These batteries can be found here (affiliate links): 100Ah: trophybattery.com/index.php/product/48v100e-1-2/?ref=h-cvbzfahsek 220Ah: trophybattery.com/index.php/product/48v220c-1/?ref=h-cvbzfahsek 304Ah: trophybattery.com/index.php/product/48v304e-1/?ref=h-cvbzfahsek Other Server Rack Batteries: www.mobile-solarpower.com/server-rack-lifepo4.html 48V off grid system: www.mobile-solarpower.com/48v-complete-system-blueprint.html *Does off-grid solar confuse you?* Check out my DIY friendly website for solar system packages and product recommendations, and so much more! www.mobile-solarpower.com *Join our DIY solar community!* #1 largest solar forum on the internet for beginners and professionals alike: www.diysolarforum.com Check out my best-selling, beginner-friendly 12V off-grid solar book (affiliate link): amzn.to/2Aj4dX4 If DIY is not for you, but you love solar and need an offgrid system, check out EnergyPal! They will price out a system and get your house offgrid: energypal.com/diysolar/ *My Solar Equipment Recommendations (Constantly updated! Check here first):* 12V/48V Lithium Batteries: www.mobile-solarpower.com/solar-batteries.html Solar System Component Directory: www.mobile-solarpower.com/solarcomponents.html Complete 48V System Blueprint: www.mobile-solarpower.com/48v-complete-system-blueprint.html Plug-N-Play Systems: www.mobile-solarpower.com/full-size-systems.html Complete 48V System Kits: www.mobile-solarpower.com/complete-48v-solar-kits.html DIY Friendly Air Conditioner/ Heat Pumps: www.mobile-solarpower.com/solar-friendly-air-conditioners.html *My Favorite Online Stores for DIY Solar Products:* *Signature Solar* Offgrid One-Stop-Shop. Best Value 48V LiFePO4, Victron and Offgrid Specific Heat Pumps: www.signaturesolar.com/?ref=h-cvbzfahsek *Current Connected* SOK, Victron, Mr.Cool Heatpumps and High Quality Components: currentconnected.com/?ref=wp *Ecoflow Delta* My favorite plug-n-play solar generator: us.ecoflow.com/?aff=7 *AmpereTime* Cheapest 12V batteries around: amperetime.com/products/ampere-time-12v-100ah-lithium-lifepo4-battery?ref=h-cvbzfahsek *Renogy* A classic 12V solar store that has been around for ages! renogy.sjv.io/n1VjXx *Rich Solar* Renogy's biggest competitor! Similar products, but at a better price: richsolar.com/?ref=h-cvbzfahsek *Battery Hookup* Cheap cell deals bit.ly/2mIxSqt 5% off code: diysolar *Contact Information:* I am NOT available for personal solar system consult! If you wish to contact me, this is my direct email: williamprowsediysolar@gmail.com Join the forum at diysolarforum.com/ if you wish to hang out with myself and others and talk about solar *FTC Disclosure Statement and Disclaimers:* Every video includes some form of paid promotion or sponsorship. Some links on this youtube channel may be affiliate links. We may get paid if you buy something or take an action after clicking one of these. My videos are for educational purposes only. Information is subject to change/update at any time. Electricity is DANGEROUS and can kill. Be smart and use common sense :) DIY Solar Power with Will Prowse is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, An affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com
While back I bought whole trailer with solar panels and forklift like batteries. I'll be setting that up with eg4 I would love to get your input on that setup. It's gonna be interesting to see how it will go.
I want to give HUGE kudo's to Trophy batteries! I got 6x batteries based on Will's previous videos and after talking with Dan. My batteries were shipped and unfortunately 2 of them were damaged in shipping. He was already coming my way and Dan literally drove 8 hours in his personal vehicle (2 hours out of his way each way) and hand delivered replacement batteries to me! I was blown away by this level of customer service. Absolutely, hands down the best customer service in my entire life!!! Cannot say enough good things about this company. Give them a look and based on my experience, I am sure you won't be disappointed!
I have had 6 of these for almost a year. They have been amazing in my unheated shed in the mountains. I've had some issues with remote monitoring/comms l, but Dan has been super responsive in helping me resolve it. I like that Trophy is just batteries and not trying to sell all kinds of other stuff.
@@silverleapers They won't start charging until the internal temperature gets above freezing. The heaters only work when they are being actively charged, usually from the sun, but they don't store any power until the temp is sufficient, at which time they stop heating and start charging.
I do small off grid installs for friends/relatives and your videos are the most comprehensive and easy to understand videos on the internet. Keep up the awesome work man.
It would be useful to hear more about the communications interfaces on these units and others. Getting battery states and charge/discharge rates into Home Assistant would be a must-have for me.
These seem like a great deal, and alternative to some of the other server rack batteries. And I love that they go up to ~300 AH, as I think I could manage on just one of the 304 AH packs. Great info, great video Will!
Absolutely agree with everything you said. I bought these. Completely happy. Dan is a really nice guy. My only wish is that the front switch was in the middle under the screen. The only reason is that I use a bus bar, and the switch gets in the way a bit. I would also like the terminal screws to be a half inch longer for my thicker bus bar. I don’t think that would be a problem for the way most people do it.
One thing I do wish battery makers would do more are 12V batteries with the same features as these rack mounts: On off button, Pre-charge Resistors, built in SOC meters. I think EG4 has 1 that is 12V like this, but no one else. It would make creating small electricity back up systems SO much easier.
The issue is the lower voltages require much higher current; which means larger conductor sizes to handle the amperage load. Stuff gets pricey when you start adding components for 12V high amperage; your total build for amount of watt hours prices you out the market.
Smart 12V batteries with Bluetooth and an app do exist. They cost more usually. LiTime has a new 12V battery with a power button that gives some diagnostic info too.
Signature Solar has a server rack battery that is 12V at 400Ah. Same dimensions as their 24V and 48V rack batteries, just a different BMS. You may wanna check into them.
@@Aerogrowthat may be a “fact” - 12V is needing larger cabling per 1000W all else being equal. But a couple feet of heavy cable isn’t going to mean you have to sell one of the kids or something. Sometimes 12V is handy or like with an RV necessary.
@@fishhuntadventure yea, ended building my own with a BMS from overkill solar for a RV trailer years ago. Probably better ones out there now. Overall looking to upgrade to 48V system now; lots of things get easier with smaller conductors inside system.
Thanks Will. Nice overview. I do like the ability to replace cells if needed though. You did not mention Inverter comms compatibility with the Trophy BMS. Is it CAN or RS485, and Pylontec or other proprietary protocol? How do they handle load sharing when in parallel? That would be an interesting test. Would love to see them talking to your MPP LV6548's also!
Once again Will you have done it. What a great video. Thank you so much. I only wished I would of known this 5 years ago when I built my 24 volt system. Well now it just might be time to upgrade to a 48 volt system. I acquired another place in Southern Utah Near Lake Powell. So I am going to start planning a new system. Thank you again for all of your knowledge and help. You Rock
Great video! We have three 100Ah Trophy batteries in our bus and love them. I accidentally had our first one shipped to our billing address in Minnesota while we were in Colorado and I didn't notice my mistake until the shipment was in transit. Dan took care of having it shipped to the correct address with the quickest customer service I've ever received.
@@mikejohnson7768 the 300Ah is brand new and wasn't available when we purchased our batteries. We have been using ours for 9 months already and still love them.
Damn those are great for the prices, love the competition coming out now. I already started with EG4 so I'll stick to those until I build a separate system (which seems inevitable as my needs grow)
Hah, Dan @ Trophy sent you the pictures of my setup that you used in your video. Cool. As a FYI, those are five of the 304Ah Trophy batteries, which I built an insulated box around, as these are used in an unheated shed at 9300 feet altitude in the mountains of Colorado. So yes, it does get cold here. As for communication with Victron gear. So far Dan and I have not been able to get the 304Ah to talk to my Victron Cerbo GX unfortunately. As you said, indeed, Dan is just great to work with!
You are too powerful ! Your mere word can crash vendors sites ! Thanks for the great video. I like simple. I like well built. I like heavy duty. I like doing something and never having to worry about it, never have to come back to it. Three of these on the floor and I'm done. Can't get easier.
Hi will thanks for your vids I am in the uk and find it hard for any self build kits that look like quality products i have found growatt and victron but the suppliers are very reluctant to sell any kits without the doing the install which is frustrating thanks again keep up the good work thanks jp
great vid will. Perfect timing of find this vid, we need to replace some 48v AGM 400a we have now. These will be out in a unheated shop inside insulated box. should still work.
Hi Will! I’ve started to watch your videos a few months ago. Thanks a lot for your daily effort to bring us always new and relevant information! I’m from Portugal and most of the times my struggle is to find a vendor who ships to europe/Portugal. My goal is to design a system for my future house, that would use most of the time energy from photovoltaic panels / batteries to support all the loads and only get from grid the delta energy. So I would apreciate a video taking this in consideration.
Thank you so mch WTG, you're amazing as usual in what you do. For the last few years, I have been dealing with Discovery AES batteries. I really wish you could look into them. The only ones that can be flown on a plane and you can mount them upside down too, to make an easy connection with the next battery. 2,000 amp @ 24 Volt & 6,550 amp @ 48 volt. Thx Will, wishing you a wonderful new year.
$1000 per Kwh.....the BattleBorn of large LiFeP04 batteries. The name of the game is $300 per Kwh. Raw 280Ah LiFeP04 cells come out at $120 per Kwh when you buy 16 of them. Not EV grade so this is where the price point Trophy is at makes sense. I guess there's a market for Discovery AES though
Great video as always. You are right with the fact that those batteries are underrated. I like the fact that they use higher capacity cells, then limit them to pull an intended capacity. That in my opinion puts less strain on the cells and make them last longer. Thanks Will.
One of the things I like about these is they're a standard rack unit height (the 220Ah one is 5RU according to their manual) and it looks like the mounting holes in the front panel are at standard spacing. Most of the other rack batteries AREN'T a standard size. It is a pity they aren't UL certified though.
I have been looking at different battery setups before buying. i already have a 6 Kw grid tie system. These Trophy batteries so far are the top of my list. The 10 year non-prorated warranty is a very good selling point. Also considering some of the better batteries are 48v 100ah at about $2400 compared to Trophy 48v 304ah at $4600. Which makes Trophy more economical.
I bought a Trophy battery specifically for the convenience of internal heaters. Note that the heaters are not manually operated. The heaters work automatically and only when charging power is available. The heaters do not operate on stored energy so they will not drain the battery. My battery is in an unheated shed and it has done pretty well as long as the sun cooperates. I actually used the crate it was shipped in as an insulated rack. The % state of charge does not seem accurate. I was at 39% and I plugged in my 500 watt block heater for my truck for an hour and a half and found the battery went into safe mode due to under voltage. By my math it should have had something left. It was -20F so I guess that had something to do with it. Also I haven't found a way to get it to communicate with my Growatt inverter, but it works OK as a dumb battery. It works fine and it has been idiot proof so far.
Hey Will, thanks for these insightful and inspiring videos. There's always something to learn! I am curious if there is any chance you can test/review the trendy lifepo4 blade cells. Looking forward to get your opinion on those.
I've got several lfp batteries from different companies and also have experience with building with bare cells. I've started with cells and switched to pre-built rack/powerwalls but I'm starting to gravitate back towards the bare cells with a JBD 16S BMS that can work with (for example) Growatt inverters. It's so much cheaper at
🤓 OSHA Officer Killroy here: I would like to know where your tie off point was while on that table, How did you assess the table, where is your harness, when was harness inspected? By whom?....🤣😂 Another great video with most useful information, that's why I keep coming back, to see what's new and to see the pros and cons. Thanks again Will
You talking about Dan . Dan seems like someone is older generation with skills instilled in him. Customer service , maybe a engineering degree and old school simplicity. He knows how to keep cost down ! Kinda reminds me of my dad in his business when people ask if he took PayPal , lol...He always did checks and wire transfers . Wait to see more on these batterie's.
Hi Will! I enjoy watching your videos about off-grid stuff, i JUST got my panels, inverter etc. installed, still have to setup Lan/wifi. Im just wondering if u have any recommendations of vendors on aliexpress that has grade A cells and overall good/decent quality. Keep up the good work man and would like to see some off-grid rv stuff.
I have 3 of the 100ah batteries. They are mounted in my unheated shed in northern lower Michigan.I have had these since June and my only issue is some sort of remote state of charge as I have an Outback system an have struggled with consistent automation of my generator (worked perfectly with my AGMs). I would love a video talking about options for remote state of charge as no one seems to want to give me suggestions. Through many phone calls it seems to be an issue not quite dealt with yet! These batteries are incredible!!!!
Couldn’t agree more. I would love if someone would do a video about how to charge these batteries if solar panels aren’t hooked up and you are off grid.
@@bigbad27 I have solar array also……. the generator is backup for long stretches of over cast. The solar panels charge these batteries shockingly fast! 😉
I couldn't get my Trophy battery to communicate with my Growatt inverter. If works ok, but it might work better if I could figure out the communication. Mine is also in an unheated shed.
I have an Outback system my system will not communicate with these either. It would be AWSOME to have a stand alone state of charge display that connects with RJ45 jacks just for peace of mind. By the way made it thru a northern Michigan winter and the internal heaters worked perfectly! 😎🥶
Hello Will, Love the videos, been watching for years. Thank you. Would you recommend a Trophy rack battery for van use? (w/ Victron inverter (with shore power switching a nd battery charging from mains)? also a Victron solar charge controller, with the 900watts of panels on the roof already? and how would you address charging from alternator when van is running? Would I be able to charge from an EV car charging station? thx again. Matt
Sup Will, just wondering if at a later date coving subjects like GFCI protection devices, SPD’s and wiring equipment. It’s not a very sexy topic I admit, but I’d love to hear your take on the subject at some point. Love the channel btw!
I prefer the DeWalt storage rack over a server rack. I find that the steel used on the bolt rails is too thin and you need to use a rack with rear rails as well. One needs to create a shelf between the front and rear supports and slide the packs onto the shelves. Get too high and you need to bolt the server rack to the floor and wall. You also need a safe lifting device to get packs into place.
hi Will, please consider doing a review on the Mango Power e portable whole house backup system - it has gotten a lot of positive reviews from many TH-cam reviewers, but we would like to hear your honest and unbiased review.
What brand of Inverter and charge controller do they work with? I am interested in if the work with EG4 and Victron Inverters and Charge controllers. Thanks for a great video
Around the 13min mark you state these are EV grade UL Listed but earlier I thought you said they were not UL listed which may prohibit grid interaction. Are you referring to the cells that are UL listed but the server rack units are not UL listed? Thanks (Awesome videos, keep up the great work)
When the battery is oriented vertically, I would expect large tension/compression loads on the welded bus bars. Either slightly long or slightly short. The weight/ moment arm of those heavy cells on the bus bar will eventually cause fatigue. Or with small expansion/ contraction of the cells in normal use.
Yeah this was my concern a few years ago and then we talked to the manufacturers and said it's totally fine. If it breaks within 10 years then you get a brand new one. If you saw what I do to my batteries, I think it's safe to say that it can handle it haha
Will, I use 4" long sections of electrical heat shrink tubing to protect disconnected battery cables. I tape up one end of the tube with electrical tape, leave one end open to slide in the lug. I use tubing that is a snug fit so it cannot just slide off. I figure if it is safe enough to use on electrical connections, it should be safe to use as insulation when disconnecting batteries.
These batteries can be found here (affiliate links):
100Ah: trophybattery.com/index.php/product/48v100e-1-2/?ref=h-cvbzfahsek
220Ah: trophybattery.com/index.php/product/48v220c-1/?ref=h-cvbzfahsek
304Ah: trophybattery.com/index.php/product/48v304e-1/?ref=h-cvbzfahsek
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*Ecoflow Delta*
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*AmpereTime*
Cheapest 12V batteries around:
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Haha you broke their website. MySQL is at the max connections.
@@nick-leffler fiddlesticks. Was scared that would happen
@@WillProwse I called and let them know.
While back I bought whole trailer with solar panels and forklift like batteries. I'll be setting that up with eg4 I would love to get your input on that setup. It's gonna be interesting to see how it will go.
No tax credit in Taxachussetts unless everything is installed by a licensed electrician.
So the savings just goes to pay the electrician...
I want to give HUGE kudo's to Trophy batteries! I got 6x batteries based on Will's previous videos and after talking with Dan. My batteries were shipped and unfortunately 2 of them were damaged in shipping. He was already coming my way and Dan literally drove 8 hours in his personal vehicle (2 hours out of his way each way) and hand delivered replacement batteries to me! I was blown away by this level of customer service. Absolutely, hands down the best customer service in my entire life!!! Cannot say enough good things about this company. Give them a look and based on my experience, I am sure you won't be disappointed!
When a business cares... 👍👍
"These are not flashy batteries, the do not have bright colours or bright logos." This is *_not_* a downside. 😀
Agreed!! I care mostly about longevity & storage capacity. Cosmetics i could care less about
I have had 6 of these for almost a year. They have been amazing in my unheated shed in the mountains. I've had some issues with remote monitoring/comms l, but Dan has been super responsive in helping me resolve it. I like that Trophy is just batteries and not trying to sell all kinds of other stuff.
Can they charge while heating/discharging?
@@silverleapers They won't start charging until the internal temperature gets above freezing. The heaters only work when they are being actively charged, usually from the sun, but they don't store any power until the temp is sufficient, at which time they stop heating and start charging.
I do small off grid installs for friends/relatives and your videos are the most comprehensive and easy to understand videos on the internet. Keep up the awesome work man.
What state are you in?
@@marvinsalee7134 maine
@@mackenziehaines1976 cool. I'm in KY and I do the same. No electrician license needed here yet. How about main?
@@marvinsalee7134 i wire everything up until the AC output, then I let an electrician do the rest
Agreed
I wish my wife looked at me the way Will looks at the guts of a server rack battery.
😂😂😂
LMAO 😆
You’re just not very electrifying!
Wow man.... You got a BIG 'OL belly laugh outta me!!!!
Great to see that you're still going strong! Checking out these batteries today... thanks!
Bought the Trophy 48v 200ah last summer fir my RV. It's perfect!
It would be useful to hear more about the communications interfaces on these units and others. Getting battery states and charge/discharge rates into Home Assistant would be a must-have for me.
Thanks Will. As always, your straightforward, in-depth review is much appreciated!
Those are maximum juicy! Love them. I like the singular approach of their company. Thx for sharing.
These seem like a great deal, and alternative to some of the other server rack batteries. And I love that they go up to ~300 AH, as I think I could manage on just one of the 304 AH packs. Great info, great video Will!
What all do you plan to run on 300ah?
@ÃTrollÄššÑigga too bad you do not have access to wood... I use a Froling boiler and I live off the grid with 4 kw pannels.
You always come across as a very informative and honest young man. ❤️
Absolutely agree with everything you said. I bought these. Completely happy. Dan is a really nice guy. My only wish is that the front switch was in the middle under the screen. The only reason is that I use a bus bar, and the switch gets in the way a bit. I would also like the terminal screws to be a half inch longer for my thicker bus bar. I don’t think that would be a problem for the way most people do it.
Thank you Will ,with honest assessment of all solar products.
Great job on the pros and cons Will, I don’t think you know how much people depend on your knowledge and analysis, thank You!
Report the scammer to you tube
One thing I do wish battery makers would do more are 12V batteries with the same features as these rack mounts: On off button, Pre-charge Resistors, built in SOC meters. I think EG4 has 1 that is 12V like this, but no one else. It would make creating small electricity back up systems SO much easier.
The issue is the lower voltages require much higher current; which means larger conductor sizes to handle the amperage load. Stuff gets pricey when you start adding components for 12V high amperage; your total build for amount of watt hours prices you out the market.
Smart 12V batteries with Bluetooth and an app do exist. They cost more usually.
LiTime has a new 12V battery with a power button that gives some diagnostic info too.
Signature Solar has a server rack battery that is 12V at 400Ah. Same dimensions as their 24V and 48V rack batteries, just a different BMS. You may wanna check into them.
@@Aerogrowthat may be a “fact” - 12V is needing larger cabling per 1000W all else being equal. But a couple feet of heavy cable isn’t going to mean you have to sell one of the kids or something. Sometimes 12V is handy or like with an RV necessary.
@@fishhuntadventure yea, ended building my own with a BMS from overkill solar for a RV trailer years ago. Probably better ones out there now.
Overall looking to upgrade to 48V system now; lots of things get easier with smaller conductors inside system.
Thanks. My hubby used echogear server racks (Amazon) for both of his systems.
Thanks every video I watch of yours is a learning experience since I have no idea what I am doing six stars brother
Thanks Will. Nice overview. I do like the ability to replace cells if needed though. You did not mention Inverter comms compatibility with the Trophy BMS. Is it CAN or RS485, and Pylontec or other proprietary protocol? How do they handle load sharing when in parallel? That would be an interesting test. Would love to see them talking to your MPP LV6548's also!
THIS IS MOST LIKELY THE BEST SITE I HAVE FOUND ON THE INTERNET, GREAT JOB . KEEP UP THR GREAT JOB WILL.
Once again Will you have done it. What a great video. Thank you so much. I only wished I would of known this 5 years ago when I built my 24 volt system. Well now it just might be time to upgrade to a 48 volt system. I acquired another place in Southern Utah Near Lake Powell. So I am going to start planning a new system.
Thank you again for all of your knowledge and help.
You Rock
Great video!
We have three 100Ah Trophy batteries in our bus and love them. I accidentally had our first one shipped to our billing address in Minnesota while we were in Colorado and I didn't notice my mistake until the shipment was in transit. Dan took care of having it shipped to the correct address with the quickest customer service I've ever received.
Please tell me why you did not go with the one 300amp hour battery
@@mikejohnson7768 the 300Ah is brand new and wasn't available when we purchased our batteries. We have been using ours for 9 months already and still love them.
I love how you just tell it like it is! Does the Trophy BMS communicate well with my Victron system?
I love the looks of the battery. Very clean.
Fantastic, thank you Will for the review.
Damn those are great for the prices, love the competition coming out now.
I already started with EG4 so I'll stick to those until I build a separate system (which seems inevitable as my needs grow)
As always a enjoyable articulate evaluation - Happy new Year Will - hope you have a gooden !
Hey Merry Christmas, and I'd also like to wish you a wonderful New Year :) Thanks for the great videos!
Hah, Dan @ Trophy sent you the pictures of my setup that you used in your video. Cool. As a FYI, those are five of the 304Ah Trophy batteries, which I built an insulated box around, as these are used in an unheated shed at 9300 feet altitude in the mountains of Colorado. So yes, it does get cold here. As for communication with Victron gear. So far Dan and I have not been able to get the 304Ah to talk to my Victron Cerbo GX unfortunately. As you said, indeed, Dan is just great to work with!
It’s adorable how excited he got when he opened it
Will, your words about Dan and his character not only speaks highly of yours...it was the only thing we needed to hear. Thanks.
You are too powerful ! Your mere word can crash vendors sites ! Thanks for the great video. I like simple. I like well built. I like heavy duty. I like doing something and never having to worry about it, never have to come back to it. Three of these on the floor and I'm done. Can't get easier.
Hi will thanks for your vids I am in the uk and find it hard for any self build kits that look like quality products i have found growatt and victron but the suppliers are very reluctant to sell any kits without the doing the install which is frustrating thanks again keep up the good work thanks jp
great vid will. Perfect timing of find this vid, we need to replace some 48v AGM 400a we have now. These will be out in a unheated shop inside insulated box. should still work.
I bought the 220 AH Trophy Batteries. Happy
wow you really take notice in your pool results :D
Hi Will! I’ve started to watch your videos a few months ago. Thanks a lot for your daily effort to bring us always new and relevant information! I’m from Portugal and most of the times my struggle is to find a vendor who ships to europe/Portugal. My goal is to design a system for my future house, that would use most of the time energy from photovoltaic panels / batteries to support all the loads and only get from grid the delta energy. So I would apreciate a video taking this in consideration.
Happy New Year’s, solar panel guy🎉
Thank you so mch WTG, you're amazing as usual in what you do. For the last few years, I have been dealing with Discovery AES batteries. I really wish you could look into them. The only ones that can be flown on a plane and you can mount them upside down too, to make an easy connection with the next battery. 2,000 amp @ 24 Volt & 6,550 amp @ 48 volt. Thx Will, wishing you a wonderful new year.
$1000 per Kwh.....the BattleBorn of large LiFeP04 batteries.
The name of the game is $300 per Kwh.
Raw 280Ah LiFeP04 cells come out at $120 per Kwh when you buy 16 of them. Not EV grade so this is where the price point Trophy is at makes sense.
I guess there's a market for Discovery AES though
Dan is my solar hero!
Great video as always. You are right with the fact that those batteries are underrated. I like the fact that they use higher capacity cells, then limit them to pull an intended capacity. That in my opinion puts less strain on the cells and make them last longer. Thanks Will.
This is a great video! Would be even better to see how these batteries communicate with Victron Cerbo GX. Any plan to have a video talking about that?
Thanks for all of your hard work!
Awesome video with very good news, I will check them before buy an battery. 👍👍👍
I think you for all of the great information on your channel
Thanks , this great ,we appreciate your opinion again .
One of the things I like about these is they're a standard rack unit height (the 220Ah one is 5RU according to their manual) and it looks like the mounting holes in the front panel are at standard spacing. Most of the other rack batteries AREN'T a standard size. It is a pity they aren't UL certified though.
What part of Michigan are you in?
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Great review, keep them coming!
I have been looking at different battery setups before buying. i already have a 6 Kw grid tie system. These Trophy batteries so far are the top of my list. The 10 year non-prorated warranty is a very good selling point. Also considering some of the better batteries are 48v 100ah at about $2400 compared to Trophy 48v 304ah at $4600. Which makes Trophy more economical.
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ha.. those 304's are the same KWH as my old chevy volt 2.. all in one container.. thats awesome.. thats alot of trons.. keep up the great work Will.
Thanks Will
I bought a Trophy battery specifically for the convenience of internal heaters. Note that the heaters are not manually operated. The heaters work automatically and only when charging power is available. The heaters do not operate on stored energy so they will not drain the battery. My battery is in an unheated shed and it has done pretty well as long as the sun cooperates. I actually used the crate it was shipped in as an insulated rack. The % state of charge does not seem accurate. I was at 39% and I plugged in my 500 watt block heater for my truck for an hour and a half and found the battery went into safe mode due to under voltage. By my math it should have had something left. It was -20F so I guess that had something to do with it. Also I haven't found a way to get it to communicate with my Growatt inverter, but it works OK as a dumb battery. It works fine and it has been idiot proof so far.
Hey Will, thanks for these insightful and inspiring videos. There's always something to learn!
I am curious if there is any chance you can test/review the trendy lifepo4 blade cells. Looking forward to get your opinion on those.
Thanks for blowing the pricing
I’d love to see you put together the ultimate used solar panel & battery system.
Thanks Dan 💫
Just wondering if the positive wire will block the screen on the smaller battery? Great video, I look forward to the max testing video.
I might try these next go around right now im all signature solar.
Good job, and very good information.
I would buy computer system warehouse racks with adjustable sliders to get the 19" rack style mount. Typical is 42U.
Thanks, Wiil. I think it is a pro that there are are no flashy colors.
Great information thanks so much.
Thanks for all the info, Will. Would you do an updated video on the Titan? Any problems so far?
I've got several lfp batteries from different companies and also have experience with building with bare cells. I've started with cells and switched to pre-built rack/powerwalls but I'm starting to gravitate back towards the bare cells with a JBD 16S BMS that can work with (for example) Growatt inverters. It's so much cheaper at
Really nice build Quality.
🤓 OSHA Officer Killroy here: I would like to know where your tie off point was while on that table, How did you assess the table, where is your harness, when was harness inspected? By whom?....🤣😂
Another great video with most useful information, that's why I keep coming back, to see what's new and to see the pros and cons. Thanks again Will
If the only downside is they don’t look cool….. great video really informative as usual
I have the same hat you are wearing in this video and I love that hat. It looks better on you but I still love that hat
You talking about Dan . Dan seems like someone is older generation with skills instilled in him. Customer service , maybe a engineering degree and old school simplicity. He knows how to keep cost down ! Kinda reminds me of my dad in his business when people ask if he took PayPal , lol...He always did checks and wire transfers . Wait to see more on these batterie's.
I appreciate your content my man!
I might have to look into these
Looks pretty nice.
Great info .. will they work / talk with Victron gear ?
Great video as always! Thank you for making these. What would be good addition to your channel would be testing bigger 48 to 92 volt BMS's :)
Thanks for the “Boring batteries” video. Thumbs up.
Would you recommend which inverter or management system could go with this batteries?
This is like my 4th battery today, great content! Curious, have you found anyone that sells "Trophy Battery / Inverter" kits?
Hi Will! I enjoy watching your videos about off-grid stuff, i JUST got my panels, inverter etc. installed, still have to setup Lan/wifi. Im just wondering if u have any recommendations of vendors on aliexpress that has grade A cells and overall good/decent quality. Keep up the good work man and would like to see some off-grid rv stuff.
I have 3 of the 100ah batteries. They are mounted in my unheated shed in northern lower Michigan.I have had these since June and my only issue is some sort of remote state of charge as I have an Outback system an have struggled with consistent automation of my generator (worked perfectly with my AGMs).
I would love a video talking about options for remote state of charge as no one seems to want to give me suggestions. Through many phone calls it seems to be an issue not quite dealt with yet!
These batteries are incredible!!!!
Couldn’t agree more. I would love if someone would do a video about how to charge these batteries if solar panels aren’t hooked up and you are off grid.
@@bigbad27 I have solar array also……. the generator is backup for long stretches of over cast. The solar panels charge these batteries shockingly fast! 😉
I couldn't get my Trophy battery to communicate with my Growatt inverter. If works ok, but it might work better if I could figure out the communication. Mine is also in an unheated shed.
I have an Outback system my system will not communicate with these either. It would be AWSOME to have a stand alone state of charge display that connects with RJ45 jacks just for peace of mind.
By the way made it thru a northern Michigan winter and the internal heaters worked perfectly! 😎🥶
Hello Will, Love the videos, been watching for years. Thank you.
Would you recommend a Trophy rack battery for van use?
(w/ Victron inverter (with shore power switching a nd battery charging from mains)?
also a Victron solar charge controller, with the 900watts of panels on the roof already?
and how would you address charging from alternator when van is running?
Would I be able to charge from an EV car charging station?
thx again. Matt
Will, Trophy does have UL listed batteries now. Mark Durham
Sup Will, just wondering if at a later date coving subjects like GFCI protection devices, SPD’s and wiring equipment. It’s not a very sexy topic I admit, but I’d love to hear your take on the subject at some point. Love the channel btw!
Look at ( scaffolding kits ) it's high grade metal pipe and you can pretty much build anything !
Great video! Can you use these in rv or travel trailer?
Might want to update links, the sites working when you search for it but the links from your video are broken... Great video as always.
I prefer the DeWalt storage rack over a server rack. I find that the steel used on the bolt rails is too thin and you need to use a rack with rear rails as well. One needs to create a shelf between the front and rear supports and slide the packs onto the shelves. Get too high and you need to bolt the server rack to the floor and wall. You also need a safe lifting device to get packs into place.
What a monster, wish they had a 12v model.
hi Will, please consider doing a review on the Mango Power e portable whole house backup system - it has gotten a lot of positive reviews from many TH-cam reviewers, but we would like to hear your honest and unbiased review.
What brand of Inverter and charge controller do they work with? I am interested in if the work with EG4 and Victron Inverters and Charge controllers. Thanks for a great video
I’d still like for you to take a look the pytes server rack batteries that Ian carries at watts247. I’m just curious what their guts look like.
Around the 13min mark you state these are EV grade UL Listed but earlier I thought you said they were not UL listed which may prohibit grid interaction. Are you referring to the cells that are UL listed but the server rack units are not UL listed? Thanks (Awesome videos, keep up the great work)
Thank you.
Would love to see a Victron build along with these batteries. I wonder if there's any functionality loss to be expected.
Can you please review the anker 767 powerhouse. It looks promising!
Thanks 👍
When the battery is oriented vertically, I would expect large tension/compression loads on the welded bus bars. Either slightly long or slightly short. The weight/ moment arm of those heavy cells on the bus bar will eventually cause fatigue. Or with small expansion/ contraction of the cells in normal use.
Yeah this was my concern a few years ago and then we talked to the manufacturers and said it's totally fine. If it breaks within 10 years then you get a brand new one. If you saw what I do to my batteries, I think it's safe to say that it can handle it haha
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Would love to see a review for the Univix Power Solutions.
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Will, can you please review the SunGoldPower 100Ah lithium with bluetooth, heating, and voltage meter? Thx!
Will, I use 4" long sections of electrical heat shrink tubing to protect disconnected battery cables. I tape up one end of the tube with electrical tape, leave one end open to slide in the lug. I use tubing that is a snug fit so it cannot just slide off. I figure if it is safe enough to use on electrical connections, it should be safe to use as insulation when disconnecting batteries.