Japanese Pronunciation, Video 4: Some Japanese Spelling Rules
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- This is the last of a 4-part series on Japanese pronunciation. The goal is to get familiar with the sounds of Japanese and the IPA symbols. You'll then be able to learn them faster, either through your own studies or through my pronunciation trainers. More links below:
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A super detailed discussion of the IPA: • Pronunciation Tutorial...
history lesson!
In Old Japanese, those characters used for ha hi hu he ho used to be read as p-- pa pi pu pe po (and there was no h sound), which is why adding the tenten turned it into voiced ba bi bu be bo. However, Early Middle Japanese eventually lost the p sound, so those symbols came to be pronounced as h. Eventually p came back into the Japanese language and they needed a way to write it, which is how the circle was added to make the p.
Nah, in Old japanese はひふへほ were [ɸa] [ɸi] [ɸɯ] [ɸe] [ɸo]; only [ɸɯ] stayed the same and the other sound changed to [ha] [çi] [he] [ho]. The p sounds were later changed with a 半濁点（はんだくてん、half-voiced consonant sign）with a circle（゜）; and the b sound got 濁点（だくてん、voiced consonant sound）with two 'apostrophes' （゛）.
@@pepok318 A correction. The actual sound shift was p → ɸ → h (except ɸɯ). Like papa→ɸaɸa→haha (はは mother). So both of you are right. Some of original p sounds remain like in 一本 (いっぽん), 一片/一辺(いっぺん), 日本 (にっぽん).
@@ryotakus.1560 The most correct cognrats
@@ryotakus.1560 Congrats
@@ryotakus.1560 The pp in 2 kanji word is because of assimilation: いち＋杯はい>一杯. Tsu chi ku i forgor what's more>っｐ>一階、しゅつ出＋発>出発。i forgor the ku example maybe later
One important thing not mentioned: in words like おもう, the /o/ and /u/ are separate vowels because the う is a conjugating ending. Also, as I understand it, えい can be pronounced interchangeably as /e:/ or /ei/.
What's the nuances between both? Cuz there's a long ei word twice in けいえい。
@@prezentoappr1171 Some dialects will make it close to the diphthong, standard Tokyo dialect elongates it instead.
Good point, as it would be written 思うnormally, clearing showing the okuragana here.
@@jaycee330 hm I'll ask other forum about diphthong realization later.
That makes sense why the long e is common, cuz hyoujungo is from standard Tokyo.
To teach my Japanese students the difference between the words she and sea, I will write sea as スィ, instead of シ. That seems to work pretty well.
Great video, Thank you.
Our pleasure!
動画の目的が正しく日本語の音韻を理解することなので、それぞれの例で、高低アクセントも正しく紹介していれば良かったですね。
This series is the best I found on perfect Japanese pronunciation. I have one question though. Sometimes there are words with a long 'O' that use おう like "otousan" and sometimes I see words that use おお like with "tooka". How do you know whether to use う or お when you hear a long 'O' sound? Is there a rule for that or is it just memorization?
I'm no expert but I don't think there is any rule. You have to memorize the ones with "おお", but I don't think it's necessary to know them. And they are really rare too.
I'm not sure if it's just my imagination but with words like "oomachigae", the 2nd o appears to have a higher pitch than the first.
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@@alessiavilla961 It basically comes down to whether the word is of native origin or sino (chinese) origin.
おおａｎｄええ are rare, 姉さん、催す、憂える、
edit 用いる、けいえい。change wIkipedia about vowel length in japanese cover eastern europe and chase the fenghuang.
Great video but you guys forget about the nasalized Japanese g or bidakuon
It's a bit more nuanced for these videos, probably. And not all Japanese will consistently nasalize it.
orthographic rules matey if its spellings it get hard to explain in radical/determinative lvl eg kanji study sources and kanadukai
great video, thanks!
I've noticed that を is sometimes pronouced 'wo', and other times it is 'o'. Is there a rule for this, or is it up to the speaker's preference?
It's basically always /o/. Wikipedia says that it's sometimes used as /wo/ in some dialects, especially in old songs (though it doesn't have a citation), and I've yet to encounter anything like that. ~Lauren, Gabe's assistant
Look up "Period" by Chemistry. Towards the end "Period" is pronounced "Pi-ri-wo-do". It's the only time I've heard "wo" not pronounced "o"
@@CosmicDoom47 をis used in song and poetry
as wo instead of /o/
its a leftover from historical kana orthography
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