The new support is cool but I am kinda bummed that their play style isn’t changing up from just gateway turbo. It really does just make for turns that are way too long
@@dylanwastaken5766 Yeah... Despite being an X-Saber fan I really would rather them not get support at all til they figure out how they're going to balance it. Easy option would be to ban gottems and then just go all out on the support but I feel like Konami WANTS gottems to be a part of the deck which is the problem
@@BlackBeartic229 maybe a generaider route and let the opponent draw cards lol, or they can add a restriction to a main support card where u can only activate gottem once
@@dylanwastaken5766 Honestly? The former idea makes sense. I never understood why handlooping just perma rips like that. Most other card games have measures that don't make it as degenerate. So yeah i like the idea. But i'd say maybe make the draws at end phase because people will definitely figure out how to deck out your opponent otherwise.
This new Shi En is what Chixiao dreams to be. Answer to Nib and handtraps in general, search + negate on the same turn, once per copy for the negate and has protection for itself.
I've been playing the new support on Omega for about a week now as it updated earlier than EDO. Throughout my testing, I'm finding that the deck has a lot more success when played as more of a mid-range combo deck. Similar to sword soul. What I'm finding is if I try to go toward gateway first they are typically going to negate it and stop me from getting to it and then I've used too many resources to follow up but if I just focus on putting out a few synchros and great shogun backed up with non engine handtraps im still winning most of the games i play even without gateway
I love this video because I love Six sam, and you are killing it with content.. BTW though brother red and blue is not needed anymore.. it comes down to preference of course..
@@CaliburXL99 as in standard combo, 3 kizans to alembertian, and you only need 1 red 1 blue to ftk since rest of support gives you enough counters to get there (you dont need the infinite anymore to ftk)
@@carbonjoshg4288 I mean if you’re going that route u could also sub in Legendary Secret of the Six samurai(that no 6 Sam list I’ve seen is playing for some reason). For 1 of those Kizans tho FTKing with 6 Sams sounds gimmicky imo.
His decklist runs a total of 5 non-engine (8 if you cound fenrir), and doesn't even run basic Handtraps like Ash or Imperm. Idk if the archetype itself is playable but the deck showcased in the video isn't doing anything real
There is the new Vanilla monster support with Chamberlain existing for six sam. Since it is a lv3 earth nontuner it's also access to beast with the new lv2 tuner Also no gateway is at 1 in OCG. They limited it after the master rule change which freed the extra deck zone in anticipation for people doing extra deck loops plays
The OG shi en and all of the negate monsters back in the day arent HOPT (Naturia beast/naturia barkion) (Evolzar laggia/evolzar dolkka) (Herald of perfection)
@shadowdraqon2479 and yet he almost never goes for multiple and instead goes for a redundant apo. Apo is most likely never getting more than one negate (especially on 3 mats) so a second shien is almost always better as it doesn't clog your EMZ and has protection. This deck can do literally anything in the game if it goes uninterrupted since it fosters infinite materials with Gateway yet we settle on a board that loses to a lot of board breakers every game. If anything you hold the Apo for opponent's turn to make with IP to have something worthwhile against a board breaker.
I know the video is 2 months old at this point. But do plan to revisit six samurai’s after the support comes out for the tcg? I like your deck list to see what I need to do to update my old decks
My brain was turning into a noodle from watching those combos. I love Six Sam, but sometimes I forget how mind melting their plays can be, almost as bad as Ritual Beasts.
Its pretty simple, u loop kizans into battle shogun’s arrow pointed zones to get extra counters, then make saryuja draw 4 cards then search mizuho/shinai with gateway then summon both then do infinite red/blue combo. Now u have 9 trillion bushido counters which can handloop or ftk or set up 9000 negates
So i play this deck my build is alot different. My end board usually consists of. Level 6 legendary shi en. Level 5 shi en Great shogun shi en Naturia exterio Thunder dragon colossus And saruja And usually with a crossout set
I'm excited for a more midrange less combo heavy build of this deck that also plays the other new synch and more non engine. hopefully they'll ban appo too
The other reason is he makes it possible to get 4 monsters with different names on the field to make saryuja and get the draw 4 effect, if u dont have shadow shien in your extra deck u will have battle shogun/grandmaster/multiple kizans on field and u can make saryuja by treating battle shogun as a 2 link material but u wont get the draw 4 effect
@@lucasalarcon3230if they get to gateway, they dont give a fawk about 99% of handtraps u draw. What r u going to gamma/imperm/effect veiler? Im using a continuous spell to add kizan to my hand and kizan is an inherent summon(doesn’t activate) so u cant veiler or imperm or gamma him
This deck doesnt banish so lancea does nothing, gateway doesnt target so dd crow does nothing(also they can make leviair to revive samurai u crow or they make the new enishi synchro to revive banished samurais that u dd crow’d)
One of two things will happen- the deck will see a lot of success as a mid-range Swordsoul style deck. Or it will see success as an annoying deck that wastes time in tournaments putting a bunch of counters all over the place and then just wins in time with some random synchro.
Thats y u cant listen to most people stating stuff about six samurai, they dont know. Which is fair i guess cuz this isnt a meta deck so most people wouldnt know.
Even lithium himself thinks maxx c keeps samurai in check in this video at 8:00, he doesnt know that six samurai can summon infinitely and deck out the opponent if they use maxx c. Its actually a win condition for six samurai.
8:00 six samurai can deck out the opponent if they drop maxx c even if the opp has a 9 trillion card main deck. This deck can summon infinitely. The only weakneses are going 2nd and imperm/veiler/droll/ghost ogre.
Ogre is bad vs the deck now cause klesha. Same as veiler and ash. Only card that is annoying is droll but then again, play around it by making klesha first and youre fine
1 mizuho 2 shinai into infinite counters. Make saryuja, make omega pop both with mizuho. Make cowboy. Burn 8. Make emeral, shuffle everythkng except omega back. Pop emeral. Omega eff recycle omega and emeral. Repeat
C'est bien du nouveau support pour cette archétype je l'aime bien, mais je suis toujours déçu de voir que d'autres sont délaisser comme par exemple protecteur du tombeau qui n'a jamais eu du support qui l'amène à devenir un deck viable face au méta actuel.
Yup definently not looking forward to having to play against any of this stuff in 4 months time. Would be interested to see what the deck could evolve and do without Gateway being a card but that probably also = it not being very viable.
Yeah the hand loop, red and blue stuff is cringe to me and is why the deck gets hate/ no love. I dont play modern but ill jump in to play this deck but im not doing the loop / 15 mins turns cringe.
Hmhm, thing is, if you can pull that off, you prob don’t need the 3rd because Kizans and Grandmaster do the same. More blue/red means more normal summons.
I don't know. Ogre is being played again, and the six samurai link can be negated with three handtraps at least. Droll can do a good damage to the player turn.
Wow… this is the first time where I fully with all my being disagree and loath a lithium gameplay video. Starting the video off saying the secret six samurai’s are bad is mind blowing when Kizaru is a net +3, and hatsume plays into braking your opponents board when losing the die roll. Plus your not playing legendary secret of the six samurai which is mandatory in the new build as it’s a free extention chain blocker that also turns ascetiscism on for both monk and instructor. Cunning of the six samurai is very good for ignoring the opponents Veiler, imperm HOWEVER using crossout is far superior because keeping the shogun on board always ends with a 3 material apollousa. Bro over here sleeping hard on kizaru which is nuts
Crossout forces you for handtraps. We’re in a format where decks like Yubel and Snake eyes play througj your 2-3 handtraps. Since Sams are a combo deck without solid 1 card starters, you can’t play many handtraps, so I go board breakers. I disagree also, most other sams aren’t that good and are not needed because the new ones accomplish the same.
Kizaru is terrible. He is a shet version of stratos, search for a monster that isnt an attribute u already control on the field? Plus kizaru only gets his effect off when special summoned, stratos searches for any hero doesnt matter what the attribute is and gets his when normal or special summoned, if u play kizaru, u r dum.
Its gonna be fun watching people like u at locals side in multichummy against me at locals with a grin on their face as i proceed to special summon 9999999999999999999999 times and make not only u deck out but also every single person on the planet.
@@shadowdraqon2479 Okay then explain to me how you play around non-engine drawn off of multchummy assuming that they have also sided in ghost ogre. Sure you could bring out that new monster negate, but they can just wait unti they can just chain around it.
Six Samurai - the most boring solitaire deck that exists. I hate playing against this deck because I have to sit there for 25 minutes watching someone combo...
The new support is cool but I am kinda bummed that their play style isn’t changing up from just gateway turbo. It really does just make for turns that are way too long
I fear xsaber in same boat bc u can’t give em support that’ll help swarm without getting hand loop shenanigans
@@dylanwastaken5766 Yeah...
Despite being an X-Saber fan I really would rather them not get support at all til they figure out how they're going to balance it.
Easy option would be to ban gottems and then just go all out on the support but I feel like Konami WANTS gottems to be a part of the deck which is the problem
@@BlackBeartic229 maybe a generaider route and let the opponent draw cards lol, or they can add a restriction to a main support card where u can only activate gottem once
@@dylanwastaken5766 Honestly? The former idea makes sense. I never understood why handlooping just perma rips like that. Most other card games have measures that don't make it as degenerate.
So yeah i like the idea. But i'd say maybe make the draws at end phase because people will definitely figure out how to deck out your opponent otherwise.
if we get back invoker we could make boards without gateway
This new Shi En is what Chixiao dreams to be. Answer to Nib and handtraps in general, search + negate on the same turn, once per copy for the negate and has protection for itself.
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+ You get a small bonus effect that can be an “auto-win” against certain decks if you use the new tuners as material
I've been playing the new support on Omega for about a week now as it updated earlier than EDO.
Throughout my testing, I'm finding that the deck has a lot more success when played as more of a mid-range combo deck. Similar to sword soul.
What I'm finding is if I try to go toward gateway first they are typically going to negate it and stop me from getting to it and then I've used too many resources to follow up but if I just focus on putting out a few synchros and great shogun backed up with non engine handtraps im still winning most of the games i play even without gateway
Have u tried the six strike trap in your build or is it too situational since it requires u to remove a Bushido counter?
The deck is even nastier in ocg
which list are u using ?
This deck looks very good the chain Block and follow up is great
I love this video because I love Six sam, and you are killing it with content.. BTW though brother red and blue is not needed anymore.. it comes down to preference of course..
Hmhm, kinda agree, 1 and 1 is still ok
1 and 1 is great for alembertian search cannon soldier
@@carbonjoshg4288How u doing that when Red & Blue are level 3 🤔
@@CaliburXL99 as in standard combo, 3 kizans to alembertian, and you only need 1 red 1 blue to ftk since rest of support gives you enough counters to get there (you dont need the infinite anymore to ftk)
@@carbonjoshg4288 I mean if you’re going that route u could also sub in Legendary Secret of the Six samurai(that no 6 Sam list I’ve seen is playing for some reason). For 1 of those Kizans tho FTKing with 6 Sams sounds gimmicky imo.
Let’s goooo I hope we get new gladiator beast cards
Dats y gateway of the six will remain 1 in deck forever 😢. This is my favorite deck since no synchro era ❤
Test the red dragon archfiend with the new red lotus :)
Also can use the new Shining dragon to make dis pater in the opponents turn
„A Sick(x) Synchro“ 🌝
I just hope this deck remains unplayable. There are just some decks that are best left at table 500 for the health of the game. 🙏
do you even bushido counter bro?
If it gets too good they'll just murder Gate.
His decklist runs a total of 5 non-engine (8 if you cound fenrir), and doesn't even run basic Handtraps like Ash or Imperm. Idk if the archetype itself is playable but the deck showcased in the video isn't doing anything real
Just look the list is running pretty zero not engine is unplayable already the engine is to heavy and weak to hand traps
If we get M-X saber Invoker back it’s over.
Terrortop is at 3 & for some reason this list is not playing Kizaru.
There is the new Vanilla monster support with Chamberlain existing for six sam. Since it is a lv3 earth nontuner it's also access to beast with the new lv2 tuner
Also no gateway is at 1 in OCG. They limited it after the master rule change which freed the extra deck zone in anticipation for people doing extra deck loops plays
You can do a loop with evilswarm ouroboros and free kizan summons to hand loop for 3
You can loop five with Omega & Emeral
You can loop ouroboros for 5 even. But thats not even close to the best thing you can do.
Worth noting the new Shien Synchro is also not HOPT on the monster negate
That was a given
The OG shi en and all of the negate monsters back in the day arent HOPT
(Naturia beast/naturia barkion)
(Evolzar laggia/evolzar dolkka)
(Herald of perfection)
@shadowdraqon2479 and yet he almost never goes for multiple and instead goes for a redundant apo. Apo is most likely never getting more than one negate (especially on 3 mats) so a second shien is almost always better as it doesn't clog your EMZ and has protection.
This deck can do literally anything in the game if it goes uninterrupted since it fosters infinite materials with Gateway yet we settle on a board that loses to a lot of board breakers every game.
If anything you hold the Apo for opponent's turn to make with IP to have something worthwhile against a board breaker.
I know the video is 2 months old at this point. But do plan to revisit six samurai’s after the support comes out for the tcg? I like your deck list to see what I need to do to update my old decks
I would have liked more six samurai extra deck monsters that were retrains of the first six
My brain was turning into a noodle from watching those combos. I love Six Sam, but sometimes I forget how mind melting their plays can be, almost as bad as Ritual Beasts.
Its pretty simple, u loop kizans into battle shogun’s arrow pointed zones to get extra counters, then make saryuja draw 4 cards then search mizuho/shinai with gateway then summon both then do infinite red/blue combo. Now u have 9 trillion bushido counters which can handloop or ftk or set up 9000 negates
Great video as always! Question: Why do you have 1 copy of The Six Samurai - Yariza? How does the direct attack help you?
Its a search target off of Acsetism.
The only deck that can take on the maxx c challenge with ease, the greatest of ease !
dark world can also do it
Seems like a cool combo, but cant you just ftk with cowboy-emerald-omega loop?
doesn't that still need 2 emeral?
@@ectoOLDACC you synchro summon omega, then Link it of and use its gy eff to recycle emerald, which then recycles the cowboy and 2 Link monsters
@@Lukav1 squire + kizan + blue/red for omega, link 2 for omega + cowboy with Emeral in GY?
Banish their full hand with rank 4 trishula an emeral. Is vasically an otk, anyway
the amount of turners is limited, you can only special the lvl 2 and the lvl 3 once, unless you keep looping saryuja
What about the six samurai trap to skip turn with temple of kings allowing you to play it turn one? Not too insanely hard to do
So i play this deck my build is alot different. My end board usually consists of. Level 6 legendary shi en.
Level 5 shi en
Great shogun shi en
Naturia exterio
Thunder dragon colossus
And saruja
And usually with a crossout set
I'm excited for a more midrange less combo heavy build of this deck that also plays the other new synch and more non engine. hopefully they'll ban appo too
Four more years of Six Samurai discourse.
What's the point of the XYZ Shien? Just more Counters?
Correct
Most people dont know
The actual reason is becuz he can be revived off of gateway’s 3rd effect as a way to play thru nibiru
The other reason is he makes it possible to get 4 monsters with different names on the field to make saryuja and get the draw 4 effect, if u dont have shadow shien in your extra deck u will have battle shogun/grandmaster/multiple kizans on field and u can make saryuja by treating battle shogun as a 2 link material but u wont get the draw 4 effect
This hurt my eyes to watch did u have no other boards to make
Correct me if I’m wrong but if they maxx c you now can’t you just set up negates for their hand traps and deck them out. (At least in the ocg)
Decking them under maxxc has been the alt wincon of 6sam since red blue was printed
Well you have to do that against ash, 3 veiler, 3 imper and nib
you don't negate their hand traps you just play trought nib, as long as they do not destroy gateway you can play trough most handtraps
@@lucasalarcon3230if they get to gateway, they dont give a fawk about 99% of handtraps u draw. What r u going to gamma/imperm/effect veiler? Im using a continuous spell to add kizan to my hand and kizan is an inherent summon(doesn’t activate) so u cant veiler or imperm or gamma him
This deck doesnt banish so lancea does nothing, gateway doesnt target so dd crow does nothing(also they can make leviair to revive samurai u crow or they make the new enishi synchro to revive banished samurais that u dd crow’d)
Instructor and Yariza can make Naturia Beast so it might not be bad to have it in the extra deck
One of two things will happen- the deck will see a lot of success as a mid-range Swordsoul style deck. Or it will see success as an annoying deck that wastes time in tournaments putting a bunch of counters all over the place and then just wins in time with some random synchro.
How could this possibly be mid range?
This is the most combo deck of all time,
Thats y u cant listen to most people stating stuff about six samurai, they dont know. Which is fair i guess cuz this isnt a meta deck so most people wouldnt know.
Even lithium himself thinks maxx c keeps samurai in check in this video at 8:00, he doesnt know that six samurai can summon infinitely and deck out the opponent if they use maxx c. Its actually a win condition for six samurai.
You have no idea how much potential the Six Samurai and the samurai players have piloting a deck they know as if it was their family.
8:00 six samurai can deck out the opponent if they drop maxx c even if the opp has a 9 trillion card main deck. This deck can summon infinitely. The only weakneses are going 2nd and imperm/veiler/droll/ghost ogre.
They can deck them out without maxx c with number 104 masquerade
Ogre is bad vs the deck now cause klesha. Same as veiler and ash. Only card that is annoying is droll but then again, play around it by making klesha first and youre fine
@@vaonir9164 ooh Thats interesting, i never thought of that, thanks 🙏
show us six samurai ftk with the new support
1 mizuho 2 shinai into infinite counters. Make saryuja, make omega pop both with mizuho. Make cowboy. Burn 8. Make emeral, shuffle everythkng except omega back. Pop emeral. Omega eff recycle omega and emeral. Repeat
Wait,why are you not running the $25 secret sam that is going up in price? Is it not worth running
Which one you mean?
@@Lithium2300 Kizaru, the one that adds when special summoned
Why no kizaru or hatsume? Aren't they were important 1 ofs?
No they are bad card and only ran because there wasn't anything better
^ exactly
@@potatoexe5410 I see
I didnt even run them before this support
C'est bien du nouveau support pour cette archétype je l'aime bien, mais je suis toujours déçu de voir que d'autres sont délaisser comme par exemple protecteur du tombeau qui n'a jamais eu du support qui l'amène à devenir un deck viable face au méta actuel.
Really hope they finally get rid of gateway and give the deck something else
The new support makes the ftk possible again... its juat gonna take forever.😅
What app is this?😊
More extenders, more combos
What prog is this? Is it edopro?
what is six plus samurai?
thirty
Yup definently not looking forward to having to play against any of this stuff in 4 months time. Would be interested to see what the deck could evolve and do without Gateway being a card but that probably also = it not being very viable.
Also what's the name or where exactly is the music you use in some of the videos from Lithium?
Yeah the hand loop, red and blue stuff is cringe to me and is why the deck gets hate/ no love. I dont play modern but ill jump in to play this deck but im not doing the loop / 15 mins turns cringe.
Thanks! I hate it
#Gatewayto3
Run Islode, 1 lvl 1 tuner is OK then and it's a insulator vs ash blossom.
3:00 ehhh gotta disagree 🤷♂️
33 Summons😂 maxx C ciao😂
First!
Banned
Battle shogun of the six Samurai
def run 2 red one blue for the infinite combo at least
Hmhm, thing is, if you can pull that off, you prob don’t need the 3rd because Kizans and Grandmaster do the same.
More blue/red means more normal summons.
Time to ban Gateway again
I don't know. Ogre is being played again, and the six samurai link can be negated with three handtraps at least. Droll can do a good damage to the player turn.
This is way too much time for a board other decks can output in a third of the time
Nobody is gonna abuse this
@@daifminaj9670Taking ages is actually a bonus for a deck means you can combo for 30 minutes and burn your opponent with cowboy.
You can test it all you want, without Gateway of the Six at 3, the deck is dead on arrival.
This is diabolical gameplay. I really don't like this deck or Gateway.
Wow… this is the first time where I fully with all my being disagree and loath a lithium gameplay video.
Starting the video off saying the secret six samurai’s are bad is mind blowing when Kizaru is a net +3, and hatsume plays into braking your opponents board when losing the die roll.
Plus your not playing legendary secret of the six samurai which is mandatory in the new build as it’s a free extention chain blocker that also turns ascetiscism on for both monk and instructor.
Cunning of the six samurai is very good for ignoring the opponents Veiler, imperm HOWEVER using crossout is far superior because keeping the shogun on board always ends with a 3 material apollousa.
Bro over here sleeping hard on kizaru which is nuts
Crossout forces you for handtraps. We’re in a format where decks like Yubel and Snake eyes play througj your 2-3 handtraps. Since Sams are a combo deck without solid 1 card starters, you can’t play many handtraps, so I go board breakers.
I disagree also, most other sams aren’t that good and are not needed because the new ones accomplish the same.
Kizaru is terrible. He is a shet version of stratos, search for a monster that isnt an attribute u already control on the field? Plus kizaru only gets his effect off when special summoned, stratos searches for any hero doesnt matter what the attribute is and gets his when normal or special summoned, if u play kizaru, u r dum.
Gateway will get banned before new support gets released.
I'm waiting for my ICE barrier eand genex video where are does
Ice barrier is up, from last week.
I did Genex a couple of months ago 😄👍
@@Lithium2300 for the love of lithium pls make another on genex couse now they play differenly couse no barone anymore
@ernestofilippucci3611 nobody cares
Watching gateway six sam might actually be more boring than watching paint dry. Anyways Multchummy clears this deck
Dumb people dont know that six samurai can special summon 9 trillion times and deck out people that use maxx c or multichummy.
Its gonna be fun watching people like u at locals side in multichummy against me at locals with a grin on their face as i proceed to special summon 9999999999999999999999 times and make not only u deck out but also every single person on the planet.
@@shadowdraqon2479 Okay then explain to me how you play around non-engine drawn off of multchummy assuming that they have also sided in ghost ogre. Sure you could bring out that new monster negate, but they can just wait unti they can just chain around it.
Time to ban gateway again
Gateway needs to go to 3 for it to compete.
Six Samurai - the most boring solitaire deck that exists. I hate playing against this deck because I have to sit there for 25 minutes watching someone combo...