Burley Travoy folding trailer with a Brompton folding bike
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- Most of the packages we send out go via Royal Mail
Larger ones go via carrier - and we drop these off at a drop-off point each morning
We try and take them by Brompton - though this can be a struggle when there are lots (especially after a public holiday weekend)
The T bag and rack are good for carrying - but we're running out of capacity, so decided to give the Burley Travoy trailer a go - and share the details
Like the Brompton, it folds down to a nice small size for storage
Brilliant! Great demo thanks. My sister is hoping to use her Travoy with an electric Brompton for her business in London.
They tow so well! You hardly know they are there! Good luck to your sister.
I've had a travoy for a couple of years and alongside a Brompton it's been such a great tool for doing all the communal shopping during lockdown. The updated travoy has some needed improvements on the original, namely the wheel guards and kickstand.
Thanks for the watching and the great experience feedback
A few people have questioned the stress on the seatpost - have you had any issues?
Do you tow much weight?
@@brilliantbikes Hi. No issues at all and I've regularly overloaded the travoy. If you keep the weight as low as possible, even with 20kg loaded, you can push and pull the travoy with one finger while it is unhitched. So once it's hitched up the weight doesn't really lean on the hitch rather the weight is balanced over the axle of the trailer. The Brompton then just gives it a wee pull along.
One week later after watching your video, yes l bought a trailer. Due to windy weather haven’t used it yet, but l have assembled it in doors and attached it to my Brompton. Like you finding it very easy to assemble. Thankyou for your advice. Best wishes to you and all your viewers. 🌈☺️👌
Thank you so much for watching and for your comments, they are great to use!
Bought mine from you at Brilliant Bikes at 18:16:21 having thankfully missed out on an eBay sale earlier today, and having watched a vast number of TH-cam videos.
Your vids are always well worth a watch. Informative and a pleasure.
Thanks BB from a very satisfied customer.
Thank you so much for your kind comments, and for choosing us :-)
We look forwards to hearing your feedback on the trailer too
Brompton owners manual 2019. Page 23 under the heading WARNING !
First paragraph last sentence." The bike and rack are not designed to pull
a trailer." ???
@@geoh1896 I've used mine quite a few times to tow our toddler in Burley D'Lite Single and it seemed just fine, although obviously the trailer points down a little. He seemed to enjoy it!
Love this trailer , use it for shopping and last Sunday I took it across the Pennines on the transpennine trail from penistone to hadfield , on some very steep and rough bits I kept shouting to my mate is the trailer still there as I dare not look back lol, it really feels as if your not pulling anything, even the shopping center where bike aren’t allowed in I folded up my FIIDO D1 ebike and strapped it to the trailer and presto allowed in , this trailer is Brilliant
Very cool! Thanks for sharing your experience
It really does feel like it's not there
We found that it was the extra length that we noticed - almost hitting parked cars and clipping kerbs. Turning the Brompton int a 'Long Vehicle'
Great video.
At first glance it looks a lot like an upmarket golf trolley.
Given that many owners might also have such a trolley languishing in their shed or garage, I'm a tad surprised that no-one has thought about developing a universal clamp+coupling to enable them to be utilised like this.
Thank you great video. I'm going to purchase a Burley Travoy for my folding bike. It was great to see how easy it is to attach
The Circe Atlas collapsible trailer is the natural companion cargo trailer to the Brompton as it collapses beautifully to tiny dimensions within it's own bag and doesn't affect the folding mechanism.
There are Circe Atlas trailers being used to deliver boxes of bicycles in the UK and there are reviews and videos online.
I bought mine immediately after watching the TH-cam video of it being assembled, I just fell in love with the way it assembled and collapsed away when required, rather like the Brompton!
I paid £150 and am very impressed with the design, components, manufacture and quality, you really do have to remember that it's behind you.
I like the idea of towing rather than weighing down the bicycle with everything strapped on and the versatility simply cannot be beaten.
Thank you for the videos. I love watching them all. This carrier is so convenient
Thank you for watching and your really kind / inspiring comment
We have found it a good alternative to the rack
So far we have only used for short journeys and we don’t carry anything too heavy
BRILLIANT, of course! Looks like a very handy bit of kit, packs down very neatly and really useful for errands and whatnot around town, but not convinced I’d want to take it touring... Have you tried the Cyclone Chubby = slightly bulkier, but more stable, and encloses content securely, plus doubles as a backpack for flying with the Brompton inside... about double the price though, and probably overkill for local runs, but a definite contender! Strapping skills and spatial awareness improve with practice (😉) but it wasn’t the krypton factor so worries there😂, excellent buff-wrangling skills 😷! You all stay safe too, and thanks for another useful and informative watch!
Now here's a funny thing.
Given all of the comments bandied around regarding the potential loading on the seat post and whether it breaches Brompton's recommendations.
On the Brompton youtube channel there is a video showing a guy in the USA commuting to work by Brompton plus folding boat which he tows behind his bike.
Will Butler-Adams, Brompton's CEO, during a subsequent visit to the States, did another video sharing the journey with the guy and his passion.
Do have a look at both videos and make up your own minds . . . . . .
Links would have been helpful...
@@pedrovision6987 A few minutes searching and you'll soon find them, but I seem to recall that they're on the Brompton bicycle TH-cam channel
This has become my new favourite channel!
Always enjoy your videos.
Thanks for watching yet again
We enjoy your feedback
I received my Berley lastweek and now waiting for my two Grocery bags to come in. I'm very happy that I bought it,can't wait to give it a try. Thank You for your videos my Dear.
Thanks for watching and commenting - we appreciate that
We’re living ours so far - sometimes forget it is wider and longer than before - so cut corners like an articulated lorry!
Hope you have fun with yours too
Let us know what you think - and tell us about the bags
Stay safe
@@brilliantbikes No comment on my post?
Hello, are you planning to do videos on the other styles of trailers? A comparison video looking at how much each holds and how easy they are to maneuver off the bike would be really useful to help decide which one to buy.
The new version looks so much better. I have the first version which i bought off someone, it is a little bit rusty and the rubberized fabric is shedding. I use it to cycle about 20km in the city to the beach with my inflatable kayak and fishing gear which total up about 30 kilo.
Very clear - thank you. What a shame it isn't called Travois!
Great review! Very informative and thorough (e.g., test drive over gravel, assembly and disassembly).
"Cover my face." Ha! (rolleyes).. Nice trailer..
I hope we don’t have to go back to that! Thanks for watching!
This is a superb review. So many reviews just gloss over the details.
I have long admired this trailer but wondered about the "see-saw" effect it might have on the frame. I guess it will be fine as long as you don't over load it. I did call Brompton myself last year and they advised that the Brompton was not designed to pull trailers, but I have definitely seen somewhere on either their website or in their paperwork that the Brompton can pull an axle-attached trailer. Still really like this Burley Travoy though :)
Nice bit of kit and well presented - thank you👍
This is great and design, I need one now.
Brilliant! Thank you👍⚡️🎉
Thank you for watching!
Brilliant presentation and you even started it in the buff, I will be getting this trailer for my folding e bike(not a Brompton ) you got KG’s mixed up with pounds but apart from that perfect
Anything that can help people be 'car free' is welcome. Try making a list of all you need to own and run a car, the licences, paperwork and costs - then plan how cycling, helped by trains and delivery firms , can declutter life.
We need a push version of this with a third wheel
Great video! Smart design!
Thank you for watching and your kind comment
Gotta get one
They are great and tow so well! Thanks for watching!
Great vid👍, i know they take alot of work
Bought one of these a few years ago from halfords, it seemed like an ingenious idea but in reality it generates a lot of drag. Rode round the block once with it then packed it up & took it straight back for a refund. Recommend trying before buying if you can.
Thanks for watching and the kind comment
Great feedback on your experience
We are only using for short journeys right now - let’s see how we get on
@Alien On a Bike Haha, i use my Bromy when I've only got a couple hours.
Pushing Sturmy Archers finest up some steep hills on a 25 mile run does the trick nicely on its own😀
? Trouble with flipping or just the drag? I hardly know mine is there when empty.
Enjoyed your vid, as always. Would appreciate it if you could make a video about replacing the bottom bracket.
The Park Tool site has excellent videos
Bought my travoy 3 weeks ago and use it with a Brompton and with a normal city bike. The clamp is really handy. Folding the Brompton while a loaded Travoy is attached to it hardly possible.
There does not seem to be much infornation on the 2 speed electric Brompton on TH-cam. It would be good to see how it copes on different terrains, and whether because you have less gears thatn the 6 speed does this mean that you need more help from the battery.?
Love the video's by the way.
Thankyou 👍☺️
An important feature for bigger wheels which is the telescoping handle needs to be shown. My older travoy rubs on the back tire of my fatbike when I go over speed bumps.
Thanks for watching and pointing g that omission out
We were hurrying a bit with the excitement of a new toy!
@@brilliantbikesAnother video with a bigger bike or something strapped on a back rack of the Bromptons would show the major upgrade of the Travoy. Burleys own promo video missed this feature.
@@brilliantbikes also American companies use pounds not kilos so your capacity figure is to high.
Excellent BB. I am convinced, so l just bought one.
I am seeing that you have the seatpost very up and also your legs seem very stretched. What is for smaller people can they actually use the Travoy at all? For example my girlfriend has the seatpost all inside (her regular bike, not Brompton) and it is actually impossible to mount the Travoy on the seatpost. I am also imaging if you would put the seatpost more inside and therefore have to mount the Travoy more low, would it actually work or would it put it in a weired angle to the bicycle? If you understand what I mean...
That Burley Travoy folding trailer is really a Tardis in disguise. It's bigger on the inside (of the bag) than it is when built!!!!!!! hahahaha
I love your channel and the way you explain things, so easy to follow, so nicely expIained. Many thanks indeed!
I am looking for a troley for a brompton for shopping in supermarket up to 15 kg of food prododucts. Any product that can fit?
Many thanks in advance.
Excellent. I use a Cyclone Chubby trailer by Radical. Great for heavier and larger items and it will also fit another Brompton in it. Are you able to do a film on that one? Great films overall. V helpful.
I also have a Cyclone trailer but went for their Trekking model which is narrower and fits our doorways. Both Cyclones are good for throwing stuff/groceries in - the Burley looks as though one can’t do that?
@@petergilbert72 I believe you can buy their large, open topped bags that you can just chuck stuff into.
@@pootlingalong8928 The bottom bag comes with it and is decent. Their other luggage is pricey but decent. their straps are flimsy and tangle
Very clever !
Thank you for watching and for commenting
I believe it shld be 60 pounds capacity, not 60kg. However, thanks for the amazing review as usual
Whoops! You’re right! 60 lbs / 73 Kg! Thank for correcting us and for watching
@@brilliantbikes 60 lbs is about 27kg
Correct me if I am wrong. One bicycle vlogger in america stressed out the faulty design of the 2020 burley travoy handle. Burley said that they will replace the handle with the new design. My question is, will the Uk customers gets the new non faulty handle design?
I own a Burley Travoy.. but not (yet) a Brompton. Does the Brompton fit into the Travoy ? For example for going to the train station, and there put the folded Brompton in the trailer’s bag ? In France you can take any train with your bike, but only if it’s in.a bag or luggage.
Funny video. It made me laugh just because you seamed to hide your smile envy for some reason.
ok im sold on one now
They are great and really easy to tow!
Thanks for watching!
Great video, any suggestion for something to tow a child bike with Brompton. thanks
Not yet! We are planning on testing the Thule Chariot which we use as our stroller when she gets a bit older (3 months to go), so watch this space. 😀
@@brilliantbikes great, looking forward to that :)
Any idea what’s the max width of the cargo on the base now that the wheel guards come built in? Thank you!
Good video. Thanks
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Does the included storage bag still attach to the trailer? The previous version’s includes storage bag could attach to the trailer when being used.
Nicely done! How would you compare this product with the Brompton-specific Chubby? I believe the Chubby is about twice the price. But because of your technically specific reviews, I would love to hear your comparison. Thanks.
Nice looking trailer/trolley. I'm a bit confused by the capacity though. In the video you say you mustn't exceed 40kg on the bottom of the trailer and 20kg on the top section. But I just went to the Burley website to look at the produce and it says in the specification that the capacity is 27kg.
As I'd use this for both normal grocery shopping and also carting materials to/from my allotment, including sacks of compost, spuds, etc, the 27kg is marginal on what I might need, but 60kg would be fine. Is that pounds->kilos conversion issue here, as 27kg is 60lbs?
The total capacity is correct at 27kg, think we might have not made the kg versus lbs clear in the video.
Wonder if that was my tyre in the pizza box that I ordered a few weeks back!
Thanks for watching and paying attention
If it was a few weeks ago - then no ... it would have been someone elses. We are always slightly worried people may think its food and eat them, maybe we need a "this is not a pizza" label just to be safe!
Beware.... I used a burley for my brompton in the 1st year I had it. Because of the weight of myself and the stuff I had on the burley I ended up ruining the bearings on both wheels of the brompton. When I took the brompton to cycle republic they said I have voided the warranty and wouldn't help. If they warned me about not exceeding the weight on the bike i wouldn't have ran into this problem.
Thanks for watching and sharing your experience
What were you carrying?
It seems strange to wear bearings on both wheels due towing - unless it was very heavy
Did you do a lot of miles?
Hello. Well it was the 1st time i tried. It was a heavy load. I made sure I didn't exceed the maximum weight of the burley, but I didn't think for one second I would have a problem with the brompton. I had the c bag on the front with about 3kg in it. I set off on the canal tow paths and about an hour into the journey i felt and heard clicking and realised it was the bearings on the brompton. I'm 6 ft and weight around 14stone. I wish the guy who sold me the brompton would have said hey be careful putting too much weight on the bearings. When I took it to cycle republic they got in touch with brompton and brompton warned that If you use a trailer you can void the warranty. So cycle republic just bluntly said I have voided the warranty and wiped their hands clean of me. I was gutted of course.
@@adamfarrah5230 ? Sturmy Archer bearings blown or 2spd?
Factory manual says no to trailers.
Frame , seat post and brakes are the issue. Voids Waranty.
So why is it a good idea?
Can that fit on Brompton Racks when folded?
Great question! We are pretty sure it would, but will trial it and let you know.
Great video.Very clear introduction to the Burley. Incidentally...... How did the boxes change positions from 6.10 to 6.11? I noticed the straps coming loose on the gravel track!!
Her accent reminds me of Queen Elizabeth.
😂 thank you (I think 🤔) thank you for watching!
@@brilliantbikes I meant that in a good way lol.
@@brilliantbikes it sounds very distinguished. My accent makes me sound like a hillbilly
Hi is the seat post alright with that load ?
Thanks for watching
Great question - and quite difficult to measure
The load in the trailer is a lot less than the weight of the rider (though the direction of force is different)
We will let you know how we get on
Great. Now I need one of these!! How much does it weigh? Thanks for your lovely vid 🌷
Can you show us how to do a step by step guide to convert a Brompton from 3 speed to 6 speed? thanks
Thanks for watching
That’s a great idea
The procedure is slightly different on pre-2017 vs post-2017
(Old style shifter vs new style shifter)
Which one do you have?
@@brilliantbikes Thank you, I have a post 2017 Brompton...its a lovely little bike, but converting to 6 gears would be the icing on the cake :)
I think you mis-spoke about the weight limit. Int he video you say 60kg weight limit, whereas the online ad reads 60 lbs (pounds). That’s a big difference!
Ordered one today
Hi how much did it cost and where did you order from
Thanks
M D £276 from Triton cycles( London) but they don’t have a good reputation at the moment , I’ll let you know if it turns up
Ordered it on Friday 9pm arrived following Thursday
Where ? To get in Australia what shop
Oh! That’s a good question! Thanks for watching! Link as follows:
cargocycles.com.au/product/burley-travoy-ii/
Ok just subscribed
BIG RE-DESIGN compared with older model. Hitch, frame, colors , wheel guard , foot, all of which were problematic. Handles much differently on my 16-20"bikes. I had very poor stability with my Dahon, but stable on my Full sized bikes with the original. Only thing I could tell that changed was relation of pivot to rear axle, but flipped very easily regardless of loading. ?Any trouble with flipping with Brompton? It is noted Brompton specificly warns against trailers. Video of my trailer shows lots of frame flex. The factory straps are pretty thin. Standard Drings fit with a touch of the Dremel for DIY straps. Needed for carrying the Brommie, which was too wide to clear the trailer wheels if resting on the shelf.
I love the Burley!, how does it ride when loaded?, any twisting when cornering as it's fixed to seatpost?, thanks
Thank you for watching and for your question.
It’s almost like it’s not there, I don’t find any twisting - I have to remember I am a long vehicle and give the corners some more space!
@@brilliantbikes great, thank you, am very tempted!
Before I got my brompton, I used a trailer from anderson. They are very good too. But they dont go on a brompton, so I had to change. The axe width is very similar on both trailers. But what really is better on the travoy are the wheels, that are a lot bigger. This does a lot for the stable use.
Are you sre about those loadings?? You say 40kg on the base and 20kg on the top. I have the pre 20 version and its 20 on the base and 10 on the top. 60kg or 30kg its a brilliant if hugely expensive trailer.
Very smart design 👌 but your load changed mid trip, then again. 😇
Thanks for watching - and commenting
Well spotted
Actually we were going to do a Monday , Tuesday , Wednesday etc - showing the different configurations / loads
But we ran out of time! (Sorry)
I just purchased a 2020 Brompton electric here in the US. I was real excited about this trailer until I read in my bike manual, pg 7, that I would void my Brompton warranty using a trailer. Is that the same for a non electric?
Can u carry another brompton on this travoy? If can should be interesting
strapped high enough to clear the wheels.
I do this when delivering bikes that I have worked on
@@whazzat8015 i cant imagine how much high needed and to strap. What about the balancing while cycle carrying brompton on travoy.
@@ZzulfadliNasir You just need to have it clear the wheels , as it is wider than the frame and will rub. A box below it helps, but it can be strapped tight enough not to shift.
On a big wheel bike balance has not been a problem and the weight is close to the frame. On a bike where the trailer is tippy (my20" bikes) , I wouldn't put anything of value. I found the Travoy VERY tippy on the Dahon.
I had the same question. I always have a dilemma when inviting bikeless friend to ride with me or to pick up my teenage daughter from school.
Thanks for answering that - we haven’t gone this far
The joints look all very rigid will it fracture over time? Why isn’t there any built in shock absorption?
Has a fair amount of frame flex you can see if you mount a goPro rearward
Cool , how much weight can it take
Lo veo aparatoso y si se carga demasiado hará que flexe la tija del sillín haciendo peligrar la resistencia del cuadro.
Do you have any recommendations for a dog trailer in a similar design to this?
Like a handtruck it's good for large boxes but not that practical for groceries which is what people would use this for 95% of the time. If the Travoy somehow marries a folding shopping cart and has a baby then Burley would REALLY have a winner on it's hands. Are you listening Burley?
As with most other Brompton accessories, do you have to remortgage your house to buy this?...how much does it retail for?
Pretty much. £295!
Reminds me of Kindergarten.
We hope you have pleasant memories of kindergarten :-)
Here's another rl Burley story th-cam.com/video/BE3GDurA15Y/w-d-xo.html
где купить? в Россию, Москва есть доставка?:)
How can I get one?
The capacity is 27 kg = 60 lbs not 40 kg
www.burley.com/product/peopleforbikes-travoy/
Brompton owners manual 2019. Page 23 under the heading WARNING !
First paragraph last sentence." The bike and rack are not designed to pull
a trailer." ???
Seat post stress
The holding strap falls off the load in seconds, then we see a different load being carried.
Thanks for watching - and paying such close attention
Yes - we improved over time
We originally intended a montage of 2 weeks - showing each days load - but in the end just wanted to share / upload
I am not getting notifications from TH-cam.
Nice but pricey.....
But so useful. Thanks for watching
Amazon delivery driver.
Now - there’s a thought!
Thanks for watching
ATTENTION PLEASE!!! You made a mistake regarding the load a Travoy can carry. just bought a BURLEY TRAVOY 2020, from a dealer in Germany, and I unpacked it this morning, I just read the instructions. In the video you state that that its maximum weight is 40 kg on the Bottom sektion, and 20 kg on the top sektion. But i´ll bet you ment 40 lbs and 20 lbs (18 kg and 9 kg) A total load of 27 kg (or 60 lbs or pounds) . Am I right ? ;-) Dan in Denmark.
dear you can afford Brompton bike. could u please invest in a neck mic so we can hear you loudly and clearly?
Thanks for watching and the feedback
We were using a Rode wireless neck mike - couldn’t you hear Ok?
What device were you using ?
brilliantbikes MacBook Pro.... not sure if my computer is bad? Anyway your content is very useful, thank you 👍🏼
@@Fleed907 MacBook here too. The Rode mike works really well and is much better than the earlier videos.
In a previous video I mistook it for a dosimeter and thought our wonderful presenter was moonlighting between jobs at a Nuclear Power Station and Bike Shop :-)
Brompton owners manual Page 23 Under WARNING ! The bike and rack are
not designed to pull a trailer. ???
You may have just voided the warranty on your Brompton on TH-cam
I own an H6R and a 3 yr old Travoy.
I bought the Travoy for my touring bike but just for groceries not touring
If you take the seat post out you will find an unusual plastic insert that
requires a rather expensive looking ream to repair.
this is an infomercial not a review
“Smal” weels are not my thing
Every hole in the road is a collision like the a atom bom like Hiroshima hitting my as ,..
What to fly over the road
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