I once bought a 916 V6 GTV for a tad over 3k then spent another 4k getting it ready to drive to Italy for Alfa’s centenary in 2010. If it’s your car, enjoy it & to hell with the cost. Doesn’t matter what anyone else thinks!
In advance I admit to fitting a custom made Remus exhaust system from Austria to my 156 V6, which was ten years old at the time. It gave me the ‘James May Fizz’…
I personally wouldn't spend that amount of money on an exhaust, but if the owner wants to and has the means then why not? It's great to see someone pushing the limits on a 156 just for fun!!
Well spent money it's all about what makes us happy and heart full of joy,I,m owner of two Alfa Romeo 156 and 166 both with 20 16V twin spark engine.. best wishes from Makedonija my friend👍🇲🇰
Nice informative vid , the new exhaust was a piece of kit . The underside looked like it had been attacked with a Poundland tin opener used by Edward scissor-hands then welded by a Mr s wonder , wearing his extra dark goggles !!!!. Loved the piece of oak as a lift support .
Wizard do a copy of unicornse exhaust which is half the price and just as good and very high quality build and its also interchangeable with standard exhaust and cats and parts...
Doesn’t look like the anti roll bars have been upgraded (at least in the rear) which is one of the best upgrades you can do to a 156 to reduce lift off oversteer. The underside of the car is shocking with the amount of welding it’s had.
Alfatune Motorsport (UK) had fantastic exhaust systems for these cars. Exhausts were made in the UK by an engineering company and not just an exhaust shop.
To remove the rear manifold just undo the rear engine mount and remove it, then undo the top stabiliser mount and jack the engine to tilt it to the front. The manifold then comes out on the top with a bit of a wiggle.
Extreme-tuning BG does manifolds for 800 Ama Slovakia did Equal length downpipes for 400.. Would Be better Sound especially Rear muffler, not sure on this one, wizard with silenced section is approx 700 I think alfisti Shop sells small catalysts for 50-70€ per piece which are mounted in front of aftercat lambdas so you run catless but rear lambdas think you have cats.
All that and then put that back box on….the Supersprint oval back box is excellent, sounds fantastic too. Surprised the lower front brace hasn’t been fitted, has the rear one been added?
@@ItaliaAutos far play, there is nothing cheap about tuning a n/a motor…I suppose 10/15 years ago you could get supercharger kits (Autodelta?) for these but not so common now… it would be interesting to see a remapped Giulia veloce with suspension mods against this on a track…
Sounds great but not sure its a better sound than a Wizard set up for half the cost and what looks like twice the labour.My mechanic swapped my manifolds to Wizards with the engine in and told he was tempted to give up after doing the rear bank.I think if i presented this exhaust he would tell me to go elsewhere so kudos to you for persevering 👏👏👏
@Italia Autos sorry to post this here, but I have a problem with small electronic PCB that is located under gearbox knob on Q-Tronic 159... Is there an easy way to replace it? It is located in housing of handle, this PCB holds 4 magnet recievers to determine lever position... Thanks in advance
It is a lot if money but as you said if people want to spend money on legal stuff then they should be allowed to go for it. Sounds amazing though . Personally not a fan of hard suspension, but it's a track car and at least this 156 is here and not scrapped.
No, I wouldn't spend that kind of money on an exhaust for my 2.5 156. Gonna need a new one soon though, still on the original exhaust after 170k km, but not that insane. Will at least stick to the original manifolds, don't want to do all that work to change them!
£4600 and a remap (£400) to gain 10-15bhp. Absolutely nuts. But as long as the owner is happy, so be it. I mean, the value of the car is less than the exhaust system🤯
P.S that’s the worst underside of any 156 I’ve ever seen. I’ve had maybe 10 or so 156’s and I’ve never seen anything that bad!! Suggest the owner was wiser to find a better shell to change all bits over, but each to their own! Alfisti are crazy.
I’d love another 156 - the Sportwagon I had was without a doubt the best car I’ve owned. Unfortunately the only decent ones I see for sale tend to either be very expensive GTAs, Selespeeds imported from Japan, or, sadly, sheds! Shame, such a beautiful car!
I don't have anywhere enough spare money to buy an exhaust like that. However, if the owner has the disposable income to make such an investment m then good luck to him......... have to say it does sound epic!
Hello friend...i have a question if u may help.me...i am having a discussion with a buddy of mine...about flywheel on 2.5l v6 busso...is it dual mass or sinle mass...im planing on refreshing everything on the car and idk if i should also do flywheel if its dualmass..also cant find it on any car part webshop....hope u can help...thank u...keep up good work 💚🤍♥️👏👏
Hi i got a question to you cous i ve seen a lot of videos with you fixing spiders and gtvs, i got 1997 version of spider, with 2.0 ts 150hp, my gearbox started to breaking, cant put the fourth gear. Im from Poland and mechanics there say that the renovation of this gearbox is very hard and expensive (lack of the parts they say) The point is they say that i should buy just a used one in good condition from other 2.0 TS, do you know do the gearboxes from other TS fit to this particular engine in my spider>?
Problem with getting into 4th gear a common problem. Normally due to swarf buildup in the gearbox. Get the garage to remove the gearbox end casing and clear out the metal swarf buildup. Go onto the alfaworkshop website in UK they have instructions on how to do this.
@@ds1868 yea but also for a long time when putting the third gear if i did it fast the gearbox made this not pleasant noise, so i think its smth deeper in the gearbox and this what you recommend idk it ll help
I wouldn't track that heap! Blobby patchwork quilt welding, The shells borderline scrap! £4500 quid on an exhaust for it all for a hopeful 300BHP? The guys nuts! If you want a cheap FWD track car get a Volvo 850/V70 MK1 T5, Cheap as chips to get to 300BHP, Tough as old boots and they don't structurally rot!
@@ItaliaAutos nice, can't wait to see the end result. The supersprint exhaust is superb. I went for the cheaper option of just simply fitting equal length front pipes and a straight line to the back. Would have loved to find a supersprint for the right price.
That price for not being ELFP is crazy.. Equal Length Front Pipes for any Busso V6 should be mandatory. No matter how good your exhaust is.. not going to sound as good as ELFP.. (I get not as important for a track car.. but that price!)
In my experience, I think Supersprint are a waste of money. I fitted their centre pipe and rear exhaust onto a 2001 540i Sport and it sounded EXACTLY the same as the original BMW pipe I had to cut off!! Absolutely over priced. Don’t even fit that well to be honest.
Glad you made some money from this job. But sorry. The person who owns the vehicle, has too much disposable Income. He / She. Would have been better to spend. The moneys elsewhere on the vehicle. How fast do they want to go and why ? I could buy a half decent vehicle for the money.
Hi mate, can I talk with you via email I have a problem on my 156 nobody seems to find it can you help me please how can I contact you? I need to explain my problem.
I once bought a 916 V6 GTV for a tad over 3k then spent another 4k getting it ready to drive to Italy for Alfa’s centenary in 2010. If it’s your car, enjoy it & to hell with the cost. Doesn’t matter what anyone else thinks!
It's only expensive if the Mrs finds out
So fuckin true.
In advance I admit to fitting a custom made Remus exhaust system from Austria to my 156 V6, which was ten years old at the time. It gave me the ‘James May Fizz’…
Nice.
Not justified for most people but nobody can deny that sounds epic!
It’s really great to see a 156 being purposed as a track car however I would not spend that much on the exhaust! Would like to see this on track
Yes, can you ask your customer if you can film the 156 being extended on track?
Yeah expensive. I have. 75 with a GTA 3.2 and JK10 cams and equal length manifolds which was custom made for only £900. It’s quicker than an E46 M3
@@155stw > I have a 159 3.2Q4 manual with a 3. 7 built engine and full freeflow exhaust with software decat 😇
@@rogerhalstead2595 3.7? Is that with v6 Camaro internals?
The Panamera/Cayenne throttle is a big improvement! I mounted it (with an adapter) on all my Alfa 3,2! Great effect with little effort!
I personally wouldn't spend that amount of money on an exhaust, but if the owner wants to and has the means then why not? It's great to see someone pushing the limits on a 156 just for fun!!
Well spent money it's all about what makes us happy and heart full of joy,I,m owner of two Alfa Romeo 156 and 166 both with 20 16V twin spark engine.. best wishes from Makedonija my friend👍🇲🇰
Nice informative vid , the new exhaust was a piece of kit . The underside looked like it had been attacked with a Poundland tin opener used by Edward scissor-hands then welded by a Mr s wonder , wearing his extra dark goggles !!!!. Loved the piece of oak as a lift support .
Wizard do a copy of unicornse exhaust which is half the price and just as good and very high quality build and its also interchangeable with standard exhaust and cats and parts...
Sounds epic! Perfect to have more tone for the Busso engine.
75% of the time I wish I had not sold 156v6 (2.5) but my 1750GTV is happy it's gone as it gets all the attention
In my minds eye, I can see the new sign over the unit door, “Welcome to Neil’s Alpha Mod Shop”! 😉😁
Or even " Welcome to Neil's Alfa Romeo Mod Shop" ...unless you writing Alpha was part of the joke, in which case I grovel with apology 😂😂
Alfa
@@timhancock6626 I don’t do jokes, I do do not reading my TH-cam replies properly…………. 😉😁
Doesn’t look like the anti roll bars have been upgraded (at least in the rear) which is one of the best upgrades you can do to a 156 to reduce lift off oversteer. The underside of the car is shocking with the amount of welding it’s had.
Agreed I have the GTA ARB fitted to my 156 and this makes a big difference.
Think of it more as reinforcement than repair. Lol.
very cool but dish this back box powerflow get propa it will sound epic when you gonna change back box
Alfatune Motorsport (UK) had fantastic exhaust systems for these cars. Exhausts were made in the UK by an engineering company and not just an exhaust shop.
Good Sunday morning vid 👊👍
Cheers.
To remove the rear manifold just undo the rear engine mount and remove it, then undo the top stabiliser mount and jack the engine to tilt it to the front. The manifold then comes out on the top with a bit of a wiggle.
Always found it to much of a faff that way.
Extreme-tuning BG does manifolds for 800
Ama Slovakia did Equal length downpipes for 400..
Would Be better Sound especially
Rear muffler, not sure on this one, wizard with silenced section is approx 700
I think alfisti Shop sells small catalysts for 50-70€ per piece which are mounted in front of aftercat lambdas so you run catless but rear lambdas think you have cats.
A nice sound you will enjoy it every day.
Thanks for watching
Sounds terrific. For me, the money would be better spent on driver coaching if it’s about improving track times.
And I thought I was an arse for spending…
In comparison, my current SAAB 9-5 Aero HOT cost me £375….for the entire car. And it’s a cracker!
For and old beautiful alfa yes it wort it keep that glorious sound engine alive
All that and then put that back box on….the Supersprint oval back box is excellent, sounds fantastic too. Surprised the lower front brace hasn’t been fitted, has the rear one been added?
It's got an internal strut brace in the boot. Back box to customer specs
@@ItaliaAutos far play, there is nothing cheap about tuning a n/a motor…I suppose 10/15 years ago you could get supercharger kits (Autodelta?) for these but not so common now… it would be interesting to see a remapped Giulia veloce with suspension mods against this on a track…
Sounds great but not sure its a better sound than a Wizard set up for half the cost and what looks like twice the labour.My mechanic swapped my manifolds to Wizards with the engine in and told he was tempted to give up after doing the rear bank.I think if i presented this exhaust he would tell me to go elsewhere so kudos to you for persevering 👏👏👏
It's performance based not gone for sound. But it could of been epic without that cat.
@Italia Autos sorry to post this here, but I have a problem with small electronic PCB that is located under gearbox knob on Q-Tronic 159... Is there an easy way to replace it? It is located in housing of handle, this PCB holds 4 magnet recievers to determine lever position...
Thanks in advance
Very nice and sounds lovely but I would have invested in a cage and harnesses first
It’s a bit too Kevv’d up for my liking, but top marks for keeping a 156 on the road!
thanks for watching
There was almost a smile on your face ;-)
Such a sleek machine…. I wonder what the top speed at Elvington would be ?
It is a lot if money but as you said if people want to spend money on legal stuff then they should be allowed to go for it. Sounds amazing though . Personally not a fan of hard suspension, but it's a track car and at least this 156 is here and not scrapped.
Sounds epic 😁
No, I wouldn't spend that kind of money on an exhaust for my 2.5 156. Gonna need a new one soon though, still on the original exhaust after 170k km, but not that insane. Will at least stick to the original manifolds, don't want to do all that work to change them!
That is a lot of money Neil, but it does sounds great, each to their own I guess.
£4600 and a remap (£400) to gain 10-15bhp. Absolutely nuts. But as long as the owner is happy, so be it. I mean, the value of the car is less than the exhaust system🤯
Of course it's a waste of money, but that's the common thread of all of us car guys!
P.S that’s the worst underside of any 156 I’ve ever seen. I’ve had maybe 10 or so 156’s and I’ve never seen anything that bad!!
Suggest the owner was wiser to find a better shell to change all bits over, but each to their own! Alfisti are crazy.
I’d love another 156 - the Sportwagon I had was without a doubt the best car I’ve owned. Unfortunately the only decent ones I see for sale tend to either be very expensive GTAs, Selespeeds imported from Japan, or, sadly, sheds! Shame, such a beautiful car!
Did it have an engine swap? The car isn't a GTA and the rocker cover is from a 2.5 or 3.0.
Yes
I don't have anywhere enough spare money to buy an exhaust like that. However, if the owner has the disposable income to make such an investment m then good luck to him......... have to say it does sound epic!
Hello friend...i have a question if u may help.me...i am having a discussion with a buddy of mine...about flywheel on 2.5l v6 busso...is it dual mass or sinle mass...im planing on refreshing everything on the car and idk if i should also do flywheel if its dualmass..also cant find it on any car part webshop....hope u can help...thank u...keep up good work 💚🤍♥️👏👏
Single mass on 2.5 and 3.2
@@ItaliaAutos rhank u very much 😊🤝🤝
Gaz kelebeğin tamiri olurmu
agreed with the money spend it enjoy it as you cant take it with you
Dose the strut brace make much difference ?
For track use yes.
Hi i got a question to you cous i ve seen a lot of videos with you fixing spiders and gtvs, i got 1997 version of spider, with 2.0 ts 150hp, my gearbox started to breaking, cant put the fourth gear. Im from Poland and mechanics there say that the renovation of this gearbox is very hard and expensive (lack of the parts they say) The point is they say that i should buy just a used one in good condition from other 2.0 TS, do you know do the gearboxes from other TS fit to this particular engine in my spider>?
Problem with getting into 4th gear a common problem. Normally due to swarf buildup in the gearbox. Get the garage to remove the gearbox end casing and clear out the metal swarf buildup. Go onto the alfaworkshop website in UK they have instructions on how to do this.
@@ds1868 yea but also for a long time when putting the third gear if i did it fast the gearbox made this not pleasant noise, so i think its smth deeper in the gearbox and this what you recommend idk it ll help
If it makes the owner happy then go for it. I'd just buy more project cars though.
Neil, did it get remapped? What BHP/ Nm did it make? What cams is is using?
(asking for a friend ;-) )
No remap yet. Customer will be getting they done himself.
The exhaust costs more than the car is worth. Obviously, the owner has more money than sensibility, and it’s a track car but no roll cage, hmn ??
It's very much a work in progress and I'm sure he will be doing more upgrades.
I wouldn't track that heap! Blobby patchwork quilt welding, The shells borderline scrap! £4500 quid on an exhaust for it all for a hopeful 300BHP? The guys nuts! If you want a cheap FWD track car get a Volvo 850/V70 MK1 T5, Cheap as chips to get to 300BHP, Tough as old boots and they don't structurally rot!
That's crazy, the owner must deluded
A race car can never be too light. 😉 Just compensate with a lighter bonnet.
Don't worry there's more to come on this car.
@@ItaliaAutos nice, can't wait to see the end result. The supersprint exhaust is superb. I went for the cheaper option of just simply fitting equal length front pipes and a straight line to the back. Would have loved to find a supersprint for the right price.
If someone paid £4600 for that exhaust they visited a shop where Harry Enfield works.
not a fan of the supersprint stuff if youre gonna pay that premium price may as well look to japan
its a cf1 ?
Yep
You only live once and if you can afford it why not bet it upsets a few of the German cars when on the track 👍👍
That price for not being ELFP is crazy.. Equal Length Front Pipes for any Busso V6 should be mandatory. No matter how good your exhaust is.. not going to sound as good as ELFP.. (I get not as important for a track car.. but that price!)
Sounds just the same as an 80 quid sportex back box
Parts worth a grand tops, 4k insane money, not worth it.
Nice job
No way worth 5k for an exhaust
Absolute robbery lmao
Just looked at the MOT history…not exactly been looked after
Wait till you see the amount of welding it's had.
How is this exhaust £4600🤷♂️what’s special about it ?
It's just made by supersprint and fitted to race cars.
In my experience, I think Supersprint are a waste of money. I fitted their centre pipe and rear exhaust onto a 2001 540i Sport and it sounded EXACTLY the same as the original BMW pipe I had to cut off!!
Absolutely over priced. Don’t even fit that well to be honest.
For that money I can buy three 147 2.0 Ti (Lusso to you). Can't see the justification.
how does buying three cars get you an upgraded exhaust?
Supersprint is great quality but 4k plus, no.
Why
Removes glass from sun roof and replaces glass in rear door windows for weight saving but retains rear seats 🤪
Removing high weight is better for handling
@@ItaliaAutos People usually move the battery to the back for better weight distribution too: surprised he didn't.
Not even a full exhaust lol
Think it was at least 6k for the rest.
What a waste of money. Chavtastic exhaust though, will never be out of place in a McDonald's car park on a saturday night.
Or you could pick up a Milltek for 600-800 quid. £4600 😂🤡
Glad you made some money from this job. But sorry. The person who owns the vehicle, has too much disposable Income.
He / She. Would have been better to spend. The moneys elsewhere on the vehicle. How fast do they want to go and why ?
I could buy a half decent vehicle for the money.
thats why they call it disposable. why do you care what they want to spend it on?
Hi mate, can I talk with you via email I have a problem on my 156 nobody seems to find it can you help me please how can I contact you? I need to explain my problem.