nah it doesn't need nerfing your dmg isn't game breaking and you're clearly sub par at playing caster. plus you're fighting morons so in terms of performance it isn't OP.
Usually mages are high risk in that sense yes, but not in Elden ring. The recovery time after spellcasts is as high as the average melee attack. Sure you can't spam the high channel spells as much as you could a katana r1/l1, but you've also got low cast time spells. Imo Mage isn't very risky. But I still think that it's a balanced class, aside from a few disgusting spells, which most builds have, like dex and their Rob, Mv, & Mh
not really, you can spam tf out of magic to where it doesn't give ppl much time to really do anything, it's carried, some spells out there you can spam that have really good accuracy that you can't fully avoid, you will get hit by it 90% of the time it's being used.
Mages are OP but so are a lot of build if you play em right. I could almost be pretty sure a high dex/arc build using the RoB WA would melt a mage in a matter of seconds.
First off, carina slicer has a running attack. Abuse the hell out of it like you are rollcatching with a halberd. Second off, less mind more vigor, at least 60 at level 120+, lastly, remove stars of ruin. Replace it with collapsing stars. And you’ve got the most based mage build in the game
GG. I would honestly recommend switching to the carrion regal scepter. It's weapons art is surprisingly good and fools people often. The dps boost of lusats vs the fp cost isn't worth it in pvp. You'd get hit way less of you didn't need to potion up.
@@nationofheels you can also afford less mind if you use the regal sceptre - more hp allows you to make some pretty crazy trades with the gavel and etc just bc of how much damage you deal
Can second the Carian Regal scepter. The sheer panic that sets in when the other player realizes they’ve made a grave mistake is wonderful. Its spinning attack deals so much damage and stun locks enemies.
I prefer the carian glintblade staff as it has higher scaling for me fully leveled. With the scepter I get 287, the glintblade staff 298 both S Intelligence scaling. Plus you only need 22 int for glintblade staff. Its also lighter, boosts glintblade sorceries, and you can equip your own ash of war to it.
Honestly as long as carian retaliation exists I’m fine with mage, I think they need to patch the self parry glitch, and then nerf the damage of carian retaliation in general. I’m a fine full str build and carian retaliation is my best friend for mages
needs a lot of strength and faith to wield though, not a popular combination for dex weapon users. and you need to pump up Faith in order for the damage reflection to do a lot of damage itself.
Although it’s a possibility it was someone else, using the same gear/ weapons on PC, I’m fairly certain this guy spams in duels.. oh and pots. (And then disconnects when someone is beating him )
@bruh meme he said “high level mage fighting noobs” I never said anything about skill level idiot. I just mentioned that they are all “ high leveled since matchmaking only pairs within 20 levels up and down
A mage never needs a nerf. What is magic if it isnt the most potent and strongest? Ill stop playin elden ring if they ever take away my strength my power
The magic does look cool. Looks like they went the DS2 route with creativity and utility which is cool. DS3 sorcery was only good for fall damage and running past mobs. Still don't think I'll play with this game though. Not really trying to beat a game twice just to have a good build to play the game 🤣
Sa1loR_JaRRy shidd bro im on my first play through level 350+ aint new gaming plus till i get everything i need which i think i do. I can either be a very op ass mage or i can be a thunder god a dragon lord. I got the talismans boost for sorcery and lightning all that. And pvp is mostly my favorite part about the game. New game plus gets harder and harder every plus. Definitely something to fw
I found it kind of embarrassing his friends were all alone and the guy invokes a specter I found it disrespectful to his friends and like saying they are just pieces but at least he has the honor of fighting fairly, something that the elder ring community doesn't have much
The only thing that needs to be nerfed or dealt with is spamming. Spamming one specific spell or inc. spamming one single weapon art/ash. You run into 3 players that have no skill at all and just constantly spam over and over, unless you run away and hide using concealing veil your going to lose 9/10 times cause your not going to be able to dodge 3 different spams from 3 different angles the whole time...
I been doing 1v1s, 1v2s, and 1v3s all naked , bloodhound step and Keen Uchigatana and Blood Nagakiba. The overall player base is really nooby and spammy. (Simple reads) occasionally you will find a formiddable player though. Alot dont like to rematch though which is the sad part
So whats op here? The always dodgeable spells? The mediocre dmg. It has range and variety yes and thats the selling point for mage pvp. Does it bleed dmg? No.
@@karloangelic lmao have you not seen some strength and or INT builds? It's not the only "oVeRpOwErEd" thing in the game and people need to stop acting like it..
@@Jishuteki a dual wielding occult cross-naginata with seppuku buff active will instableed on a single running powerstance attack, meaning that strength builds with unlimited poise can't do shit in a trade since bleed stuns them, they will always lose since objectively bleed users weapons tends to be faster than the average strength weapon and will always be the first weapon to hit in a trade. And mage is very gimmicky and too reliant on their flasks, and you can always bloodhound step in to melee range against them and dodge most, if not all of their attacks with it.
@@nationofheels cool did you start as a sorcerer? What was your starting class? Also very sorry for so many questions but do you find people in 160 often?
@@AmazingBreadEdits Yes I started as Astrologer and for the most part especially as of recently I have encounter a few 160+ players on pvp but they seem to match me with a lot of 120-150 players. And no worries bro! I appreciate the questions!
Mages Don't need nerfed. Players need to get good. Anything that isn't an exploit other than maybe bloodhound step, is fine. Bloodhound Step is basically the cartwheel from DS1. Easiest way to counter it is to use it and wait for the player to get bored and start engaging then either parry or just predict them attacking. Everything in the game has a counter in some way or another. This community needs to stop being so entitled. This wasn't like this in DS1. You just came prepared for bullshit.
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nah it doesn't need nerfing your dmg isn't game breaking and you're clearly sub par at playing caster. plus you're fighting morons so in terms of performance it isn't OP.
dawg relax. full time hater jesus christ
@@Alexx44444 I mean he’s right
Right. But hater
@@True_bandit should he lie and be wrong ? You guys cry for anything
Lmao damn man
But that's not 1v3... that's 1v1 3times wtf dude xD
Thats why it says 1v3 gauntlet :)
@@chazfernandes9840 gauntlet usually refers to facing a group of enemies, he just did 3 1v1s so calling it a 1v3 gauntlet doesn't work
@@vipsnap2707 he doesnt care he got ya
@@ninjajin8788 ?
I be praying for 1v1s like these 🤣
lol, you won a 1 vs 3 coz they went one by one
Mage is a high risk class. If you miss one spell it leaves you wide open for a counterattack.
Usually mages are high risk in that sense yes, but not in Elden ring. The recovery time after spellcasts is as high as the average melee attack. Sure you can't spam the high channel spells as much as you could a katana r1/l1, but you've also got low cast time spells. Imo Mage isn't very risky.
But I still think that it's a balanced class, aside from a few disgusting spells, which most builds have, like dex and their Rob, Mv, & Mh
As does any other build...
not really, you can spam tf out of magic to where it doesn't give ppl much time to really do anything, it's carried, some spells out there you can spam that have really good accuracy that you can't fully avoid, you will get hit by it 90% of the time it's being used.
Mages are OP but so are a lot of build if you play em right. I could almost be pretty sure a high dex/arc build using the RoB WA would melt a mage in a matter of seconds.
Mages only have a couple things that make them op. Honestly, you can kill them pretty easy. Moonveil needs tuned tho
What’s rob wa
@@kodyking3090 Rivers of Blood weapon art
@@tack3411 Moonveil already got tuned
easier said then done tbh
First off, carina slicer has a running attack. Abuse the hell out of it like you are rollcatching with a halberd. Second off, less mind more vigor, at least 60 at level 120+, lastly, remove stars of ruin. Replace it with collapsing stars. And you’ve got the most based mage build in the game
First off, you don’t have the right
O you don’t have the right
GG. I would honestly recommend switching to the carrion regal scepter. It's weapons art is surprisingly good and fools people often. The dps boost of lusats vs the fp cost isn't worth it in pvp. You'd get hit way less of you didn't need to potion up.
Nice tip! I’ll definitely look into that!
@@nationofheels you can also afford less mind if you use the regal sceptre - more hp allows you to make some pretty crazy trades with the gavel and etc just bc of how much damage you deal
Can second the Carian Regal scepter. The sheer panic that sets in when the other player realizes they’ve made a grave mistake is wonderful. Its spinning attack deals so much damage and stun locks enemies.
I prefer the carian glintblade staff as it has higher scaling for me fully leveled. With the scepter I get 287, the glintblade staff 298 both S Intelligence scaling. Plus you only need 22 int for glintblade staff. Its also lighter, boosts glintblade sorceries, and you can equip your own ash of war to it.
Honestly as long as carian retaliation exists I’m fine with mage, I think they need to patch the self parry glitch, and then nerf the damage of carian retaliation in general. I’m a fine full str build and carian retaliation is my best friend for mages
NOOOOO what did you do
@@MH-alane spell parried those wretched mages
The erdtree sheild takes care of mages in a jiffy. Best sheild for mage countering, takes them out in one shot.
needs a lot of strength and faith to wield though, not a popular combination for dex weapon users. and you need to pump up Faith in order for the damage reflection to do a lot of damage itself.
it to multi-track record. I would play with an effect or two on my recordings, but I never touched the soft role or the step sequencer.
All classes i have notice have some pretty Op builds I saw a 2 hand great hammer do 1500 damage one hit to another guy
My glintstone pebble does 1,500 damage lol :)
Respect one by one. I always encountered 3 coming for me together. What a shameless
Although it’s a possibility it was someone else, using the same gear/ weapons on PC, I’m fairly certain this guy spams in duels.. oh and pots. (And then disconnects when someone is beating him )
oh dip a high level mage fighting noobs in the starting area one at a time?? better nerf mages to the ground!
you realize they are all round the same level right? Lmfao
@bruh meme i mean its not like the nigga could control if he fights pros or not
@bruh meme he said “high level mage fighting noobs” I never said anything about skill level idiot. I just mentioned that they are all “ high leveled since matchmaking only pairs within 20 levels up and down
@bruh meme i'd like to think that people above level 100 have at the very least some skill
@@derpasuarusrexilous9999 npc's vs real people are very different things.
Stars of ruin needs a nerf besides that I’m ok with mages
A mage never needs a nerf. What is magic if it isnt the most potent and strongest? Ill stop playin elden ring if they ever take away my strength my power
Exactly why I didnt pick up DS3
The magic does look cool. Looks like they went the DS2 route with creativity and utility which is cool. DS3 sorcery was only good for fall damage and running past mobs. Still don't think I'll play with this game though. Not really trying to beat a game twice just to have a good build to play the game 🤣
Sa1loR_JaRRy shidd bro im on my first play through level 350+ aint new gaming plus till i get everything i need which i think i do. I can either be a very op ass mage or i can be a thunder god a dragon lord. I got the talismans boost for sorcery and lightning all that. And pvp is mostly my favorite part about the game. New game plus gets harder and harder every plus. Definitely something to fw
No one was using bloodhound step or even attempting to get close with a bloodbuild
Why do they make the dumbest looking helmets and not include a hide option??
0:53
Tried to cheese you like a boss in pvp 🤣
They need to fix the annoying ones that are hard to doge. Other than that it’s fine just always run the Greatly reduce mage damage spell
MAGE PVP 1V3 GAUNTLET AMONG US
I haven't been killed in weeks like lol funny when I get invaded now n days
Divide et impera, so simple!
I found it kind of embarrassing his friends were all alone and the guy invokes a specter I found it disrespectful to his friends and like saying they are just pieces but at least he has the honor of fighting fairly, something that the elder ring community doesn't have much
Bro ham I just started my mage I'm trying to get like you my boy
Not very shocking to see all these homophobes in the comnts. There's a lot of closet cases in the soft industry
Great 👍 video
Second guy didn't even try though... Really gonna count that guy?
That's one v one 3x not one v 3 haha
Should probably mention your level for context. With that much mind I highly doubt you're around 125-150. Guessing at least 200?
he probably has items to raise his mind/int
The only thing that needs to be nerfed or dealt with is spamming. Spamming one specific spell or inc. spamming one single weapon art/ash. You run into 3 players that have no skill at all and just constantly spam over and over, unless you run away and hide using concealing veil your going to lose 9/10 times cause your not going to be able to dodge 3 different spams from 3 different angles the whole time...
I been doing 1v1s, 1v2s, and 1v3s all naked , bloodhound step and Keen Uchigatana and Blood Nagakiba. The overall player base is really nooby and spammy. (Simple reads) occasionally you will find a formiddable player though. Alot dont like to rematch though which is the sad part
This is not a 1v3 btw.
Mage doesnt need a nerf it is meant to pelt out damage imo its so fkn easy to kill mages as Melee depending on the map im invading in
so sick bro clean build
What is that beam he casts at 0:42?
Comet Azure i believe it's called
that's Sword of Night and Flame, the R1 weapon art.
Why no damage at 2:40?
Gg
Bro🤯
yah if any of them actually tried to kill u they probly could of
I didn’t know this game have PVP is it too late now to get?
Nah, never too late king
So whats op here? The always dodgeable spells? The mediocre dmg. It has range and variety yes and thats the selling point for mage pvp. Does it bleed dmg? No.
Dumb
Wow "bLeEd iS tOo oP" said every mage user ever
@@Jishuteki bleed IS OP. This is coming from a bleed user.
@@karloangelic lmao have you not seen some strength and or INT builds? It's not the only "oVeRpOwErEd" thing in the game and people need to stop acting like it..
@@Jishuteki a dual wielding occult cross-naginata with seppuku buff active will instableed on a single running powerstance attack, meaning that strength builds with unlimited poise can't do shit in a trade since bleed stuns them, they will always lose since objectively bleed users weapons tends to be faster than the average strength weapon and will always be the first weapon to hit in a trade. And mage is very gimmicky and too reliant on their flasks, and you can always bloodhound step in to melee range against them and dodge most, if not all of their attacks with it.
Smh sorcerers tsk tsk tsk.
What level?
160!
@@nationofheels cool did you start as a sorcerer? What was your starting class? Also very sorry for so many questions but do you find people in 160 often?
@@AmazingBreadEdits Yes I started as Astrologer and for the most part especially as of recently I have encounter a few 160+ players on pvp but they seem to match me with a lot of 120-150 players. And no worries bro! I appreciate the questions!
more of a 1v1v1
Three 1v1’s against garbage players really shows off just how broken it is.
look at this guy PKing LOL
Picture quality wth
This is high level PvP mage????? Holy shhhhh
Looks low level to me lol
ive destroyed cheesers like thse lol just buff yourself with the barrier of gold and rush them
People are so dumb. They 1v3 and think stuff needs a nerf. You can 1v3 if ur good. I've seen plenty of pros 1v3 and wi n. 🤦♂️
He isnt good n its no 1v3, its 1v1
Ah mage the most boring class when u dont want to have real battle.
Lol I fought this dude a couple of times
Hardly a 1v3.
No nerf
Mages Don't need nerfed. Players need to get good. Anything that isn't an exploit other than maybe bloodhound step, is fine. Bloodhound Step is basically the cartwheel from DS1. Easiest way to counter it is to use it and wait for the player to get bored and start engaging then either parry or just predict them attacking. Everything in the game has a counter in some way or another. This community needs to stop being so entitled. This wasn't like this in DS1. You just came prepared for bullshit.
Bait
And it was noobs using Azur comet lol
this needs more dislikes to be honest, now its just 100 dislikes for 1k likes. im disappointed hahahahaha
Bro they are bots
they really sucked no ?
Noob battles
lol, they just bad. typical noob situation
nah, they just sucked
In short. Yes. Mages do need nerfs.
This looks so much worse than WoW
Mage is for noobs
Bleed is for noobs n stupid op
Str is Clean, faith is Clean
Mage is weak, nobody play mage at 150+ cz its Roo difficult n weak in PvP
Mage sucks, all noobs
Fu**ed Finger has died
Why no damage at 2:40?