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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ย. 2024
- TOPSKY F7X Goggles: goo.gl/6CFDPt
Something else kinda interesting on the way: goo.gl/f5dRsP
NEW DEVELOPMENT - The Topsky company has started asking me for help to improve the product........alright....I'll give it another go and see if they're actually open to constructive criticism. No I am not rude to developers and companies at all when I talk to them. I have very high respect for anyone that's investing time and money into anything.
Pity but no surprise...I've learnt to trust the word of anyone who uses the words 'chromatic aberration'. Good honest review Kabab...nice one
wow. i don't even think ill bother with a part 2 on these after seeing this. I can't describe the disappointment, especially for those who pre ordered. The chromatic aberration reminds me of the rainbow effect you would get on LED projectors when you turn your head fast scanning the picture. Oh well..next!
preordering un reviewed goggles is one of the worst ideas in the hobby
So agree!!! hopefully they do away with this whole pre-ordering and not giving preview version to the top reviewers.
plus this kind of failure just will re-enforce the reason why fatsharks cost what they do:(
Fatshark should make these type of crap goggles and flood the market so that they can increase fatshark sales. 👍
Thanks for the honest review, I’m flying the skyzone v1 and waiting for a review from you to tell me the next best thing for an upgrade. Appreciate your honesty!
Slippery Sebastian keep the skyzones for now. Hopefully the next few goggles coming out soon will be better.
Hopefully they listen to tha peepol ✊️✊️
Love my skyzones. Even with the eye cups. They become soft and hqve formed to my face over time. Rx works as good as my friend who paid $80 fpr one on his fat sharks
Yet more plastic and silicon for the landfill... hooray for needless multiplicity. Why would they throw all these resources into a new product, and not consult anyone who would buy it? Was it all just lost in translation?
This has always baffled me, especially with frames in this hobby.
Given the average lifespan of a freestyle / racing drone not piloted by MrSteele, this entire hobby is probably one of the fastest ways to simultaneously move western debt easterly, and toxic non-recyclable / degradable balls of leaded alloys and microscopic needles of carbon and fiberglass into the landfills of the west. I'm guilty of this myself, and am starting to wonder why I keep doing it when it has long since devolved into another "keeping up with the Joneses" situation that doesn't produce anything more than the symptoms of yet another addiction.
It looks like they made a ton of these things. So ridiculous. Its as if they are laughing at us
chipmunk voice makes the video worth it. 10x thumbs up
The chipmunk voice was funny! :) Next video have the chipmunk do the outtro. :)
Finally another video... I always enjoy watching them 👍
That chipmunk part is so funny 😂
I really dont get your issues with the screens. I have flown them now for 3-4 hours.
The picture is really clear, I upped the settings to 80/80/75. I also can see the whole screen (Might be a OSD 4:3, 16:9 conversion issue and not the actual FPV feed getting chopped)
Even the ghosting you seem to experience I cant confirm.
I have flown through the woods with these goggles and had no issue seeing even little branches.
Im used to big box goggle screens, and had no problem flying these.
What i noticed are some reflections on the bottom of the screen.
The stock reciever is working really good for non diversity if you put a decent antenna on.
For the screens: Try hooking up your goggles to a computer and input HDMI, I would guess it would be really nice.
Might be the FPV gear on your Quad. With these goggles I noticed for the first time that my camera was slightly out of focus.
Also the autoscan isnt super reliable maybe you didnt hit the right channel.
Would be great of you to be so fair to give them another real chance. Chances are the issue is on your side.
MsKoffeinjunky I did plug them into my computer. Same crap. What I've said in this video has been echoed by four or five other reviews so far too. Difficult for us all to be misinforming indipendantly.
Strange.. I have flown one more time since my last comment.
By "ghosting" you mean that moving objekt leave a blurry trail behind them and details washing into each other? Mine is completely sharp.
Even with a cheap cam on my Arfun 95.
At first I was on the wrong channel again and the clouds were getting black patches when the white was too white.
I dont own any Fatsharks, maybe it is some habituation thing.
Colore brightness and contrast settings are way to low at 50.
i got the F7X google from Banggood yesterday, the design is really cool, it's comfortable to wear. The control interface is very clear, I'm just getting in to FPV Drone flying, it works well.
Just goes to show all these companies are about making money and not a quality product. Make it as cheap as possible and market the hell out of it. If only they knew that if they made a quality product they would make more money
Fatshark will honestly never be beaten. There’s all these “fatshark killers” but tbh it’s clickbait
Brandon FPV Aomway Commanders are much better and fatshark knows it.
Kabab FPV but why doesn’t stingersswarm and Steele and stuff use them? I barely see the commanders anywhere
Only time for the capture positión.
Love your honestly so far.. you save many people spend money around.. you are the voice that many companies have to listen.. thanks dude.. Hope you make a nice goggles in a future. I have to sudscribe now...
Look like not only UAVfutures need his arms to talk ! Nice glass reflection on those crazy looking goggles ;)
Nice video. Makes me glad I purchased the HD3's on sale for a bit more than these.
11:00 That menu is used in the Eachine EV800 budget box goggles, as well as the output switching/channel selection things. So they are literally using the same technology in a £300 goggles as £40 goggles. Really shows the quality.
Fatshark no tiene ni menu....cual es el problema?
Yet another swing and a miss, but at least more companies are in the park, let's hope they keep playing ball and perfect it.
The good news is that were getting closer to the true killers. Each set of new goggles that I've seen come out lately has at least got a feature or two that seems to be innovative. So hopefully something will come out the incorporates them all.
Great data! I do like the way that they are going after this market and ideally later on the cost will show signs of improvement for every one of us. Cheerful Flying!
Great Review. Many things which I didn’t learn in the other reviews. The thing with the fan for example. Now I’ve seen so many reviews I don’t know if I want to see them on my bench at all .
Thanks for another great video. A
Other YT reviewers have mentioned the fan runs too fast and high pitched. Also the fan first vents into the goggles, collecting heat that then circulates to the lens and on your eyes. The hot air dries your eyes out. It seems these should be totally avoided until several large improvements are made.
ATCr yep this is true. But I thought I did enough damage already.
I happen to prefer the Aomway Commanders. Even though we can't change modules they still kick ass. The screens are sweet and the features you get outway the module being proprietary. The reception on the commanders is damn good for being in house or whatever they chose. They are a better option for those who want an option ready to go.
If there are more competitors in FPV goggles, so that consumers could get the high-quality products at an affordable price. That's why TOPSKY made the F7X.
Matt Burney so they made this shit product as charity for the community? 🤔
Is it possible that the screen crops because your camera is transmitting in 4:3 and not 16:9?
Beau no. I tried it on PAL, my monster cams and my computer signal. Same story.
Kabab FPV what are the goggles you referred to that you said were great except the plastic?
Love the review and the eye view not many reviewers show the actual screen.
The first batch of products are being tested in a small scope, aiming to improve the product through feedback....
I fly under an umbrella, if my goggles were white, i'd still fly under an umbrella. Standing or sitting in the sun is so, well, not so smart. Little umbrella that pops up out of the top is what these need.
The chipmunk part makes you sound incredibly sassy ;)
I agree ... with the slight blue color even with analog inputs... It's a bit more darker, colors less vivid, contrast less precize.... than V1 and competitors but screen are real HD... So HD performances of the screens are decreased with all the polorization systems. Is it better at then end than a clasic VGA display.... Yes but not incredibily much better
What a shame. Still love my HD2s and their massive FOV
The front black faceplate doesn't allow the SMA port to be in the normal position when the module is installed in the left-hand side of the goggles. Mounting a module on the right side would allow you to use the front black plate and a standard rx module (since the SMA would now be out of the way). V2 of these goggles should definitely have that changed.
it's still a step in the right direction giving us more options with large FPV Drone.
I'm a fan of FPV goggles, and very interested in TOPSKY F7X, it looks really cool. Well, I'd still like to try it with my FPV Drone flying after getting it fixed..
Naah..... we want stylish black goggles.... sun isn't that big of a problem everywhere...
The first batch of products are being tested in a small scope, aiming to improve the product through feedback.
Such a huge let down. So happy I did not pre order now. Great review
Glad you managed to get a pair of these I was in two minds to wait for these or buy the Aomway commander I bout the Aomway Keep up the vids always love the content
They were expensive but work well. I would like a few things fixed about them as well but I like them.
John Cuevas what are you comparing them to? Only every single review has said they're crap. Is this a fake account from the topsky company?
When Fatshark launched its first product, it also had some problems, but they are getting better through continuous improvement. Why not take this tolerantly?
Lloyd Ashby because it's $350 right now. If nobody buys it, there will never be a V2. I don't think people are willing to donate their money for junk in hopes that V2 will be better so they can spend another $350 on it.
Thanks Bob! I owe you Beers 🍻 for saving me from a 350 buck mistake! Appreciate your honesty
I see this pattern so often with many Chinese brands, they design a new innovative product for a great price but then completely miss the mark on a crucial feature. I'm hoping Eachine, for example have taken on board the EV100 criticisms and bring out new goggles with a proper screen and module bay.
I ummed and ahhhed for months over my goggle purchase, agonising over 16:9 and 4:3, I had the commanders on order for a while but got bored waiting for stock and went for HD3 with Laforge v2. It's funny, I don't even think about my goggles anymore, I just put them on my face and fly.. They might be expensive, but they work. Every time. I think I made the right choice :)
the dominator v3 is subpar compared to skyzone v+ which has better optics and doesn't suffer from looking down a tunnel syndrome.. it takes 10 minutes to add a fan. Unless you have to have a separate receiver (it has excellent diversity and a useful spectrum analyser) i don't know why anyone is using the v3. its often on sale on banggood and when it is, its cheaper too. the camera is also surprisingly useful if you wear specs. It has crap dvr quality, however.
Coppertop FPV yep. But nobody will ever know because the skyzones are like $10 more and don't have a marketing department. Also, there's a module coming soon that everyone will want. So the inability to swap modules is not gonna be very good soon.
Well, if we(v3 owners) had waited for the skyzones to come out, we would have missed out on more than years worth of flying!!!
Canyon Racer lol
I am guessing you are alluding to the clearview module? At 289 asking price I don't think everyone will want it. Clearview should just attempt to build a goggle set themselves.
lol, dat chipmunk part cracked me up :)
Thanks for sharing ...Man, you fly with such grace..... inches from the ground, head long into those tight spaces..... great job. What are you flying?
Angela Lowell I post all my craft specs in my video descriptions now.
By the way AndyRC has an excellent review on these goggles as well. He points out some additional need to knows. Although you've made the most important part clear, and that's that there not worth the cash. Thanks for the review.
It is so simple but still they want to reinvent the goggles. This makes that fatshark even with the things that are not good, still the best overall goggle.
3d print a new casing for the goggle and you can design it as you want, you only need the electronics.
At least your review has shown us them working...The other reviewers so far seem to be saving that bit for some weird reason
The proxmity sensor is good idea for some "auto cover" inside system. 46º FOV is okey.....!!
Thanks for the review and for saving me some $$...but there goes my only option that would have fit my well endowed IPD. I'm hoping the goggles you are working on will adjust to at least 72mm also. ;)
I like Your deeply honest reviews.
Oh dear what a shame, the spec looked really good, glad I held off buying a pair. Thanks for the review. Fatshark can breathe a sigh of releif.
Lmao, I swear we are the testers!
great review. really appreciate the candor. The upside down module and odd fitment of the module doesn't bother me .. but the optics and video has to be beautiful or it is all a waste, esp with Prosight. Though I understand Topsky is reworking the optics right now, and delaying shipping again for this issue - it seems the video is still bad beyond hope, such as with cropping. waiting for the next gen Fatsharks I guess .. if they ever deliver 720p with glass optics. I am living with my Dom V1 and Headplay HD for now.
Damn, how many people reviewed these FPV Goggles today lol
I will stick with my Skyzone SKY02S V+ FPV Goggles! I never thought about getting something else anyway lol
Have a great week and keep on honest flossing ;)
I flossed during this video!
Great review...love the honesty. I would at least hope that as more and more companies keep coming out with new goggles that drives the price down. Highly unlikely if nobody can get technically competitive with fatshark though. For now ill stick with my SE's and hope they will last the test of time.
So, do you have any connection with Fatshark? When is their next big release? Or Aomway next version?
Fatshark's next big thing will be their digital-only base HD goggles.
How they are thinking to avoid the encoding/decoding delays then?
Drone Hero's the skyzones are really nice and I like them WAY better then all my friends fatsharks.
Pity that there is no possibility to check the difference. Now all flying guys are grounded where I live because weather is gone definitely bad. Probably will be able to meet them them only at next spring.
Unfortunately Aomway is a company that hasn't spoken to me yet. But they also don't need my help. They're doing great. All they need to do is put in an external module. Fatshark on the other hand, I don't really want any connection with. Aside from the obvious reasons why so many don't like them, I've heard they've done things like buy out all the lenses from the Aomway lens manufacturer for a year just to stunt development of the Commanders. That's like the absolute worst business practice ever for the consumer. I do know they have some new things they're working on and they're frikin awesome. But I don't know of any completed goggle products they have coming. The next logical step tech wise for us is to move to OLED screens. The higher contrast of the screen should give us even more dynamic range from out shitty fpv cameras. The world is not going digital any time soon if you ask me. There are two new digital products on the way but the one I have been testing is still super bulky and not something I would deal with because it's not real much better than my analog monster cameras.
What external receiver are you using on your 4K computer...?
Amazing fail. Guess I gotta keep loving my Dom V3's....which is getting easier with all the new runcam 16:9 cameras! Happy flying Bob!
I'm happy organizations are giving them some opposition.
Dang another goggle on the market
As someone who uses Dominator V3 goggles. Do you recommend using a 16:9 camera? I am currently using a 4:3 camera with my dom v3s. Just wondering how much of a difference it makes.
I love the 16:9 cameras but the problem is vertical FOV. There are some new micro cams coming however.
I don't get it either. Do they like make these and go, "yeah these seem like a good quality.... At $300+!"
How do they not realize they're not worth it? Maybe they do, but have sunk money into development and are trying to get some of it back....
Let's see how the next competitor will manage : Jerolac Kaptain G
Bummer, that sux! Thanks for saving me my money on these👍
You should do a review of the RR Hypetrain motors.
Gavin Remme I've got a better video coming to let all people compare.
Do you think that they would at least fix the basic problems?? like the lenses & the receiver module? I kind of like them, but if those two problems are not address and solve!! I will probably just turn around and buy the Fat Shark.. "And by the way I don't really like them that much!
Are the optics not one piece and move independent of the screens? I'm sure I could see through the Google when you opened the head tracker port. PS: Chipmunk Bob is funny AF. 😃
Once you load the New Firmware update releasing in a few days. . let us know if that has improved the googles. .. user experience.
I've seen that the frontplate is actually needed to block light shining through the front...Edit: ah you noticed that later in the vid :D
Delicious Review ! , I love it. HD goggles got super blurry and unsharp image, really ?! OMG ! :/. One of the worst constructions I have seen so far ... .
Cheers
Dam ! I thought I could buy this for the price . Thanks for the heads up .. back saving money for fat shark hd3 ;( (inr )40k in India .. plus an other 10k for Rx and antenna
Love it. Please start a new series, videos of not doing videos.
think you for this reel test
I watched NJ tech review funny thing is they get worse when you open them. The Fan blowing hot air on your face is one of the dumbest things they did. It's almost like they didnt do any prototypes and have actual pilots try them and give feedback. It's pretty amazing that only fatshark can get this right. The commanders are nice and I thought about buying a pair what stopped me was not having bays. What happens if the module goes bad? You have to buy new ones or try to fix them. Hopefully someone can work with aomway on a new set of Goggles with removable module bays or even skyzone. At least those companies got a decent goggle.
Good that you managed to put actual image from googles in here. Seems FX7 creators belong to some kind of bug race where facet eyes with multiple lens and chromatic aberrations is considered normal :) I already wrote mine thoughts below AndyRC review and wouldn't repeat. Topsky packed F7X with features \m/ but they forgot about ergonomics and match to already established plugin module "standard". Impossibility to record DVR footage in NTSC mode is a simple fail. In short - VR googles with added FPV feature and casing design ripped from anime cartoons in hope to catch attention from certain range of geeks. I already thought about getting these, but... no. Please fix ergonomics first, dear Topsky. And maybe hire some of reviewers here as part-time consultant first before starting to make a new product.
Regardless i'm utilizing the my old TOPSKY v2 I wish the screen was greater and it had a dvr however not worth purchasing fatsharks for an update.
Goggles got potential! ! Yet at the same time not decent. Awesome review.
Surprising. I guess we know why fatshark doesn’t bother to innovate. It’s amazing with all the fpv copycats, some company hasn’t just copied FS already and sell it at a more competitive price.
It appears the market is desperate to keep the $350 price point. The reality should be closer to $100 for the current electronics.
It’s good to see some of the innovation. Eachine’s focal distance adjustment and the IR sensor on these are amazing and simple innovations.
Heck, at this point, I’d be happy if FS would include a quality aftermarket RX module or at least make it easier to install laforge. I use furious because it’s so much easier to deal with, but I’d like to try laforge.
InFrontOfYourBack1 fatshark has bought out a years supply of the lenses from the factory that makes the lenses for the Aomway goggles. Fatshark isn't even using the lenses. They just wanted to limit the production of the commanders...
My dentist was really happy with my teeth today
Apparently they also won't switch between 4:3 and 16:9, despite being advertised as such.
It's a shame, I really wanted these to help bring the price of fatsharks down a little, I honestly wouldn't even fuss over the module being upside down, I barely even look at mine these days.
Faawks yeah I couldn't figure out how
Air hole, haha very technical bob.
If you had to choose 3 motors to fly including 1 budget friendy one what wpuld they be?
ZMX FinX30 2600kv, ZMX FinX23 2600kv, Aokfly 2306 2650kv. Those are really easy choices...
Please ask them to make a googles for big face people I have an ipd of 75 so imagine my frustration
I have the flykey -300 $ goggle , I would love if you did a review on it.
Oh and by the way, your reviews are the best I've watched anywhere. Oh and love the dental tips.
I'm so upset at these goggles I'm just gonna get Commanders for myself and call it a day.
Kabab FPV yea I talked too grumpy Trev he liked the flykey but loved the amoway more. I was just hoping you were doing a thing on them because your like the grown up version of there show. More info and details.
Frsky? Topsky? Flysky? What’s next in the highly imaginative list of similarly named companies? 😀
Flykey, Flysight
Really tempted to buy these, how much is the input lag? i hope it's under 15/10 ms.
Cruz Naron did you not watch the video? They're crap. Go get Aomway Commanders
haha more chipmunk please!
What is a good set of "budget" goggles that have diversity? I'm looking at the Skyzone V2s and Aomway Commanders, but both of these are quite expensive and do not have removable modules. Is there anything out there that's sub $300, or do I have to buy Dom V3s to get what I'm looking for?
Bryant Wolden there's nothing that fits what you're looking for unfortunately. We're all after the same thing...
Alright, that's fine. Would you recommend the Skyzone or Commander goggles for general flying? (no need for DVR or A/V input/outputs)?
It seems like I will keep my box goggles forever...
No, don't worry, many more coming...
Dude, from a fellow TH-cam reviewer you did an executioner review while covering all the basis.
Keith Whitehead I really didn't want to and have worked hard to eliminate that tone from my videos but this product deserved it. It's such a piece of junk coming from a company that advertised it's ass off and didn't listen to anyone.... Now they're asking questions. They asked PiroflipRC if they wanted to be the US distributor. If accepted, PiroflipRC would need to delete all negative reviews off the PiroflipRC page. Lack every drop of honor. Still I was hoping for at least a comparable product. Of course PiroflipRC said absolutely not.
HYPEEEEE!
Thank you for another no bullshit product review.
Once again I am secure in my investment in HD3's. "Jesus I am so terribly addicted to this hobby." At least I'm in the right place. Can someone say "LATENCY"
One more thought. You know I can really appreciate the fact that because "I am sure " that your DR. salary affords you the ability to trash any bullshit with the knowledge that you most certainly don't need anyone's gear for free anyway. And so the risk of loosing a potential manufacturer product endorsement has no sway on ya brother. Most excellent.
Damn! WTF! LOL Tnx Bob. Good to know...
Perhaps the problem with these and other fareast goggles like the Eachines is they were designed by east asian people with east asian faces in mind, not us europeans with deep-set eyes?
Possible but so we're fatshaks and dji
@@Kabab I know DGI is Shenzen, but I thought Fatshark was 'mercan at least?
I was expecting better news, i aint gonna floss tonight now ;)
Michael Smith 😭
How did you get in contact with topsky? I've been trying to get a hold of them regarding issues with my goggles. I get no response.
They got a hold of me after they saw 10k views on a video that said they're shit...
i have the actual set of prototypes that they sent to bardwell. are they good goggles for $100? i love my orange skyzones. tneeye cups actually be ome nice and comfortable after they soften up
For $100 sure they're fine. But they were like $450 at the time of this video, not $100. The new $100 goggle they came out with actually looks good however. I've got a pair on the way.
@@Kabab i dont have an RX or the rx that came with them so i never tried them. I only did a video in test
I cant belive they were trying to charge that much with the stupid design that could have been fixed when they asked people like you for input. Weird decisions
@@djilly75 Chinese companies are incredibly prideful about their work. Even if it's a copy. It's hard for them to consider feedback unfortunately. If the feedback isn't 'this is fantastic! Everyone should buy it!' they consider not asking you for feedback anymore and move on to the next person that might praise them. Pretty awful. I'm happy to not work with companies that don't give a shit and just try to make a buck.
@@Kabab and thats why we love you brother. Fight the good fight
I'm finishing my review today as well... BUT you've got a broken one. 😉
XingXing FPV I'd hope so