from my experience, this plane has poor turn rate, poor energy retention, poor engine performance, but has mighty cannons, every headon is a guaranteed kill
The problem is because The avia s 199 uses The heinkel 111 engine,he was a tchecoslovaquian licenciated prodution aircraft and the fabric was out of deimler benz 605 at the end of the war and they Just smached the jumo engine on their me 109 k4
@@yoamal1187 Very interesting subject. I researched it a little bit and supposedly they where first built using G6 and G14 airframes. However the tail section of the one we have in WT is closer in size to the G10s upgraded tail(Same airframe as the K4). Assuming that WT used a real example to model the plane It's possible that S199s where built using various 109 G airframes left over in Czechoslovakia after the war including the G6/10 and 14
@@yoamal1187 To go even deeper, to my understanding the G6 was a temporary production with a new engine meant to be a test bed for improvements over the earlier G models but without all the finishing touches and necessary upgrades to make it worth full production. Since the S199 was made after the end of the war after the design improvements of the G6 where consolidated into the full production G10/14 it's more likely that it's either a G10 or G14 airframe. In other words even heavier. Slightly lighter if it's the G10 airframe.
Almost every single one of these kills is from a defensive situation going into a reversal, so judging by that I'm honna conclude it's characteristics are utter dogshit and it cannot normally achieve an offensive position.
It can, it climbs okay. It's just that maintaining a good position is almost impossible with this planes power and lack of energy retention. You'll end up on deck no matter what you do
@@smigoltime it is confirmed that the S-99 (BF 109G-6(?)) Had the original engine.Then Indeed what the lad said happened and they lost their remaining DB 605 engines , so they strapped he 111s engines!
@@smigoltime Ye, right post war the DB-605 engine warehouse caught fire after a nearby wehrwolf (basically german saboteurs) munitions warehouse exploded. A conclusion was never posted, but general Svoboda blamed the Wehrwolf group, so that's about it.
love how you're stalled out at 1000 meters at basically every kill. this sums up this plane's experience also pretty ironic how israel's first plane is german
Unpopular opinion - I actually like the S-199. (I hear people asking why I like pain, but I play War Thunder so it's a bit of a mute point). The reason I like the S-199 is that I do not expect to do well in it, so when I do do well, it's an achievement. Getting an ace in an Fw-190A1 is fairly easy if your friendlies don't wipe the enemy out. Surviving the match in the S-199 whilst getting a kill is difficult, getting an ace is very challenging, so it feels rewarding. It's War Thunder hard mode.
I know it's a terrible plane, but it is one of my favourite planes to play. The guns are great (easy to aim and hard-hitting) and it flies quite well at really low speeds. You don't feel any pressure to perform well either, because no one is expecting you to.
The fact that you have a dogshit engine and you need to bring out the gun pods to have a useful armament (which the normal 109s already struggle with when you bring them) is just pain
I used it to grind a bit and even use it over the P-51 sometimes. Its engine isnt good but it has good guns, good menuverability and good energy retention while still being durable. Its mot a bad plane, its just not great and I think thats why people hate it, they are used to 109's being better than most of what they see at their BR.
@@smigoltime yeah problem is it's a brick, tried it out myself some time ago and had to admit that it's really bad, only the guns are good, but it dfoesnt matter if you cant put them on target xD
? The J22s are a bit heavy and underpowered, yes, but they really aren't as terrible as this one. Seeing the other low tier Swedish stuff, they're not even that bad.
The S-199 is not that impressive until you get it spaded. Yeah the engine sucks but it still has good guns with a workable turn. I tried playing the Israeli Air tree but it dawned on me that most of the grind was probably gonna be similar to grinding the mods for the s-199 so I gave up after getting the P-51D and the B17G
Some historical lore: Avia S-199 Is basically Bf-109K-4 with improved construction czechoslovakians made. At that time the DB-605DC storage was destroyed by fire so they had to equip it with much weaker and heavier Jumo 211F bomber engine with heavy propeller, therefore the gyroscopical efect of the prop was so big that even full contra aileron couldn't stop it from rolling. Great potential of an airframe yet completely eradicated by inappropriate engine selection
What if they made this a biplane, then it would turn better. And put rockets underneath it. and then put it to 1.0. Oh wait already exists, that's the swordfish
It hits like a truck and flies like one too. I think the biggest downside is that extra fuel tank that's added in the tail section with an underpowered engine meant for light airframes
Me: "This plane fucking sucks" Also me: Has a 4:1 K/D with it No but seriously, this plane sucks. I'd rather fly French low tier planes than this thing. Spaded it, got the P-51D in the tree, and will probably never touch it again lol.
NOTE: the plane is only recommended to player with over 1000h playtime everyone under this playtime is gana break his pc at worst, seriously the only purpose of the s-199 is to get the israeli B-17!
i prefferred flying the Sakeen over the P-51D . . . i must say that i resorted to using Manual Engine Control to not turn my engine pistons into rockets though the cooling is both inefficient by default and rather great when on MEC for some reason
Smigol: The S-199 isn't really all that bad guys
Also Smigol: 10x Kill Streak with the Swordfish at 11.3
It is certainly not great but with enough skill you can make it work.
@@HrothgarHeavenlight anything can work if you know how to.
Just dive on ppl
your actually breaking records. the top kill amount in it was 0 kills, but now i guess its 1 kill
My friend got 7 fucking kills doing full commit headons, the dude believed
I got 5kills in it once
6 kills on that shit
1x7 kills, 2x 6 kills, 3x 5 kills. I guess.
@@smigoltime how many actors you paid? and where can i apply?
You could give Smigol a Wellington and he would still get 5 kill matches through dogfights
wellington ace 💀💀
@@personalinfo201 true but in game it's pretty useless
it is very good I get 3+ kills per match with it if I go for dogfighting
@@mrcochrangaming5989 That's what the War Thunder content creator Oxide did a couple of years ago.
@@martijn9568 .303 is all you need
from my experience, this plane has poor turn rate, poor energy retention, poor engine performance, but has mighty cannons, every headon is a guaranteed kill
Abd allows you to blast hava nagila at full volume,second place is either to usa or germany
The problem is because The avia s 199 uses The heinkel 111 engine,he was a tchecoslovaquian licenciated prodution aircraft and the fabric was out of deimler benz 605 at the end of the war and they Just smached the jumo engine on their me 109 k4
Welcome to every American plane lol
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@@captainobvious8662 Almost every American prop at T3 and up has good engine performance, good speed, the bets high alt performance, etc… Wyem.
For people who think this plane is actually good - the S199 is a 109 G14 airframe coupled with an engine that produces less HP then the 109 E4
I think they were G-6 airframes
@@yoamal1187 and I think they were G-10 XD but idk. Engine power is comparable to Bf109 B-1
@@yoamal1187 Very interesting subject. I researched it a little bit and supposedly they where first built using G6 and G14 airframes. However the tail section of the one we have in WT is closer in size to the G10s upgraded tail(Same airframe as the K4). Assuming that WT used a real example to model the plane It's possible that S199s where built using various 109 G airframes left over in Czechoslovakia after the war including the G6/10 and 14
@@yoamal1187 To go even deeper, to my understanding the G6 was a temporary production with a new engine meant to be a test bed for improvements over the earlier G models but without all the finishing touches and necessary upgrades to make it worth full production. Since the S199 was made after the end of the war after the design improvements of the G6 where consolidated into the full production G10/14 it's more likely that it's either a G10 or G14 airframe. In other words even heavier. Slightly lighter if it's the G10 airframe.
the Czech used all airframes they could find. the one in the game is based on a G10 airframe.
Almost every single one of these kills is from a defensive situation going into a reversal, so judging by that I'm honna conclude it's characteristics are utter dogshit and it cannot normally achieve an offensive position.
It can, it climbs okay. It's just that maintaining a good position is almost impossible with this planes power and lack of energy retention.
You'll end up on deck no matter what you do
@@smigoltime skill issue?
@@smigoltime have you tried side climbing?
@@Lenevor dude really said skill issue to smigol 💀
I mean yeah it's flying a 109 with 60% throttle pretty much... and more heavy too.
without the nose 20mm
Viral: School boy loses grip...
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smigol, you gotta accept that you are good at the game, and im pretty sure if i gave you a pe8 you would dogfight people, oh wait you did that
I dogfight with everything, it's just the only thing fun about air battles for me
@@smigoltime what Just proves the point of the avia s 199 being dog shit,you the guy Who can get 5 kills on polikarpov po 2 said that
@@smigoltime go kfir plz
@@smigoltime
Ju 87 G gameplay? *_*
@@AstroFisicoUFMG did a whole video about Ju-87 Gs
2:42 Dude I HATE it when that happens, the amount of times I died like that in my P-63 is astonishing
Smigol could fly literal hot dog shit and make it look like a capable fighter
I remember some dude in ground RB defending the sky shooting all enemy planes with S-199. What a hero
It’s not that bad, I’m just bad.
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@@Certified_Dude sarcasm
@@williewilson2250 I’m stupid
@@Certified_Dude lol
smigol: "is not actually that bad"
narrator: "it was THAT bad"
The plane literally cant land without wheels, it glitches through the floor and insta kills you
If smigol can’t make it fly well, that means it’s beyond saving
Just for the record, we didn't want the plane that way, but the fucking daimler benz engine warehouse caught fire lmao
Is it actually true ? XD
@@smigoltime it is confirmed that the S-99 (BF 109G-6(?)) Had the original engine.Then Indeed what the lad said happened and they lost their remaining DB 605 engines , so they strapped he 111s engines!
@@ELITE-xn3sh jesus christ Avia why... they built such nice planes pre war
@@smigoltime they couldnt manufacture them engines after the war , otherwise we would have a good 109G
@@smigoltime Ye, right post war the DB-605 engine warehouse caught fire after a nearby wehrwolf (basically german saboteurs) munitions warehouse exploded. A conclusion was never posted, but general Svoboda blamed the Wehrwolf group, so that's about it.
love how you're stalled out at 1000 meters at basically every kill. this sums up this plane's experience
also pretty ironic how israel's first plane is german
That's not an example of irony lol
They said it's bad, so it gets 3.0 br change
and stomp biplanes
Dauntless 2.0 moment
Unpopular opinion - I actually like the S-199. (I hear people asking why I like pain, but I play War Thunder so it's a bit of a mute point).
The reason I like the S-199 is that I do not expect to do well in it, so when I do do well, it's an achievement. Getting an ace in an Fw-190A1 is fairly easy if your friendlies don't wipe the enemy out. Surviving the match in the S-199 whilst getting a kill is difficult, getting an ace is very challenging, so it feels rewarding. It's War Thunder hard mode.
Title/Thumbnail: Oh you think this plane is dogshit? Watch this.
Comments: This plane is dogshit
It is dogshit. But it has guns, so it can always get a kill :P
" Its not the plane its the pilot" on a whole new level.
thats like saying "I got 5 kills with the b-17" ITS A GREAT fighter
Well nothing is trash as long as Smigol is flying it.
Defyn: Plane is hot garbage.
Smigol: and I took that personally.
Shmeegul time can you cancel the ju288 spam with the f4u4b or demonstrate the flight performance of the f4u-4 under the 1c
single-handedly raised the average kills in it
I know it's a terrible plane, but it is one of my favourite planes to play. The guns are great (easy to aim and hard-hitting) and it flies quite well at really low speeds. You don't feel any pressure to perform well either, because no one is expecting you to.
Remember lads this guy literally fucks up planes with the swordfish Rockets the 199 isn't good this guy is a fucking god
Sure it is bud, but whatever plane you fly needs to be bumped up a br or two.
OMG IS THAT THE FAMOUS PERSON WHO SAID P51 GAMEPLAY?
@@indorexyggdood5343 I sure am indeed a person who has said p-51 d-30 gameplay.
My brother in P-51 D-30, Smigol kills 10.0 jets with a Japanese biplane. It's not only one BR
"It's not about the plane, it's about the pilot" sure is true here lmao
With the music it just slap, gave me a smile (edit: a grin).
your videos gave me hope about balace sometimes.
The fact that you have a dogshit engine and you need to bring out the gun pods to have a useful armament (which the normal 109s already struggle with when you bring them) is just pain
In the hands of a capable pilot, everything that flies is effective, S-199 is no exclusion.
Except those Yak-15s
I quite liked the S-199, and then I got my spitfire and completely abandoned it
"Its not the plane its the pilot"
-Top Gun:Maverick
POV every hacker be like
Dogfights in B-17 when ?
"Its not the plane, Its the pilot sir"
I used it to grind a bit and even use it over the P-51 sometimes. Its engine isnt good but it has good guns, good menuverability and good energy retention while still being durable. Its mot a bad plane, its just not great and I think thats why people hate it, they are used to 109's being better than most of what they see at their BR.
I would highly disagree about the maneuverability part. I'm pretty sure a B-29 would be an even opponent for this in a duel
i think you're giving the S-199 too much credit smigol
@@smigoltime yeah problem is it's a brick, tried it out myself some time ago and had to admit that it's really bad, only the guns are good, but it dfoesnt matter if you cant put them on target xD
@@smigoltime b-29 dogfight against tu-4 when ?
I highly disagree with both the good maneuverability and energy retention, it turns once and it cannot turn again, it's engine is horrible
LOL Smigol flying an armed brick would still kick ass.
its bad, youre just good
It's not the plane. It's the pilot - Top Gun
I mean... They strapped a bomber engine onto a fighter. What do you expect?
the plane is probably still bad, you're just simply better
Funnily enough this is one of the only props I have a good K/D in.
Aye I had a 10:1 for a while in it, now dropped to 7:1 :(
@@smigoltime a good K/D for me is closer to 1.2/1 lol
This plane is literally the Israelian version of the j22a/b
Why do you hate on J22b? It's good plane
@@nieznajomy7 it's not
@@TheLazyKat He must really like headons
? The J22s are a bit heavy and underpowered, yes, but they really aren't as terrible as this one. Seeing the other low tier Swedish stuff, they're not even that bad.
@@nieznajomy7i dont hate it
I shouldve specified that the j22 and s199 are kinda the same
Poor engine but insane guns
'It's not the plane, Mav, it's the pilot.'
I laughed at the reddit posts, then i started a match and my engine overheated while turned off lol
The BF-109 C(had)
The S-199 is not that impressive until you get it spaded. Yeah the engine sucks but it still has good guns with a workable turn. I tried playing the Israeli Air tree but it dawned on me that most of the grind was probably gonna be similar to grinding the mods for the s-199 so I gave up after getting the P-51D and the B17G
The clipped wing spit did good work for me
@@0GTXR till they nerfed the sl gain on it
Some historical lore: Avia S-199 Is basically Bf-109K-4 with improved construction czechoslovakians made. At that time the DB-605DC storage was destroyed by fire so they had to equip it with much weaker and heavier Jumo 211F bomber engine with heavy propeller, therefore the gyroscopical efect of the prop was so big that even full contra aileron couldn't stop it from rolling. Great potential of an airframe yet completely eradicated by inappropriate engine selection
Not k4. Either G6 or G10 airframe
War Thunder players have a skill issue?
Who would've thought
Ah, a man of culture I see
Smigol is so good he could probably dogfight using a tank with wings
It’s usable when spaded but generally a chore
The only bad this thing had is the fact this was put in a fantasy tech tree, for a real plane..
I saw all I needed to.
He got hit.
Dude does not even get hit while doing no HUD only missiles challenges in a Swirdfish against jets.
What if they made this a biplane, then it would turn better. And put rockets underneath it. and then put it to 1.0. Oh wait already exists, that's the swordfish
It hits like a truck and flies like one too. I think the biggest downside is that extra fuel tank that's added in the tail section with an underpowered engine meant for light airframes
Sam polatałem tą cegłą, jedyne co mi się spodobało to był kamuflaż policji Czechosłowacji, nawet Wyvern z bombami mi się lepiej latało niż tym XD
The plane IS bad, but Smigol is GOD!
Don't tell Defyn you said that.
i have put all of my ammo into some dude who was afk and all i got was a crit and he landed, i will never touch it ever again
The embodiment of glass cannon
2:09 unlucky
if something like P39N and Fw 190 A-1 is allowed to be 3.0, then why is this thing 3.3?
Why is XP-50 4.0 when it could dominate the sky even at 6.0
Seeing as how the best thing about this plane is it’s guns I’d say it’s better fitted as a bomber hunter than anything
Title of the video should be the same song gets more scuffed the longer I play this plane
smigol has just been given mg151 ofc he will do well
The Allied Arab Armies just had skill issues.
I'm suffering war thunder. help
Nothing is bad if YOU fly it...
So it’s a weird bird, I think it’s a bf109g, judging by the bumps in the wings and the weird cut up cowling. But has the engines of the HE-111s
Any plane can be deadly in the right hands!
In a 1v1 it's balls, but in a 12v12 it's ballin
Literally the best plane in war thunder. Awesome fighter, awesome CAS plane for grb. You get 4 bombs! Not 1 but 4!
The ultimate chad
Pilot made of paper mache.
When u're smigol nothing is that bad
Front of the fuselage looks like it lost foreskin.
Love the choice of music smigs
Its not the plane, it’s the pilot
This plane is the definition of skill issue
When i was still a mid tier player, the b-25 was my favorite fighter.
In almost the entire video the enemy does not shoot ☠️
Which type of controls you using?? Realistic or point aim??
mouse aim I guess
lmao the music i love you dude
What's wierd is my WR in it is like 45%, but I actually enjoyed playing. *shrugs*
yes, that’s because there’s you behind the controls
2:11 B7A OP !
I actually really liked this plane from the jump, never fully understood the complaints because it functions on par with most early 109s
Me: "This plane fucking sucks"
Also me: Has a 4:1 K/D with it
No but seriously, this plane sucks. I'd rather fly French low tier planes than this thing. Spaded it, got the P-51D in the tree, and will probably never touch it again lol.
Only trained IDF pilots can fly this plane
A friend of mine tried to play this plane
Lets say ye was extremely happy when he finally unlocked the next one
I still have ptsd from flying the s199 whenever I play Israel
ITS NOT THE AIRCRAFT ITS HOW U USE IT! love the vids
NOTE: the plane is only recommended to player with over 1000h playtime everyone
under this playtime is gana break his pc at worst, seriously the only purpose of the s-199 is to get the israeli B-17!
Damn, they don't even remove 7mm's from model while equiped with MG151? Beside fact, that variant with 7mm (and planned WGr.15) never was exported.
Smigol mógłby latać cegłą bez skrzydeł i robiłby fragi xD
i prefferred flying the Sakeen over the P-51D . . .
i must say that i resorted to using Manual Engine Control to not turn my engine pistons into rockets though
the cooling is both inefficient by default and rather great when on MEC for some reason
Well, the same could be said about the pilot