This essay articulates the king experience and struggles so well! You are doing the community such a service - going to share this every time a queen says to me that it's easier to be a king than queen
We have a growing drag king/drag thing base here but there are still instances of preferential treatment for queens. POC performers is still a narrow margin but our Latin drag performer community is growing exponentially. We need more light on this, thank you so much for making this video! Much love, Frank Siracha 🖤🤘🌶️
People ask me: “Hey Fennec! How did you come up with your drag king aesthetic?” Me: “I watched ‘Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure’”. Wonderful essay, by the way! Loved it!
Medievaval fashion and forward for nobles and royalty has some really interesting details that followed different gender norms. The powdered wigs, high heels, colorful clothes, feathers, hats, intricate patterns, tights, strange silhouttes and jevelry. It could be a great source of inspiration for something different than suits and pants. ❤ I wish modern fashion for men could be much more experimental and colorful.
Im not a drag king. I'm a afab queen/thing but I support my kings!! The night world loves women unless we act/dress like men, hell even when we dress like women unless we are fucking hot no one cares!! Let's support our afab sister's!!
Thankyou for this! As the mother of a trans male son i was thrown into the world of drag through out local community of queer groups etc i have watched drag race finding the almost non representation hurtful to my now 17 year old son, i found Dragula and finally through this met Landon! This is how good kings are to me i found myself confused for the first time as a cis female much to my sons amusement hehe but since then I understand the view most of the population might have on the queens! This needs to be about more! We need questions about our own gender identities to be raised with our children and friends thankyou thankyou so much for helping me through your words to explain the real gender differences my son is facing along with giving him some pride in his mum lol
As one of the current kings on the tuesday night dive bar troupe in question, thank you for this video. And a lot of performers in the city in question don’t realize im even usually a king until they bother to look at my Instagram because I feel like I can’t do masc drag outside of our troupe if I want to get booked at all. Which is shit and im trying to stop giving into it but rent is high.
i was first introduced to drag kings by an old buzzfeed (yes) video, and its been so hard to find any other content out there. i wish kings got the attention they deserve. i also enjoyed hearing your cat in the BG
Thank you for this very educational video I loved it!!! And then the cat part was so funny at the end 😂☠️ I was watching and hearing the distant meows thinking it was one of my cats 😅
jesus h christ youve done such amazing work here. POINTS. WERE. MADE. Also, I’ve been fixating on this topic for months and I’m so glad you you made this video with the answers ❤ now im already exhausted but re-inspired to get back into king drag.
thank you so much for this video! If I can add anything, while eurocentric fashion has been basic as far as men wear goes, Inreally love when poc performers take inspiration from traditional acts and costrumes. drag has come from very different places in the world and I think especially for bigger venues it should be celebrated and broadcasted way more!
amazing video! thank you so much for articulating the experiences as a drag king. also gonna send this to everyone who asks me why they havn't even heared of drag kings before.
I refer to this video almost everyday, it's sad that I can't find a drag dad to help me as I'm just starting out. I am faced with bigotry everyday and it's honestly surprising and infuriating that the LGBT+ community considers itself inclusive when stuff like that still happens.
such a greatly scripted, well said, and well edited video. this video is what I could show to everyone who dismisses kings and drag performers/drag things/drag monsters. thank you for bringing up the RuPaulifiation of drag and how it has ultimately limits what the public thinks of drag as a whole. thank you for your perspectives on race, ability, gender, sex, and class, even if those things don't affect you directly. you got a new subscriber, and kings like you are paving the way for baby kings like myself. I cannot thank you enough.
This is a very good essay that is incredibly well thought out and written, but I just want to counter your points at 31:00 onwards where you discuss the higher criticism and "cringe" that kings combat. While I agree with what you're saying, i think you're overlooking another issue. We kings are always aware of the criticism and prejudice that will be levelled at us. Perhaps this is just me but whenever I see someone do a less than remarkable performance, I think there's an extra layer that I feel they're letting the side down, or I know they will not win the dismissive crowd over. Its part of the psychology forced onto us raised female (and usually ND as there is a huge overlap between queerness and ND in those raised as female) that we are expected to predict and prevent emotional reactions in others. A lot of baby kings aren't great because they don't have the time, space and support to develop like queens do, as you say, but I think many kings are more critical of other kings because we are so on edge and eager to make sure we're all beyond criticism
Everything in this marvellous essay rings true, I've watched it several times now, and every time I make another connection between my experiences of my first year in drag and the collective wisdom you've encapsulated so articulately and astutely here. Continue to rise up king, we're all coming with you
I was about to write a comment about the drag king troupe "Kings 'N' Things" in Birmingham, UK and wanted to double check the current regular kings in it. When I got there I was heartbroken to discover that they've disbanded, which is such a shame. I knew one of the kings and they got their big break into the Brum drag scene through KNT. That used to be a fairly regular gig and it's a shame to see this become another example of drag kings losing a rare foothold.
I'm not quite through watching the whole thing, but wanted to comment that this is a wonderfully well thought out essay and I very much appreciate it. I am an AFAB Queen, and I definitely see what you are talking about when it comes to King performers in my area. So much more to say, but I'll keep it brief. I'll be looking you up on social media!
I stumbled across this video while trying to find disabled king representation, and I’m so glad I clicked. You so eloquently explained a lot of what makes me feel uncomfortable and excluded from the drag scene
I found out about you when the Instagram algorithm showed me your reel about the cow goddess which was absolutely hilarious. the fact that you are not American just blew my mind because you really served American woman with your drag in that reel
I'm only just getting into drag as both someones who enjoys watching drag, and dressing in drag. I've mainly seen queens and maybe 1... possibly 2 kings. It would be nice to see more kings dressing up and being 'Them'. This was a wonderfully insightful view into the drag king side of things. Thank you
Great video! I'm lucky to live in Atlanta where the drag king scene is bigger than most. It is still hard to get into. I completely agree with your points. I also wanted to add that kings aren't able to find wigs as easily as queens since there are less masculine wigs that are of a good quality.
I’m afab, trans they/he. I’ve recently come out this past year. I have been exploring make up and love painting my face in a masculine way but more than that I love creating colorful drag looks. I really very much want to be a drag king, I love how it sounds, I love the idea of it, I want to be a king, but I’ve encountered so much confusion or straight rejection of my gender identity and interests. I guess as someone who is and identifies as masculine, I was sort of wanting someone to tell me it’s ok for a man to be a drag king. Thank you! Edit: Didn’t expect this video to go so hard, yes!!! I’ve been struggling so hard to find tutorials and there’s so few to choose from, and as someone with agoraphobia meeting people is really really hard. I’ve never even been to a club but my little queer anxious heart wants to perform one day!
i don’t really like putting a label on my gender more of a whatever the fuck than anything but nonbinary describes me best if you want a label for me i liked drag queens but then i saw kings and drew a beard on and thought fuck this makes me feel really good and i kept doing it im also a lesbian and i really want to give it a go however im not 18 and can’t get into bars so i would love something like rupaul for kings so thank you for this it really helps me not dismiss my interest in drag
I'm writing a research paper for my class, The History of LGBTQIA+ Pop Culture in the U.S. I want to use / cite your video, but I wondered: Are you based / doing Drag in the U.S.? And in which cities have you worked?
@lucymaude Thank you so much! I can send you a copy of my paper when it's done if you want. I really appreciate all the research and effort you put into this video essay; it was very well done.
Wow this is an amazing essay. Super informative (especially for someone like me who is not into drag at all, much less drag kings), really funny when it needed to, very light to watch AND with incredible outfits throughout the entire video 💖✨💖
This is interesting because I became a drag queen fan. But you are right I barely hear about Drag kings. Our Queens give us fierce fashion,fem and Queenly identity. I would love to see see fierce kings artistry.
hiii loved your video! drag is a form of art, quick reminder that you don't have to be afab to be a drag king, this is the world of many many many possibilities muah
I myself choose to live in eternal celestial twilight, where there are no genders any more. I have faught long and hard in order to be where I am today, and I will not yeald an inch. But I really would like to see drag king movement progress and prosper. More power to you!
I think a lot of women regardless of sexual preference come to the realization (hopefully in their 20s) that dressing for someone else to think they are cute is nonsense and that I don't have to dress for the male gaze. I feel like that's when a lot of us enter our flowy blouse/tunic era tbh lol
When i saw this video i felt excited. There is something that intrigues me in terms of expression and i have on my own explored dressing as a masculine version of myself. I am not queer however i am open. Being in a relationship with the opposite sex and have not been physically interested in him for 7years. I am also not attracted to women sexually however i admire them. I LOVE that you have created this video and i continue to be excited to what is possible especially on a creative way!!
As I continue to watch your video and hear you share about limitations for men’s fashion I love how you are dressed, a mix of feminine flare with the masculine edge. Again I feel an excitement in what is truly possible outside the box
Ok now I am at the end of your video. Inspired to say it would be also really cool for women to do drag as a woman! Like the men do! What is it about the men that dress in drag that have beards? Women could do that too! I realize I have no idea what I am talking about based on not having any experience in the drag queen or king world. I wish you the very very best no matter what. Especially as a drag king if this is what your heart truly desires
as a bisexual trans woman i find myself more interested in being a drag king than being a drag queen. i am a woman and i wanna deconstruct how being expected to be a man has harmed me, i think that could be healing to me.
Camp wannakiki has five seasons. The first three were on TH-cam but now they're all on the shout TV app but I already have 7 streaming services so I think I'm just good. Plus season 3 spoiler ........ the sugarbaker twin started screaming at everyone randomly and then picked a winner who admittedly cheated in one of the challenges just to make the point that it's okay for cisgender women to be drag queens and that they're valid. Second spoiler alert for season 3 the drag queen doesn't even really do drag if you look at their instagram. Their whole page only had three looks. It's like they paid someone to style them for the competition. Sorry but if someone cheats they should be out. Also they were taking season 3 way too seriously for a show where you have to pay for your own plane tickets. Of course not every look is going to be up to par people just spent $600 getting to you in the wilderness ...... Which I know because I was going to audition but they wanted you to pay a lot. ..... Still made a video because I finished reading the audition thing after 😅. I really like to season 1 and 2 of camp waunakee and I do want to get the shout out to see if they went back to their old roots but I'm scared. Also if you're on a streaming service now why are people still buying their own plane tickets?
The thing is Drag Race IS a show for drag queens and I’ve been on forums for years and the topic keeps coming up and it’s only a very small percentage of people that seem slightly interested for Kings to be on RPDR and even though you mock people’s reasons, the truth is no, a lot of people don’t enjoy the makeup or aesthetic.. I honestly do think ya’ll should make your own show and prove us all wrong…
For starters DRAG is an acronym: DRessed Asa Girl. Thus the phrase "drag king" makes no sense. It would be DRAB: DRessed Asa Boy. Whatever is the statement you are trying to make, not knowing your terminology detracts in a substantial way. Cheers.
Got a source? Just because you saw this on RuPaul does not mean it’s true. You can look up the etymology of the word drag in relation to drag performance and this is literally never mentioned. Cheers!
@@ryderslowly1 Oh, you did not look very far. Sources galore. NO, I am not going to spoon feed you - find them for yourself; your tone is not that of someone I normally engage with. Interesting, though, how invested you are in such a trivial comment. Well, not that interesting. By the way what is a "RuPaul?"
@@kaoskronostyche9939 I’ll take that as a no on the sources then 😂. There are very few acronyms that exist in the English language before WWI… Drag was originally a word referring to any type of clothing (robes, dresses, skirts) that dragged on the ground. I believe you’re referring to the myth that Shakespeare originated the term because his actors would be Dressed Resembling A Girl, which isn’t true. The Shakespearean era has so little concrete information that people even question whether he was a man, several men in a writing club, a woman, etc. Regardless, if that was the case the term was born through misogyny because only men were allowed to act on stage at that time and probably needed to be redefined anyways. This is not a new phenomenon… the word lit had a totally different meaning before it was popularized to mean drunk or high.
@@kaoskronostyche9939 so I have actually looked this up in various etymology dictionaries and encyclopaedias and we do not know for sure where the term drag comes from - there is no evidence is specifically started as "dressed as a girl" AND even if we did accept that that is the original meaning, words can change. The bi in bisexual means two, but bisexuals can be attracted to many genders. Etymology is fluid.
Drag standing for DRessing As a Girl is actually a myth. Performers were dressing as women far before the term Drag came about. Women at the time were forbidden to perform, so the term ‘drag’ meaning ‘dressing as a girl’ would be entirely redundant. The term drag actually refers to wearing costumes that drag on the floor - long trains, dresses and costumes that drag on the floor behind as you walk. Drag was a costume note - the one in Drag must be dressed opulently
A few important things to mention: 1) dressing up in costume, make up, etc. and/or performing for an audience are inherently ‘feminine’ tropes. Putting on make up to replicate a Moustache or any ‘male’ attribute is performatively feminine at its core. The notion of masculinity in our society is the antithesis of drag in any form. 2) to reiterate, Masculinity is inherently anti drag. So dressing up as any gender is an inherently feminine act. 3) This is why drag kings are not inherently subversive. The equivalent of a drag queen in terms of subversive quality and social importance would be something closer to a Cis-female bodybuilder, because the masculine stereotype appears ‘natural,’ meaning it is virtually impossible to even participate in ‘drag’ because the body as ‘natural’ and ‘strong’ is difficult to subvert or visually deny, forcing the viewer to question their understanding of gender.
So Rambo is a feminine trope? John Wayne is a feminine trope? Walter Cronkite? Frank Sinatra? Jay Z? All men who wear stage makeup and costume in the entertainment field? It is impossible to perform masculine tropes? Putting on any male attribute is feminine? Even Mens clothing? Standing around naked is the only way one can truly be masculine? Wild take! There's an old saying, "the clothes make the man"... and your opinion on bodybuilders is only one of may ways to project power, in fact by your own definition it would also be considered feminine at its core, as it's just more performative aesthetics for vanity. In another setting, a slim man would look more feminine and vulnerable while naked, then if he was wearing a powerful suit. Men perform gender tropes relating to masculinity every day. Oh, also, many drag kings body build.
@@elizenazelie No, you are not Understanding my point. I’m talking about 24:30. The linchpin of those examples that you mention is that they are not self-identified as doing drag or ‘becoming’ anything. Cronkite might perform as a journalist but he would never admit to ‘becoming’ Cronkite in the make up chair prior to the newscast and ‘performing’ in drag during the broadcast. So he might be in male drag but he is not subverting masculine stereotypes. He does not reveal the fact that he ‘becomes’ anything. Rambo is not feminine. Rambo doesn’t try to be Rambo. Perhaps Sly Stallone working out and oiling himself up and deepening his voice to play Rambo might be considered ‘feminine’ especially if he admitted it and called himself a ‘drag king’ and even more so if Stallone identified as a female when not dressed up as Rambo. I hope this makes sense.
When drag queens/gay men say "drag kings are inherently not subversive" they mean "women aren't subversive and creative"
This essay articulates the king experience and struggles so well! You are doing the community such a service - going to share this every time a queen says to me that it's easier to be a king than queen
“If you start imitating or pulling apart masculinity in drag - what else are you pulling apart?” What. Wow💪🏻
We have a growing drag king/drag thing base here but there are still instances of preferential treatment for queens. POC performers is still a narrow margin but our Latin drag performer community is growing exponentially. We need more light on this, thank you so much for making this video! Much love, Frank Siracha 🖤🤘🌶️
omg i love ur name
Frank Siracha? 😂 Fabulous Drag King name!
People ask me: “Hey Fennec! How did you come up with your drag king aesthetic?”
Me: “I watched ‘Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure’”.
Wonderful essay, by the way! Loved it!
REAL
Medievaval fashion and forward for nobles and royalty has some really interesting details that followed different gender norms. The powdered wigs, high heels, colorful clothes, feathers, hats, intricate patterns, tights, strange silhouttes and jevelry. It could be a great source of inspiration for something different than suits and pants. ❤
I wish modern fashion for men could be much more experimental and colorful.
Love this! Very thoughtful and informative. May it reach millions more!
Im not a drag king. I'm a afab queen/thing but I support my kings!! The night world loves women unless we act/dress like men, hell even when we dress like women unless we are fucking hot no one cares!! Let's support our afab sister's!!
This is an excellent video, hoping the algorithm will still pick it up and glad I came across it
Thankyou for this! As the mother of a trans male son i was thrown into the world of drag through out local community of queer groups etc i have watched drag race finding the almost non representation hurtful to my now 17 year old son, i found Dragula and finally through this met Landon! This is how good kings are to me i found myself confused for the first time as a cis female much to my sons amusement hehe but since then I understand the view most of the population might have on the queens! This needs to be about more! We need questions about our own gender identities to be raised with our children and friends thankyou thankyou so much for helping me through your words to explain the real gender differences my son is facing along with giving him some pride in his mum lol
As one of the current kings on the tuesday night dive bar troupe in question, thank you for this video. And a lot of performers in the city in question don’t realize im even usually a king until they bother to look at my Instagram because I feel like I can’t do masc drag outside of our troupe if I want to get booked at all. Which is shit and im trying to stop giving into it but rent is high.
i was first introduced to drag kings by an old buzzfeed (yes) video, and its been so hard to find any other content out there. i wish kings got the attention they deserve. i also enjoyed hearing your cat in the BG
Thank you for this very educational video I loved it!!! And then the cat part was so funny at the end 😂☠️ I was watching and hearing the distant meows thinking it was one of my cats 😅
Thank you, from the bottom of my heart, thank you. This is so well done.
Thank you for speaking up for us all who share these sentiments
jesus h christ youve done such amazing work here. POINTS. WERE. MADE. Also, I’ve been fixating on this topic for months and I’m so glad you you made this video with the answers ❤ now im already exhausted but re-inspired to get back into king drag.
thank you so much for this video! If I can add anything, while eurocentric fashion has been basic as far as men wear goes, Inreally love when poc performers take inspiration from traditional acts and costrumes. drag has come from very different places in the world and I think especially for bigger venues it should be celebrated and broadcasted way more!
amazing video! thank you so much for articulating the experiences as a drag king. also gonna send this to everyone who asks me why they havn't even heared of drag kings before.
I refer to this video almost everyday, it's sad that I can't find a drag dad to help me as I'm just starting out. I am faced with bigotry everyday and it's honestly surprising and infuriating that the LGBT+ community considers itself inclusive when stuff like that still happens.
God I want this video to blow up so badly, it's amazing!
such a greatly scripted, well said, and well edited video. this video is what I could show to everyone who dismisses kings and drag performers/drag things/drag monsters. thank you for bringing up the RuPaulifiation of drag and how it has ultimately limits what the public thinks of drag as a whole. thank you for your perspectives on race, ability, gender, sex, and class, even if those things don't affect you directly. you got a new subscriber, and kings like you are paving the way for baby kings like myself. I cannot thank you enough.
This is a very good essay that is incredibly well thought out and written, but I just want to counter your points at 31:00 onwards where you discuss the higher criticism and "cringe" that kings combat.
While I agree with what you're saying, i think you're overlooking another issue. We kings are always aware of the criticism and prejudice that will be levelled at us. Perhaps this is just me but whenever I see someone do a less than remarkable performance, I think there's an extra layer that I feel they're letting the side down, or I know they will not win the dismissive crowd over. Its part of the psychology forced onto us raised female (and usually ND as there is a huge overlap between queerness and ND in those raised as female) that we are expected to predict and prevent emotional reactions in others. A lot of baby kings aren't great because they don't have the time, space and support to develop like queens do, as you say, but I think many kings are more critical of other kings because we are so on edge and eager to make sure we're all beyond criticism
What's ND?
@@savanahlow7066 i believe in this comment its meaning neurodivergent:)
I loved this video. Thank you for the work you put into it and for naming things about drag culture I didn’t have language for before.
Keep pushing, pushing, and fucking around with those constructs. Thank you for a great essay on this. topic.
Stay fierce and fabulous!
Thanks so much for making this and YES to all of it! Sending sparkly love from Munich, Germany!
🤣😆 @18:20 “okurrr! Crash!”😂
Everything in this marvellous essay rings true, I've watched it several times now, and every time I make another connection between my experiences of my first year in drag and the collective wisdom you've encapsulated so articulately and astutely here. Continue to rise up king, we're all coming with you
I was about to write a comment about the drag king troupe "Kings 'N' Things" in Birmingham, UK and wanted to double check the current regular kings in it. When I got there I was heartbroken to discover that they've disbanded, which is such a shame. I knew one of the kings and they got their big break into the Brum drag scene through KNT. That used to be a fairly regular gig and it's a shame to see this become another example of drag kings losing a rare foothold.
Absolutely incredible video. I look forward to rewatching it many times.
I'm not quite through watching the whole thing, but wanted to comment that this is a wonderfully well thought out essay and I very much appreciate it. I am an AFAB Queen, and I definitely see what you are talking about when it comes to King performers in my area. So much more to say, but I'll keep it brief. I'll be looking you up on social media!
Thank you for this video. I've never seen your channel before, keep making more!
I stumbled across this video while trying to find disabled king representation, and I’m so glad I clicked. You so eloquently explained a lot of what makes me feel uncomfortable and excluded from the drag scene
This gives me so much pride in being a King ♥️
I found out about you when the Instagram algorithm showed me your reel about the cow goddess which was absolutely hilarious. the fact that you are not American just blew my mind because you really served American woman with your drag in that reel
Such a well written and produced video, thank you so much for your work.
This was a really interesting, insightful, and well constructed video. Thanks for making it :)
Diving into the DK world on YT had been a lot of fun. Thanks for sharing ❤
I'm only just getting into drag as both someones who enjoys watching drag, and dressing in drag. I've mainly seen queens and maybe 1... possibly 2 kings. It would be nice to see more kings dressing up and being 'Them'. This was a wonderfully insightful view into the drag king side of things. Thank you
Great video! I'm lucky to live in Atlanta where the drag king scene is bigger than most. It is still hard to get into. I completely agree with your points. I also wanted to add that kings aren't able to find wigs as easily as queens since there are less masculine wigs that are of a good quality.
An awesome video! Thank you for making this.
Very well said, researched, the whole thing. And actually gave me some great ideas.
sharing this with all my friends, love this so much ❤ louis
Thank you for making the video, it is great! 🥰
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I’m afab, trans they/he. I’ve recently come out this past year. I have been exploring make up and love painting my face in a masculine way but more than that I love creating colorful drag looks.
I really very much want to be a drag king, I love how it sounds, I love the idea of it, I want to be a king, but I’ve encountered so much confusion or straight rejection of my gender identity and interests.
I guess as someone who is and identifies as masculine, I was sort of wanting someone to tell me it’s ok for a man to be a drag king. Thank you!
Edit: Didn’t expect this video to go so hard, yes!!! I’ve been struggling so hard to find tutorials and there’s so few to choose from, and as someone with agoraphobia meeting people is really really hard. I’ve never even been to a club but my little queer anxious heart wants to perform one day!
You'll get there king!!
i don’t really like putting a label on my gender more of a whatever the fuck than anything but nonbinary describes me best if you want a label for me i liked drag queens but then i saw kings and drew a beard on and thought fuck this makes me feel really good and i kept doing it im also a lesbian and i really want to give it a go however im not 18 and can’t get into bars so i would love something like rupaul for kings so thank you for this it really helps me not dismiss my interest in drag
Thank you for making this video ❤❤❤❤❤
I'm writing a research paper for my class, The History of LGBTQIA+ Pop Culture in the U.S. I want to use / cite your video, but I wondered: Are you based / doing Drag in the U.S.? And in which cities have you worked?
Yes of course you can! I am based in the US; have worked in Austin TX, St Louis MO, Louisville KY, and Albuquerque NM
@lucymaude Thank you so much! I can send you a copy of my paper when it's done if you want. I really appreciate all the research and effort you put into this video essay; it was very well done.
The cats were agreeing with everything you were saying and just needed to tell everyone!
Wow this is an amazing essay. Super informative (especially for someone like me who is not into drag at all, much less drag kings), really funny when it needed to, very light to watch AND with incredible outfits throughout the entire video 💖✨💖
This is interesting because I became a drag queen fan. But you are right I barely hear about Drag kings. Our Queens give us fierce fashion,fem and Queenly identity. I would love to see see fierce kings artistry.
Thanks for your insight❤
hiii loved your video! drag is a form of art, quick reminder that you don't have to be afab to be a drag king, this is the world of many many many possibilities muah
Love the cat noises hahaha for half the video i thought it was my cat craving attention lol
I myself choose to live in eternal celestial twilight, where there are no genders any more. I have faught long and hard in order to be where I am today, and I will not yeald an inch. But I really would like to see drag king movement progress and prosper. More power to you!
I think a lot of women regardless of sexual preference come to the realization (hopefully in their 20s) that dressing for someone else to think they are cute is nonsense and that I don't have to dress for the male gaze. I feel like that's when a lot of us enter our flowy blouse/tunic era tbh lol
Thank you for doing this!!!!
This did take awhile for you to do because call me mother had another season 😅 thoroughly enjoying the video so far
SUCH a great video!
Brilliant, thank you
this is so fantastic
When i saw this video i felt excited. There is something that intrigues me in terms of expression and i have on my own explored dressing as a masculine version of myself. I am not queer however i am open. Being in a relationship with the opposite sex and have not been physically interested in him for 7years. I am also not attracted to women sexually however i admire them. I LOVE that you have created this video and i continue to be excited to what is possible especially on a creative way!!
As I continue to watch your video and hear you share about limitations for men’s fashion I love how you are dressed, a mix of feminine flare with the masculine edge. Again I feel an excitement in what is truly possible outside the box
Ok now I am at the end of your video. Inspired to say it would be also really cool for women to do drag as a woman! Like the men do! What is it about the men that dress in drag that have beards?
Women could do that too! I realize I have no idea what I am talking about based on not having any experience in the drag queen or king world. I wish you the very very best no matter what. Especially as a drag king if this is what your heart truly desires
@@sharmaraygoldman9415 women already act as drag queens too! It's very exciting. I'm glad you're keeping your heart open
The end..... Cats effing up shit since the dawn of time......
Have you seen the fashion in Our Flag Means Death?
Love love love
as a bisexual trans woman i find myself more interested in being a drag king than being a drag queen. i am a woman and i wanna deconstruct how being expected to be a man has harmed me, i think that could be healing to me.
Camp wannakiki has five seasons. The first three were on TH-cam but now they're all on the shout TV app but I already have 7 streaming services so I think I'm just good.
Plus season 3 spoiler ........ the sugarbaker twin started screaming at everyone randomly and then picked a winner who admittedly cheated in one of the challenges just to make the point that it's okay for cisgender women to be drag queens and that they're valid. Second spoiler alert for season 3 the drag queen doesn't even really do drag if you look at their instagram. Their whole page only had three looks. It's like they paid someone to style them for the competition. Sorry but if someone cheats they should be out. Also they were taking season 3 way too seriously for a show where you have to pay for your own plane tickets. Of course not every look is going to be up to par people just spent $600 getting to you in the wilderness ...... Which I know because I was going to audition but they wanted you to pay a lot. ..... Still made a video because I finished reading the audition thing after 😅. I really like to season 1 and 2 of camp waunakee and I do want to get the shout out to see if they went back to their old roots but I'm scared. Also if you're on a streaming service now why are people still buying their own plane tickets?
A drag king gave me their phone number once.. I was extremely flattered because I'm not an L or Bi ..lol.. but I considered it a compliment
I am a new born drag king, where can I watch drag me king? 😍
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The only show i know of that portrays drag Kings in a positive manner....The L word and the story of Kit and Ivan Aycock...
The thing is Drag Race IS a show for drag queens and I’ve been on forums for years and the topic keeps coming up and it’s only a very small percentage of people that seem slightly interested for Kings to be on RPDR and even though you mock people’s reasons, the truth is no, a lot of people don’t enjoy the makeup or aesthetic..
I honestly do think ya’ll should make your own show and prove us all wrong…
For starters DRAG is an acronym: DRessed Asa Girl. Thus the phrase "drag king" makes no sense. It would be DRAB: DRessed Asa Boy. Whatever is the statement you are trying to make, not knowing your terminology detracts in a substantial way. Cheers.
Got a source? Just because you saw this on RuPaul does not mean it’s true. You can look up the etymology of the word drag in relation to drag performance and this is literally never mentioned. Cheers!
@@ryderslowly1 Oh, you did not look very far. Sources galore. NO, I am not going to spoon feed you - find them for yourself; your tone is not that of someone I normally engage with. Interesting, though, how invested you are in such a trivial comment. Well, not that interesting. By the way what is a "RuPaul?"
@@kaoskronostyche9939 I’ll take that as a no on the sources then 😂. There are very few acronyms that exist in the English language before WWI… Drag was originally a word referring to any type of clothing (robes, dresses, skirts) that dragged on the ground.
I believe you’re referring to the myth that Shakespeare originated the term because his actors would be Dressed Resembling A Girl, which isn’t true. The Shakespearean era has so little concrete information that people even question whether he was a man, several men in a writing club, a woman, etc. Regardless, if that was the case the term was born through misogyny because only men were allowed to act on stage at that time and probably needed to be redefined anyways. This is not a new phenomenon… the word lit had a totally different meaning before it was popularized to mean drunk or high.
@@kaoskronostyche9939 so I have actually looked this up in various etymology dictionaries and encyclopaedias and we do not know for sure where the term drag comes from - there is no evidence is specifically started as "dressed as a girl"
AND even if we did accept that that is the original meaning, words can change. The bi in bisexual means two, but bisexuals can be attracted to many genders. Etymology is fluid.
Drag standing for DRessing As a Girl is actually a myth. Performers were dressing as women far before the term Drag came about. Women at the time were forbidden to perform, so the term ‘drag’ meaning ‘dressing as a girl’ would be entirely redundant.
The term drag actually refers to wearing costumes that drag on the floor - long trains, dresses and costumes that drag on the floor behind as you walk. Drag was a costume note - the one in Drag must be dressed opulently
A few important things to mention: 1) dressing up in costume, make up, etc. and/or performing for an audience are inherently ‘feminine’ tropes. Putting on make up to replicate a Moustache or any ‘male’ attribute is performatively feminine at its core. The notion of masculinity in our society is the antithesis of drag in any form.
2) to reiterate, Masculinity is inherently anti drag. So dressing up as any gender is an inherently feminine act. 3) This is why drag kings are not inherently subversive. The equivalent of a drag queen in terms of subversive quality and social importance would be something closer to a Cis-female bodybuilder, because the masculine stereotype appears ‘natural,’ meaning it is virtually impossible to even participate in ‘drag’ because the body as ‘natural’ and ‘strong’ is difficult to subvert or visually deny, forcing the viewer to question their understanding of gender.
To your first point, does this mean any man who dresses up for Halloween is feminine?? Lmao please contain your mess
So Rambo is a feminine trope? John Wayne is a feminine trope? Walter Cronkite? Frank Sinatra? Jay Z? All men who wear stage makeup and costume in the entertainment field? It is impossible to perform masculine tropes? Putting on any male attribute is feminine? Even Mens clothing? Standing around naked is the only way one can truly be masculine? Wild take! There's an old saying, "the clothes make the man"... and your opinion on bodybuilders is only one of may ways to project power, in fact by your own definition it would also be considered feminine at its core, as it's just more performative aesthetics for vanity. In another setting, a slim man would look more feminine and vulnerable while naked, then if he was wearing a powerful suit. Men perform gender tropes relating to masculinity every day. Oh, also, many drag kings body build.
What a boring view on gender for someone supposedly into the art of subverting gender.
@@fauxmoe honestly lmaooo
@@elizenazelie No, you are not
Understanding my point. I’m talking about 24:30. The linchpin of those examples that you mention is that they are not self-identified as doing drag or ‘becoming’ anything. Cronkite might perform as a journalist but he would never admit to ‘becoming’ Cronkite in the make up chair prior to the newscast and ‘performing’ in drag during the broadcast. So he might be in male drag but he is not subverting masculine stereotypes. He does not reveal the fact that he ‘becomes’ anything. Rambo is not feminine. Rambo doesn’t try to be Rambo. Perhaps Sly Stallone working out and oiling himself up and deepening his voice to play Rambo might be considered ‘feminine’ especially if he admitted it and called himself a ‘drag king’ and even more so if Stallone identified as a female when not dressed up as Rambo. I hope this makes sense.