Sekhie Reacts to Fate: Abigail Williams

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  • @МаксимПасічник-е6щ
    @МаксимПасічник-е6щ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The first rule of Orbs Club is: you do not talk about how that works with the orbs. The second rule of Orbs Club is: you DO NOT talk how that works with the orbs. Аlso, сongrats with the first Foreigner.

  • @miguelyanezlorenzo5037
    @miguelyanezlorenzo5037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    A fun fact about summer version's second art: she carries a ring-shaped rock where the floaties are in her third art. This is because of one of the old-timey methods to see if someone was a witch: tying them, sometimes to rocks, and throwing them into water to see if they would float. Abby actually is a witch, the design kinda implies that, since she would float, she can use the rock as an inflatable ring.

    • @Z-000R0
      @Z-000R0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      that a moronic way to test thing
      why would people float with a heavy weight dragging them down

    • @miguelyanezlorenzo5037
      @miguelyanezlorenzo5037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Z-000R0 Supposedly, since witches rejected the right of baptism, water would "reject" them and that force would make them float. Dumb superstition to believe, but they didn't have scientific knowledge about this stuff and even today we have people who believe that the Earth is flat.

  • @ghostshrimp5006
    @ghostshrimp5006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Little known fact about lovecraft: he married a Jewish woman later in life who unfortunately died a few years later due to illness, and near he’s dead bed he talked he’s regrets about he’s closed minded view on things etc.
    That’s the thing that people tend to forget about him, he was someone who is mentally unwell and needed help due to family trauma and unfortunate circumstances of the times so i appreciate you guys not dropping everything for some long winded speech about which ever side your on, you have a good laugh about it and you move on like rational people.
    I apologize if that was a big ranty, appreciate you guys keep up the good work

    • @t.h.e.animeclub
      @t.h.e.animeclub  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I actually did know that! To be fair, I didn't want to go off on a whole as rant about him because it felt too off topic, but I definitely don't approach him from a right or wrong standpoint, more that he was a deeply disturbed man whose many fears and issue manifested often in his writing, and actually created WONDERFUL horror in my opinion. There are certainly some aspects of him that I just laugh at and move on, and some we could not mention in a video XD, but I think a lot of people rag on him for racism without considering just how disturbed he was and how much it wasn't really a conscious decision of malice in my opinion.

    • @ghostshrimp5006
      @ghostshrimp5006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@t.h.e.animeclub I’m striving to be a self taught anthropologist so it just grinds my beers whenever I see people talk about a subject they clearly haven’t looked much into which is why I appreciate you guys who look into every nook and cranny on the topic

    • @t.h.e.animeclub
      @t.h.e.animeclub  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hehe, I'm currently doing a double major bachelors in Anthro and History, so that's amazing, I love hearting from other people studying similar topics! Honestly, I'm trying to be better too, I know a few times I've rested too much on what I remembered rather than double checking.

  • @edgarallenpo8330
    @edgarallenpo8330 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I noticed abi's 3rd form is actually... uh... she is floating, her legs seem to be dangling. Implying she is actually hanging from something unseen.

  • @miguelnavera6166
    @miguelnavera6166 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    if kagetora is next there is a very interesting theory which about their gender that you guys should definitely look into.
    Also about why there are TTRPG references with Abby is mainly because the most popular ( at least most well-known) TTRPG in Japan is Call of Cthulhu. you can see this in a lot of TTRPG systems in Japan really loving psychological horror and having a sanity system ( though to be fair I only know 2 others so grain of salt).

  • @concern5810
    @concern5810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can't believe there is no pancake song, there was also her VA singing it live on an announcement stream in jp

  • @paragon390
    @paragon390 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The NP’s on Na server have translated dialogue during the Servant’s np. It might help show more to the character if you should them specific videos that have them. The official USA Aniplex youtube have servant np with translation whenever a servant is related on the NA server.
    I find this important here cuz Abigail does say lovecraft language during the np (idk what to call it, but the voiceactor actually managed to say it). Abigail is not the only one to speak in this way, as there are other foreigner servants or servants connected to outer gods that say things in that way.

  • @dettlaffvandereretein4251
    @dettlaffvandereretein4251 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Kinda wished you showed Abby singing happy birthday and pancake song.

  • @rotciv557
    @rotciv557 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Foreigner class is filled to the brim with some real interesting characters, though I'd say that of all the Lovecraft inspired ones, Abigail is definitely the peak in terms of character and story implementation. They got it pretty damn right with the first one.
    Currently excited to see which of them you'll end up reacting to next out of the lot, Van Gogh is a big one since I think that, in spite of the problems their story and character went through, I'd say they are definitely the second most interesting of the Lovecraftian-based Foreigners in the game (behind Abby), so seeing how Sekhie deals with them would be amusing. There's also the Cthulu-patroned one that debuted immediately after Abby did, their character design is something to marvel at and the way they interact with Cthulu is great.
    Out of all of them though, the one I'm most interested in seeing pop up in a video here is a certain space-faring voy, due to how conceptually and thematically beautiful Type-MOON managed to make them in both their debut series as well as in FGO.
    It's funny how, within the "Lovecraft referencea galore!" Servant Class, the character I'm most excited to see analyzed is the one who is both completely separate from Lovecraftian mythos as well as the only one in the class who's thematic stance on humanity is squarely on the "Humanity Fuck Yeah!" Side of the scale as opposed to the grimdark themes of most other Foreigners...

  • @dettlaffvandereretein4251
    @dettlaffvandereretein4251 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ah yes finally Foreigners, Van Gogh is a whole other mess they’re a mix of more than just lovecraft.

  • @akunent
    @akunent ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Traditionally, Yog-Sothoth (Abigail) and Azathoth (Unknown) are considered significantly more powerful than the other outer gods, with some authors arguing that Yog-Sothoth single-handedly prevents everyone else from entering the universe and doing whatever they want . Functionally, Yog-Sothoth is also considered a god and personification of space-time, present at all times and everywhere. “Past, present, future, in Yog-Sothoth everything is one. Remember that the Abby you fought in Salem has not yet gained full power, and the Abby you have in your Chaldea has been brutally nerfed because the summoning system does not take full advantage of the creature, that she is obsessed with can interpret.
    Just look around for Yogh Sothoth.

  • @kamirikuo8945
    @kamirikuo8945 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Hey fun fact Abby is one of the few servants who doesn't have the weak to enuma elish

  • @frostshard8825
    @frostshard8825 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the reason for the stats is because the stat sheet uses the call of Cthulhu system. they made a Cthulhu joke by reference of the game call of Cthulhu, very clever

  • @ssj5gogeta1310
    @ssj5gogeta1310 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    43:43 I think the cats trying to kill each other is something else. They are named Nosh and Luthar. Nosh (the black cat) is assumed to reference Cykranosh, in other words planet Saturn, which in Dreamlands is home to a race of monstrous cats that are enemies of Earth's cats, who in turn have an outpost on Dark Side of the Moon to watch out for them. Luthar (the gray one) is most likely a reference to Ulthar, a village in Earth's Dreamlands where cats are very revered, and not without reason. If you hurt a cat there, cats eat you. So yeah, I think Abby just has an Earth cat and a Saturn cat, who lore-wise don't like each other.
    1:00:08 I'm not sure if I am remembering correctly, but the way I understood it was this: Absalom and Lavinia Whateleys were members of an unnamed mage family, whose magecraft was very conductive for Raum's goals, and thus their spirits were summoned and manifested to play the part of a Whateley family. So not really "people that inspired the fictional Whateleys in Lovecraft's writing", but more "people that were most similar in form and function to fictional Whateleys in Lovecraft's writing". Sort of the same situation as Sasaki Kojirou in "Fate/stay night".
    Qliphoth comes from Kabbalah. It (or maybe they, I believe it's actually a plural) is the evil opposite of Sefirot. I don't know enough to highlight the important parts, so I'll leave it at that.
    Hints:
    I can't find hint number 2, but I'll also say Nagao Kagetora (aka Uesugi Kenshin)... Hold on, I just noticed the plush tiger. Is that a bonus hint, referencing how Kenshin was born in Tiger year, had "tora" ("tiger") in most of his names, and was known as "Tiger of Echigo" among other things?

  • @kofumi2970
    @kofumi2970 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    1:09:30 Honestly, i really wanna see Sekhie react to rollercoaster named Kiara,i guess it will be best if she gonna be at the same episode with Hans.

    • @Alexzander1989
      @Alexzander1989 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would probably be best, but I don’t think any of us are ready for the mind fuckery that is Kiara 😅

    • @eclipsewaves
      @eclipsewaves 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Alexzander1989 Would be pretty crazy if there's a Kama follow-up lmao

    • @Raiden29o9
      @Raiden29o9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed, Kiara is one of my favorite OC servants and just watching people react to the Can of Tentacles that is Kiara is just entertaining

  • @manuelgardete6187
    @manuelgardete6187 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    So the next one is nagao kagetora. Wich is nice since a new gudaguda is coming to NA in a month. I reccomend watching her expressions, the all smiles girl deserves it.
    Just to put more here. Abby and the lovecraftian servants actually have spoken lines in that messy and mysterious language. If you check again normal abby's noble phantasm on the witch ascension her first lines are not japanese, i think there may be the NA subtitles on youtube, but just know it wont make any sense haha.

  • @Azzaciel
    @Azzaciel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fun fact most people miss(I did too for years):
    The Foreigner Class card...Resembles Sherlock quite a bit.

  • @jenskosch8553
    @jenskosch8553 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    More details on Sut-Typhon and Yog-Sothoth: Sut-Typhon in that combination is an entity first mentioned by occultist Aleister Crowley (Thelema ...). In name harkens back to the Greek Typhon, but also has other aspects. Kenneth Grant made the Yog-Sothtoth connection to Sut-Typhon in "The Magical Revival" in 1972. Interestingly he made claims that Lovecraft had created an actual Mythos by channeling if not entities then at least universal principles in a dream-state and he equated Yog-Sothtoh with Sut-Typhon (I also love Crowley's writing has been described as notorious for being opaque with "verbal and conceptual labyrinths" - a description that could fit Nasu just as well.)
    [I am re-posting this comment because I am moving my account away from a university owned account and don't want to lose the comments when switching.]

  • @1993espada
    @1993espada 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ohh, no happy birthday song from Abby or her Kuroneko Pankake song ... xD

  • @ssj5gogeta1310
    @ssj5gogeta1310 ปีที่แล้ว

    57:55 I recently went on a binge of searching for what FGO's Salem chapter referenced, and I think the author of this chapter primarily used Chaosium's "Call of Cthulhu" game's lore. In FGO, Lavinia's father (who is brought up in literally 2 lines) is named Noah, which is also the name Old Man Whateley is given in Keith Herber's "Return to Dunwich" book, intended for the aforementioned game. Absalom is also given in this book, but not as Lavinia's grandfather, but as a more distant ancestor. He lived in Salem until 1692, when he and other like-minded people, who realized what was coming soon, left Salem and founded Dunwich.
    There's a chance those names were given in some earlier source, but if that's case I didn't find it. Besides, "Call of Cthulhu" game is apparently really popular in Japan, so I feel that it's a safe bet that it was used as a reference.

  • @casteanpreswyn7528
    @casteanpreswyn7528 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Abby is, in the story, probably my favorite servant. So much so that I bought the adorable figure of Abby and Lavinia actually having fun at an insane markup. Mainly cause I wanted to be able to see Abby happy at least once. Lol
    Edit:not so fun, the first "foreigner" class servant of a Japanese game was a blue eyed, blonde haired white girl. Lol

  • @manograf3231
    @manograf3231 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bit late to the party, but an interesting fact. While Abby sprite is 2D, the tentacles are 3D. That actually used to be the way sprites of extra-dimesional/terrestrial are signified in game.
    Altrough it isn't that way anymore.

  • @near1999
    @near1999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still can't wait for Richard the lionheart

  • @noneedformaidens38
    @noneedformaidens38 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aight, I'm guessing we're Kagetora. On your witch trial question, at least where I'm from we don't really get taught about that. It starts from the basics like the ancient civilisations and similar stuff. The latter grades basically devoted history to the Weimar Republik, WW1 and WW2 and the social environments at the time and stuff closely related to that.
    Btw I really hope I don't sound rude or anything like that, but have you thought about looking at translations for the NP chants? Besides being cool they do have references to their legends, that I think would be cool to look at.

    • @t.h.e.animeclub
      @t.h.e.animeclub  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      hmmmm, I'll mention the chants thing to NikNak!
      Also, awesome, I admit I'm very curious about exactly what history eras people learn the most in other places. Like, at least where I am we don't really spend much time on Pre-revolutionary war America. Ironically ancient civs are basically paid lip service in low grades so you don't learn much other than the bare basics, but focus a ton on more modern history (which is fair) and junior year is always specifically US History, but it really focuses on Post revolution and the 20th century.

  • @t.h.e.animeclub
    @t.h.e.animeclub  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Congrats to everyone for guessing Abbi XD, we need to make the hints harder!
    -135V, VitalZenny14, Kielian, Raiden29o9, Guillaume Dewaele, Lowes, Jens Kosch, Daifurii otaku, Pedro Antonieto Teixeira Marques, Manuel Gardete, Blackjacket501, Furas, RaidKing, ssj5gogeta1310, rotciv557, Kage No Mikoto,
    As always hints for the next servant in the video!

  • @Raiden29o9
    @Raiden29o9 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ya.. just from the hints i have seen i am going with Nagao Kagetora
    And ya... just seeing all this years new JP summer servants made me laugh and feel bad just thinking about how almost all of them added more work on to videos that you have mentioned your doing

  • @whyte4315
    @whyte4315 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ABBY-CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

  • @APrinnyDood
    @APrinnyDood 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    funny you compare her to the norns. A lot of recent servants got that vibe going on. You'll have to get a certain faceless voice to showoff combat more often cuz I set the game to give me random ascension levels on certain servants cuz the difference is mostly shown in combat animations/voice lines & my room convos😆

  • @pedroantonietoteixeiramarq7841
    @pedroantonietoteixeiramarq7841 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Given the hint at the end, I gonna guess nagao kagetora, but I found the hint 3, but don't know if it applys to her... or him, actually

  • @driftwooddex9532
    @driftwooddex9532 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Foreigners can get a little wacky.
    Next servant Nagao Kagatora maybe?

  • @NoxarBoi
    @NoxarBoi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Guess next time is Uesugi Kenshin/Nagao Kagetora

    • @NoxarBoi
      @NoxarBoi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Spoilers in regards to Hint 1:
      Because I was bored: going by Hints 1 & 3 alone, the ones that (technically) fit are Mori Ranmaru, Katou Danzo, Miyamoto Musashi(though he lived for 30 years after); and if you count the time period in general: Francis Drake and Leonardo da Vinci. Excluding ones already covered.

  • @greendax8750
    @greendax8750 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are you guys ever gonna revisit servants that got new variants like summer skadi or summer wu zetian?

    • @t.h.e.animeclub
      @t.h.e.animeclub  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, I've mentioned it a few times in the comments on previous videos, but yes, we have a big update video coming early next year to cover not only new variants but the NPs and CEs I missed from the videos before we started them! and It's going to be a yearly thing going forward hopefully!

  • @schlafenkirsche
    @schlafenkirsche 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is completely unrelated to Abby & the video, also Tsukihime spoilers ahead
    So in the video you two mentioned “Being in a dream so sweet you don’t realize you’re dying on the outside” and while this is completely unrelated to the topic of the video, it reminded me ALOT of one of the plotlines in the Tsukihime series (one of Nasu’s other works) in one of the series’ works let’s say, one of the main characters of Tsukihime is in a dream induced by a succubus and it’s a very happy world where everyone who died in the original Tsuki is alive and the main character is still living their normal life from before the events of Tsuki, but it’s a dream, and the main character is in a coma in the real world, and the story is about them slowly coming to the realization that everything’s a fabrication as the world starts to crumble around them, and they have to confront their “inner demons”

  • @kamirikuo8945
    @kamirikuo8945 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My guess is Nagao Kagetora

  • @straymerodach4713
    @straymerodach4713 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i guess Nagao Kagetora is next

  • @tipoima
    @tipoima 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Frankly, I don't believe Abby's NP's tentacles are looking that janky on purpose. Just look at trees in Ivan's NP, or arms in Summer BB's recent NP update - just because they can make good looking animations, doesn't mean all of them are winners.

  • @NoxarBoi
    @NoxarBoi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    17:13 Heh, _keyed_

  • @kamirikuo8945
    @kamirikuo8945 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    First