous fish, jungles teeming with dangerous and unearthly life and ruined cities with evil powers dwelling amongst them. Oh and did I mention the sickness and pestilence? There was more but Puss-Eye and greyscale were the two big ones. Ahh tis a wicked land only for the darring or the foolish to traverse. :)
Anyone with any respect for the asoiaf universe should shutter at this ilogical nonesense. Intelligent flying species??? Lizard men? Jungles inhabited by King Kongs? How stupid..
@@TechnoMinarchist Westeros is nothing like the size of south america, perhaps the size of florida at the most, it took them how many days to walk between Winterfell and Kings Landing?, that being about 1/3rd the lengh of the place
I love how so many people, myself included, are more fascinated with fantasy history and geography compared to our own world. I'd love to watch a story unfold involving some of these other continents.
I'm a fantasy lover and history lover, and, well, real world history is just as cool as a fantasy world's history, Napoleon and the coalition wars, the Punic wars, the war of the roses, and so much more.
That’s actually somewhat sad. World history, the struggle of our ancestors has like the most amazing lore ever and it’s not even close. Like most fascinating things, stories and plots we see in fantasy worlds are directly inspired by world history. However I don’t blame all of you because history in school is mostly presented in a very boring way, also not that many good historical shows or movies exist. And these fantasy worlds are presented in a way that makes readers and/or viewers love it(that’s why I’m here)
I’ve always imagined the world wrapping around so that the Grey Waste near Yi Ti meets the Land of Always Winter. After all, the Five Forts in Yi Ti were built to protect against creatures that sound a lot like the Others.
Never expect GRRM to link up those two important details in the main books. These mysterious mythical places are there just to add a sense of.. well.. mystery. He's an asshole.
@@grzxcv98 Thats exactly where the series fucks up atm. Westeros has become super boring. The wight king was just ez. What's left now? "Will denaeris still rule or will it be john snuuu..? Will they still be able to love each other? bladibla" That's boring. I can already smell the "twists" coming.
If you take a look at old European maps (like 11-12th century old), you will see that in the places they knew there was land, but did not know anything about that land, they drew dragons and all sorts of creatures...same here, where people didn't know anything but the existence of land, they made up stories...GRRM declared that all the lands that they speak of in the story but never show up, are there in order to show how little people knew about the world
@@tranchmaster you know this dude made up the map right? What is outside canon shown here is this guy's impression not GRRM. He just double the monsters and demons.
@@lovebugsleephere A lot of the information in this video actually comes from the canon/lore novels written by GRRM and his ghost writers, even the information about Sothoryos is pretty spot- on with current validated lore. This guy just made the mistake of sorting all the show material into canon, while leaving book information in the non-canon category, thus making it look like he made it all up.
Actually if you look into it enough. It reveals that some of the iron born couldn’t have been from the first men because the first men didn’t have ships. That’s why they crossed on the arm of Dorne. But that’s just why I’ve come to conclude.
@@jayfeather965The fist men ruled Westeros for 2000 years before the andals, they made bronze weapons and built huge castles, and kingdoms rose and fel during this period of history. Do you really think they couldn't build some ships and sail to the Iron Isles? Just becouse they walked into Westeros on the Arm of Dorne doesn't mean they couldn't have crossed by ships. It is simply easier to move large groups of people by land than doing so by sea...
In my opinion the years are exaggerated. My belife is that the timeline is a lot shorter. All of those things could have easily happened in around 1000 maybe 2000 years. And by the way, the first men definitely had ships. There is a line about the North raiding Andalos. Also the iron islands are not very far.It may be posible to reach the islands with small boats. To conclude,if this were true,the andals tougth the ironborn the art of ship construcion,this sounds rediculius.
@@AcidTripOk The First Men were there a lot longer than 2000 years before the Andals invaded. The Andals invaded 2000 years before Aegon's Conquest and the Long Night happened 8000 years before the conquest. By then the First Men were already firmly established in Westeros.
same. George is never going to reveal anything more of the world. He might not even have any idea himself yet. So might as well take this as real, stills my curiosity.
Sothorios or whatever is semi canon it's just vastly unexplored. A targaryen princess apparently tried but gave up after weeks of flying south as it was as far south as Essos was east
It is very interesting, I remember the story about a valyrian dragonrider and she went further south to sothoryos and described it as "never ending jungles"
It does remind me of how European monks would make these wild and fascinating stories and drawings about lands far beyond the known world. GRRM does capture that aspect pretty well.
@@heavysaber9431 I was one of them until episode 3 sadly. Then my vision shattered and I was probably the one shouting the loudest because I was blinded by the spectacle for far too long and just gave them the benefit of the doubt waaaaay too often
Rift31 Why is it so necessary for you to have everyone trash the finale? If they like it, they like it. If you don’t, you don’t. Your acting like a child and it’s ridiculous. I thought it was both good (direction, effects, overall storyline) and bad (dialogue, plot points that went nowhere), but I’m not calling others names if they did or didn’t enjoy it as I did. Learn to accept other people have views and opinions that differ from yours.
RubelliteFae why tho ????? Dance with dragons HAVE an actual story and plot ??? Why the fuck would you want a story based on a place without any story ?????? Id much rather have duncan the tall or dance of dragons than some non GRRM martins story .
@@iliketofuckwomen1265 Because they can't mess up GRRM if they do their own thing in another location. If they repeat any of his books, people are going to winge like crazy again/
Imagine an open world sandbox videogame out of this. With westeros being the size of red dead redemption 2 map. And so on for the rest of the world. It wouls never end! It would be so magical and amazing. Or maybe a TV show where Arya explores the other magical lands in her journey west.
Omg imagine riding on a horse through the cities and doing quests in King's Landing and buying armor and heading north to the wall to do the White Walkers event that would be the sickest thing ever
Westerosi: "I'm somewhat concerned by who might sit on a spiky chair." Essosi: "I'm actively worried about the legions screaming men with swords on horseback." Sothoryosi: "eVerYThInG fEeLs LiKe bUrNiNG." Ulthosi: "FUCK. DOES IT HAVE WINGS. IT BEST NOT BE ABLE TO FUCKING FLY. How is everyone so calm about there being a LITERAL EVIL EMPIRE OF BIRD PEOPLE TO THE SOUTH."
I love the premise of this video being a conversation you have with a random trader at the tavern one night claiming to have heard a tale from a summer islander or something
@HolyMolyOllyPolly exactly, same as the "winged men" are most likely people with strange clothes resambling wings, or even people using some kind of hang gliders to travel long distances over the desert and mountains.
For now, Yi Ti was whole again, then it broke again, all thanks to themselves Anyone like Qyburn can uncurse the Cursed lands, if he survives... 8/10 needs more human civilizations to discover in the South, would add winged men colonies near the Novii and Ifqueveron
@@rainerbloedsinn182 Ay wat gut hingeschaut, hab mir shcon sowas gedacht das hier vielleicht auch insipration von anderen landkarten genommen wurde, aber haargenau aventurien reinzupacken. schon lustig. Aber warte...maraskan fehlt!!
@@grzxcv98 Yi Ti IS, well, dynastic China Currently in their Second Dynasty/ Civil Infighting (Golden Dawn broke during the Long Night) Can't wait to recreate the Warring States of Yi Ti!
@@jalomount they are only known as "winged men". there is no confirmation that they actually have wings. Reminder that in Medieval times European travellers made up all sorts of myths about the people and fauna of africa and asia, and grrm has said that the increasingly weird descriptions of places as you go further from the place the story is centered around is just to reflect this. In reality, sothoryos and ulthos are probably as "normal" as westeros and essos, just with basilisks and manticores instead of dragons and direwolves.
The ironborn are first men, and the Dornish are a mix of Andals, first men, and mostly Rhoynar. As for the Reach and Stormlands, they are mostly first men who adopted Andal culture.
The Vale, the Riverlands, the Reach, the Crownlands and the Westerlands are very Andal. I like to think of all the Southrons, The Stormlanders are closest to the First Men.
@@BronzetheGolden yeah stormlanders look like first mem too they just adopted new religion while westerlands, vale, reach, riverlands are andals and dorne is mix of all 3 rohniyae, andals and first men , north is complete first men
Holy shit, just when I thought the white walker was the toughest son of a bitch in GoT. There are thousands of more brutal creatures than it. Disney need to purchase the rights of GoT if we ever want to see the more tales of the non-canon lore. Since they are the richest mf company that can invest tons of series and movies. But they will make the series soft violence like Mandalorian, which is unacceptable
Not bad. That said, it would have helped to zoom in and label each part when covering a region then zoom out and in on the next one. As it's kind of hard to tell what's what as is.
@@einesteine198806 A bit more time for each piece of information would be nice yes given the amount as it can be somewhat hard to follow. Although there has to be a balance struck. This video has a lot of potential, but there's also room for improvement.
There have been tons of movies, tv shows of people living in fantastical worlds, strange islands, but I really like your Cursed lands information, I really hope there will be at least a movie, or at least a book written by George RR Martin on someone discovering and exploring a cursed place
In an interview about Sothyros (watchable on user Aegon Targaryen's channel), Martin mentions a continent north of Essos and Westeros called Norforyos. It's unspecified in canon maps, though, so just some food for thought.
That's a pretty attractive map. Judging from the comments, it's jogging people's imaginations. I've always loved how fantasy maps simply stop at a certain point without revealing the entirety of their world. Begs the brain to fill in patterns, etc. I remember reading LOTR as a kid and thinking I'd give anything to see more of what's South/East of Mordor. Tolkien eluded to it here and there and had some lore characters end up there or arrive from there, but the unknown quantities are important, too. Loving the attention to detail here.
you forget the series of Islands in the sunset sea that the North, three - four thousands ago colonized , that were cut off from Westeros due to a series of storms, and lack of contact.
Absolutely love the non-cannon material you created, but I can’t help but to think of the most likely, larger size of the planet. Since I remember a Targaryen was stated in one of the books to have flown on her dragon for three years over Sothoryos. Then saying how “it’s a land that never ends”. If I remember that correctly, then holy hell is this a massive planet
Really like the map makes a lot of sense but Sothoryos is a bit small and I think while the Novii are quite cool they're prolly a bit too high fantasy especially with them having such a developed civilisation would make them more tribal and more gritty probably but everything else really seems to fit in if of course imagined in a more low fantasy light.
micsulli19 Just some shit that someone made up. Not accurate at all. Everything outside the blue line is just from some random person’s imagination rather than from the actual source material in the show or the books.
Holy shit did you just make up almost 60% of an entire fucking planet? Whoa, that's impressive. You alone would have done a far better job than the showrunners, no doubt about that.
TL;DR: living anywhere except southern Westeros would suck ass. Can't go a day without some horse raider or lizardman or shadow monster fucking your shit up. I like how the further out you go, the more mythical the description is. I venture our ancestors thought the same way about the far reaches of their own maps.
@@mouton-jk9xm no, she started her adventure in King's Landing, so she will sail south and then west, after the Stepstones and Dorne she might stop in Oldtown and then if she sails right west (not north-west), she will arrive to that islands east from Sunrise Sea. Sorry for my bad english, I h
@@dontjudgemebymyname.4282 Westeros is literally just the United Kingdom turned around, turn Ireland upside down, make it bigger, turn it around, and shove it on the back of the UK. Then make the whole package the size of South-America, that's Westeros for you.
3:15 - "The Northerners [Summer Islanders] agree not to sail south of the Southern Isles, and in turn, the Southerners agree not to sail north of Naath. Instead, they choose to trade with each other and their respective worlds." 3:35 - "...it is home to two island kingdoms who were set up with the help of the Summer Islanders to reach exotic resources from southern Sothoryos and the Black March..."
@@davesdinnerz9243 The northerners are Summer Islanders. The southerners are Southern Islanders. The Summer Islanders agreed not to go south of the Southern Isles. The Southern Islanders agreed not to go north of Naath.
@@Sindraug25 nope, summer islanders are the cultural/ethic group. It says the Northern argeed not to go south of the Southern Isles. Both the southerners and northerners are Summer Islanders
If I were a billionaire, I would enthusiastically invest in expanding the universe crafted by George R.R. Martin. His meticulously constructed alternate history is a goldmine of storytelling potential. A television series delving into the enigmatic Yi Ti, a civilization eclipsing both Valyria and Westeros in terms of scale and influence, could be a groundbreaking endeavor. These vast, unexplored territories offer a tantalizing opportunity to create epic narratives and complex characters. It's intriguing how Westeros parallels medieval Europe, with its insular worldview and belief in cultural superiority, mirroring the ethnocentric perspectives prevalent during the European Age of Exploration.
They should make a Skyrim like game encompassing the entire map of game of thrones, where the players will be free to travel by ships,horse,dragons, hunt demons build cities wage wars, start their own faction. Free to enslave or save the varied nations. Rpg ish game of thrones game with all the mentioned races in the book
zulkarnain ahh thats a little unrealistic for the time being don’t ya think. Many size comparisons between the elder scrolls universe show that Skyrim is like half the size of the north and it took them for ever to make that game. Westeros is kinda bigger than Tamriel if it was a square, and that would just take for ever to create the ENTIRE map. Probs like 50 years hah
@@apomtaylor8054 yeh bro i don't care about the time I'm young enough to stick around for that to happen, I mean I really wanna game like that, have you seen AC odyssey that game has the map of entire Greece who knows maybe in next 15 to 20 years that might be possible , I mean gaming tech has already taken massive strides.
As much as over half the info was made up and I kinda look sideways at the made-up non-canon lore of winged men and lizard men, the actual geography was impressive and it would be really cool if George R.R. Martin actually used it to expand the world, even if he might heavily change the lore of each place.
This isn't even real at all, this is all that we know exists in A Song of Ice And Fire/Game of Thrones: imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/fan/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwinteriscoming.net%2Ffiles%2F2015%2F10%2FOfficial-Map-A-Song-of-Ice-and-Fire.jpg&c=sc&w=850&h=560
@@VologdaMapping In Warhammer Lustria in the south has Lizard men, in the east in Warhammer we have Nippon (which is like Japan). The mountains that divide Essos or rather the Dorthraki grasslands in the middle (can't remember which) are the mountains exactly in the same continent in Warhammer i.e. 'The Eastern Steppes' where the goblins live in the mountains etc The Lands of Always Winter are where the Chaos hordes live, in all fairness the undead in Warhammer are in the equivalent place of Eastern Europe so not quite the same as GoT world.
Dave Dogge Strange, I supose fantasy worlds are quite similar, I recognise much of what I wrote is cliche but I certainly didn’t copy Warhammer on purpose
At this point, I don't care how G.R.R.M comes up with his story. Clearly his a genius. I'm just amazed, and grateful to His wife for putting up with him. And giving him the space he needs.🙏🙏
Quote from Summer Isles entry from A Wiki of Ice and Fire (which comes from The World of Ice and Fire): "For much of their recorded history, the Summer Islanders lived in isolation from the rest of the known world, and they were apparently unaware that other lands and peoples existed." Your made up lore from 3:15: "The Southern Isles are a group of islands inhabited by the two groups ethnically similar to their northern neighbors, they have a long history of trade wars between them, but the last five hundred years have been peaceful." The Summer Isles are isolated. Period. This non-canon map contradicts the canon. Also you should at least give credit to the person who made this map. You are just stealing somebody's hard work and it's wrong. Even if they violate the lore.
I did give credit in the description, and as for the canon contradiction I supose we’ll have to assume that their enemies to the south told them that there is nothing but Ocean ahead to keep them from establishing trade routes in their territory, they wanted to keep Sothoryos and the Lizard Isles secret.
@Admire Kashiri For a very long time people from the Summer Isles believed that there are no more lands in the world. That means that they are isolated. No Southern Isles, or at least they should be very far from the Summer Isles. Period.
@Admire Kashiri Their islands are situated thousands of miles away from other lands. That means they are isolated. For a very long time their whole known world were Summer Islands. For a very long time they were able to build only ships which let them only travel between Summer Island. After some time they learned to build better ships, which allowed them to travel thousands of miles away from their territory. That let them learn about Westeros and Essos etc Do you understand what I'm saying? My whole point is: put Southern Isles thousand miles away from the Summer Islands. because the map from the video suggests that people of the Summer Isles can quite easily get to Sothorys and it violates the fucking lore
In the opening credits, there’s a land mass on the other end of the sunset sea, parallel with both Essos and Westeros - yet no non-canonic maps show this. The only things that seem to come close is the Lands of always winter being connected between both Westeros and Essos; the Cursed Islands believed, by those of the Summerset Isles, to be home to the deep ones; Ulthos connected to Sothoryos; and the Islands in the East.
It's such a Shame that all you've made up isn't Canon, it's so cool and well thought out. I like the further you go into the unknown world the more mystical and eerie it gets :D
I appreciate your efforts, it's a pretty well thought map. But may I suggest to tone down the magical elements? The reason why is even in the real world, there were exaggerated stories about the eastern/western worlds before and during the age of exploration. These kind of stories may exists in planetos, which makes ordinary stuffs to be "magical" It may be possible that the winged man civilization is nothing more but a civilization that recently discovered air balloon etc anyway, that's just my thoughts and feel free to do anything with it. Nevertheless, good video!
It gets more magical as it gets further away from westeros, just like how europeans viewed the rest of the unknown world to be fantastical, in reality these civilizations are just humans painting themselves green or wearing lizard skin
I Putu Satyena Pande the magical elements follow the same way that GRRM has explained most of the canon world outside Westeros & some of Essos. This is all written from the POV of the Westerosi, so obviously they would know next to nothing about most of the world outside their continent and nearby lands. Maps were had just as many “magical elements” in our world during the Middle Ages.
Keep in mind that, in GRRM's words, all the stories and cultures we know from around the world, are explained to us through the perspectives and tellings of our westerosii maesters, who might have ended up distorting feasible realities into fantastic myths
Sothoryos is supposed to be way larger than Essos, but I'd assume Ulthos is probably also another massive continent and there's supposed to be an undiscovered continent west of Westoros and it isn't the edge of Essos or Ulthos.
I did not know that the world of ice and fire was so large. I am really damn curious now. I wonder how a westerossi would react seeing a winged or a lizard man. And I thought that ashai was strange and mysterious...
Most of the things named in the video is fanfiction though and never mentioned or confirmed by grr martin. It's just people inventing extra stuff for fun. Ulthos and Sothoryos for example are mentioned but it's unknown how the continents look like and how big they are (map in video is fanmade)
Bulgarian empire mapping hate to be a killjoy but most probably all of those legends about giant animals, winged men etc are not true at all. If the story is told from the perspective of a Westeros person then obviously the further away from Westeros, the legends are gonna get more and more mysterious. Kind of how Europeans imagined the Far East or the new world to be
Could someone who knows how to mod make this map in one or more Paradox games(Imperator Rome, Crusader Kong’s, Europa Universalis, Victoria and Hearts of Iron). Each continent is somewhat represented here. The furthest left is North America. South America is three islands Westeros is Europe. Continent below it is Africa. Continent to the right is Asia and large continent to the southeast corner is Australia.
George R.R. Martin: "Hey, this would be a perfect setup for an 18 century sequel!" And thus Game of colonies was born
[cries in Winds of Winterese]
Lannister Colonial Empire
Oh geez, GoC slavery, GoC native American genicide, got made famines on GoC India, GoT repressions and massacres. That's be fun. :/
When the Game of Thrones becomes the Great Game
eu4 has a mod for that
Watching this while thinking of Arya going west of Westeros.
Me: "Oh no"
Same. 😅😂😂
Non-Canon
@Niko Dany should have gone easterly with her dragons. Tsk.
Well it turned out fine.in the episodes
ironborn niggas: LMAO :D
I just love stuff like that. It makes all Westeros's wars so small and pety. My imagination goes like crazy
It also makes the long night seem meaningless.
@@Anonumos20 why???
@Ayo Olulode Suddenly the valerians and the ice zombies seem weak. Gaint apes that dragon even avoids, two magician countries that avoid mutual destruction, a literal hell island.
It seems the show picked the least interesting place to set the story. Think of the description-a continent of warring humans fighting over a metal chair
Anthony Arena for us humans it’s the most relatable story
I love how the world gets darker and more supernatural the further you venture from Westeros. You would think having a full map like this would make the GOT world less magical/mysterious but it only raises more questions which I think is awesome. Great job
Maxinov Marks I think he leaned onto the idea of Grrm that everything beyond westeros is seen from the perspective of a maester. And they can only Tell what others have said that’s why the further you go east, the more mysterious everything gets. Yi Ti for example where emperors are said to live 10.000 years etc.
I feel like the creator of this video stayed with this view and created a really intriguing video! Great job
It's actually a great form of Orientalism and hints at the idea of Westeros and the Free Cities taking up the role of Europe in the world of Ice and Fire
It kind of reminds me of the "here be dragons" maps that were popular in medieval Europe. It was common to "fill in the blanks" with whatever their imagination could come up with. I think the fables presented here are an awesome parallel to our own point in history, in which the edges of maps were filled with the unknown, or filled with tales that could not be proved or disproved, which only added to the mystique. I would think a world that is in the midst of their own medieval period (for lack of a better term), would have similar maps. That is the great part of this, is that it makes sense for people of this place, in this time period of their history, to make maps filled with magic and unknowns, exactly like this.
Its from westeros point of view, which is based on what the summer islanders tell them
In real world this happened too
Swahili africans would tell arabs wild stories about inner africa to protect their trade routes from arabs directly trading with inner africans
Try reading arab accounts on inner africa from 8th to 14th century, its not so different from westerosi accounts on southerous
imagine if they went to a world war (not a modern one, medieval one) think about westeros unified as one empire against the new empires of essos with the support of the Novii Empire or something like that
This would make an excellent RPG game
I had a GOT WoW vibe to this, would definitely play
They should do it. Like a final fantasy game. It would be awesome!
No, let George R.R. Martin create real lore, that would be much better than this poorly done fanfiction.
I wanna see a mount and blade mod for this, which include these land scapes, it’ll look so good
Always thought that.
Sothoryos suppose to be ver large,even a valyrian girl and her dragon fly for 3 years and didnt even find the end of Sothoryos
Two dragons couldn't even find the big Iron fleet with black sails right beneath them. So, wouldn't be surprised if Valyrians just suck at navigation.
@@TilanusCommodor roasted
@@TilanusCommodor ouch
Lol jokes aside, I think Sothoryos should just be larger. Should reach the South Pole really, kinda reminds me of a super sized south America continent. Vast just jungles, mountain chains, deserts and frozen wastelands to the far south
Ah yes, Sothoryos, a land of great riches but also of great danger, rivers of carnivorous fish, jungles teeming with dangerous and unearthly life and ruined cities with evil powers dwelling amongst them. Oh and did I mention the sickness and pestilence? There was more but Puss-Eye and greyscale were the two big ones. Ahh tis a wicked land only for the darring or the foolish to traverse. :)
Westerosi: "We fear white walker"
Essosi: "We fear the other and long night"
Ulthosi: *E2M1 music played*
Imagine living there. Bird people, orcs, demons, Wyverns, dragons, all of which can attack your village and kill your entire family any day
Ulthos is Warhammer
The non-canon lore almost reminds me of Warhammer, I like it.
It’s like rediscovering the lost fantasy lore
Blood for the Bloodgod!
God I want a Warhammer HBO show
Omg, maybe because both are the copy-paste of the world map?
Anyone with any respect for the asoiaf universe should shutter at this ilogical nonesense. Intelligent flying species??? Lizard men? Jungles inhabited by King Kongs? How stupid..
That is a bigger map than I expected.
It's the one thst people believe is the map of the world
Considering that Westeros is the size of South America, this world is a lot larger than Earth.
@@TechnoMinarchist Westeros is nothing like the size of south america, perhaps the size of florida at the most, it took them how many days to walk between Winterfell and Kings Landing?, that being about 1/3rd the lengh of the place
@@Zaph0d According to GRRM Westeros IS the size of South America.
@@Zaph0d The show doesn't portray this very well. In fact it often ignores it.
I love how so many people, myself included, are more fascinated with fantasy history and geography compared to our own world. I'd love to watch a story unfold involving some of these other continents.
You should read the tales of Greek men traveling to the north or the other Europeans to other parts of the world, it will blow your mind.
@@JohnMiller-zr8pl Any suggestions?
I'm a fantasy lover and history lover, and, well, real world history is just as cool as a fantasy world's history, Napoleon and the coalition wars, the Punic wars, the war of the roses, and so much more.
That’s actually somewhat sad. World history, the struggle of our ancestors has like the most amazing lore ever and it’s not even close.
Like most fascinating things, stories and plots we see in fantasy worlds are directly inspired by world history.
However I don’t blame all of you because history in school is mostly presented in a very boring way, also not that many good historical shows or movies exist.
And these fantasy worlds are presented in a way that makes readers and/or viewers love it(that’s why I’m here)
Well, we love phantasy because it is inspired by real world history. The Dothraki are nothing else but the Mongol horselords.
I’ve always imagined the world wrapping around so that the Grey Waste near Yi Ti meets the Land of Always Winter. After all, the Five Forts in Yi Ti were built to protect against creatures that sound a lot like the Others.
And legends like Azor Ahai in the east makes sense
That might have been the case during the last Long Night, but the man himself GRRM says that they are not.
Never expect GRRM to link up those two important details in the main books. These mysterious mythical places are there just to add a sense of.. well.. mystery.
He's an asshole.
@@grzxcv98 Thats exactly where the series fucks up atm. Westeros has become super boring. The wight king was just ez. What's left now? "Will denaeris still rule or will it be john snuuu..? Will they still be able to love each other? bladibla" That's boring. I can already smell the "twists" coming.
@@Ernthir have your expectations been subverted enough?
False! We all know to the south is middle earth and to the east is Tamriel!
Add The Witcher world to this and you have the greatest fantasy planet ever.
@@santaria19 Then we also need to add Azeroth
thats exactly what i thought
imagine lotr dwarfs meeting tyrion or jon fighting orcs
santaria19 geralt vs a white walker :D
That would split the planet in half lol
So everywhere else outside canon is just demons and wyverns 😂
If you take a look at old European maps (like 11-12th century old), you will see that in the places they knew there was land, but did not know anything about that land, they drew dragons and all sorts of creatures...same here, where people didn't know anything but the existence of land, they made up stories...GRRM declared that all the lands that they speak of in the story but never show up, are there in order to show how little people knew about the world
@@tranchmaster you know this dude made up the map right? What is outside canon shown here is this guy's impression not GRRM. He just double the monsters and demons.
@@lovebugsleephere A lot of the information in this video actually comes from the canon/lore novels written by GRRM and his ghost writers, even the information about Sothoryos is pretty spot- on with current validated lore. This guy just made the mistake of sorting all the show material into canon, while leaving book information in the non-canon category, thus making it look like he made it all up.
@@goodvibes7861 I'm not talking about continents.
Wyverns are in sothoryos doe
By the way, the Ironborn descend from First Men and are not a distinct ethnic group.
Actually if you look into it enough. It reveals that some of the iron born couldn’t have been from the first men because the first men didn’t have ships. That’s why they crossed on the arm of Dorne. But that’s just why I’ve come to conclude.
@@jayfeather965The fist men ruled Westeros for 2000 years before the andals, they made bronze weapons and built huge castles, and kingdoms rose and fel during this period of history. Do you really think they couldn't build some ships and sail to the Iron Isles? Just becouse they walked into Westeros on the Arm of Dorne doesn't mean they couldn't have crossed by ships. It is simply easier to move large groups of people by land than doing so by sea...
Originally, yes. However, many of them today are Andals who adopted the Drowned God after conquering the original inhabitants.
In my opinion the years are exaggerated.
My belife is that the timeline is a lot shorter.
All of those things could have easily happened in around 1000 maybe 2000 years.
And by the way, the first men definitely had ships.
There is a line about the North raiding Andalos.
Also the iron islands are not very far.It may be posible to reach the islands with small boats.
To conclude,if this were true,the andals tougth the ironborn the art of ship construcion,this sounds rediculius.
@@AcidTripOk The First Men were there a lot longer than 2000 years before the Andals invaded. The Andals invaded 2000 years before Aegon's Conquest and the Long Night happened 8000 years before the conquest. By then the First Men were already firmly established in Westeros.
Until proven false, I declare this Canon.
same. George is never going to reveal anything more of the world. He might not even have any idea himself yet. So might as well take this as real, stills my curiosity.
@@deckie_ considering he might dying before the book is completed I don't think the rest of the world is ever gonna be revealed.
@@gkagara true
Sothorios or whatever is semi canon it's just vastly unexplored. A targaryen princess apparently tried but gave up after weeks of flying south as it was as far south as Essos was east
This has nothing to do with asoiaf. Who ever made this up clearly has a very poor understanding of the universe.
I prefer to believe that Sothoryos is more expansive and is dominated by Dinosaurs as GRRM hints at when Euron talks about his travels there.
Yeah, from what we know about Sothoryos it is way bigger.
It is very interesting, I remember the story about a valyrian dragonrider and she went further south to sothoryos and described it as "never ending jungles"
Its clearly Jurassic Park where the Velociraptors evolved to human intelligent but still a deadly beast.
Yeah, they describe a great lizard just like if it was a velociraptor. In the book, the world of ice and fire.
@@heavysaber9431 valyrian girl probably got lost and went circles
It does remind me of how European monks would make these wild and fascinating stories and drawings about lands far beyond the known world. GRRM does capture that aspect pretty well.
That's how it's supposed to be the reason everything seems so bizarre and strange is bc it's supposed to viewed from a westerosi pov
That is why in old maps there is a dragon or a serpent surrounding the map. "Here be dragons" means that is the edge of a map.
This is beautiful, I literally don't give a shit if it's real or not because the show writers don't either :) well done, I love it
burn!
@@natanliber9592 just facts!
@@heavysaber9431 I was one of them until episode 3 sadly. Then my vision shattered and I was probably the one shouting the loudest because I was blinded by the spectacle for far too long and just gave them the benefit of the doubt waaaaay too often
Rift31
Why is it so necessary for you to have everyone trash the finale? If they like it, they like it. If you don’t, you don’t. Your acting like a child and it’s ridiculous. I thought it was both good (direction, effects, overall storyline) and bad (dialogue, plot points that went nowhere), but I’m not calling others names if they did or didn’t enjoy it as I did.
Learn to accept other people have views and opinions that differ from yours.
Well the show is basically fan fiction itself as well.
Everyone's talking about a GoT spin-off series. I want to see one set in the Yi Ti area and the Further East
RubelliteFae why tho ????? Dance with dragons HAVE an actual story and plot ??? Why the fuck would you want a story based on a place without any story ?????? Id much rather have duncan the tall or dance of dragons than some non GRRM martins story .
maybe asians could direct a Yi Ti show xD. Easy casting just put some cones on some asian's heads.
@@iliketofuckwomen1265 Because they can't mess up GRRM if they do their own thing in another location. If they repeat any of his books, people are going to winge like crazy again/
RubelliteFae
Because you’re a weebo and that sounds Asian as fuck to you so you like it
Is basically china
Imagine an open world sandbox videogame out of this. With westeros being the size of red dead redemption 2 map. And so on for the rest of the world. It wouls never end! It would be so magical and amazing. Or maybe a TV show where Arya explores the other magical lands in her journey west.
pray for it
Omg imagine riding on a horse through the cities and doing quests in King's Landing and buying armor and heading north to the wall to do the White Walkers event that would be the sickest thing ever
Westeros would be the size of about six RDR2 maps, with Mexico from rdr1.
That would be amazing. And it should take days just to leave Westeros.
Part of the magic is the unknown...so let's leave it as it is.
You did a good job making your non-canon additions seem like they could be part of the _Game of Thrones_ universe.
Westerosi: "I'm somewhat concerned by who might sit on a spiky chair."
Essosi: "I'm actively worried about the legions screaming men with swords on horseback."
Sothoryosi: "eVerYThInG fEeLs LiKe bUrNiNG."
Ulthosi: "FUCK. DOES IT HAVE WINGS. IT BEST NOT BE ABLE TO FUCKING FLY. How is everyone so calm about there being a LITERAL EVIL EMPIRE OF BIRD PEOPLE TO THE SOUTH."
I love the premise of this video being a conversation you have with a random trader at the tavern one night claiming to have heard a tale from a summer islander or something
where does the non canon info come from?
Read the description
@@VologdaMapping Is it yours? I thought there was an expanded universe that I didn't know about. Congrats, that was great.
western province of california Completely made up yes:) glad you like it
That would be a 'duh' on your part. Read the accompanying text.
Vologda Mapping euron said in the show there was 14 seas i see only 9 on the map
When you think about it, Westeros, despite all of its shitty problems actually seems like one of the safest places on the map.
Your fan-fic civs are too steeped in magic and the fantastical.
Unless you interpret their description as Westerosi information. Notice how they get ever more magical the further they are from Westeros.
@@tyranid13 agreed, that's the tone of things in canon stuff as well
Christopher Vialls Thank you for that reference.
@@cv4981 yeah like how Europeans thought central to South Africans had no head but rather a face on their belly
@HolyMolyOllyPolly exactly, same as the "winged men" are most likely people with strange clothes resambling wings, or even people using some kind of hang gliders to travel long distances over the desert and mountains.
For now, Yi Ti was whole again, then it broke again, all thanks to themselves
Anyone like Qyburn can uncurse the Cursed lands, if he survives...
8/10 needs more human civilizations to discover in the South, would add winged men colonies near the Novii and Ifqueveron
And if Qyburn ever uncursed the Cursed Lands he would get a continent known as Aventuria: de.wiki-aventurica.de/wiki/Aventurien
@@rainerbloedsinn182 Ay wat gut hingeschaut, hab mir shcon sowas gedacht das hier vielleicht auch insipration von anderen landkarten genommen wurde, aber haargenau aventurien reinzupacken. schon lustig. Aber warte...maraskan fehlt!!
Yi Ti sounds like China
@@grzxcv98 Yi Ti IS, well, dynastic China
Currently in their Second Dynasty/ Civil Infighting (Golden Dawn broke during the Long Night)
Can't wait to recreate the Warring States of Yi Ti!
@Mayo R-H sad, only commented that the day I watched this before Qybern die that night of this upload
How I've always imagined the rest of the map was basically straight line continents that keep going and going till they loop in on each other.
Haha
Arya is 101% getting eaten alive by some lovecraftian monster 💀
This map and description just made the world of Ice and fire very scary
I want to see these lizard men and bird men 😂😂 loved the non canon stuff
The winged men are canon they are in a city far to the east on the canon map
@@jalomount they are only known as "winged men". there is no confirmation that they actually have wings. Reminder that in Medieval times European travellers made up all sorts of myths about the people and fauna of africa and asia, and grrm has said that the increasingly weird descriptions of places as you go further from the place the story is centered around is just to reflect this. In reality, sothoryos and ulthos are probably as "normal" as westeros and essos, just with basilisks and manticores instead of dragons and direwolves.
I read that in canon the WInged Men wore stage-prop-type wings but could not fly like dragons can.
The ironborn are first men, and the Dornish are a mix of Andals, first men, and mostly Rhoynar.
As for the Reach and Stormlands, they are mostly first men who adopted Andal culture.
The Vale, the Riverlands, the Reach, the Crownlands and the Westerlands are very Andal. I like to think of all the Southrons, The Stormlanders are closest to the First Men.
@@BronzetheGolden yeah stormlanders look like first mem too they just adopted new religion while westerlands, vale, reach, riverlands are andals and dorne is mix of all 3 rohniyae, andals and first men , north is complete first men
@@hiddendagger7291 I think Dorne is Salt and Sand Dornishmen are Rhoynar while Stone Dornishmen are Andals and First Men but yea.
the stormland are first men with valyria. Baratheons are the bastard branch of the targaryen´s
Holy shit, just when I thought the white walker was the toughest son of a bitch in GoT. There are thousands of more brutal creatures than it. Disney need to purchase the rights of GoT if we ever want to see the more tales of the non-canon lore. Since they are the richest mf company that can invest tons of series and movies. But they will make the series soft violence like Mandalorian, which is unacceptable
Not bad.
That said, it would have helped to zoom in and label each part when covering a region then zoom out and in on the next one.
As it's kind of hard to tell what's what as is.
Would of been good if the information was up for longer than 3 seconds so I could read without pausing all the tim
@@einesteine198806 A bit more time for each piece of information would be nice yes given the amount as it can be somewhat hard to follow.
Although there has to be a balance struck.
This video has a lot of potential, but there's also room for improvement.
Yeap, exactly this
There have been tons of movies, tv shows of people living in fantastical worlds, strange islands, but I really like your Cursed lands information, I really hope there will be at least a movie, or at least a book written by George RR Martin on someone discovering and exploring a cursed place
In an interview about Sothyros (watchable on user Aegon Targaryen's channel), Martin mentions a continent north of Essos and Westeros called Norforyos. It's unspecified in canon maps, though, so just some food for thought.
I think he was mentioning to the lands of always winter
Really want a HBO series of all these areas, the non canon stuff in the east was especially good
Westeros is just 7 times the size of England.
That's a pretty attractive map. Judging from the comments, it's jogging people's imaginations. I've always loved how fantasy maps simply stop at a certain point without revealing the entirety of their world. Begs the brain to fill in patterns, etc. I remember reading LOTR as a kid and thinking I'd give anything to see more of what's South/East of Mordor. Tolkien eluded to it here and there and had some lore characters end up there or arrive from there, but the unknown quantities are important, too. Loving the attention to detail here.
Maybe, and I say maybe you could warn to play it at 0,25 speed...
The music is horrifying
Fernando García Orza it’s in the description
@@Jlnchp you are right, I saw it later...
He said each frame 10 sec
Scary map as hell
you forget the series of Islands in the sunset sea that the North, three - four thousands ago colonized , that were cut off from Westeros due to a series of storms, and lack of contact.
Yeah that girl that took a dragon and flew west and found 3 islands that she named after targaryens
@Paul some story i have heard idk
cannot describe my feelings about this... I just love it... I feel have the opposite feeling from the one I had in season 8 of got!! thanks
Absolutely love the non-cannon material you created, but I can’t help but to think of the most likely, larger size of the planet. Since I remember a Targaryen was stated in one of the books to have flown on her dragon for three years over Sothoryos. Then saying how “it’s a land that never ends”. If I remember that correctly, then holy hell is this a massive planet
Can you imagine a video game were you try to conquer the areas and unite the world
No
Really like the map makes a lot of sense but Sothoryos is a bit small and I think while the Novii are quite cool they're prolly a bit too high fantasy especially with them having such a developed civilisation would make them more tribal and more gritty probably but everything else really seems to fit in if of course imagined in a more low fantasy light.
Really makes you realise how shit an entire army of dead were when you consider how much land they conquered
How accurate is this? Where do the "non-canonical" lands come from?
His imagination I guess
micsulli19 Just some shit that someone made up. Not accurate at all. Everything outside the blue line is just from some random person’s imagination rather than from the actual source material in the show or the books.
It's extremely inaccurate, this map comes from reddit
Holy shit did you just make up almost 60% of an entire fucking planet? Whoa, that's impressive. You alone would have done a far better job than the showrunners, no doubt about that.
Do nirn from the elder scrolls next
Well, that'd be easy, except.. We have no idea what Akavir looks like, and most of the info we have is from a failed conquest by Uriel Septim V.
@@Asbjorn268 Atmora, Yokuda. Aldmeris, LYG, Esroniet Archipelago
@@Asbjorn268 Might I Direct You To The Elder Kings Mod For CKII.
The thing is that Nirn is way bigger than Aakavir and Tamriel. I'm pretty sure it says somewhere something about this...
@@takkorinus7909 yup, nirn is the planet while tamriel and akavir are continents
I’ve just realised that the main map of got is just Europe and Africa rotated 90 degrees counter clockwise
Mossovy sounds like magic Russians
TL;DR: living anywhere except southern Westeros would suck ass. Can't go a day without some horse raider or lizardman or shadow monster fucking your shit up.
I like how the further out you go, the more mythical the description is. I venture our ancestors thought the same way about the far reaches of their own maps.
Arya’s story probably ends in her dying on the cursed continent.
she's going to sail off the edge of planetos
Episodes are out now find out there from the same youtuber
@John Smith I'd take those curse lands before Detroit any day.
I think she will arrive to near mossaovy
@@mouton-jk9xm no, she started her adventure in King's Landing, so she will sail south and then west, after the Stepstones and Dorne she might stop in Oldtown and then if she sails right west (not north-west), she will arrive to that islands east from Sunrise Sea. Sorry for my bad english, I h
3:06
"To the south lies the heavily forested Monkey Island"
Is Guybrush Threepweed there?
The island in sunrise sea is Japan, yes.
And the Asshai is India.
But west of nippon kinda screws up
@@dontjudgemebymyname.4282 Westeros is literally just the United Kingdom turned around, turn Ireland upside down, make it bigger, turn it around, and shove it on the back of the UK. Then make the whole package the size of South-America, that's Westeros for you.
3:15 - "The Northerners [Summer Islanders] agree not to sail south of the Southern Isles, and in turn, the Southerners agree not to sail north of Naath. Instead, they choose to trade with each other and their respective worlds."
3:35 - "...it is home to two island kingdoms who were set up with the help of the Summer Islanders to reach exotic resources from southern Sothoryos and the Black March..."
What's the problem? The southerners are also Summer Islanders
@@davesdinnerz9243 The northerners are Summer Islanders. The southerners are Southern Islanders. The Summer Islanders agreed not to go south of the Southern Isles. The Southern Islanders agreed not to go north of Naath.
@@Sindraug25 nope, summer islanders are the cultural/ethic group. It says the Northern argeed not to go south of the Southern Isles. Both the southerners and northerners are Summer Islanders
ok this was awesome actually. My imagination went wild seeing this. Thanks!
Lizard Men = Argonian
i'm looking forward to this series
My map powers have doubled since the last time we met
You should add the islands Elissa Farman discovered to the map. :)
Ye, named after the 3 Targs
They are probaly too small to be shown in map like Islands in pacific
the canon map edges is like seeing a fucking monster peak its head above the water and just thinking, what the fuck could that shit be?
The mind of GRRM is impeccable. I hope he lives more healthy years to create more masterpieces. What a man.
Most of this is not made by him, you do reallize, thats what the "non canon" area is, made by the videomaker not george.
If I were a billionaire, I would enthusiastically invest in expanding the universe crafted by George R.R. Martin. His meticulously constructed alternate history is a goldmine of storytelling potential. A television series delving into the enigmatic Yi Ti, a civilization eclipsing both Valyria and Westeros in terms of scale and influence, could be a groundbreaking endeavor. These vast, unexplored territories offer a tantalizing opportunity to create epic narratives and complex characters. It's intriguing how Westeros parallels medieval Europe, with its insular worldview and belief in cultural superiority, mirroring the ethnocentric perspectives prevalent during the European Age of Exploration.
They should make a Skyrim like game encompassing the entire map of game of thrones, where the players will be free to travel by ships,horse,dragons, hunt demons build cities wage wars, start their own faction. Free to enslave or save the varied nations. Rpg ish game of thrones game with all the mentioned races in the book
zulkarnain ahh thats a little unrealistic for the time being don’t ya think. Many size comparisons between the elder scrolls universe show that Skyrim is like half the size of the north and it took them for ever to make that game.
Westeros is kinda bigger than Tamriel if it was a square, and that would just take for ever to create the ENTIRE map. Probs like 50 years hah
@@apomtaylor8054 yeh bro i don't care about the time I'm young enough to stick around for that to happen, I mean I really wanna game like that, have you seen AC odyssey that game has the map of entire Greece who knows maybe in next 15 to 20 years that might be possible , I mean gaming tech has already taken massive strides.
what I'm gleaning from this is the further away you get from westeros, the weirder shit gets
Map seems a bit off? It looks like the land masses are not being distorted by this type of map projection
This assuming that the GoT world is on a spherical planet, it is unknown if this is the case or not.
@@GastonBoucher well fair enough but what is the point of having a realistic fantasy story if the world isn't even shaped normally ?
@@Sizzox That sounds like a question for GRRM, I don't know the answer, just stating a fact.
@@GastonBoucher oh fuck off with your none spherical planets
@dirt man It's fantasy, don't be so quick to assume stuff.
Please keep making these!!
As much as over half the info was made up and I kinda look sideways at the made-up non-canon lore of winged men and lizard men, the actual geography was impressive and it would be really cool if George R.R. Martin actually used it to expand the world, even if he might heavily change the lore of each place.
im pretty sure its from westerossi perspective further from westeros more fantastical it gets
@@niceboi4592 I guess so. Real Medieval Europe was similar.
@@timothyissler3815 true
I think the winged men are canon, even tho obscure and probably shrouded by myths
Meanwhile, Arya is sailing west : "Sea... sea... more sea... Oh, a black edge!"
So game of thrones is the story of 1 demon descending from the north into the realm of men? Westeros seems so lame now
Well actually there are stuff like that in essos too and in yi ti they have something like the wall called the 5 forts
The Others were supposed to be a worldwide threat to humanity, not just one guy and his buddies one day deciding to take over Westeros.
This isn't even real at all, this is all that we know exists in A Song of Ice And Fire/Game of Thrones: imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/fan/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwinteriscoming.net%2Ffiles%2F2015%2F10%2FOfficial-Map-A-Song-of-Ice-and-Fire.jpg&c=sc&w=850&h=560
Hey boi, awesome video!
You should write fanfics about this lands and their societies, I think they look really interesting
The world of ice and fire is ripe with settings that could make for a good book! There has to be more stories made out of from this interesting world!
The author just kept on increasing the map so, that he can introduce a new climax and another Boost to the story
Haha ! the non canon is taken straight from Warhammer Fantasy Battle.
Dave Dogge Which parts? I made it all up myself and I know nothing about Warhammer.
@@VologdaMapping In Warhammer Lustria in the south has Lizard men, in the east in Warhammer we have Nippon (which is like Japan). The mountains that divide Essos or rather the Dorthraki grasslands in the middle (can't remember which) are the mountains exactly in the same continent in Warhammer i.e. 'The Eastern Steppes' where the goblins live in the mountains etc The Lands of Always Winter are where the Chaos hordes live, in all fairness the undead in Warhammer are in the equivalent place of Eastern Europe so not quite the same as GoT world.
Dave Dogge Strange, I supose fantasy worlds are quite similar, I recognise much of what I wrote is cliche but I certainly didn’t copy Warhammer on purpose
Fantasy worlds based on our actual planet tend to be similar.
Thank for this map.
Looks like "The Adventures of No One" could be quite interesting.
"The Adventures of No One" :: "Nobody" or "No-one" in Latin is "Nemo" :: Jules Verne wrote about him.
At this point, I don't care how G.R.R.M comes up with his story. Clearly his a genius. I'm just amazed, and grateful to His wife for putting up with him. And giving him the space he needs.🙏🙏
Damn so many apes in that world
Quote from Summer Isles entry from A Wiki of Ice and Fire (which comes from The World of Ice and Fire):
"For much of their recorded history, the Summer Islanders lived in isolation from the rest of the known world, and they were apparently unaware that other lands and peoples existed."
Your made up lore from 3:15:
"The Southern Isles are a group of islands inhabited by the two groups ethnically similar to their northern neighbors, they have a long history of trade wars between them, but the last five hundred years have been peaceful."
The Summer Isles are isolated. Period. This non-canon map contradicts the canon.
Also you should at least give credit to the person who made this map. You are just stealing somebody's hard work and it's wrong. Even if they violate the lore.
I did give credit in the description, and as for the canon contradiction I supose we’ll have to assume that their enemies to the south told them that there is nothing but Ocean ahead to keep them from establishing trade routes in their territory, they wanted to keep Sothoryos and the Lizard Isles secret.
@Admire Kashiri For a very long time people from the Summer Isles believed that there are no more lands in the world. That means that they are isolated. No Southern Isles, or at least they should be very far from the Summer Isles. Period.
@Admire Kashiri Their islands are situated thousands of miles away from other lands. That means they are isolated. For a very long time their whole known world were Summer Islands. For a very long time they were able to build only ships which let them only travel between Summer Island. After some time they learned to build better ships, which allowed them to travel thousands of miles away from their territory. That let them learn about Westeros and Essos etc
Do you understand what I'm saying?
My whole point is: put Southern Isles thousand miles away from the Summer Islands. because the map from the video suggests that people of the Summer Isles can quite easily get to Sothorys and it violates the fucking lore
So if non-canon, where did it come from
he made it the fuck up
This legitimately makes me want to run a D&D campaign in this setting.
In the opening credits, there’s a land mass on the other end of the sunset sea, parallel with both Essos and Westeros - yet no non-canonic maps show this. The only things that seem to come close is the Lands of always winter being connected between both Westeros and Essos; the Cursed Islands believed, by those of the Summerset Isles, to be home to the deep ones; Ulthos connected to Sothoryos; and the Islands in the East.
It's such a Shame that all you've made up isn't Canon, it's so cool and well thought out. I like the further you go into the unknown world the more mystical and eerie it gets :D
So, the non-canon is essentially Conan+The cthulhu mythos+The hyperborean cycle=fanfiction.
Um, yes (personally I like the idea of Conan sailing over with his Aquilonian legions and taking the iron throne)
Rip Arya went west of Westeros in the wrong direction
Very interesting, i suspect the Sunrise Sea is a nod to the Japanese
God indeed
Also it's the opposite of the Sunset Sea
Excellent job!! Looking forward to others.
I appreciate your efforts, it's a pretty well thought map. But may I suggest to tone down the magical elements?
The reason why is even in the real world, there were exaggerated stories about the eastern/western worlds before and during the age of exploration. These kind of stories may exists in planetos, which makes ordinary stuffs to be "magical" It may be possible that the winged man civilization is nothing more but a civilization that recently discovered air balloon etc anyway, that's just my thoughts and feel free to do anything with it. Nevertheless, good video!
It gets more magical as it gets further away from westeros, just like how europeans viewed the rest of the unknown world to be fantastical, in reality these civilizations are just humans painting themselves green or wearing lizard skin
@@heavysaber9431 yup I agree
Yeah if I remember correctly GRRM said that the only real magic is like blood magic and everything else is some kind of variation on this
I Putu Satyena Pande the magical elements follow the same way that GRRM has explained most of the canon world outside Westeros & some of Essos. This is all written from the POV of the Westerosi, so obviously they would know next to nothing about most of the world outside their continent and nearby lands. Maps were had just as many “magical elements” in our world during the Middle Ages.
Keep in mind that, in GRRM's words, all the stories and cultures we know from around the world, are explained to us through the perspectives and tellings of our westerosii maesters, who might have ended up distorting feasible realities into fantastic myths
"Yi Ti needs freedom" said America.
Great video, much better than s8 lol. Could you do Tolkien's fictional world next?
Would be 3 videos or 3 subparts
Tolkiens world heavily changes though the ages. Complete continents appear and disappear
Nais
@@therac197 true
Yes! Omg omg
Thank you. Very insightful.
Sothoryos is supposed to be way larger than Essos, but I'd assume Ulthos is probably also another massive continent and there's supposed to be an undiscovered continent west of Westoros and it isn't the edge of Essos or Ulthos.
Now I know that it wasn't the Indians or the Portuguese who arrived first in Brazil... It was the fish...😂
I did not know that the world of ice and fire was so large. I am really damn curious now. I wonder how a westerossi would react seeing a winged or a lizard man. And I thought that ashai was strange and mysterious...
Most of the things named in the video is fanfiction though and never mentioned or confirmed by grr martin. It's just people inventing extra stuff for fun. Ulthos and Sothoryos for example are mentioned but it's unknown how the continents look like and how big they are (map in video is fanmade)
The Canon-Non canon line: "Am I a joke to you?"
Bulgarian empire mapping hate to be a killjoy but most probably all of those legends about giant animals, winged men etc are not true at all. If the story is told from the perspective of a Westeros person then obviously the further away from Westeros, the legends are gonna get more and more mysterious. Kind of how Europeans imagined the Far East or the new world to be
Well you are not actually a killjoy. " Winged men " "Lizard men" those are too fairy tale like for my taste.
Actually, lizard men are apparently canons, as well as demons and wyverns
That map looks brilliant.
Could someone who knows how to mod make this map in one or more Paradox games(Imperator Rome, Crusader Kong’s, Europa Universalis, Victoria and Hearts of Iron). Each continent is somewhat represented here. The furthest left is North America. South America is three islands Westeros is Europe. Continent below it is Africa. Continent to the right is Asia and large continent to the southeast corner is Australia.
Ofcourse the continent with maneating superbirds is australia. Even worh magic in the world, 'strayans cant escape the Emus
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Wow dude nice video
You should made each frame 20 seconds so you got monetised
Im subscribing rigth now
Hey when are we going to see Yi Ti do anything in your continuation series?
Didn't GRRM say that westeros was the size of south America, and the planet about 80% earth size? It seems bigger here