What is Triple Feed, Needle Feed, Walking Foot? Common Sewing Machine Feeds Explained.
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- What is a triple feed sewing machine and why do you want one. Triple Feed is a better descriptor than walking foot since the walking foot is just one of the three feeding mechanisms included in a triple feed sewing machine.
There are a bunch of terms that describe Industrial Sewing Machine Feeding Mechanisms.
Drop Feed
Walking Foot
Needle Feed
Compound Feed
Unison Feed
Triple Feed
I explain three basic feeding mechanisms that make up most walking foot mechanisms in single or various combinations.
In this video I use the terms Triple Feed, Unison Feed, and Compound Feed interchangeably as I have come to understand them in the industrial sewing machine vernacular. While I may use these terms synonymously they are actually terms coined by different name brands. These terms are combinations of the three previously mentioned feeding mechanisms. (drop, needle, walking foot)
Walking foot is a term that can be somewhat confusing given all the different combinations of feeding mechanisms that can be used on various sewing machines. I consider the use of three simultaneous feeding mechanisms, drop feed, walking foot and needle feed to be the most desirable in most applications that call for a 'walking foot'
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Hello Alex. I run the household and industrial parts department and handle the Industrial machine sales for one of the larger sewing machine companies on the West Coast. Would you be ok with me referencing your channel for educational purposes? I believe it would be very helpful and educational for customers who are new to using industrial machines
Alexander Dyer Thee best video I have ever seen about sewing machine feeds, thank you for posting! 😀
I appreciate the vote of confidence and I would be glad for you to send lots of hungry viewers. 👍
All right! Thanks.
A basic but important question in my opinion, is there a good difference between the three types as far as stitch quality or ability? Could you do a video explaining the pros and cons of each class? thanks in advance
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Thank you. I did not know there were different types of walking foot machines.
I learn something worth while every time I watch one of your videos.
Best explantion I've ever seen for this confusting topic. Thanks!
As a guy that’s getting into sewing in my 40’s I love this channel. Great info and great variety of machines. Keep producing great content!
Sewing is for everybody.
Best explaination ever! Thanks for another awesome video sir. Also, I love that you used the 319W for this demonstration.
New respect for sewing machine repair folks. Wow
Alexander,
I just got around to seeing this video. Although I've had my *walking foot* (Sailrite LSZ-1) sewing machine now for over 10 years, I've never really gotten into heavy use. I'm retired and like sewing industrial type stuff and, am trying to learn. Your video has helped tremendously on even some basic terminology. I surely appreciate you taking the time to explain and show, in close detail, what the different "feeds" are. Very much appreciated.
SR
Drop feed (just the feed dog moves the fabric), needle feed (needle and feed dog work together), Triple, Compound, or Unison Feed (feed dog, foot & needle work together). I wrote this down while watching you, so I can copy and paste the definitions into my notes. One day I’d really like to get a Unison feed industrial machine. You did a video on this type of machine several months ago. I forgot the make of the machine. It could have been a Consew. In any case, this video, as well as that one, are very instructive and they helped me tremendously.
Thank you, Alexander, for your high quality of teaching and demonstration. I always jump to watch your video, when a new one appears. Take care of yourself.
1. Single Feed = Feed dog moves material only.
2. Double Feed = (Feed Dog + Needle) or ( Feed Dog + Walking Foot)
3. Triple Feed = Feed Dog + Needle + Walking Foot
Thank you for demystifying this topic!. I have been unclear and confused about this for decades.
Such an eye opener. Did not know these things before. Thanks a lot. God bless.
such a marvelous explanation. I saw one of your other vids and asked myself what the heck is a triple feed machine.
Sharing this video - and bookmarking on my desktop. This perfectly demonstrates and explains what is otherwise difficult (at best) to explain to friends when they say "What do you mean "walking foot", aren't all sewing machines "walking-foot". 👌 Thanks AD !
Love the video! Thank you for a clear and detailed explanation (as well as demonstration) of different feeding mechanisms. Much appreciated! 🖤🖤🖤
Very good presentation. I tried explaining to my wife the different ways of feeding, but, this video explained what I was unable too.
I have shown this to my wife too. 🙂
Best sewing machine video ever🎛
I learn so much on this channel. Thanks for your expertise. Always learning.
My pleasure!
Thank you Alexander, this video has just shown me everything I need to know in minutes! Brilliant.
Thank you so much for explaining the differences, it was very valuable in helping me decide which type of walking foot machine to purchase
You are welcome
Great explanation! Answers all the questions in one short video! Thanks very very much! 😃🇦🇺
Your videos are bar far among thee best on all things machine sewing, especially when it comes to industrial machines. As always, another fantastic informative video showing that, used properly, social media CAN be a wonderful thing! Thank you. Thumbs up and a long time follower.
Thanks for the info on the machine types! This really clarified the types! Thanks again!!
Thanks mate, I had trouble understanding the lingo until you explained it so clearly!
Love your videos! Been sewing for 3 years, just purchased a Juki 1541S. Now binging all your informative videos! Camera angles and your explanations are on point!
Thank you, I am glad you like them and find value in them.
Very clear explanation. I didn't know about all those different options for moving the fabric!
I am glad you found value in it.
Very informative. I hadn't heard of triple feed before.
I had no idea that different feeds existed! 💕💕💕
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Thanks. I have a singer 211G156 with the triple feed. It was built many years ago and will still be useful long after I’m dead.
That is a good one.
Thank you for this!! I’ve been searching hi and lo for a video showing the difference to help me decide on a machine!
Wow! I never understood this before. Great camera work and narration. THANK YOU! 👏👏👏
Thank you. The best and clearest explanation to be found. Appreciate it sew much.
You are so welcome!
There are so many names that people and manufacturers use to describe a walking foot machine. You do a great job describing them. I see another one in the suggestions along side this video. Cechaflo calls the unison, or compound feed, an "alternating foot".... No wonder people get confused. A compound, or unison feed, where the need moves in combination with a walking center foot, is by far the best. Also the most expensive.
pretty awesome vid. camera positioning excellent. clear concise sensible explanations, excellent. short and not boringly long. excellent. you are really spot on with you craft and making youtube vids. so thanks for your effort.
that was great.After I watched this, I had to go look at my walking foot to see which type of feed I had. (its a triple feed.)
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I have a Singer exactly like the one you have. I was lucky enough to get just about every accessory available along with it. The only thing I had to buy separately was a reprint of the owner's manual. Now if only I had the space to set it up....
Great explanation! Thanks, Alexander!
OMG, I just remember I have a post bed walking foot in my basement, two post bed tween needles walking foot Adler heads as well as two Pfaff single needle walking foot heads I bought in an auction few years ago in London. Gonna fix & start using them for shoemaking 😀👌. It's funny how you spent money on things you later think are junks, dumped them in the basement & later realise how valuable they really are 😁. To think I was going to throw them.
If you still have those machines I could be a buyer
Thanks for this! Another great video, and very informative. I got a Brother DB2-B791-005 industrial a few years ago from a friend, and trying to figure out the needle feed/drop feed combo (no walking foot on my model) confused me for a while! I eventually spoke to someone at a local quilting shop and he mentioned the possibility that it was a "unison feed", which started me down the path of discovery.
Keep up the great work!
Maybe they would understand better if we said walking FEET rather than FOOT, as there are two and not one?
Great presentation bro, now I’m definitely a more educated hobby leather crafter.
Thank you.
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Wow well said 😊 thank you for the post.
Awesome video ... you explained and showed it so clearly ..... thank you so much
All right! Thanks.
Thank you. Very well made video, I learned a lot.
Thank very much. It is helpful and useful
thank you for the explanation!
Unfortunately (?) i do not have an additional machine in my "plan into the foreseeable future" and the likelihood of getting one is even more remote now that i know that i would be looking for a (likely higher priced) model that had the type of feed mechanism i might otherwise have expected from any "industrial walking foot sewing machine".
!!! FORTUNATELY !!! I am now LESS likely to get a machine that doesn't do what i expect it to do.
So far i am getting by with my Janome 423S and a Juki MO-654DE or sewing by hand.
At this time I am better served by learning more than I would by getting a "better" machine.
Thank you very much for your excellent video! After watching your video, I really understand the differences between the three types of feed mechanisms. I will be purchasing a sewing machine and I am looking for good information to help me purchase a machine which is right for my needs.
Great explanation man! Love it. I'm looking for a (used) machine to pattern sew 2 inch webbing such as a box or X in a box. Not having much luck yet. Heard about a "cam tracker" but not finding one of those either. I cant afford a new machine yet hence the search for a used one. Anyway thanks again for your explanation above, you are also a wordsmith.
another excellent vid ... nothing as clear or as good as this on youtube
I try, thank you very much.
Nice video. Very helpful. Would be so super helpful for us to have a growing/updating list of three feed sewing machines. That will help us to shop around. Thanks
Hi Alexander. I totally relate with your videos, they are choc with the facts I need. In 2010 I taught myself to construct and stitch a specific product( Richard Schultz 1966 slings) using TH-cam and tips from Orange County Industrial Sewing Machine Co. and Maquinsal Co. in Santa Ana. After 3 days, I had an acceptable product and a fledgling construction method...little did I know that I would morph from a beginner operator into a pretty darn good tech over the last 10 years...stitching and mastering the fine tuning of my pre-owned Ls2- b837 Unison feed...I have this labor of love stitching v207 bonded polyester top and bobbin and loving it...it's been a crazy ride with this Brother, but worth it. I see you like this machine, I'm hoping we can compare notes.
It is a great machine.
awesome video bro, i saw same new stypes of feed that I didnt know about.
Glad I could help
Very informative video! Thank you very much, and keep up the good work! 👏👏👏😉😉😉
Como fiquei feliz de ver essa maquina, tenho uma Consew. Até quebrada, ela costura. 👍
Very informative. Thanks.
Excellent editing!!!
Thank you for noticing.
Great explanation! Thanks for making this video!
My pleasure!
Wow! Thank you for such a quick and very well illustrated description. This helped me so much. liked and Subscribed ! :)
Great!
Great video and great closeups!
Thanks.
Great and informative video as usual with excellent production value.
Thank you.
thank you, very informative
Excellent explanation
Glad you liked it
Another great video! Thanks!
Thanks for the clarification I just realised mine is a cylinder arm compound walking foot which is a shame because saw a video about how to install a roll foot on a non compound walking foot - I guess it's out of question with my machine. Well, I'll install the walking foot on my flat machine instead.
Great channel and vids!
good information. Thanks.
Thank you, superb info
Glad it was helpful! Thank you.
Thanks for the info
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I like it! Thanks from Indonesia😄
Cool, Thanks from Missouri😀
Wow great video.
Best explanation ever !!
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Great video, as usual. I would like to have seen and heard a little more of your thoughts on the walking foot. You covered the compound walking foot, but what about the simpler walking foot? Aside from that, great stuff.
Thanks. Maybe if you could tell me what model you are thinking of I could better understand what you mean by a simpler walking foot. I appreciate your comment.
Es muy interesante e inteligente lo que sabe sr:
Great video
Excellent videos, thank you.
Thanks
Thank you so much, I finally got it! Your video came at the right time. My home sewing machine has plenty of fancy gadgets, but it can’t handle several layers of denim, nylon straps, artificial leather and canvas, which often occur in bag making and sewing harnesses for dogs.
I was wondering what kind of machine I was having to look for, and only „industrial“ came to my mind.
Now I understand, that it’s all about the fabric transportation system. So I better start looking for a triple feed, which should easily manage to sew multiple layers of heavier materials, right?
Regards from Germany, keep making those excellent videos!
Pfaff has double feed (IDT: top and bottom feed dog), that's already a lot more than single feed. And does weird stuff like triple stitch
Thank you for this very much coveted information. I want to buy a second hand walking foot machine since I already have the high speed one but boy they are pricey
Yes and they may never be this cheap again. 😂
Very nice presentation.
Thanks
Great Video, Great Quality. Love the quality of information you provide and the actually machine demonstrations you show. Do you think you can do a shop tour video, showcasing your machines and work space?
Thank you. IDK, I'm shy.😶
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Thanks for the video! would love to see one on the Adler 669
I don't have the 669 but I am working on an 867 video that I think most will apply.
I'm a total novice who finds this very interesting. I've been saving for a machine to do upholstery work on some sofas I'm making. My local upholstery shop kind of acts like they don't want to share info with me. I'm on the verge of making a go at my own furniture company, so I need to learn this, at least enough to make enough to hire a full time upholsterer of my own. Can you give me some tips on what kind of machine to get started with?
This was very interesting. I learned something new from your video. I would like to know what each feed type is used for.
Good Idea.
Simply put, there is a bottom walking foot, a top walking foot, and a needle feed.
A walking foot is merely using friction to move the stack of materials and keep them together. The most basic machines have one sided walking foot or feet, usually at the bottom of the material stack. Friction feed on both sides is better than single sided friction feed, so walking feet on both sides of the material stack is better.
A needle feed keeps the stack together at the point of insertion, so it's even better, when friction/pressure alone wouldn't do the job.
Thanks
Excellent explanation! I have a singer 99k and a singer 241, as well as a sailrite ultra feed clone. , but now I know the singer 151w1 I'm getting ready to start using is the best since it has unison feed. I can't wait to try it on auto upholstery! Do you know if the 111 has the same timing belt as my 151w1? Mine is the original belt. Seems good but I'd like to upgrade. Thanks!
What can you tell me about the 111w102 singer?
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Great video...
I just purchased a Sailrite LSZ-1 last year... (sigh)
I just wish I had found your video before the purchase... (yes, I see it wasn't posted yet... (grin))...
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I do love my Sailrite... I would also appreciate which type you would recommend for which type of sewing...
everyday home projects, heavy duty home products, and industrial canvas/leather production work (grin).
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You have me as a new subscriber... thanks for your video efforts, knowledge, and willingness to share it all.
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Until that time. . .
For general home sewing, I recommend a person get an older, all metal home sewing machine. These have sewn thousands perhaps millions of garments. Then get a triple feed for all the heavier stuff the home machine can't handle.
Who knew!!! Thank you
Awesome as usual. Very clear and very informative.
Someday I would enjoy hearing your ideas of which feed may work better for certain applications.
Thank you.
Thank you, a very good idea.
@@AlexanderDyer Yes, please, I would also LOVE to hear about it 👏👏👏👏👏
Thanks for the video. Do you know if any Nechi's model has double feed mechanism?
Great video. I want a smooth feed. Is there such a machine. One that doesn’t jerk ur fabric through with each stitch
Hello Alexander
Thanks for showing the difference in feeding systems.
Have the same Brother LS2-B837 as you show and have trouble timing it.
Can you suggest where to get engineers manual for it?
Beaks tread occasionally and pulling tread tight when back stitching
Thanks, Al
This may help. mans.io/files/viewer/47141/16#navigate_bar
Which is good hemming machine for a tailor shop
Alex, can you provide some
Tip on how to walk over thick seams in leather clothing making? My DNU1541 has hard time walk over the thick bumps, people suggest changing length. But I wonder if the center foot can be longer that it takes a longer foot print.
Thank you very much for the lesson. Which system is the best for vinyl, leather, home decor fabrics?
The three feed system.
Gracias por compartir sus conocimientos saludos desde Chetumal Quintana Roo México una pregunta tengo una maquina singer 20 U se puede adaptar ese mecanismo de walking foot?
It does not work that way.
Alaxandra. Thank you for another brilliant video, one question? Can one use a walking foot on a straight stitch industrial sewing machine, if not is it better to get a walking foot for a domestic machine? I am sewing a lot of organsa fabrics and I am struggling to stop the fabric from moving and twisting, maybe you know the answer to my problem please. Thanks once again for your videos
This is not an accessory and I have no experience with such an accessory. Also I have not worked with organsa but I have worked with mesh which is somewhat challenging for what I would imagine are some of the same challenges associated with organsa. My solution was to overcast the edges of all my pieces prior to assembly with my 3 thread overlock. This gave the edge stability which helped when assembling the seams.
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That was a second hand machine so you would just have to get lucky and find a Brother LS2 B837 th-cam.com/video/ua5_zIYxNpE/w-d-xo.html. Just as good and easier to find would be the Juki 1541 or 1508 new and used. amzn.to/2x1XnrR amzn.to/3b8VAjw
Thank you for your channel and great videos! I was wondering if you might possibly be able to create a video that shows a noob how to change the feet on a triple feed. I just got the Juki 1508NS and can't find any videos or information in the instruction manual on how to swap my walking feet for the zipper or skinny feet. Help :)
Thanks for your comments, I will see what I can do.
@@AlexanderDyer I did figure out how to change the foot to the zipper foot but it looks like the needle is touching the back of the little hole in the base of the foot. I think it might be the cause of breaking my top thread. I had tried loosening the tension which did help a bit but after sewing a few dozen stitches, the top thread breaks again. Is there a way to upload a few pics here? Thanks!
Hi, I found your video very informative and helpful tips as well. I have a JUki 2810 and having a feeding problem. The material doesn't move forward when I stiched and I found out that the feed dog is moving differently in such that when the needle goes down the feed dog is at the lowest position and when the needle comes back the feed dog rises up at the highest position puling the material backwards. when I watched your video I saw the correct movement of the feed dog together with the needle. How can I make the feed dog move in the correct direction? I have a unison / triple feed. Thanks a lot. Your opinion is very much appreciated. I had subscribed with your channel as well.
I don't think I am able to convey the process but you are definitely out of adjustment. You might need a mechanic for that one or try to find a good manual with adjustment steps. Sorry there is no easy answer here that I can think of.