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Fun fact: Coraline did call the police in the book. They wrote her off as a child with an overactive imagination, and told her to have some hot cocoa before going back to bed.
15:30 - 15:49 I'd like to point out that Coraline did call the cops in the book, but the officer simply told her to go back to bed since she mentioned the part of her parents being stuck in a mirror and the Other Mother wanted to sew buttons into her eyes. Needless to say, Jeremy has too much faith in a system that doesn't take unnoticed supernatural stuff seriously.
@@eatatjoes6751 Yeah, I read the book too back in elementary school as a reading course for English class and re-reading it when I picked it up again on Audible.
So Jeremy actually missed that there's an explanation for why the neighbor is blue, you just have to pay attention and be knowledgeable. He has a form of radiation poisoning, something real people have had happen to them, most notably the surviving crew of workers who helped stabilize Chernobyl when it melted down. They gave these workers a medal to commemorate their sacrifice and the neighbor has one of these medals on his chest at all times. So he's blue because he helped prevent a nuclear disaster at Chernobyl
Honestly as a kid I thought it was because he ate too much blue cheese kind of how like in Demon Slayer a girl ate too much Sakura mochi and her hair turned pink bobinsky ate too much blue cheese and turned blue
On the Mango Milkshake sin, it is established the Otherworld is magic, and soft magic at that, given the lack of rules. So Coraline could have a Mago Milkshake and not suffer any Allergic reaction. Granted, I am probably giving the writers credit in assuming they are aware of the allergy connection, but there you go, a way for Coraline to be okay with having a Mango Milkshake.
Also, sensitivity to the chemical in poison oak and mangoes varies from person to person and there are plenty of people who have a reaction to poison oak but can eat mangoes with little to no reaction.
@@thecollector5204 I mean, that is the gist of my argument. She is in a magical world, so she has the opportunity to try stuff she usually could not. (Add the Beldum trying to trick Caroline like a stranger offering a toddler cand,y and it makes more sense.)
It could also just be mango "flavour" not actual mango Though it is curious that she would ask for such a thing, then again the fact she asks for it could simply be taken as proof she isn't that sensitive to it in the first place
As someone who also struggles with enunciating my words resulting in them sounding like pure gibberish.. Hearing you jab at Jeremy for doing the same will always be nothing short of hilarious.
Not necessarily. It depends on the ripeness of the fruit, and how sensitive the person is to the allergen. Had friends of mine from Florida tell me about the connection between the two, and they said you could always tell if someone ate too many mangoes by the ring of red bumps around their mouths.
Jeremy forgets what PG used to mean. Beetlejuice, Empire Strikes Back, The Witches(1990 version), etc. Those were PG and weren't exactly completely kid friendly
The fact Jeremy complained about the _animal_ not having an anus is so alarming to me. He claims everything else was animated realistically, but no The shape of the cat's head to neck to shoulders implies an anchored collarbone, and almost makes it look like an anthro cat (like Tom) walking on all fours instead, which is what I _thought_ Jeremy would've sinned when he started off. Not saying that's a better sin or a worthy sin either, but I certainly wasn't expecting Jeremy to complain about the butt.
Besides that animation is a medium not a genre for a certain age- children do appreciate horror and horror can be beneficial for them to process fears. There used to be more children’s horror media or horror elements- Courage, Goosebumps, Billy and Mandy. Though Coraline managed to be a children’s book bc the agent’s daughter lied, I loved this movie as a kid
15:40 also I heard that in the book/novel version of Coraline she actually did call the police, but they weren’t helpful at all and literally just told her to have some hot chocolate to feel better or something
Even if this movie was made for kids, what’s the matter with that ? Is a good introduction of horror for many kids like how it was for me, do you expect that kids go from Halloween specials to midsommar without a middle ground ?
"Besides, nobody is as thick as Elastigirl." Birdgeta: "HA! You got that right!" I *totally* agree, Elastigirl is the definition of _THICC_ and we love her 😊
15:47 arguable. Sometimes they harass ppl w not nice cars too. No real significance but my brother gets pulled over all the time in his car which is tore up from several accidents. When he drives mine he rarely does. Altho has one time cause he was speeding
I was a child myself when it came out But if I remember correctly the movie marketed itself as for children (Not saying it's _for_ kids considering I still love this movie, but still)
Its funny how often Jeremy shows hes clearly not paying as much attention as he should if hes genuinely criticising a movie. I know it's a small nitpick, but he calls the "totes adorbs" flowers tulips. I've seen coraline enough to memorize every scene, so I know, immediately after Coraline laughs, Other Father pops up and says "Tickle no more, you dragon snappers." the flowers are snapdragons, not tulips. Also, another reason why everything falls apart in the Other World near the end: The Beldam is getting weaker, and she's clearly losing her grip, so she doesn't have as much power as before. Everything in the other world is basically The Beldam, so if she degrades, so do they.
Jeremy casually says "don't listen to kids, they say the darnedest things!" Even though this has long been used to silence children who are victims of abuse cliche!
I *love* this movie. Granted, I didn't see it when it first came out (I was too scared) but I caught it on ABC Family and recorded it - immediately fell in love with the stop motion and everything about it. Also, hold it, the reason why Mr. Bobinsky is blue is because he's Russian and there's a little badge on him - somethin' something radiation...so Jeremy just insulted a guy who got poisoned.
Honestly the real sin is that Coraline's school has boring uniform but allows her to have blue hair as someone who went to a school with a pretty strick uniform policy they didn't allow any coloured hair
it's funny because, well, I have a high sensitivity to poison ivy (high sensitivity to most things), not so much it'll kill me but it spreads like hell FAST and I get it super easy and doesn't go away for a bit. BUT I absolutely love mangos. Mangos are my favorite fruit, I love anything that has mangos in it. I can consume them no problemo. Just thought that was a funny thing to share lol
10:18 Also, there is the possibility that Mr. B has a condition called Methemoglobinemia. I won't go into the full details as to what it is, but one of the symptoms is the person having a bluish hue to their skin. Either that, or it's possible that Mr. B has radiation poisoning.
I literally screamed when he said that "this motherfucker is blue, he looks like he's been dipped in a bad batch of easter egg dye." it sounds so bad when you know why he is blue.
Sometimes, you wonder "do they even like movies?" Well probably, but it's hard to tell when each video contains a majority of bad jokes and nit-picks rather than valid criticism
You know, for some time I watched the other country's version of this cinema-sins format. And there was nothing like "every other one is not a sin but rather just a joke". And it's so surreal and annoying to me to see how the original Cinema Sins turn out to count their sins.
lol my school's uniforms were white, black, and navy blue. they are deliberately designed to be as conventional and austere as possible. gray makes perfect sense.
"Are kids even worth listening to?" Yes?? Part of the responsibility of being a parent is to engage in your children and their way of viewing the world even if it's exaggerated or "not worth listening to" Particularly in this case where it's noted that the reason Caroline's parents don't respond to her properly isn't because what she's saying isn't worth listening to but because _she's_ not worth listening to. Being emotionally detached does awful things to a child, such as lowering a child's self esteem, resentment and making them seek attention elsewhere, something Coraline shows
EXACTLY. Children are still human beings. Do they seriously think that talking about a child voicing her concerns for her safety/life with the same disdain one would use for a whining dog is okay??? Even if something happened to a kid that WAS over-exaggerated and/or not actually dangerous, _the FEAR is still just as real, and will still affect the child AND their mind/body just as much as it would an adult who actually DID have their life threatened._ *_Threats to your life, be they real or perceived, WILL affect your mind and harm your body if it is repeated and never addressed. THIS DOES NOT SUDDENLY CHANGE IF THE PERSON IS A CHILD._* Ugh.
Apparently, Neil Gaiman had difficulty getting the original novel published, since many publishers thought that it was too scary for young children. So, he had his coworker's young daughter read the novel. She approved it, and it was published, yet years later, confessed to Gaiman that she was terrified, but wanted to find out what happened next.
@@specturv9836based daughter. If she expressed discomfort to her dad I'm sure they not only woulda pulled the book but also console her and apologize, but she was a pimp. So we got the movie yrs later. Every horror fan starts out petrified, but gripped to the screen/book.
When I was 12, my English teacher approached me privately before class started and handed me the book from her shelf. She was an older, grandmother looking sort, and she said that she thought I would really enjoy it. So I read it. I was fucking terrified, but absolutely fascinated by it. It was the first piece of horror media that I actually enjoyed despite being scared. Of course I had nightmares, was always prone to night terrors as a kid, but I never regretted reading it. It really helped me open up to other horror media.
7:09 as a kid I definitely would of tried to catch that mouse also loved playing with bugs, snakes and rats And Caroline is shown to like socalled "creepy" critters throughout the film and I knew many kids like her and me It's really pathetic how Jeremy thinks everyone has to view things exactly like him
Every discussion of this movie I learn something new, like how the mango milkshake. Coraline is a pretty rebellious kid and if American public school has taught me anything- kids with allergies will risk anaphylactic shock at least once. So yeah, risking the milkshake in a world where every is magic and she can have whatever she wants, accurate gullible kid behavior.
@@MariktheGunslingerI mean it’s not normal mango milkshake. It’s “other world mango milkshake”. Who knows, maybe other mother made it not have the thing that causes allergic reactions.
Fun Fact: Mr. Bobinskie (The Russian man) is shown wearing a medal. That medal is real, or well based on a real medal given to those who participated in the Chernobyl clean up. There for we can assume there was an incedent during the cleaning, leading him to develop blue skin
10:19 There’s actually a legitimate reason for why Bobinsky is blue. He wears a Russian hero medal that was given out for those who helped in the Chernobyl Nuclear Disaster, meaning he was one of those heroes and his blue skin was actually from it.
I always assumed the mango milkshake thing was Coraline just saying shit. She's being exposed to all this amazing food and magic, it feels in her character to just name something fun sounding.
Yeah, too bad most adult animation is awful. They think a cartoon character swearing and making sex jokes is enough to call it adult, like in sausage party or in Velma. It’s the equivalent of a film talking down to a child but instead it’s to adults.
I feel like the mango milkshake could be a subtle hint put there but the movie makers. That they’re giving her something sweet that she thinks she wants but is actually harmful to her
Had an ex that was crazy about this movie and introduced me to it. Whole family was a fan of all types of horror flicks and such. The movie is definitely unique and definitely gave me more appreciation for varieties of horror-esc films
The footage of the news lady at six and a half minutes was very unsettling. I think that was more than just a flub. I hope she saw a doctor and got that taken care of. :(
Something called "migraine aura" which can present stroke-like symptoms (I feel like doctors need to come up with a new name...) I just read a CBS News article about it because I thought she'd had a stroke too
Seriously the whole "animation is just for kids" is so overdone and just wrong. Besides the many adult animated shows and movies i can point out, you just have to go back to the 70s and Ralph Bakshi
I remember watching Coraline back in middle school on our homeroom classes throughout a week! We were like 8-9 and I remember everybody loving it, particularly due to the particularly positively assimilated night terrors! And conversations about how fucking creepy button-eye dolls are for like two weeks
The thing too is what's wrong with dark animated family films? Granted some kids would be too scared by some things but other kids like scary stuff. Kids are going to learn eventually that a lot of scary things are going to happen in the world or learn about death and what better, safer way to reach them than through the medium of film or the written word?
That's what I'm saying. Further more what's wrong with HORROR movies for kids? Horror movies are better off separated from non horror, but anyone who thinks that means you can't make a kids horror movie isn't paying attention, and that thinking is what brought us to Bloomfield movies that feel like r rated Disney Channel original Halloween special movies. Making the childhood horror movies actually for kids let's us have great content for kids and then have an autistic kid get beheaded for a god to rise in adult movies.
I feel like Coraline was a gateway film to horror for many Zoomers and younger Millennials. Lure kids in with a PG animated film starring a brightly-colored protagonist by the guy who made Nightmare Before Christmas, get them hooked on body horror and gothic fantasy.
10:18, Something I wanted to point out which is an extremely cool detail of the movie is that it's implied that his skin is blue due to radiation poisoning, given that he is wearing a liquidator medal. Which, for those who are unaware, was awarded to those who helped during the aftermath of the Chernobyl disaster and were exposed to Alpha, Beta & Gamma strains of Radiation as a result.
I personally think that theory makes a lot of sense. Apparently the "official" reason for Mr. Bobinski's discolored skin is due to heavy consumption of beets. While this does make some sense as severe nitrate poisoning can dye your skin it also comes with other more debilitating side effects such as chronic seizures and vomiting.
Note: Cinemasins has confirmed he has writers, meaning he likely never actually watches some of the movies he sins and is just shitting on things just for the sake of it.
10:20 There also is an actual explanation for why he’s blue, granted it’s just a visual one. Bobinski has a medal pinned to his shirt that shows he helped deal with Chernobyl
Jeremy points at Coraline and complains about how she's obnoxious when that's sort of the whole point. Most parents who watched this films would probably relate heavily to their kids pestering them during a super stressful period while they're just trying to make ends meet. When her parents have finished the catalogue and can finally give Coraline more attention, the days finally go from cloudy/rainy to sunny. The entire point is that the Beldam is taking advantage of families at their most vulnerable. Coraline feels isolated and alone, pushes away people trying to get to know her. Hey, the Beldam sounds like it could be an allegory for something! The movie is a cautionary tale for both parents *and* children.
Weighing in on the mango discussion, I'm allergic to mangos but I still eat them whenever possible and I haven't died yet! I just get a poison-oak like rash around the outside of my mouth. Mangos are soooo tasty though it's worth it
@@Th3Birdman Haha, thanks for the concern! Genuinely though, I mostly go for dried mangos now so the juice doesn't touch my skin. I don't think I'd drink a mango milkshake without a straw 🤣
As someone also allergic to mango I'm pretty sure the type of allergic reaction is different from anaphylaxis somehow. My mouth just gets itchy from eating mango. Probably still not great for me though
loved this film as a kid, will never forget watching it in the cinema when I was 11. so many kids and their parents walked out when the more scary elements really kicked in, was my first cinema horror experience that really freaked me out and solidified my love for the genre
I love your videos, because they teach me things I otherwise would have probably never heard of like the term "Hunt-n-pecker", because thats exactly how I type
The russian guy has a medal of honor given to citizens who volunteered to help clean up the qaste in and around chernobyl. He is likely blue because of radiation poisoning
2:04 So, Jeremy complains that animated animals have buttholes in "Secret Life of Pets" and "Cats", but if they DON'T have buttholes like in "Zootopia" or "Coraline" it's also a sin?? Make up your mind, Jeremy!
8:13 this is just a theory, but the mango milkshake probably isn't even real as the Beldam made everything up with magic... or something like that. Maybe Coraline likes the taste of mango but can't eat it, so a mango shake that doesn't trigger her allergies would make the world seem more like a dream come true. Beldam can cure a rash so it isn't impossible Though the fact Coraline is casually gulping it down like it's a delicacy is still a little odd. Perhaps she thinks she'll be fine assuming this is a dream. Probably why she asked for it in the first place. Either way clever setup for that sin earlier in the video lmao have a good one
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Just out of curiosity have you ever wat he Pitch meeting? If so what do you think?
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Fun fact: Coraline did call the police in the book. They wrote her off as a child with an overactive imagination, and told her to have some hot cocoa before going back to bed.
The cat-butthole complaint was the most Jeremy self-reporting ever.
ngl now I'm thinking about why they didn't make the cat a butthole when they even show some tig ol bitties in the film.
Omg I was coming to say the same thing the self-report is HUGE
15:30 - 15:49 I'd like to point out that Coraline did call the cops in the book, but the officer simply told her to go back to bed since she mentioned the part of her parents being stuck in a mirror and the Other Mother wanted to sew buttons into her eyes. Needless to say, Jeremy has too much faith in a system that doesn't take unnoticed supernatural stuff seriously.
Yeah. I remember reading the book and specfically remembering how the cops wouldn't believe her once she went into specific supernatural stuff.
And that scene is super chilling too. "Go tell your mom that's what the nice policeman said." "When I see her, I will."
@@eatatjoes6751 Yeah, I read the book too back in elementary school as a reading course for English class and re-reading it when I picked it up again on Audible.
Didn’t they also tell her to just go drink hot cocoa?
@@itshamstertime2709 Yeah they did, I read the book and got so mad about that part.
I love how Jeremy called the tickling flowers “tulips” when they were clearly mentioned as snapdragons not too shortly afterwards...
don't you know? he's ignorant to everything until it gives him a reason to sin
In his defense that would require him to watch the film
So Jeremy actually missed that there's an explanation for why the neighbor is blue, you just have to pay attention and be knowledgeable. He has a form of radiation poisoning, something real people have had happen to them, most notably the surviving crew of workers who helped stabilize Chernobyl when it melted down. They gave these workers a medal to commemorate their sacrifice and the neighbor has one of these medals on his chest at all times. So he's blue because he helped prevent a nuclear disaster at Chernobyl
AND survived.
Henry Selick claims it’s because he eats a lot of beets
That’s unlikely to turn you blue
Medically it’s far more likely to be due to an excess of silver in his diet
Where was the explaination? I’m super curious, because I must have missed it.
Honestly as a kid I thought it was because he ate too much blue cheese kind of how like in Demon Slayer a girl ate too much Sakura mochi and her hair turned pink bobinsky ate too much blue cheese and turned blue
On the Mango Milkshake sin, it is established the Otherworld is magic, and soft magic at that, given the lack of rules. So Coraline could have a Mago Milkshake and not suffer any Allergic reaction. Granted, I am probably giving the writers credit in assuming they are aware of the allergy connection, but there you go, a way for Coraline to be okay with having a Mango Milkshake.
And it could tie into the fact that she wants one specifically because she’s not allowed it in the real world because of her allergies.
Also, sensitivity to the chemical in poison oak and mangoes varies from person to person and there are plenty of people who have a reaction to poison oak but can eat mangoes with little to no reaction.
She also could've explicitly asked for a mango milkshake because she always wanted to try one, but couldn't.
@@thecollector5204 I mean, that is the gist of my argument. She is in a magical world, so she has the opportunity to try stuff she usually could not. (Add the Beldum trying to trick Caroline like a stranger offering a toddler cand,y and it makes more sense.)
It could also just be mango "flavour" not actual mango
Though it is curious that she would ask for such a thing, then again the fact she asks for it could simply be taken as proof she isn't that sensitive to it in the first place
As someone who also struggles with enunciating my words resulting in them sounding like pure gibberish.. Hearing you jab at Jeremy for doing the same will always be nothing short of hilarious.
Honestly though 😭 sometimes I speak and out of nowhere it sounds like I’ve vomited the words into a blender 😂
On the topic of mangos. The part that causes the allergy is the skin, not the flesh.
Not necessarily. It depends on the ripeness of the fruit, and how sensitive the person is to the allergen. Had friends of mine from Florida tell me about the connection between the two, and they said you could always tell if someone ate too many mangoes by the ring of red bumps around their mouths.
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Jeremy forgets what PG used to mean. Beetlejuice, Empire Strikes Back, The Witches(1990 version), etc. Those were PG and weren't exactly completely kid friendly
The fact Jeremy complained about the _animal_ not having an anus is so alarming to me. He claims everything else was animated realistically, but no The shape of the cat's head to neck to shoulders implies an anchored collarbone, and almost makes it look like an anthro cat (like Tom) walking on all fours instead, which is what I _thought_ Jeremy would've sinned when he started off. Not saying that's a better sin or a worthy sin either, but I certainly wasn't expecting Jeremy to complain about the butt.
Besides that animation is a medium not a genre for a certain age- children do appreciate horror and horror can be beneficial for them to process fears. There used to be more children’s horror media or horror elements- Courage, Goosebumps, Billy and Mandy. Though Coraline managed to be a children’s book bc the agent’s daughter lied, I loved this movie as a kid
Jeremy's got some nerve to sin my childhood horror movie
Great video by the way
He sinned Iron Giant, so not surprised other masterpieces are possible
If Jeremy is willing to sin WALL.E, then I'm not surprised with Coraline
@@michaelbk0076it’s not that it’s wrong to sin a masterpiece, no piece of art is perfect or without flaws, it’s just that Jeremy is a moron.
While I agree Jeremy was wrong about some of the sins had addressed, Jeremy does not have some nerve. "No movie is without sin"
You missed a sin. Jeremy called snapdragons tulips.
Jeremy thinks animation is for kids... in other words, Jeremy works for TH-cam.
IKR?!
15:40 also I heard that in the book/novel version of Coraline she actually did call the police, but they weren’t helpful at all and literally just told her to have some hot chocolate to feel better or something
Even if this movie was made for kids, what’s the matter with that ? Is a good introduction of horror for many kids like how it was for me, do you expect that kids go from Halloween specials to midsommar without a middle ground ?
"Besides, nobody is as thick as Elastigirl."
Birdgeta: "HA! You got that right!"
I *totally* agree, Elastigirl is the definition of _THICC_ and we love her 😊
Sometimes im in awe at all the pop culture references there are AND that you recognize them.
15:47 arguable. Sometimes they harass ppl w not nice cars too.
No real significance but my brother gets pulled over all the time in his car which is tore up from several accidents. When he drives mine he rarely does. Altho has one time cause he was speeding
8:20 I like how you found a sin that wasnt the original sin but could be sinned if they noticed the fact you mention here.
Neil actually wrote series about a boy wizard with a owl companion a couple years before jo wrote Harry Potter so he actually beat her to the punch
As a girl who was once Coralines age, I can confirm not all of us would scream if we saw a mouse in our room.
Mice are just little guys.
I grew up with a snake and fed it baby mice with my mother- i'd just find it cute and free it-
They are just little guys
Funfact ms spynx and ms forcible are canonically a lesbian couple also Coraline is such a amazing movie with so many amazing easter eggs
Easter eggs to nightmare before Christmas?
We got Timberlake three sins in. Is that a new record?
13:09
When you're a Cat but deep down, still a philosopher.
*#lolz*
"Texas _is_ dried out, and the wombs of the Mormons in Utah are ba--"
HOLY GOLDEN BOOK!! That was so mean, Birdman... I love it!! 😂😂😂😂😂
2:17 Surprisingly this is incorrect. Tim Burton had no involvement in Coraline whatsoever. It was likely that his work inspired the film, though.
Henry Selick directed both this movie and The Nightmare Before Christmas.
@@InfiniteFury2K Oooooh alright I just assumed that it was a reference to Tim Burton. My mistake.
What a great movie don’t get how anyone can sin this repsect to anyone who does stop motion
I can't believe I never got a notification for this video! Coraline was the shit when I was a kid!
5:46 I’m a lefty. What the fuck is wrong with this Jeremy? What did we do?
Thanks for including Long Johnson
This video is an awesome birthday gift
I was a child myself when it came out
But if I remember correctly the movie marketed itself as for children
(Not saying it's _for_ kids considering I still love this movie, but still)
Sin 46 cracked me up this I why you read the subs
coraline has quite literally the most attention to detail of any movie ive ever seen
Its funny how often Jeremy shows hes clearly not paying as much attention as he should if hes genuinely criticising a movie. I know it's a small nitpick, but he calls the "totes adorbs" flowers tulips. I've seen coraline enough to memorize every scene, so I know, immediately after Coraline laughs, Other Father pops up and says "Tickle no more, you dragon snappers." the flowers are snapdragons, not tulips. Also, another reason why everything falls apart in the Other World near the end: The Beldam is getting weaker, and she's clearly losing her grip, so she doesn't have as much power as before. Everything in the other world is basically The Beldam, so if she degrades, so do they.
Also im givin 1000 sins just for him criticising Coraline.
Sinning this movie! How dare he!
I'm no expert, but it seemed like that news anchor was having a stroke....
Insult to news anchors. He's a man grasping at straws in shitty movie analyses who occasionally makes pedophilic statements about child characters.
I have dreamed of making a channel like this. Thank you for saving me the trouble
Couldnt think of a better subtitle than EWW for cinema sins
Jeremy casually says "don't listen to kids, they say the darnedest things!" Even though this has long been used to silence children who are victims of abuse cliche!
I was a kid that saw this in the theater and loved tf out this film
How dare he? How actually dare he?
I *love* this movie.
Granted, I didn't see it when it first came out (I was too scared) but I caught it on ABC Family and recorded it - immediately fell in love with the stop motion and everything about it.
Also, hold it, the reason why Mr. Bobinsky is blue is because he's Russian and there's a little badge on him - somethin' something radiation...so Jeremy just insulted a guy who got poisoned.
Honestly the real sin is that Coraline's school has boring uniform but allows her to have blue hair as someone who went to a school with a pretty strick uniform policy they didn't allow any coloured hair
10:20
Do the Russians Love Salvia or something? 😂
"Hi, I'm your mom"
"My... Mom?"
"Yes, and if you want me to *stay* your mom, you'll learn about eyeballs."
- the other mother, probably
It’s a bit much shade on the southwest, we get massive monsoons(I live in Arizona, our desert includes that of Utah)
13:12 This cat has better enunciation than Jeremy 🤣
it's funny because, well, I have a high sensitivity to poison ivy (high sensitivity to most things), not so much it'll kill me but it spreads like hell FAST and I get it super easy and doesn't go away for a bit. BUT I absolutely love mangos. Mangos are my favorite fruit, I love anything that has mangos in it. I can consume them no problemo. Just thought that was a funny thing to share lol
10:18 Also, there is the possibility that Mr. B has a condition called Methemoglobinemia. I won't go into the full details as to what it is, but one of the symptoms is the person having a bluish hue to their skin.
Either that, or it's possible that Mr. B has radiation poisoning.
She does show him her hand to show where she lives in Michigan I thought?? that's where I learned about it
I really like this movie Cinemasins dissing it nonchalantly hurts
This was an amazing upload, Birdman.
I literally screamed when he said that "this motherfucker is blue, he looks like he's been dipped in a bad batch of easter egg dye." it sounds so bad when you know why he is blue.
Sometimes, you wonder "do they even like movies?"
Well probably, but it's hard to tell when each video contains a majority of bad jokes and nit-picks rather than valid criticism
That comment about not listening to kids...bro who hurt him?
You know, for some time I watched the other country's version of this cinema-sins format. And there was nothing like "every other one is not a sin but rather just a joke". And it's so surreal and annoying to me to see how the original Cinema Sins turn out to count their sins.
lol my school's uniforms were white, black, and navy blue. they are deliberately designed to be as conventional and austere as possible. gray makes perfect sense.
10:43 It’s a staccato triad, not a quarter, quarter rest, quarter, quarter. And the last ones a little high.
Ain’t no way he tried coralline
bro slips up on one word better hope bird man aint near lmao
"Are kids even worth listening to?"
Yes?? Part of the responsibility of being a parent is to engage in your children and their way of viewing the world even if it's exaggerated or "not worth listening to"
Particularly in this case where it's noted that the reason Caroline's parents don't respond to her properly isn't because what she's saying isn't worth listening to but because _she's_ not worth listening to.
Being emotionally detached does awful things to a child, such as lowering a child's self esteem, resentment and making them seek attention elsewhere, something Coraline shows
Yes
i havent watched the video yet, but i fucking hate when people dehumanize children. they are people too with thoughts and feelings.
EXACTLY. Children are still human beings. Do they seriously think that talking about a child voicing her concerns for her safety/life with the same disdain one would use for a whining dog is okay??? Even if something happened to a kid that WAS over-exaggerated and/or not actually dangerous, _the FEAR is still just as real, and will still affect the child AND their mind/body just as much as it would an adult who actually DID have their life threatened._
*_Threats to your life, be they real or perceived, WILL affect your mind and harm your body if it is repeated and never addressed. THIS DOES NOT SUDDENLY CHANGE IF THE PERSON IS A CHILD._* Ugh.
EXACTLY! Coraline literally sought out attention in an unsafe space, and nearly fucking died because of it! How is this so hard to see??
Caroline? 😭
Animation is not just for kids, I'd hope that a channel called CINEMA sins would get that.
Yeah, that shit can automatically be debunked by multiple adult animated shows and movies made in America.
The only thing they get, is things wrong.
Jeremy's obviously never watched Japanese Anime!
Trix are for kids.
@@johnburn8031 I was originally gonna put that too, but didn't. 😔
Apparently, Neil Gaiman had difficulty getting the original novel published, since many publishers thought that it was too scary for young children. So, he had his coworker's young daughter read the novel. She approved it, and it was published, yet years later, confessed to Gaiman that she was terrified, but wanted to find out what happened next.
TRINA Q I KEEP RUNNING INTO YOU! YOU'RE EXACTLY LIKE JUSTIN Y.
Idk if that’s a based daughter moment or poor father moment
As a kid who has to read this in I think 6th grade, it was indeed scary
@@specturv9836based daughter. If she expressed discomfort to her dad I'm sure they not only woulda pulled the book but also console her and apologize, but she was a pimp. So we got the movie yrs later. Every horror fan starts out petrified, but gripped to the screen/book.
When I was 12, my English teacher approached me privately before class started and handed me the book from her shelf. She was an older, grandmother looking sort, and she said that she thought I would really enjoy it. So I read it.
I was fucking terrified, but absolutely fascinated by it. It was the first piece of horror media that I actually enjoyed despite being scared. Of course I had nightmares, was always prone to night terrors as a kid, but I never regretted reading it. It really helped me open up to other horror media.
Calling this movie “for kids” is akin to calling Rango, another PG-rated surreal animated movie, “for kids”. A profound mistake, in other words.
Rango was one of my favorite movies as a kid but then again so was Pulp Fiction.
Honestly, If Cinemasins sinnes Rango, he'd propably call it a kids movie anyway 🙄
I think he did do a video on it.@@quicksilveryt4000
7:09 as a kid I definitely would of tried to catch that mouse also loved playing with bugs, snakes and rats
And Caroline is shown to like socalled "creepy" critters throughout the film and I knew many kids like her and me
It's really pathetic how Jeremy thinks everyone has to view things exactly like him
It's amazing that Rango still holds up after all this time.
Every discussion of this movie I learn something new, like how the mango milkshake.
Coraline is a pretty rebellious kid and if American public school has taught me anything- kids with allergies will risk anaphylactic shock at least once. So yeah, risking the milkshake in a world where every is magic and she can have whatever she wants, accurate gullible kid behavior.
For all we know the Other World is the only place where a mango milkshake won't cause a reaction.
@@MariktheGunslingerI mean it’s not normal mango milkshake. It’s “other world mango milkshake”. Who knows, maybe other mother made it not have the thing that causes allergic reactions.
Fun Fact: Mr. Bobinskie (The Russian man) is shown wearing a medal. That medal is real, or well based on a real medal given to those who participated in the Chernobyl clean up. There for we can assume there was an incedent during the cleaning, leading him to develop blue skin
I was just about to comment about that.
Huh didn’t know that
I just commented that, and then scrolled to find this. I was gonna be smart😭. Jessie V watcher maybe?
Or he consumes colloidal silver…
@@strisselstudios3932I can't find this anywhere, where'd you hear this?
Yo, Coraline is one of my childhood movies, thanks Birdman for protecting a masterpiece against unworthy criticism.
10:19 There’s actually a legitimate reason for why Bobinsky is blue. He wears a Russian hero medal that was given out for those who helped in the Chernobyl Nuclear Disaster, meaning he was one of those heroes and his blue skin was actually from it.
I actually hate that he sinned her for being left-handed. I’m genuinely angry by that. That is the most unsinnable part of the movie!
I always assumed the mango milkshake thing was Coraline just saying shit. She's being exposed to all this amazing food and magic, it feels in her character to just name something fun sounding.
If Jeremy wants proof that animation is not just for kids, there are many adult animated movies out there.
He'd have a heart attack if he saw Fritz the Cat
Like _Fritz the Cat._
Although, the themes and subtext of that movie would fly over Jeremy’s head.
Yeah, too bad most adult animation is awful. They think a cartoon character swearing and making sex jokes is enough to call it adult, like in sausage party or in Velma. It’s the equivalent of a film talking down to a child but instead it’s to adults.
let me recommend Arcane, Cyberpunk Edgerunners, A Silent Voice, Ghost in the Shell, Akira, Invincible, Entergalactic, 9, @@TheToxicTig3r
Heavy Metal anyone?
I feel like the mango milkshake could be a subtle hint put there but the movie makers. That they’re giving her something sweet that she thinks she wants but is actually harmful to her
cinemasins likes to judge fantasy kid films with high standards but once it comes to a movie for teens / older kids it's all "think of the children!!"
Had an ex that was crazy about this movie and introduced me to it. Whole family was a fan of all types of horror flicks and such. The movie is definitely unique and definitely gave me more appreciation for varieties of horror-esc films
The footage of the news lady at six and a half minutes was very unsettling. I think that was more than just a flub. I hope she saw a doctor and got that taken care of. :(
The lady did an interview about it and said it was mostly nerves and her trying to say the whole sentence at once
Apparently she just had a bad migraine
Something called "migraine aura" which can present stroke-like symptoms (I feel like doctors need to come up with a new name...)
I just read a CBS News article about it because I thought she'd had a stroke too
Jeremy immediately lost me when he said that Coraline is only for kids... Like dawg. Are you serious?
Seriously the whole "animation is just for kids" is so overdone and just wrong. Besides the many adult animated shows and movies i can point out, you just have to go back to the 70s and Ralph Bakshi
I remember watching Coraline back in middle school on our homeroom classes throughout a week!
We were like 8-9 and I remember everybody loving it, particularly due to the particularly positively assimilated night terrors! And conversations about how fucking creepy button-eye dolls are for like two weeks
This movie came out when I was in 4th grade. And I remember the week after it came out, everyone was going crazy at the amount of boobage we saw 😂
The thing too is what's wrong with dark animated family films? Granted some kids would be too scared by some things but other kids like scary stuff. Kids are going to learn eventually that a lot of scary things are going to happen in the world or learn about death and what better, safer way to reach them than through the medium of film or the written word?
That's what I'm saying. Further more what's wrong with HORROR movies for kids? Horror movies are better off separated from non horror, but anyone who thinks that means you can't make a kids horror movie isn't paying attention, and that thinking is what brought us to Bloomfield movies that feel like r rated Disney Channel original Halloween special movies. Making the childhood horror movies actually for kids let's us have great content for kids and then have an autistic kid get beheaded for a god to rise in adult movies.
I feel like Coraline was a gateway film to horror for many Zoomers and younger Millennials. Lure kids in with a PG animated film starring a brightly-colored protagonist by the guy who made Nightmare Before Christmas, get them hooked on body horror and gothic fantasy.
Always nice hearing Birdman pronounce Japanese words so accurately
10:18, Something I wanted to point out which is an extremely cool detail of the movie is that it's implied that his skin is blue due to radiation poisoning, given that he is wearing a liquidator medal. Which, for those who are unaware, was awarded to those who helped during the aftermath of the Chernobyl disaster and were exposed to Alpha, Beta & Gamma strains of Radiation as a result.
I personally think that theory makes a lot of sense. Apparently the "official" reason for Mr. Bobinski's discolored skin is due to heavy consumption of beets. While this does make some sense as severe nitrate poisoning can dye your skin it also comes with other more debilitating side effects such as chronic seizures and vomiting.
No way CinemaSins had the audacity to sin one of my favorite movies. Kick his ass, Birdman!
Note: Cinemasins has confirmed he has writers, meaning he likely never actually watches some of the movies he sins and is just shitting on things just for the sake of it.
So it’s not Jeremy’s fault for the wretched opinions? He’s just like a voice actor for the writers and stuff?
10:20 There also is an actual explanation for why he’s blue, granted it’s just a visual one. Bobinski has a medal pinned to his shirt that shows he helped deal with Chernobyl
Was looking for this comment.
Also, the mom could have formed an opinion on Miss Spink and Forcible because theyre famous actors
Jeremy points at Coraline and complains about how she's obnoxious when that's sort of the whole point. Most parents who watched this films would probably relate heavily to their kids pestering them
during a super stressful period while they're just trying to make ends meet. When her parents have finished the catalogue and can finally give Coraline more attention, the days finally go from cloudy/rainy to sunny. The entire point is that the Beldam is taking advantage of families at their most vulnerable. Coraline feels isolated and alone, pushes away people trying to get to know her. Hey, the Beldam sounds like it could be an allegory for something!
The movie is a cautionary tale for both parents *and* children.
Keith David makes any movie he's in 200% better.
Weighing in on the mango discussion, I'm allergic to mangos but I still eat them whenever possible and I haven't died yet! I just get a poison-oak like rash around the outside of my mouth. Mangos are soooo tasty though it's worth it
Dude be careful 🤣🤣🤣
I'm allergic to a lot of different things. I avoid them like the plague 😂
@@Th3Birdman Haha, thanks for the concern! Genuinely though, I mostly go for dried mangos now so the juice doesn't touch my skin. I don't think I'd drink a mango milkshake without a straw 🤣
As someone also allergic to mango I'm pretty sure the type of allergic reaction is different from anaphylaxis somehow. My mouth just gets itchy from eating mango. Probably still not great for me though
loved this film as a kid, will never forget watching it in the cinema when I was 11. so many kids and their parents walked out when the more scary elements really kicked in, was my first cinema horror experience that really freaked me out and solidified my love for the genre
Why yes, a cinema sin of the movie "no cat ass".
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with Coraline🤬 I guess I’m a “psychopath”, because it’s my comfort movie. Thanks, mom!! 🥰
Yeah that just puts Jermie as a normie with no taste
I love your videos, because they teach me things I otherwise would have probably never heard of like the term "Hunt-n-pecker", because thats exactly how I type
The russian guy has a medal of honor given to citizens who volunteered to help clean up the qaste in and around chernobyl. He is likely blue because of radiation poisoning
2:04 So, Jeremy complains that animated animals have buttholes in "Secret Life of Pets" and "Cats", but if they DON'T have buttholes like in "Zootopia" or "Coraline" it's also a sin?? Make up your mind, Jeremy!
He must have a butthole fetish
8:13 this is just a theory, but the mango milkshake probably isn't even real as the Beldam made everything up with magic... or something like that. Maybe Coraline likes the taste of mango but can't eat it, so a mango shake that doesn't trigger her allergies would make the world seem more like a dream come true.
Beldam can cure a rash so it isn't impossible
Though the fact Coraline is casually gulping it down like it's a delicacy is still a little odd. Perhaps she thinks she'll be fine assuming this is a dream. Probably why she asked for it in the first place.
Either way clever setup for that sin earlier in the video lmao have a good one
jeremy needs to learn that not every pg and g movies aren't for kids, they can be for teens and adults as well.
since parents and guardians can see movies with their kids and nieces and nephews.
11:40 "man eating tulips" sir those are snapdragons, and actually a really neat fantasy design for them too that i really enjoy.