I have the gaggia pro put a 9 bar spring and bottomless portafilter some upgraded baskets a good scale nock box rocky grinder. I love my little set up. It's all you need. I'm having grea espresso and cappuccinos. Can't recommend it enough.
Picked up this exact model second hand last week specifically to mod. The Gaggiuino mods (the PIP at 12.54) turns the humble Gaggia into a flow profiling and pressure profiling machine like a DIY Decent. That is phenomenal potential at a super low price point. Even though the Classic Evo Pro doesn't come with automatic pre-infusion, by turning the steam knob a half turn at the start of the shot for a few seconds (make sure there is a jug or a cup under the steam wand) manual and repeatable pre-infusion is easy to achieve.
Now, unfortunately, I have an EVO with the problem of flaking, but I have never heard anything about the EVO having a new heat stabilizer, no one else has mentioned anything about this, can you elaborate a little more on that detail, I don't really follow how it worked!?
Gaggia and Boilergate are a fact unfortunately I am one of those affected, sad I really like Gaggia but don't buy one before they remove the coating in the boiler
I also am affected by the issue. I hate myself for buying it but I hate Gaggia much more for going through with the stupid move to coat their alu boiler instead of using stainless steel ones.
'Boilergate'. As I understand Gaggia is going back to the uncoated boiler with their new products. It remains to be seen what will happen with the bulk of new Classics with the coated boiler.
@@alexanderkowollik3681 AFAIK, they haven't gone back to the uncoated boilers, but instead they have "changed" the coating process. That does not invoke much confidence in gaggia, for me anyway.
@@surfacepro5519 That's what the distributor in The Netherlands told me as well. However you could be right. And there still must be a lot of brand new Classics with the coated boiler out there in shops. In my case: I had the boiler issue with my Evo as well and the distributor replaced the coated boiler with the uncoated previous version in accordance with official guidelines by Gaggia.
Not this batch. I have heard that one particular batch with manufacturer date of 6/23 had flaking. I'm confident it was an isolated event but I also hope the company is working to ensure it doesn't happen again.
@@Rydecoffeecoach It can only be true if Gaggia can travel back in time because people have received machines well before that date 6/23 that are affected and continue to receive machines into the new year that are also affected,they must have made such a hell of a big batch that day!
not a particular batch,mine is manufactured 10/23 and have the problem as many others in forums and groups for gaggia,the date have nothing to do its general problem due to mistake at polymerization of coating inside of boiler@@Rydecoffeecoach
@Rydecoffeecoach I'm looking to buy either stock Gaggia EvoPro OR Rancillio V6, and then mod them with the gaggiuino modification. Looking at the boiler capacity and brass construction, I'm thinking the Rancillio although the Gaggia looks very nice. Any thoughts?
Personally, if you're going to the Gagguino route then I'd choose the Silvia. It's a much better build quality and since boilergate at Gaggia I've gone a bit sour on their manufacturing. The portafilter handles on the Gaggia are criminally basic.
Had to return my new Gaggia Evo after a week of having it due to nonstick coating flaking off through the steam wand and group head. Manufactured 06/2023. So disappointed! I had already purchased gagguino mod kit as well, so now I’m thinking about trying to install it in a Rancillo Silvia or a Profitec GO. There should be a class action lawsuit!!
@@Rydecoffeecoach Now, unfortunately, I have an EVO with the problem of flaking, but I have never heard anything about the EVO having a new heat stabilizer, no one else has mentioned anything about this, can you elaborate a little more on that detail, I don't really follow how it worked!?
Unfortunately I just think the Breville express is so poorly made. The grinder is good but it's better to have it separate (Breville smart grinder pro) but the actual machine is just not well made. Better off getting a Breville dual boiler. The Gaggia is a great machine as long as you are prepared to be patient and learn its idiosyncrasies. 😅👌
There are lots of tampers with a stainless steel base and timber handles which are nice and weighted. You should be able to find any cheap 58mm tampers online and if you want the best ones then look at Pullman tampers.
Hoping to buy a home machine soon, I'm curious if the MiiCoffee Apex (Turn - Legato), actually will stand the test of longevity vs the Gaggia Classic Pro... only 20 years into the future will we truly know right? Am I wrong to notice that the Capresso EC Pro and the Apex-Legato are similar looking machines?
The Capresso EC pro might look similar at a glance but they are vastly different machines and I wouldn't trust the build of the Capresso. The Turin Legato "Apex" is the one you want! 👌
I am OK with a plastic tamper because realistically if someone is buying this machine they are not new to coffee, they already have a tamper. What I do have an issue with is that after Covid people started buying espresso machines, so it went from just enthusiasts buying these to regular people who just want a good cup of coffee. The issue is a regular person is not OK with 15-20 heat-up time, this is why Breville and the new Gaggia that were developed after Covid have super fast heat-up times. Gaggia needs to update the bowler if it wants to sell to non enthusiasts.
Aliminum is number one reason to amnesia so thats quite unhealty. I can';t imagine alimum boiler and boiling wwater comes together and you take that metal everyday into ur body... Its now 9 bar from the box btw.
Well the Turin Legato (also under other names) is definitely competing with the Gaggia offering. I'm also disappointed with this latest model, not much of a difference really, just internal upgrades as you pointed out.
Machines should not be using aluminium where the liquid comes into contact - its proven that kitchen utensils that are aluminium can contribute to the onset of dementia with a lot of use. My grandmother unfortunately died of dementia and we believe the plaque build up was due to continuously using the same aluminium cutlery for years and years. This one thing that puts me off this machine...
I have the gaggia pro put a 9 bar spring and bottomless portafilter some upgraded baskets a good scale nock box rocky grinder. I love my little set up. It's all you need. I'm having grea espresso and cappuccinos. Can't recommend it enough.
Was going to buy one, but then heard about the flaking boiler problem. That would have been very frustrating.
Pretty sure they fixed that a year ago.
@@maxfuchs3387are you sure cause I am planning to buy one rite now
@@maxfuchs3387 nope i just had this problem in june 2024
Picked up this exact model second hand last week specifically to mod. The Gaggiuino mods (the PIP at 12.54) turns the humble Gaggia into a flow profiling and pressure profiling machine like a DIY Decent. That is phenomenal potential at a super low price point.
Even though the Classic Evo Pro doesn't come with automatic pre-infusion, by turning the steam knob a half turn at the start of the shot for a few seconds (make sure there is a jug or a cup under the steam wand) manual and repeatable pre-infusion is easy to achieve.
Now, unfortunately, I have an EVO with the problem of flaking, but I have never heard anything about the EVO having a new heat stabilizer, no one else has mentioned anything about this, can you elaborate a little more on that detail, I don't really follow how it worked!?
Gaggia and Boilergate are a fact unfortunately I am one of those affected, sad I really like Gaggia but don't buy one before they remove the coating in the boiler
I also am affected by the issue. I hate myself for buying it but I hate Gaggia much more for going through with the stupid move to coat their alu boiler instead of using stainless steel ones.
'Boilergate'. As I understand Gaggia is going back to the uncoated boiler with their new products. It remains to be seen what will happen with the bulk of new Classics with the coated boiler.
@@alexanderkowollik3681 AFAIK, they haven't gone back to the uncoated boilers, but instead they have "changed" the coating process. That does not invoke much confidence in gaggia, for me anyway.
@@surfacepro5519 That's what the distributor in The Netherlands told me as well. However you could be right. And there still must be a lot of brand new Classics with the coated boiler out there in shops. In my case: I had the boiler issue with my Evo as well and the distributor replaced the coated boiler with the uncoated previous version in accordance with official guidelines by Gaggia.
Hey there Coach! Have you had any flaking issues with your Classic Evo Pro?
Not this batch. I have heard that one particular batch with manufacturer date of 6/23 had flaking. I'm confident it was an isolated event but I also hope the company is working to ensure it doesn't happen again.
@@Rydecoffeecoach same here. Hopefully it was an isolated incident…
@@Rydecoffeecoach It can only be true if Gaggia can travel back in time because people have received machines well before that date 6/23 that are affected and continue to receive machines into the new year that are also affected,they must have made such a hell of a big batch that day!
not a particular batch,mine is manufactured 10/23 and have the problem as many others in forums and groups for gaggia,the date have nothing to do its general problem due to mistake at polymerization of coating inside of boiler@@Rydecoffeecoach
Great video!
Had to return two--the original and the replacement--because of the boiler issues
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@Rydecoffeecoach I'm looking to buy either stock Gaggia EvoPro OR Rancillio V6, and then mod them with the gaggiuino modification. Looking at the boiler capacity and brass construction, I'm thinking the Rancillio although the Gaggia looks very nice. Any thoughts?
Personally, if you're going to the Gagguino route then I'd choose the Silvia. It's a much better build quality and since boilergate at Gaggia I've gone a bit sour on their manufacturing. The portafilter handles on the Gaggia are criminally basic.
I just ordered one (the 85 anniversary edition)! I will roll the dice and hope I don't have the boiler issue.
Had to return my new Gaggia Evo after a week of having it due to nonstick coating flaking off through the steam wand and group head. Manufactured 06/2023. So disappointed! I had already purchased gagguino mod kit as well, so now I’m thinking about trying to install it in a Rancillo Silvia or a Profitec GO. There should be a class action lawsuit!!
Thanks for sharing, I haven't heard of it happening a lot so maybe can't get a class action. As for your next machine, go with the Go! 👌
@@Rydecoffeecoach Now, unfortunately, I have an EVO with the problem of flaking, but I have never heard anything about the EVO having a new heat stabilizer, no one else has mentioned anything about this, can you elaborate a little more on that detail, I don't really follow how it worked!?
I am in the exact same boat. Idk what to do now. They sent me a new boiler, also coated. Was about to start on my gaggiuino build
great review!
How’s breville barista express compared to gaggia classic pro??
Unfortunately I just think the Breville express is so poorly made. The grinder is good but it's better to have it separate (Breville smart grinder pro) but the actual machine is just not well made. Better off getting a Breville dual boiler. The Gaggia is a great machine as long as you are prepared to be patient and learn its idiosyncrasies. 😅👌
Hi, which tamper would be perfect for the Gaggia Classic Evo Pro? Thank you
There are lots of tampers with a stainless steel base and timber handles which are nice and weighted. You should be able to find any cheap 58mm tampers online and if you want the best ones then look at Pullman tampers.
Hoping to buy a home machine soon, I'm curious if the MiiCoffee Apex (Turn - Legato), actually will stand the test of longevity vs the Gaggia Classic Pro... only 20 years into the future will we truly know right? Am I wrong to notice that the Capresso EC Pro and the Apex-Legato are similar looking machines?
The Capresso EC pro might look similar at a glance but they are vastly different machines and I wouldn't trust the build of the Capresso. The Turin Legato "Apex" is the one you want! 👌
I have considered this machine but I'm going with the Profitec Go
I am OK with a plastic tamper because realistically if someone is buying this machine they are not new to coffee, they already have a tamper.
What I do have an issue with is that after Covid people started buying espresso machines, so it went from just enthusiasts buying these to regular people who just want a good cup of coffee.
The issue is a regular person is not OK with 15-20 heat-up time, this is why Breville and the new Gaggia that were developed after Covid have super fast heat-up times.
Gaggia needs to update the bowler if it wants to sell to non enthusiasts.
Isn’t the new gaggia espresso style/deluxe machine the newer version you’re asking for? It is still simple with pid.
No, I'm wanting something at the same level of the Rancilio Silvia Pro X.
What about the lelits, like the Anna with pid
Yeh, I love the quality. I'm not a huge fan of the look.
I bought a month ago and no problems.
Aliminum is number one reason to amnesia so thats quite unhealty. I can';t imagine alimum boiler and boiling wwater comes together and you take that metal everyday into ur body... Its now 9 bar from the box btw.
Well the Turin Legato (also under other names) is definitely competing with the Gaggia offering. I'm also disappointed with this latest model, not much of a difference really, just internal upgrades as you pointed out.
The Turin could be a killer machine if it's as good as advertised and durable. 🤞🤞
Well, it better stack up, buddy... here in Brazil, unfortunately, we don't have so many options. :/ ☕
At least you have this option, it will be great.
Machines should not be using aluminium where the liquid comes into contact - its proven that kitchen utensils that are aluminium can contribute to the onset of dementia with a lot of use. My grandmother unfortunately died of dementia and we believe the plaque build up was due to continuously using the same aluminium cutlery for years and years. This one thing that puts me off this machine...