WORKING LINE GERMAN SHEPHERD... Do NOT Buy One...PART TWO
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- This is Part 2 of a 2-part series on whether you should buy a working Line German Shepherd for you or your family.
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First time GSD owner, East German working line high drive dog. My first dog EVER-I’m 65 yo- I never let her get away with anything and used a balanced approach to training- she is perfect in every way. Socialize, socialize, socialize . Loves everyone but still has that natural gsd protection ‘built in. Best thing I ever did for myself. Is it a lot of work? Yes! But it’s what I wanted to do- we train every day. I am retired and this is my job now. What a great job, huh?? ❤️🐾
Happy to hear
Absolutely perfect response Jane.
It's rewarding ain't it?
Hope you're still at it!
You are one lucky b*stard but I know you worked your butt off to get there. Just wanted to let you know that I am available for adoption as well and I would love to be part of the pack. I'll help you walk the dogs!
when i was a kid, i found a street dog and begged my parents to let me keep him. the only problem was he was very dominant, so i had to do the same thing you're doing with this GSD as a 10 year old little girl 😂 it worked, though, and my dog is now 12 years old and extremely well behaved.
Awesome
I tried to train my gsd all positive at 9 weeks old. He kept "acting a fool." I found your channel. He is happier now! & so am i! He no longer tries to boss me. He also stopped whining all the time. He isn't anxious now that he knows im the boss!
You saved that dog’s life….Bravo!
I just got my first GS 4 month old puppy totally quiet and timid for a few days. Started bossing me today already. This video is quality information.
You’re a great trainer. I can see you truly care about the dogs you train, your compassion and experience shows. 👍🏽
Thank you
Gotta pause the video straight away to say: Stunning intro! And stunning dog, he's a beauty!
Lol….daughters are everything. Yours is precious as can be. ❤
Great video man. Thanks for your service to the community and your commitment to these dogs.
Garrett thank you for being so honest. Through everything that has happened to you and your family in the last few years you are still showing everything and keeping it real . You have inspired me time and time again to become a trainer thank you. B
Love your channel. We had to do this with our 6 month Shepherd. She was so dominant, not like the others and really needed us to show her we weren’t having it anymore. At first we blamed it on teething, but it was more than that. She was biting us and was out of control. So glad to find this video to affirm we did the right thing. E collars are a great teaching tool. In addition we got her proper training. GSD’s are amazing animals and family members! Your videos have such great information! We love your style! Thanks for all your hard work.
I have rescued this year an 8yr working line GSD. What a fun year I've had. Definitely found that discipline beats rewards in terms of training and this video is super accurate.
Luckily she's quite well house trained and calm, and well behaved with strangers (after the initial alert that someone is on the drive) but I have to be on top of her to correct negative actions and things I don't want. I've certainly learnt how to growl commands.
On the other hand people are amazed how quickly she's learned key concepts and commands, and how well it works!
The pinch collar is truly a necessity. Gentle training only works until about 6 months. Then you need gentle correction and the prong or e collar is perfect. The practice of putting your dog on spot and forcing him to give you access to his entire body is key.
Well done video! Really impressive! I own a DDR and they are fun…! I put in a lot of hours into training him. Learning as I go. Will definitely follow you for advice. Thank you!
Good for you! The positive method is NOT enough for these dogs. They are WAY different than American shows. We have had both, and currently have one of each, and it works because Sadie,the American has a retiring personality anyway, but Lucy, the German worker, is constantly trying to manage everybody, and it takes a lot of energy to keep her in her place! We love her to bits though, it's just good we know not to let her get away with her shenanigans. Actually, she's a hoot!
Is it true that American show dogs tend to be on the bigger side, while the working lines on the smaller side? The dog in the video does not look too big
@@lightyear3429 Absolutely true. On the flip side, they tend to be heavier boned, and more solidly built. Their faces are also more serious looking, American shows have a softer more open faced look. But I'll tell you, I'd hate to be on the bad end of an encounter with a real, intensely prey-driven, super energetic German. Way more intimidating!
I currently have a show line female (spayed) and a working line male (unaltered). My male I have had since a puppy and man they try to test you almost daily until around 18-24 months old. He is super smart and loveable but boy I had to pin him when he was younger. My female came in to the house later from a family friend who passed away. His dog needed a home so I brought her in. It's amazing seeing the difference in the lines of GSD when you have it firsthand daily.
@@justinroe9271 All that testing is why we went with a female. She's bad enough! Good luck with your male. We too are astonished daily at the personality differences.
Thank you so much for this video! I took in a 1 year old working line GSD having no idea what I was getting into. She used to act exactly like Chase but we’ve come a long way. I still need to get her used to going to the vet, she acts like a wild animal! This makes so much sense, I had no idea she was a working line. She needs to be man handled!
Hi Erica, welcome to the world of the working lines. After 27 years, I adopted my first DDR GSD [I adopt the unadoptable senior GSDs - working line - to keep them from being put down]. Most amazing dog I've ever owned - my current DDR. Yes, has very high prey drive, but is very well trained. I recondition them as tracking dogs / companions. I recommend tracking [check out "The Tracking Dog" by Glenn Johnson]. May I suggest you reach out to your local Schutzhund club and inquire about Schutzhund training. Also of note, the body structure of the DDR is much stronger. Make sure he's comfortable being handled. The DDRs weren't bred to grab / hold, they hunt / bite. Be careful, grown males can crush bones. Good luck, it's a lot of work, but extremely rewarding!
My 5 1/2 month old French Mastiff was acting a fool and I tried the pinning. It was magic, he calmed down I pet him while he laid there, once I said lets go he came inside no problem. I squatted down and he came over for pets and hugs like nothing
Catch them young and it's much easier as I think you demonstrated.
It's a good way to get your @ss tore up!
@@AmericanStandardK9 which one is more friendly german shepherd or boerboel
The pinning method definitely works… my GSD learned real quick… I don’t get tired… he definitely didn’t wasn’t feeling it but he learned in the end, yea mama mean business so I have to listen. He’s a good boy now. So if you’re not comfortable taking control or things makes you uncomfortable… get an ankle biter or something. GSD takes a little work.
Please make a video about the tips and tricks for raising one of these dogs properly from when they’re a puppy
I presently have one that's 14 weeks old. He's doing very well. Learns so fast
Great video! You said the truth, and let's be real... a strong, dominant GSD in 2021 means more work and headaches than fun, especially a full working line dog. I love the breed, and I think this dogs are the bests dogs by the deffinition of DOG, not pet or some kind of puppet... Their instincts are stronger, they bond harder with their family and especially the owner, and their whole potential is higher but you MUST guide it. I've had 3 GSD though my life, right now a 5 year DDR male wich is a great dog, but if I had videos like this a while ago some things would have been easier, especially because most dog trainers don't know what they are dealing with, so the owner has to do all the work with this dogs, regardles how much they pay for "training".
Same here! So glad I found this trainer.
Excellent video. I’m so glad I found your channel.
SUCH a gorgeous dog. You've done some great work with him!
Real dog training. Great video. Honest and real. Well done
I have a female gsd. She just turned 1 year old. I insisted on socializing her as soon as we got her. She does sit, lay down, still working on stay. She loves children. I'm 61 and I use firm commands. I am disabled, but She responds well. Although I am behind on training due to my copd. Great dog. I know I need lease traing, but walking in the smoke from the wild fires not good for her or me. I enjoy your videos for ideas, and alternatives. Thank you!
Well said! Purfecto!
And the pin downs...well done 👏
And yes people the pin downs like he did in this video is the correct way to do it.
Love you and all of the knowledge you share..invaluable
Thank you
Excellent video. Great information. It just shows that you have exceptional experience in training in training German Shepherds
Thank you Luis. We would like to feature your kennel and your dogs one of these days for those interested in a high quality German Shepherd for the family.
❤thank you for the great lesson!
Enjoyed this video very informative, thank you
As for health degenerative myelopathy make sure the lines are tested for this.
This video is correct I was fortunate my working line gsd is somewhat forgiving. You will have issues they can be very pushy.
I bought my shepherd a year ago, I’ve worked her every day and she’s great, I can take her anywhere!
I’m retired military so I have the time to put into her!
Great video. I love this channel. ❤.
youre awesome my dude keep up the good work!!
He’s gorgeous and such a typical GSD, all the drama and love 😂, worth the work to have one.
Love your videos, so much good advice
Thank you
Greetings from Romania! You are the first professional trainer that i saw providing this information,risking offending people!
Twenty years ago there was a Caucasian Shepherd boom across Europe.
I was amazed how many people bought them.
Every month on the news there was a story with people killed by caucasian shepherds.
Two weeks ago a caucasian shepherd escaped his cage and killed a child who entered the yard who s fence was on renovation.
I mean ,how stupid one person can be to think these breeds are fluffy Teddy bears?
These breeds are semi wild animals,finally ,here in my country,caucasian shepherds are bought by competent people.
But now we have a Malinois frenzy,history repeating itself...
I am 6 foot 6,300 pounds and a pretty strong guy,and i am very afraid of what a dominant working breed can do to me,but especially a caucasian shepherd.
I wish good health to you and your family!
I've used the pinning method with every dog I've owned. From English Bulldogs to Rottweilers. I promise you my Corso took the longest to realize I meant business. The smartest, most stubborn, wonderful dogs ever. If you're not willing to use this method... Please stick to chihuahuas or poodles.
I used this method with my first russian working line caucasian shepherd,because he was on to kill everybody.
I put a very thick textile bag on his head,and hold him down for at least one hour.
I was a god to him from then on.
I don t know why so many people condemn this method,saying this is brutality.
Chihuahua should get pinned more often, size doesnt say anything. So many chihuahua out of hand, well mostly because of the owners like usual. I like bigger dogs, got an malinois myself.
I got lucky that my corso is a big baby and really submissive. He was a nightmare to train in his adolescent years, plus I was only 14-15 and his primary (and mostly only) source of training. I can’t imagine taking on my brick house of a dog AND him constantly testing anyone for dominance.
I used on my west German half show line half working line shepherd. He was a lean 115lbs, but the pinning method works very well!
I started my Rottie pups learning handling like at the vets the day they came home. My vets could do just about anything such as blood draws, IV’s admin meds, clean ears, change dressings, remove staples with out issues. My Rotties thought going to the vets was a party🤣
God bless you brother - this video saved us
I’m on my second Czech working line german shepherd. It is a must to train right when you get them as puppies . Or you get this guy right here
I’ve had & worked many many working dogs over the years mainly Rottweilers, Shepherds, & Mals. & they were great! I’m 51 & was not looking for another high fight drive dog, so we bought a Chocolate Labrador. He’s a Field Trial Ch offspring & I’ve had to do this same thing with him. I was shocked that this Lab is more driven & headstrong then any Rottweiler I’ve owned. Working Dog is the words to pay attention to, they come in many different breeds. Good video!! I’m glad you’re keeping it real as opposed to the videos I see on here where it’s all lovey dovey, sometimes you need to establish pack leadership & it’s not pretty sometimes
Man thanks for yur expertise,
That’s the best way to show you are the boss..
Great video, I do this with all my dogs hold them down and show them I am the boss. I have 2 Presa Canarios, Xl Bully, working GSD, olde english bulldog and 2 frenchies.
Had GSD and Rottweilers half my life...all facts in this video. Great job!!
Love your videos! Id love to have one for a homestead protection dog along with a Malinois. Lots of people dont believe in discipline like this. Also my nieces name is Aria!
i had the same dog. everything this guy said is true. best dog in the world. hair impossible. smartest there is. 1 thing he left out. we picked a female that was not the pack leader. as a pup she got beat up by her litter mates. she was much more submissive and friendly right from the beginning. So when picking a puppy try and not choose 1 of the pack leader pups unless your a cop.
We already had an alpha female dachshund/beagle mix so the submissive female from the litter is a perfect fit
I know I’m late to the comments but I just discovered this channel. I have a working line GDS. he just turned 7 on the 28th. Only time he fought me was during bath time. He’s pretty laid back but I never allowed him to get the better of us. I grew up with them too. I love him so much and socialized him with people. I admit I got seriously lucky with him. Even the vet said I got lucky. I know he would hurt someone over us. So I’m aware of what he’s potentially capable of.. I taught my kids how to handle him. It was done with letting him know he doesn’t rule us, but without hurting him. I wouldn’t trade him for the world.
Can i ask why the vet said you got lucky ?
Wow, such a transformation in this dog. He's so happy and loving after you established the leadership and basic rules.
Is there significant difference in energy levels and temperament in the East German working lines vs the West German showlines?
Thank you putting together these videos! They are wonderful.
As someone who went from showline to working line GSDs: The DDR German Shepherd is a bloodline that was established during the Cold War era. The new bloodline would be able to withstand frigid winter temperatures and excel in military and police work. They are larger, stronger and have extremely high prey drive. I recommend talking to your local Schutzhund club members. They are very knowledgeable and can help you if you have questions / concerns.
Great video! I’m in a very similar situation with a 10 month old presa. Very dominate and strong. My dog is a complete a hole and I need help right now with this!
Super smart!! Dogs need to be comfortable laying. Great!!
I have never had a GSD. They are beautiful dogs. I love dog training I have had two rottis that I love to train and have as a.family dog. They are very quick to learn and very protective of family. I start training as soon as they are in there new home. I believe that is the key to having a great start with training. I have been watch your training methods and really like your methods of training.Thank you for your teaching and your years of service as a k9 handler. I look forward to learn more from you.
Lol, the hair everywhere part is spot on, yet ironically enough I find more cat hair in my house than dog hair. Long haired cats help you forget how much dog hair your GSD sheds FYI in case you want to pretend your dog isn’t turning your home into a house of hair.
Long coat GSD don’t shed much he normal coats shed a lot though
Thanks for making this video. Im a fan of your videos from iran country.
Beautiful shepherd
One of my dogs 3 prior owners and me. She was hopeless until I grabbed hold of her, threw her onto her futon, fake furs and cushions and told her I'm the boss here. There was literally a sigh of relief from the dog and a total change of gear (Like, "You love me enough to set boundaries and limits? I can respect that"). This was a dog even people with Doberman would back off from, and she could empty a dog park, walking her on a leash people would avoid her. When did her training begin? As soon as I got her.
Good job 👍
the truth!! I train so many dogs that have learned to throw tantrums. Even for just touching their paw
Very cool & beautiful dog, I'm highly interested in GSD & I may well go show line after watching 🤙
I've had a few German shepherds over the years and now I have a 14 week old German Shepherd puppy from someone who has mom and dad however I couldn't tell you if she's east , west German line or what.
Supposedly dad was retired police dog.
I started training her myself with the basics and tomorrow morning we start getting serious on training her to be a service dog.
I'm no pro but I have videos like yours to help. Thanks.
This guy is simply amazing. Subscribed!
I have a Czech working bloodline female as a puppy. She is a really tough dog and requires a firm but fair hand (and lots of love). I can only imagine what kind of disaster she would have been with a permissive or submissive owner. She is 1.5 years now and great with the family and safe with strangers.
Love these dogs. I dreamed of having one since I was a young child and came across the old Rin Tin Tin reruns on TV. I am on number 5 German shepherd. When we bought our first one I looked at his mother and father and knew the dog was a weapon and needed to be under human control. When you set who is boss and train these dogs they are the best best best ever dogs in the world. They love our family more than we love them. I bless the people who bred this dog to what it is today.
had the same situation with problem horses and owners. too many folks want to take short cuts and not do the extra work.
What a beautiful dog love to have him
Totally agree with everything you said. Guardian Angel Shepherds breed working line German Shepherds for families but they will only sell to pre-approved owners and will pick the puppy for the owner. The owner and puppy must be a good match!
Fantastic videos. Greetings from Portugal
Thank you
"Garret you're hurting the dog" Please positive only believers need to wake up.
I appreciate that you showed how you got to your results.
I understand why you'd go for this approach Cane Corsos look tough.
Your approach looksike a no nonsense approach. Badass👌
Not some magic 1 time attempt then the dog is fine.
I've acquired almost all of my dogs as 8 weeks old, and training started on day one. They learned very quickly that mouthing (not even biting) for any reason was a cardinal sin. It took months of work and consistent training and socialization, but I now have 4 excellent dogs.
Genuine question: What's the difference between mouthing and biting? And how do you teach a puppy how to use a "soft mouth" while playing? Cause after all playful a love bites can be accepted as it's their way to play and show affection, but not aggressive ones, so how do we teach them the difference?
@@apersonwhocantmoveitmoveit7688 GSD's are very good at bite modulation. Excellent in fact. When the puppy bites too hard, make it known by howling and giving their neck a little pinch. Allow them to suck on a finger (NOT bite) like a pacifier (some may not agree with this--but works for mine--including a 5 month old going through that stage now). When dogs play with each other, they also modulate their bites, which is why you don't see blood at the dog park. But, dogs do play-bite each other harder than what is comfortable for humans, so they much be clear on this distinction. Generally, start with a position of "no bite" and ease up as over time they get the idea of mouthing softly.
This is a pretty incredible turn around. I just recently found your videos and have been using them to learn as much as i can. My Wife and I are getting a GSD soon, i want to say he/she is more of an American Showline, but i think that the bloodline has some East German Working line, and Czech working line as well. I have a question that i havent been able to find online and was wondering if you wouldnt mind answering them?
1. Can this type of obedience training be done by two different individuals? I want my Wife to have the same type of control over the Dog as I do, and Im a Firefighter, and work 48 hour shifts. So i wont be there to train or exercise the dog every single day, so my Wife would be stepping in as well. I dont want this to cause any confusion with the dog, however.
Well done, also half the problem with some of the kids in America too. Need discipline and respect.
I’m not going to lie I screamed at the top of my lungs when I seen the x over that one TH-camr when you talked about positive reinforcement 😂😂 all his tactics worked perfectly until I got my precious velociraptor then it was definitely MMA wrestling til he got it that I was in charge
I have a 4 yr old GSD. And I’m 2 days we will pick up his brother. (Same breeder working line GSD but different parents). We live on 23 acres and Thor has his own room in the shop/ barn/ garage whatever you want to call it. Literally he has a bedroom with a window, HVAC and a custom dog door to come and go. He has a bed, blankets, toys etc. he is like a kid but can’t live inside bc my oldest is allergic. We spent the first year working, working and working. But it was so worth it. We thought long and hard if we were ready to do it again and we are excited. And sometimes we still have to lock the gate so he can o my run in the small fenced part of our yard bc people are afraid of him no matter what we say.
But he is awesome now. One thing he use to love doing was when packages would come he would get them off the porch and destroy what was in them. We used that to our advantage and now he gets the mail for us. (Some boxes are too big but the ones he can get.) But definitely it for everyone.
Had friends with a Doberman and he was well trained and still had an accidental and bit her sister bc she spooked him and after 24 hours and tears and not knowing what to do they put him down. They were devastated but didn’t feel like they could take the chance and he was trained and the sister that was bit was okay and didn’t want him put down. So people do have to be prepared and be willing to work.
Good analysis of the breed
Do you have videos on training small dogs? Poms, Yorkie, etc. I subbed
What is your take on Dobermans? I took in my parents Doberman & she was very dominant. We had her boarded & trained at the same time & she’s better now. Still a couple things we’re trying to get a little better with but she’s good for the most part
I LOVE my GSD! She has some working line in her. Positive only DID NOT work, but a mix of negative and positive did. The prong collar and e-collar work great with her. I rarely have to use any shock now; it's strictly vibration (Dogtra brand collar). She wasn't completely stupid when i got her, but she did have her moments, and i had to put her on her side. Otherwise, they're such amazing, smart animals that are well worth the work.
You are absolutely right about a good GSD being able to read your mind! Mine do it all of the time. They even can learn how to spell words! They are KEEAWSOME ANIMALS! My 4 mo. old is learning fast! Gameness is what these dogs,are all about! They are,too willing to work!
I think a lot of this info applies to owning a husky and husky mixes.
How would you know if you're pinning too often? What different types of behavior would you see then?
Greatest dogs ever!
And yes, everything I own is ALWAYS covered in hair.
Vacuuming is at least a daily occurrence.
If you’re willing to put in the time and effort, WL GDS’s are absolutely amazing - the best!
The only other thing I’d like to add; When looking for a WL GSD, please purchase from a reputable breeder - one that both competes in dog sports, and participates in health screenings.
A knowledgeable/ reputable breeder is an invaluable resource regarding health, training, and temperament.
It doesn't matter which breed of dog you get, they can all become dominant if you don't teach them discipline and who is in charge early on. My lab x border collie is nearly 11 months old now and does as she's told most of the time. She can be a pain at times as she's in the teenage phase, but I have also been using a crate from early on as she still likes to chew, but only when I'm not at home.
Of course you can get dominant behavior from other breeds. However, working dogs tend to have the occurrences much more often because they are bred to have those characteristics. Most supposed dominant issues is just a dog with no boundaries. True dominance isn't as common as most think
Yep. We love our GSD- but he is work!
your term "take the stupid out" is great.
It is what it is lol. Thanks for watching
100 % agreed
I have two working line East German and Czech males that are such great dogs, and coming from field bred lab gun dogs, I have to say that it prepared me pretty well, but these dogs are definitely more intense. Very important to work with your breeder to get what you want and to match what its going to be used for with the exact parents and pup. One of mine is higher drive and excellent at tracking, the other I told the breeder calm, calm, calm, and that's what I got. Totally different dogs and maybe will try to certify the other as a therapy dog. Definitely need firm guidance, exercise, and stimulation.
Thank you for watching and your comments
Where did you get your ddr at ? And how much he cost ? I’m looking for a milder one also
@@praisethelord5457 I got my second one which is a lot more laid back from a place in Missouri called crooked creek but they stopped breeding now.
@@midwestoutdoorsman awww ok I’ll keep looking. Thanks for the response!
@praisethelord5457 Idk what state you're looking but I know of a breeder in PA of the czech GSD. They're 2,500.
My dog is not quite two years but he needs intervention if he’s gonna be saved. I’m perfectly willing to do what’s necessary, but the learning curve on how it’s taking a little bit longer. I’ve got a really dominant headstrong one on my hand but I know if we can get him the right training and if I can learn how to handle him appropriately he’s going to be amazing.
Hi Kassi, please email us on info@diyk9.com for more information on our training programs.
It is one of the vidoes that tells you definitely not to do something but then you find yourself get encouraged to do it. A happy owner of a DDR for 2 months now and a firm no regret.
Any issues with owner aggression or growling ?
@@lojibaybee One or two times when he is trying to protect the food, but dealt with force swiftly and firmly. When a GSD is growling at you he is testing where your bottom line might be. You don't do anything you allow growling to become a daily norm. Let's just say a GSD especially an DDR is a behavioral programmable machine. You have to program the dog with correct behaviors spot on and time on.
@@catttcattt I’ve had some
Issues I’ve corrected but feel like I’ve gotten further being softer on him when i use strong corrections he doesn’t like it when i use positive methods he’s more accepting
@@lojibaybee The dog seller and breeder told me one shouldn't rely solely on force or on rewards. During the stay with him for the dog hand over, I noticed he is way tougher than me when he needs to go tough but hell, he acts like the dog's mummy when he rewards him. The dog buys the shit well. Still practicing the skills. I think you know how to properly handle your dog.
@@catttcatttyour right
Love this! We got a GSD he’s 8 weeks old and thankfully I’m a stay at home mother so I have all the time to train and socialize him however, my husband has little to do with him and does not listen to him but has no issue listening to me. How can I help this 😭
Unfortunately your husband will need to take time to train him. If he does very little with him they will not respect him enough to listen.
Just got one. Female! Her name is Benny. She is almost 6 month old, been with us for 2 months. Very bity but each and every day less. Super clean. On leash everyday better. Needs some socialization around dogs, didnt had any bad experience yet but never had her put to the test as in my sorrounds dont find many dogs but soon she will go few days to her dog breeder and dog trainer for some work.
*Me getting a working line GSD in a few months, Reading the title*
Hee hee hee😏
I %100 agree! 'Positive only' may work well for your labs and golden retrievers, but for a working dog, or even kind of working dog breeds, balanced dog training is really beat. It's quick, simple, and it gets the message across.
You are so right the end up n shelters because they can’t handle them
You guys should do a video with European Doberman
As someone who has lived the story this man is conveying, I can only give one bit of advice. Besides all the real world truth and honesty in this video, before you bring a WLGSD home, ask yourself a couple questions. First, "Am I willing to have my life revolve around this animal"? Second, "Am I willing to make a life long commitment to this animal"? In other words, commit to spending the time to understand the line and working to keep up with the training for life. To me, my opinion, if you answer no to either question, please look to another line of GSD. WL shepherds are probably not a good idea if you say no to either question.
My wife and I got through ours with the help of the right trainer. Cruz was one of the best shepherds I've had. He was my 5th. He was also my first WL. It was total hell the first three years. But with the proper training, we got some very good years with him before we had to put him down this summer. He has left a huge hole in our lives because we fully committed to him and did it for life. It's a little different between a pet line and WL commitment. So keep that in mind. But I miss the hours spent on the football field working with him. the hiking, the tugging etc. RIP big guy. We miss ya.
Johnny, thank you for sharing your experience. Very sorry for your loss.
@@AmericanStandardK9 Thanks for the reply. It's never easy.
We are currently starting to do some research on the line and trying possibly to decide on a reputable breeder for the DDR Shepherds. We're not going to rush it though. I can honestly admit, Cruz has taught my wife and I a lot more than we bargained for. Even with the bad, it was all worth it. But we are not totally set to the DDR line. We are entering with an open mind and a little more education this time.
Thanks again for the great video. It is the best example of the reality of dealing with a WL shepherd. I'm not a totally trusting person, but I find trust in truth. You deal in truth, good bad or indifferent. So I'll be checking out more videos. Thanks for taking your time in making them. You truly give a good service to the line by offering your knowledge.
What I like the most is, that you speak out very frankly that this breed is not for everyone.Could you please tell me how many times you had to pin him down in these four weeks of training?? Thank you
For this BS that you see here in this video this was pretty much the extent of this particular issue and we actually had no more silliness whatsoever after this. This was the last little bit of ironing out. Everything after this was smooth. But what we had to do in the days leading up to this was a different story altogether. He wouldn't even let me touch him, near him or even think about going into a down etc. We had to have a few conversations in the first few days when he tried to get stupid. This was just so I could get near him without him trying to bite me or muscle up to me etc. I don't remember the exact details of what stupidity he was trying but I also never let him play out his plan more than a second or two before he realized it was a very bad idea. By the time we get to this video, I had got him to let me touch him obviously, put him on his side, but when I laid on him with my chest very gently it was too dominant of a position for him and that's when he tried to buck the system. We were all good until I laid on him but these was the point was to continue to progress. We had been successfully building up to this point. Laying on him ever so slightly with my chest is what started this rodeo. I knew it was coming that's why we filmed it. The owner couldn't even brush him for the last 6 months because he would act stupid. The owner was afraid of him and afraid of getting bit. He was night and day difference when we brought him home. Thanks for watching.
@@AmericanStandardK9 Thank you very much for the answer 👍👍
Do you have a video on how to teach your working GSD puppy 10 weeks old not to bite. I have been able to do a few basic training things but now she thinks I’m one of her siblings or a toy and wants to play bite. When I tell her no or just ignore the behavior she barks at me and bites anyway.
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@@christinaflores9922 Hey, 10 week old, working line GSD... They will bite.. that's what they do. Have no expectations that the biting will stop anytime soon. This is who they are. You can redirect to toys, tugs or whatever, but they will still try to engage you with their mouths to some degree. No way around it and nothing to be worried about. Especially with little puppies, their teet are like needles, so be prepared :)
I had a West German working line GSD who was very obedient! I could take her to the vet and hand her off to a complete stranger and she would let them handle her without a problem. She had stitches at two and an X-ray at three years old and was completely cooperative.
I guess that's from working with her at an early age, or genetics?
How long did it take to get Chase under control ?
lets say i adopted a gsd puppy, how do i identify if it comes from a working or show line?
Geez, you literally had to use a jiu-jitsu technique on this dog to calm him down. Wow.