DIY 48V 320Ah Grade B LiFePO4 Battery Build: 16kWh for $2,810?!

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  • @WillProwse
    @WillProwse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    And yes, these cells suck. Look at the listing, it states brand new, grade a cells. And this is the garbage I got.
    Grade A cells are ordered. Or so it says they are. That will be next week's video. Hopefully they are good.
    I hate bloated cells, but ahh well. It's lifepo4, so I don't care. Worst that could happen is over pressure relief valve spitting gas for a day and I would have to wheel the box out of my shop. It wouldnt hurt anything though. I would assume that people watching a raw cell battery build would understand the problems with bloated cells. If not, look it up. I would never do this if it was not lifepo4. I used to build packs years ago with lipoly pouch cells and they will burn your house down. Not an issue with lifepo4, but it would be messy and smelly. And you can't breathe that stuff. So stick to a ready built battery if you don't understand this stuff.
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    *Current Connected*
    SOK, Victron, Mr.Cool Heatpumps and High Quality Components. Fantastic customer support:
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    *Litime*
    My favorite 12V budget battery!:
    www.litime.com/?ref=XBIA62RFcalHns
    *Epoch Batteries*
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    • @bruinv3738
      @bruinv3738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thanks for sharing. After my aliexpress order for 280ah cells got canceled I considered getting these "320ah" cells, but hesitated due lousy Aliexpress dispute process.

    • @Dreadlk
      @Dreadlk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Excellent video, it's so good to see some 48V builds from you.
      It sucks that the batteries are so poor of a quality but your taking the bullet for those people who might have gotten suckered into buying them. I cannot wait for your testing review of this pack. Also really looking forward to true Grade A cell pack video. :)
      BTW might be a good idea to keep a charcoal based full face gas mask in your work shop just in case you need to get something out of there without breathing in any of the gas. You could buy an ST-100X or something better and get a good quality canister for it.

    • @blueskies927
      @blueskies927 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’m new to solar. Is the reason you have a 48v system so you can use smaller cables and have higher capacity? Also, do you use 2 inverters to get 240vac or are there single inverters that will do the job? Lastly, how do you wire your panels to the charge controller and what is the wattage/voltage of the panels?

    • @BenCos2018
      @BenCos2018 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@blueskies927
      you can use single inverters to get 240 volt single phase
      You have to get the right one though
      The reason for 48 volt is it allows you to use smaller gauge cables but still be able to have high power loads
      If you increase the voltage then current will be lower which allows the cables to be smaller

    • @JRP3
      @JRP3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's strange that they have 130 all positive reviews on the Aliexpress link. I read a few of them and they seem legit but who knows.

  • @mackfisher4487
    @mackfisher4487 2 ปีที่แล้ว +183

    Will, it's obvious that you are the best solar energy content provider on TH-cam.
    That's because of your unbiased methodical evaluation of manufacturer's products. Congratulations for
    finding a way to support yourself and obviously have so much fun doing it, your enthusiasm is infectious.
    (Infectious might be the wrong word to use at this time)

    • @brianjrichman
      @brianjrichman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      He isn't afraid to say something isn't good, if it isn't. I like that honesty.

    • @LordOneHoop
      @LordOneHoop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Infectious is quite a normal word for all times because it has never been different. People die all day and all years and they will do so also in the future. The thing is that people need those infections to get stronger. Or just die as it has allways been. The thought that people are not allowed to get sick anymore is ludicrous.

    • @Dreadlk
      @Dreadlk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I really like Wills positive attitude and honesty. I wish I could be as positive as Will, but after being around as long as I have it takes a toll on your optimism.

    • @adnanadnanovice3158
      @adnanadnanovice3158 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No it's not, best contest is off-grid-garage from my friend in sunny australia

  • @MrRickyw01
    @MrRickyw01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    This guy is determined. He is methodical. Unbiased. Most importantly he shows that he has a strong will to follow a logical path and find answers to questions that help us all. Yes, this Will is a strong will in search of the facts.

    • @johnandrews9433
      @johnandrews9433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Ben David just how boomers be when they get bricked up about something

  • @mariamjjackson9297
    @mariamjjackson9297 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really appreciate how you thoroughly explain each step (the how, why and when). Great info sensei! I look forward to the next video :D

  • @MattandHolly920
    @MattandHolly920 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's unbelievable how much I learn by watching your channel. Thank you so much!

  • @CarstenDohrmann
    @CarstenDohrmann 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hi Will, glad you tested these 320Ah battery packs. there is a group of Batteries with 304/310/320 Ah which I have used in strings (2 * 16) now for a while on my (Growatt) Solar system and had very little to complain. One cell bloated very slightly (not like the ones you got) when I top balanced a string of 16 and the seller added one more immediately to the next shipping foc. I'm living in Northern Thailand, which is quite close to China and shipping takes only 2 to 3 weeks, so it is easy to order spare batteries and parts. To save space and to keep potential bloating in check I stack them vertically. 8 batteries are stacked on each other and so far it works. I just received another 32 304 Ah batteries after I made good experiences with the 304Ah variation, but I also ordered another 16 320Ah, simply as it was irresistible low priced for 1,250 USD including shipping to my doorstep (83 USD per kWh, unbeatable) and a similar stack from the same seller worked fine but I have no too high expectations, but then, you never know. I'm in the process to expand to two Growatt SPF 5000 ES with 5 X 16S 304/320Ah strings what should keep my house (including all ACs and pool and water pumps, etc, off the grid for a good time of the year and to keep the house bright during the many power cuts we experience here. All great fun.

  • @lifetech101
    @lifetech101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I started 3d printing cases for my lifep04 cells. So far, seems to work well keeping the cells compressed. Thank you for all of the work you have put into these videos. I built a 12v 280ah lifep04 battery for our camper.

  • @claytonbell3903
    @claytonbell3903 ปีที่แล้ว

    so much great information by someone who goes the extra mile to be safe and cost conscious. i look forward to seeing more of your content.

  • @georgedoherty962
    @georgedoherty962 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Will, I have given you many excellent recommendations these past few years. Thank you for all your valuable informative work.

  • @RoguishHound
    @RoguishHound 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your channel. I feel like if I watch enough of it.. I will eventually understand all of it. Thanks for these!

  • @blueboi5000
    @blueboi5000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for all our hard work Will.

    • @blueboi5000
      @blueboi5000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That plastic box you have them in is it safe without having a small fan to take the heat outta the box if it gets any?

  • @alwaysrockn2009
    @alwaysrockn2009 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video! Sounds like your setup rocks dude. Thanks for the demo and the costs of all the equipment. Keeping rocking!

  • @jamesdiyhomestead8263
    @jamesdiyhomestead8263 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    These video's are great. Thanks so much for showing us the good and bad of the batteries and equipment. I plan to build my off grid solar system and these video's are priceless. The size of that system would be perfect for my house.

  • @nunyabusiness2191
    @nunyabusiness2191 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bought 32 of these for only 3700 shipped. They arrived in great condition and no bloating. No marks to indicate they were used. All seems great so far. I ordered through Alibaba

  • @loucinci3922
    @loucinci3922 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    320Ah? Wow. Getting so big. Nice overview. Can't wait for the next one. Thanks for sharing.

  • @petercamusojr1545
    @petercamusojr1545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You put out so much good information, I really enjoy your channel.

  • @joryclouthier
    @joryclouthier 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always a good day when a new video comes out!

  • @Driftwood50
    @Driftwood50 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Will. As always, you make it easy to understand. Thanks for the knowledge

  • @mucholangs
    @mucholangs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    90% capacity at half price. Absolutely worth it.

  • @sailingelectricgitana1286
    @sailingelectricgitana1286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I did this exact same thing a few months ago with the cheapest 100ah LiFePO4 batteries I found on eBay. Took a 2-3 months to arrive just like these and look similar only smaller. I had purchased a sailboat that had been converted to electric, but the lead acid batteries were sulfated. I tried adding magic potions but no luck. Then I got the lithium batteries almost as a test since they were cheaper than lead acid of similar capacity and OMG The performance is fantastic on the boat. I am able to motor for an hour or more at normal maneuvering speeds. I have not done full endurance testing. I'll be adding a second bank eventually. I use the cheap flexible solar panels on the boat.

  • @joeloco5129
    @joeloco5129 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the best solar channel on TH-cam. Subscribed.

  • @blackpearl09101
    @blackpearl09101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That's another great video, I really love the way you explain everything, I also wanted to know what you think about BYD batteries pack HVM and HVS

  • @chuckybaby1973
    @chuckybaby1973 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am learning so much from you Will, thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!

  • @lightrose100
    @lightrose100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can make manufacturer change their design with a little critic which improve their products for all of us, great job

  • @anthonynash8079
    @anthonynash8079 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been waiting for this video since January

  • @whateverthisis3929
    @whateverthisis3929 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was looking at these batteries, i really appreciate the tips and testing.

    • @denveradventures589
      @denveradventures589 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Let us know if you get them

    • @nunyabusiness2191
      @nunyabusiness2191 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bought 32 of the 320ah for 3700 and were grade A!

    • @whateverthisis3929
      @whateverthisis3929 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nunyabusiness2191that's a whole lot of capacity for that price, i guess you'll be running a whole house on that

    • @nunyabusiness2191
      @nunyabusiness2191 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@whateverthisis3929 this one is my smaller bank. I have 2500ah 48v total..i use for power and central air water heater and heating in spring and fall

  • @swampdonkeyoffgrid190
    @swampdonkeyoffgrid190 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing will, good work ! I learn something with every vid, thanks !

  • @asherajja4206
    @asherajja4206 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice I needed to see this because I need to build one of these to power a glass shop and kiln.

  • @brothertyler
    @brothertyler 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice, I just built one with 280Ah cells, $2300 delivered with no problems. OYE store. Nice welded studs. Mine has been working great for months. Just ordered another 16 cells for a 28kWh pack.

  • @mhspear
    @mhspear 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've got 16 of the grade a batteries, building a 24v system. We are in a 5R, and are power hogs. Right now we're just building the system to see where can put and how it goes. Got a little under $2500 (200ah batteries) into so far, also using the overkill bms. I watch your videos, pause and take notes, want to thank you for what you do. We got room on roof for about 12 panels, our ac in basement, only 3 vents on roof, about 300sf for panels. So might use the used panels you had in a previous vid. Also using same container, but smaller, we put a barrier around the packs and then expanded foam in bottom of tote so they won't shift, batteries can be lifted out if necessary. Cause 5Rer's move.

    • @Mr1DANBOY
      @Mr1DANBOY 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wouldn’t go with used panels if your that limited on space. Get the best panels that fit maybe even bifacial panels especially if your roof is white.

  • @SedatedByLife
    @SedatedByLife 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Makes me wish I could scrounge up $11k and get off the grid completely lol. This system would easily handle my usage 😊

    • @Kineth1
      @Kineth1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @Glitch Inthematrix And energy production from nuclear fusion is only 10 years away.
      And it has been 10 years away for like the last 60 years.

    • @skm9420
      @skm9420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @yougotservedyo in my opinion it pays for it self as soon as you turn it on and you have energy independence

    • @marioalvarezvilla2464
      @marioalvarezvilla2464 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sell your car

    • @LEOhopeful
      @LEOhopeful 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Glitch Inthematrix with the US gov't currently hounding Chinese solar panels...it'll be a while
      But you can easily find used 335 watt paela for ~$100, just look

    • @vanderumd11
      @vanderumd11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How many years would 11k pay your Bill??

  • @ltnguyen1210
    @ltnguyen1210 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are a very impressive human being. Keep up the great work.

  • @sergeyblinov4957
    @sergeyblinov4957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for excellent videos, Will!
    It seems, that flexible busbars will better fits for cell interconnections in the battery - it eliminates of expansion/contaction forces application to stud/busbar connections.

    • @mfgxl
      @mfgxl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They call those cables

    • @sergeyblinov4957
      @sergeyblinov4957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mfgxl, you mean short cable jumpers with cable lugs at its ends? Because, there are special flexible insulated busbars exists, which do not require cable lugs. These are avaible from Schneider Electric and othe brands.

  • @YashYogi
    @YashYogi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. Young and smart. Very smart. I’m so glad that you are so much into the subject and lot of knowledge. I want to really thank you for putting up this video and also looking forward to see more videos from you. God Bless and Cheers.

  • @DSmartLife
    @DSmartLife 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Will, thanks for the video and the test results. I'm also concerned about those studs. The base of the welded studs seem small and the contact area with the bus bar is relatively low. Can you let us know if the circular base of the studs are steel or aluminum? If it's steel then it's going to be a problem. Another thing we must note is that they might have welded the studs, not for our convenience, but to hide the scratched/used terminals from prior usage. Thanks in advance!

  • @joeeggfromleigh
    @joeeggfromleigh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rearrange the letters of Will's last name and you get "Powers". Will Powers! Love your videos man. They are super informative and candid. By far thee best channel on the topic!!

  • @mikenewman4078
    @mikenewman4078 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have purchased 64 of these cells. To compensate for slots in the bus bars I fitted brass washers below the busbar and contact washers under the nuts. To stabilised the connections I clamped them with bandit.
    All my internal resistance were well below the list from Catl. They are allegedly grade A but some are slightly bulged. I top balanced and also fitted 2 amp active balance units to each pack. In time they hold a few millivolts.
    I have a spreadsheet of all the initial values if anyone wants it.

  • @stewartoonagh
    @stewartoonagh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    May you flourish now and in the future.

  • @jaminoes_
    @jaminoes_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best DIY Solar Channel bar none.

  • @RRyyas
    @RRyyas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I built my own 12V 280Ah battery inside a group 31 battery box using cells from Aliexpress about two months ago. They arrived with slight bloating, about 2mm gap between the cells, so it wasn't as bloated as your setup. I also bought a 200a daly smart bms for the cells at the same time. So far the battery has performed pretty well, have hooked up a 2000W inverter to them and the voltage drop was about 350 mV at 175A. Still a great difference between two sealed lead acid batteries which i had before and my current setup.

    • @williamvaughan1218
      @williamvaughan1218 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can't believe how expensive the empty battery boxes are right now.

    • @AOLITHIUMBATTERY
      @AOLITHIUMBATTERY 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hi ,this is Aolithium battery ,we have some EVE battery cell in the stock right now ,3.2v 105/230/280/304 Ah with competitive price ,let me know if you need some

  • @kodywillnauer9422
    @kodywillnauer9422 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I wish I had like 1% the knowledge of electricity and power management you have. I’ll keep watching to learn the other 99.5% 😁

    • @4philipp
      @4philipp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Don’t just watch, build a small system yourself. You’d be amazed that the learning curve when you connect a little knowledge with actual practical application.

    • @kodywillnauer9422
      @kodywillnauer9422 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@4philipp I have been more into soldering and power projects this year but on a tinkercad scale. Right now I am building a fume extractor and will stick to small 12v projects. Just not comfortable enough with electricity to try a larger scale project.

  • @jimsteele7108
    @jimsteele7108 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This was so over my head. But still interesting none the less.

    • @Solkre82
      @Solkre82 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Watch his earlier videos it's not as complicated as it looks.

  • @maddpharmer2045
    @maddpharmer2045 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome video this is exactly what I was talking about.

  • @GregBird
    @GregBird 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And here's me waffling about buying a 100Ah for my camper... lol. All joking aside, your videos are a HUGE help for nOObs like me who really are totally new to battery technology, especially when it comes to Lithium. There are so many makes and suppliers out there now it is hard to try to decide where to start. Your videos help a lot.
    Killer system WIll, I wish I had the spare $$ to put in a setup 1/2 that good in my place.

  • @williamvaughan1218
    @williamvaughan1218 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty awesome system. A far cry from the motorhome back in the day!

  • @andersangstrom6920
    @andersangstrom6920 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Had you considered adding bypass diodes in between cells to allow them to balance on every charge cycle? Is there any concern with that type of cell chemistry overheating and causing a thermal runaway, or fire propagating from one cell to the next? If so, you could put some thermal barriers in between, which would also provide the cells some room to expand.

  • @kricklasalty8599
    @kricklasalty8599 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, very nice! I have no idea what is going on yet interesting!
    I plan to get ur book Will, i expect that will bring me up to speed!!!

  • @wesleyofficer1237
    @wesleyofficer1237 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow what a system! That's a serious lithium battery! Can't wait to see the other "secret" battery 😃😃😃

  • @zen1752
    @zen1752 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent advice and review. Love your channel. Well done! All the best. Zen

  • @robertsharp4471
    @robertsharp4471 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is awesome. I bought a set like this a month ago from aliexpress.

  • @AB-C1
    @AB-C1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Will! I've recommended your channel to another Survivalist TH-camr with a massive following, who's building a small solar system for her off-Grid Solar Van-conversion(one of her many projects!), she may well have been (or possibly will get in touch?) or perhaps just check out your videos, but I recommend you and your channel as the top Solar and Battery channel in my opinion by far!
    Another great video! I'm learning more every video I check out of yours! So I look forward to seeing the results! I'm wanting to build my own system from the information I've learned/knowledge I've gained this past year, from your channel, but money is sticking point at the moment for battery cells and panels, but once that changes, I'm definitely intending to build my own battery bank and solar array to wire (possibly my house/workshop), but Most DEFINITELY an off-grid Van conversion that Im planning next year!(all being well! So thanks for all the information! Keep the great videos coming!!
    Ps. I envy the entire set up you have there powering EVERYTHING you are and are intending to great idea the Bit Coin mining to heat the workshop!! (Genius Win win situation there!!) Great stuff!
    Best regards from London England 👍💪😎🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @teotwawki_je
    @teotwawki_je 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Would it be worth making insulated links so that every adjacent pair of cells is bolted at both ends?
    That would aid mechanical stability.

  • @alexbauman9406
    @alexbauman9406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good day Will. Could you please consider investigating graphene batteries? It is a fascinating potentially new tech addition. Your experience and understanding could really help people who are waiting for these batteries before adding solar backups with lithium batts. Thanks for the informative videos!

  • @PrescottCaliberClub
    @PrescottCaliberClub 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have 16 280ah on their way. They claimed grade A. Fingers crossed. Thanks for the video.

  • @arendadadovanbeek6335
    @arendadadovanbeek6335 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really love the idea of coinminers as heating.

  • @feroz576
    @feroz576 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching your video from Bangladesh. I always watch your video. It is very informative.
    Thanks for your advice and great effort.

  • @tub1965
    @tub1965 ปีที่แล้ว

    great channel, just what I needed!

  • @louzazolsboatsstuff3604
    @louzazolsboatsstuff3604 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will I just ordered 16 Grade A (brand new) 320Ah batteries from Aliexpress. I gotta tell you I am super nervous about what I'm going to get. Anyway, watching your 48v battery build really helped me to pull the trigger on the whole DIY build. Thanks and please keep the videos coming.

  • @SolarCruiserDude
    @SolarCruiserDude 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This dude is a solar and battery electricity God!

  • @user-ty9lt4ck6c
    @user-ty9lt4ck6c 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hi, Will. Thank you for sharing, it's really awesome. I'd like to ask you if it's safe to use such a bloated cells, that contract and expand so insanely. With regard to busbars and mounts and that internal compression issues. I mean they may not have the advertised capacity, but more than enough to cause a mayhem. What do you think?

    • @WillProwse
      @WillProwse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It could blow the valve one day, but it is lifepo4, so not a big deal. I would never do this with a combustible chemistry. Lifepo4 and LTO is all I work with for this reason. I used to use other battery types, but those will burn your house down.

    • @bumpstart21
      @bumpstart21 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WillProwse Older video but seeing how cells may eventually start swelling it seems braided buss bars are the only way to go.

  • @georgegates526
    @georgegates526 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whooly Cow!! What a monster power supply!!!!

  • @1234c0le
    @1234c0le 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well now I'm expecting a battery reveal video for those unreleased ones you are testing!

  • @skylinevspec000
    @skylinevspec000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you do a video of how you add additional packs to your system? for example how to add the 320ah cells to an existing 250ah pack and maybe an existing 200ah pack too

  • @dbmiller5881
    @dbmiller5881 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    regarding the BMS - could you have used a larger one (eg: 20s BMS) and just doubled up the last few leads?

  • @justdoityourself7134
    @justdoityourself7134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I've been running a very similar pack of grade b bloated cells for 6 months (16KWH). No trouble. But I found better suppliers and get grade A cells for the same price. No bloating. Built a 64KWH grade A at same price per WH as my first grade B system.

    • @jeffr7558
      @jeffr7558 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What suppliers do you recommend?

    • @con-king
      @con-king 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Could you give a link to the grade A cells you bought?

    • @justdoityourself7134
      @justdoityourself7134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@con-king ​ @Jeff R Great question. I don't know if there is a simple way to put this, but I don't know if it is as much a matter of supplier as it is context. The same supplier might treat people differently. A lot of them are supply constrained and are selling grade B to get by when they are out of stock on grade A.
      Don't just buy a random item listing. You need to establish a relationship with a representative at the supplier by contacting them directly.
      It takes time, first you buy a sample with a larger order contingent on the quality.
      Pooling a few orders together to make a larger one puts you at the front of the line.
      This sets the context that it is not worth the trouble trying to pull one over on you.
      Good Luck.

    • @dcuste
      @dcuste 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@justdoityourself7134 I'm game. How much do you charge for a killer deal with your supplier?

  • @ryanatkinson2978
    @ryanatkinson2978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lots of great info. For a while I thought large capacity battery banks were just out of budget for me since I don't make much. I didn't realize that you could buy these used ones

    • @deejnutz2068
      @deejnutz2068 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's pretty incredible. I'm building a 14kwh power station for my parents RV. It's all wired into a breaker that sits inside the electrical compartment, then they run a 50amp plug into the RV shore power and charge the batteries with a generator using a growatt 5 in one.
      The whole system is less than $3k

    • @ryanatkinson2978
      @ryanatkinson2978 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deejnutz2068 that's crazy hahaha. I'm thinking of adding some extra range to my 60 mile range Chevy Spark EV. If I can figure out some way to add the batteries in parallel without the car noticing that would be great

    • @ahaveland
      @ahaveland 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ryanatkinson2978 Don't even *think* about breaking apart a car's battery pack, messing with 400V DC and trying to add your own cells. You would be a danger to yourself and others on the roads too. If you must, then carry extra batteries to run an inverter to charge the car if you can't find a charging station.
      Better option - just get a car with more capacity.

  • @V4NLIFE_CANADA
    @V4NLIFE_CANADA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    10:49 most 2021 thing I've heared so far 🤣

  • @keything8487
    @keything8487 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video....thanks for sharing this info !!

  • @errolsmith5634
    @errolsmith5634 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thumbs up for those speakers. They are a 2.1 beast

    • @WillProwse
      @WillProwse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My middle name is Errol. Cool to see you have the same name. And yeah, they are awesome speakers

  • @taulli1
    @taulli1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! This is off topic, but I am trying to find a rapid shutdown video, to see if there is a DIY option to comply with local processes? Thank you for all you do.

  • @guntodd
    @guntodd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nicely done ✅

  • @dannylam5112
    @dannylam5112 ปีที่แล้ว

    I recently building a 12V 4 cells LiFePo battery to replace my lead acid battery for my boat. I bought from Taobo (Chinese version of Ali Express) from a company Jiali Technology. Cells are grade A and arrived in mint condition. The price is RMB 680 (USD 99) for one 310Ah cell. They can provide stronger packaging box for extra (USD $4). The problem I encountered is delivery from China to HK. Many courier companies refused to deliver lithium batteries. End of the day it has to be delivered to my friends home in Shenzhen China and I picked up myself and use a cross border van to deliver to HK. The delivery of the cells to my friend’s home is 3 days after placing order. Lucky I lived in HK and not US. I repeat an oder for 4 more cells yesterday.

  • @princeeze9414
    @princeeze9414 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice work bro

  • @SuperVstech
    @SuperVstech 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The forum has discussions on the aluminum cells, in addition to compression, or at least solid frame lockdown, they are concerned about electrically insulating separator between cells.
    Are you not concerned for the wrap leakage?

    • @WillProwse
      @WillProwse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I could but I've seen plenty of packs work fine without it. High vibration environment, then yeah. That would be smart idea.

  • @polvincompoundsadmin5402
    @polvincompoundsadmin5402 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have worked out how to use my Victron smart shunt to do capacity tests! Previously it shuts down and loses its reading when the bms shuts down- so Now I connect the smart shunt to the battery, then the BMS. So when the bms shuts down you can still see the A/h on the smart shunt!

  • @nabilriahi4019
    @nabilriahi4019 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks from Malta

  • @maciekharanczyk8953
    @maciekharanczyk8953 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great content.
    Do I see correctly that you have parallel-connected the new batter with a batter of another type ? Isn't it a problem ?

  • @8kgamerleo169
    @8kgamerleo169 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey your videos are the best keep on the awsome work. You should open up a lossigy 24v battery.

  • @zacharyquack1046
    @zacharyquack1046 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Love the attitude towards the battery and result. You’re going to make a few purists stroke out but that’s why I love these videos. Keep it real mate.

  • @scoleri
    @scoleri 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Im building a very similar system. Waiting for batteries. Since there’ll take so long I think I’m gonna get 2 MPP LVX6548WPs. Can’t wait to build. I wonder if you top balanced - don’t forget to do another capacity test on those in a month.

  • @gymcoachdon
    @gymcoachdon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I first started looking at LiFePO4 as an option for sailboats, $11,000 was low for a small system for a sailboat!

  • @theprinceofecom3364
    @theprinceofecom3364 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol bro that size battery bank is great for almost any house in Jamaica. I'm gonna look into getting these and offering them in the systems my company builds and sells down here

  • @patoldude
    @patoldude 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love your videos even though some of it goes over my head but I’m learning.
    I would love to build a battery system for my house that has solar that feeds to the grid because the likes of the tesla battery is just very expensive but I need to learn more before heading down this path.

    • @bingosunnoon9341
      @bingosunnoon9341 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A cheap or "repurposed" battery pack isn't worth having. Reconditioned batteries are not worth having either.

  • @jess-2-good
    @jess-2-good 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you tell us what capacity tester and program you used? Love your content BTW

  • @marklawrence54
    @marklawrence54 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im new to the solar power. Thank you for teaching and reviews you have done. One question please, if i have 200 ah lithium battery, how much wattage from the solar panels do i need? Thanks again

  • @damageben8325
    @damageben8325 ปีที่แล้ว

    HI, did you just connected the new battery direct on the old battery to charge? like a parallel connection? or did I miss something.
    is it oke to have 2 different battery's in parallel to an inverter? like 1 pack is 10kw and the other 15kw?
    great videos I learn a lot. I'm planning on making a 48v offgrid solar bank.
    Thanks

  • @sevans66
    @sevans66 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will is going to power all of Nevada soon... this is awesome

  • @JRP3
    @JRP3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The prismatic cells from Sky Energy/Calb and Thundersky/Winston always came with bolts and end plates to apply significant clamping force.

    • @WillProwse
      @WillProwse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes of course. Those need it. I hated using those.

    • @mghuertas
      @mghuertas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dont over tight these studs they broke easily

    • @JRP3
      @JRP3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I also share his concern with the small contact area of the studs, especially with large cells that could put out high currents.

  • @chasmarischen4459
    @chasmarischen4459 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like your channel, You have an AWESOME set-up. So I hope Nevada changes the rain catch systems to be legal in the near future. Walmart raised the price of a gallon of distilled water from 80 to 98 cents. 'Distilled' is the best way to insure 'safe' water. Good luck.

  • @unionse7en
    @unionse7en 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    flexible cable or humped bars seems like the way to go

  • @mmax777
    @mmax777 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work bro....

  • @tao4409
    @tao4409 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Overkill is now selling a 16 cell BMS. Just a heads up. :)

  • @antunezcarlos
    @antunezcarlos 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, Your videos are great!!
    Do you mind tell us how may Solar Panels we would need for this system?
    Thank you

  • @mikebee969
    @mikebee969 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video. Thank you

  • @johnarmstead4177
    @johnarmstead4177 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am so happy for you...

  • @tiltforce
    @tiltforce 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Will,
    I have a question and maybe you can do a video about this topic. A lot of all-in one inverters will only work with the batteries if they have a RS485 connection. Do you know about any BMS with a build in RS485 port that will communicate with the most known inverters? And what setting do you use for your Growatt inverter when you connect your DIY lifepo4 batteri banks?

  • @mikebruns1300
    @mikebruns1300 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As for the 2 BMS units. What amperes were the 2 BMS units? I cannot get enough of this stuff. Keep up the great work.

  • @richardf9137
    @richardf9137 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are one smart young man!

  • @honeybadger6127
    @honeybadger6127 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    could you do a video on just BMSs that we can use for various voltages?

  • @bill2292
    @bill2292 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Will. Are any all in ones recommended for use on a sailboat?

    • @sailingelectricgitana1286
      @sailingelectricgitana1286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I built something almost exactly like this except only 100ah for my sailboat. I looked at Gill battery packs, but had already built mine.