I'd say that losing Reach would be more like losing Mars to the Imperium than Cadia. I say that because Reach is the second most important planet to the UNSC.
I get what you're saying, but honestly Mars for the imperium is a far worse loss than Reach. Mostly because if Mars has fallen, than Terra is at risk Also, Halo's Mar's is also a massive production facility, producing arms, munitions, and likely ships as well. Most of the recovered industrial assets from Reach were sent to Mars to continue war production
Certainly. Reach was basically the second seat of Government for the UEG. A military and industrial powerhouse, a hotspot for all kinds of intelligence services and their projects. If it wasn't so close to Earths sphere of influence, it could become a capital of it's own. It also became an orbital graveyard, the UNSC lost many important assets their. The loss of Reach was the beginning of the end for Earth, the last straw.
The Imperiums is definitely more important than Halo's. Say, Earth/Terra is a 10/10, A backwater outer colony is a 1 or 2. Halo's Mar's is likely a 7-7.5. Meanwhile Mar's in 40K is the 2nd most important planet after Terra, so like a 9-9.5 I'll throw Reach on there as a 8.5-9 for comparison. Don't know enough positioning-wise to add Cadia @@MrPeabody67
In the book Master Chief returns to reach and finds Spartans and UNSC ground forces still fighting the Covenant on the grouund as well as what was left of the UNSC Airforce. Reach fell about as slowly and begrudgingly as possible.
@nobleman9393 You could call it that. But it shows that the battle for the planet lasted a decent amount of time, and Reach fell as begrudgingly as humanly possible. Also, it was a secondary fleet that was there. Remember the soon to be Arbiter took all the ships under his command in pursuit of the Pillar of Autumn. The other fleet commander decided to keep fighting over the planet. Trying to find artifacts. So it was the second fleet that was there fighting. And losing troops and ships because of Spartans plus Army plus Marines and what's left of the Airforce and Navy. Plus, fortified mountains equals a lot of dead troops when you're on the offense and can't just glass them because of buried artifacts. Which is why Chief found Spartans and others still fighting when he got back to Reach.
@@yorhano.2typeb141 There were still troops there . He found a number of other Spartans as well. They were engaging in unconventional warfare and getting their asses kicked very slowly . Reach basically fell as slowly and begrudgingly as possible. Note I siad he found them still fighting I didn't say how many were still fighting. Fact is Reach wasn't completely glassed. The Covenant at Reach mostly aimed at population centers and large bases . Then they sent in more ground forces. Ie not all of the Covenant ships chased down the Pillar of Autumn. There was still a fleet that stayed behind. And the forces on the ground continued fighting for several months after the UNSC high command had written them off as dead. And ordered any available forces to Earth to defend humanity's home world. Basically just because the battle was officially over doesn't mean the troops remaining on the planet waived a white flag and surrendered to an enemy that didn't really take prisoners. And would likely eat them. www.halopedia.org/Raid_on_Reach "Unlike most of their operations, Covenant forces had chosen to only selectively bombard Reach rather than glass the planet. The reason for this was that they were particularly interested in Forerunner artifacts, particularly a Forerunner crystal that they called the "Holy Light" which was located under ONI's Castle Base. As a result, at least two (if not more) groups of survivors remained on the planet." These surviving groups continued fighting and joined Chief and the other survivors from the battle of instillation 04. So as I said Reach fell as slowly and begrudgingly as possible. And you have to remember there wasn't an option to surrender to the Covenant and become a POW. The Xenos bastards would torture , kill and eat them. Not necessarily in that order. What was left of the air force was like a handful of craft fighting what amounts to aerial gorilla warfare, And yes they were losing as well. UNSC pilots that survived the war are basically Top Gun level Aces. And there are very few of them compared to the young pilots that replaced the dead obviously. So very few in number and were getting their asses kicked before Chief showed up as is the usual story for the UNSC ground forces. Which do note that every branch of the UNSC military has it's own air wing. The Army mainly focuses on in atmosphere fighting the Air Force works closely with the Army and shares assets including exoatmospharic capable craft like fighters and bombers with the Army. The Marines operate basically everything the Navy has. As though called a branch the Marines are more like a department of the Navy. So a mash of different aircraft and orbital capable craft fighting a losing war isn't a surprise when the other option is being killed anyways. At least this way they get to go out fighting. Again very , very few survivors of the battle of reach were left fighting to the bitter end. We're basically talking fighting on a localized level with no support for several months to delay the enemy. These men and women already know they are dead. They simply aren't dying without a fight. Humanity is stubborn to a fault that way. Any and all pieces of equipment they can scrap together they are using at this point.
Halo also has the best ship names in all of fiction. Some of my favorites include: Shadow of Intent Long Night of Solace Harbinger of Piety UNSC Say My Name UNSC Two For Flinching UNSC All Under Heaven UNSC Bum Rush UNSC Do You Feel Lucky?
I love all the covenant names are so grand while half the human ships were probably named while black out drunk. Sure they half the pillar of autumn, in ember clad and others but the sheer amount of goofy ship names says a lot 😂
To add a Few more of my favorites Ace of Spades (human salvage ship modified by Spark himself using Forerunner tech) Covenant CSO class Carrier, The Shadow of Intent UNSC frigate Forward Unto Dawn UNSC Eternity (Sister ship to the UNSC Infinity from H4) Covenant CSO class Carrier Ascendant Justice Covenant "Uneven Elephant" The Covenant repair, refit, and construction station that was the 2nd largest Covie mega structure barring High Charity, so aptly named by Sgt. johnson the "Uneven Elephant" (Unyielding Heirophant) Covenant Far Sight Lost Covenant Harbinger of Piety
My favorite UNSC ship names are: UNSC A Wink and A Grin UNSC Midsummer Night UNSC Midsummer Nightmare UNSC Mace of Justice UNSC All Under Heaven UNSC Tears Unnumbered UNSC The Color of Magic
So, Covenant Space GPS Identifies humans with a symbol they thought meant "Reclamation" It meant Reclaimer. The prophets gaslit the entire Covenant into thinking it meant that they had sinned against the forerunners. 2ndly, I'd like to acknowledge Admiral Whitecomb (The high ranking individual he talked about) who both utterly fucked up the ground defense of the MAC generators (A guy in charge of space combat called in an airstrike.... welp, there goes the Division defending the generators) He redeemed himself by single-handedly destroying more covenant ships with his 2 actions than any other individual during the war or after. Everyone knows he slipped the covies a Mickey, being that NOVA bomb they were developing at the time which destroyed nearly the entire elite fleet after going off several months later during the Covenant Skism. Cracking a moon and taking out a few thousand ships is always nice. The one that's not talked about is when he sacrificed himself (along with the single surviving ONI officer from the Pillar of Autumn, go figure) to stop the preemptive invasion of Earth. A fleet several times the size of the one that took Reach was being assembled. And he Kamakazied himself to lure the hundreds of vessels that would have been outside the range of the detonation that destroyed them all into range. That's all from First Strike, the novel that explains how Chief made it back to Earth after CE's events. It also has Linda hang 30 feet off a catwalk from a rope, and shoot multiple elites out of their banshee's(A target the size of a nickel). All while upside-down, one-handed, from several km's away. Most busted Spartan
The 40K Equivalent for the Human-Covenant War would be imagine if the 500 Worlds of Ultramar got so thoroughly decimated that the only thing left was McCragge.
Not quite but close. The Covenant actually ignored worlds that didn't have Forerunner artifacts on them. And officially only fully glassed 76 worlds which happened to be the most important worlds with the largest population centers. The vast majority of the outer colonies where simply abandoned or lost contact with the UEG/UNSC and were later reestablished in terms of contact though the locals are like wtf . So Imagine that same situation but McCragge lost contact with nearly 30% of its worlds and the rest where destroyed or attacked by an alien force that wiped out the population the only thing left being effectively the solar system that McCragge is in for defense. Every ship they have left is called to the solar system to defend McCragge abandoning any other regions they were in. That's what the UNSC was dealing with. 76 fully destroyed , 100 -200 worlds attacked , 210 to 310 worlds lost contact presumed destroyed by the end of the world levling only 14 worlds able to come to McCragge's aid. In other worlds the Covenant bypassed a lot of world but the UNSC/UEG lost contact with those worlds anyways so couldn't rely on those reenforcements. This is also why the UNSC has put so much effort into FTL communications technology since then. So they can communicate across interstellar space. The loss of communication is the reason their defense fleet at what halo currently calls Earth. Consisted of a few hundred instead of a few thousand ships of various classifications. Most of their planets defense fleets had no ideal Earth was even under attack because they had lost communication.
What is ironic Oni wanted supersoldeirs to fight human insurrectionist, they hired Halsey they even put money and resources into the program and help kidnapped 75 children. Oni made Spartan-IIs public with propaganda and some people found out about the origin of the Spartan-IIs they were not happy. Oni were also responsible for ODST's hated for the Spartan-IIs and after the war Oni decided to put all the blame on Halsey. As much how we as viewers feel about Halsey, most all Spartan-IIs like Master Chief, Linda, Kelly, Fred, Jorge, Kurt, Jerome, Douglas and Alice all respected Halsey and accepted for what they were now, some even view her as the closest thing they had to a mother at times and Chief Mendez as their father figure.
Reach will be remembered as one of the greatest last stand linear storytelling portions of lore ever. If only there were more instances like this. I can hardly remember a vigilant last stand in central importsnt magnitude of Reach in Star Wars Expanded Universe even during the Yuuzhan Vong war. Thel'Vadam will be remembering Reach just as much as the UNSC for the remainder of his days.
Hey, don't speak ill of the Yu-Vongs. They made the impossible, possible. The re-greened Coruscant. Good job, you slaving, biomechanical ship wielding Assclowns. But yes, the fall of Reach was a punch in the guts. With a wrecking ball. I think in second comes the Sinking Of Jacinto in Gears of War. I mean, they defended that city for years, they almost succeeded it's defense, just to see that damn plateau go down. The last bastion of Humanity, gone in minutes. And the cherry on top of that shittstained Strawberry Sunday of a loss, was the following Lambent Crisis.
@@ThePandoraGuy Yeah, but in a wider perspective the final battle Coruscant isn't really as grim as it could have been. Corucant was messed up and likely hundreds of billions perished however the Yuuzhan Vong were in a pretty desperate situation at that point as the entire galaxy was rallying against them with it's full industrial might and so many of the demographic population joining the alliance and the Yuuzhan Vong hardly had the manpower and powerbase to keep up with that for much longer even if they did win battle they would have lost the long term war. With the Covenant they had the advantage over the UNSC at every fundamental level and nearly destroyed all their worlds.
I think you mean that Cadia was the Reach of 40K. Cadia is nothing compared to the true hopelessness and defense of humanities second most defended planet, falling like nothing under the march of the Covenant. Halo's humanity during the Human-Covenant war is what GW wants you to think Humanity is in 40k, beset on all sides losing an unwinnable war against the overwhelming odds of the galaxy. (Also yes all of Halos ships are amazing because most are literally built around the mac gun, which gives them their classic "gun" shape, because the whole ship is literally just a nuke-railgun. However the Spirit of Fire is my absolute favorite, a colony-ship turned military vessel that shows up randomly and kills everything. It's like the Grombrindil/Gotrix of Halo.)
Except ONI manipulated Halsey into doing that in the first place. Kept tabs on her since her teenage years, followed her throughout her college and doctorate studies, and after developing a psychological profile used the most effective method they could to manipulate her into going ahead with the Spartan program with their blessing. Not saying that Halsey is blameless - she herself acknowledges everything she did and considers herself beyond atonement, simply putting the safety of the Spartans ahead of even her own now - but ONI was fully to blame on that one. More than one occasion we had Halsey wanting to stall for time as she began to truly comprehend the human cost beyond mere theory, to find safer and more humane alternatives, and even her personal AIs like Deja pointed out that if she hesitated at all ONI simply would've replaced her.... likely with someone both less competent and without an ounce of sympathy or good intentions regarding the Spartans' wellbeing. Yeah, Halsey fucked up, but the irony is that so much of the fandom's perception is COLORED by the very narrative that ONI wanted to spread in using her as a scapegoat. The novels that really pushed that narrative were from Parangosky's perspective - the head of ONI who greenlit the Spartan IIs before Halsey was ever involved. Not a single thing the project did was without Parangosky knowing about it and signing off on it with the sole exception of Cortana's creation, and she had the gall to blame Halsey for her friend's suicide - a man Parangosky herself placed on the project. More than that Parangosky then went on to start the Spartan III program with Ackerson behind Halsey's back with the full awareness that they'd be sending children to die 300 at a time - explicitly trading lives for time. If anything the vast majority of the blame lays at Parangosky's feet, along with the rest of ONI brass. They used Halsey to achieve the ends they wanted and then discarded her when she became inconvenient, heaping the war crime charges on Halsey as a scapegoat while they got away completely clean and free.
It’s kind of hilarious in a morbid way that both Reach and Earth were accidentally invaded by covenant because of the forerunner artefacts. And ONI was still scratching their head over how that happened, to quote a crazy smart man with desire to having tits: “This is intelligence, start using it!”
Humanity absolutely knew about the war. What they didn't know was how imminent our loss was, and they made sure that people didn't know when THEY were about to die. Like everyone knows that entire colonies are disappearing, but you don't find out the guys who did it are about to bang down your door until they actually show up to do it.
REACH BROKE BEFORE THE SPARTANS DID!!! Edit: In reference to Pancreas' mention of "60% of the UNSC Fleet at Reach" line, I'm personally convinced that this is in regard to the Epsilon Eridani Defense Fleet as a military unit and not as shorthand for the entire human navy. My reasoning for this is due to the lack of any other named or numbered fleets being referenced during the Defense of Reach and the Epsilon Eridani System in general. In comparison, we know that no less than six fleets were involved in the Defense of Earth and the Sol System. The Fleets in being: Home Fleet, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 7th, and 16th. To my knowledge, the only one of these named Fleets that can be argued for participating in the Defense of Reach would be the 7th, with a single frigate being contributed in the UNSC Aegis Fate. The other 250+ ships involved in the Fall were assigned to the Epsilon Eridani Defense Fleet. Had 60% of the whole UNSC Navy been sent to Reach, then it would not have Fallen to the force canonically sent in either the novel or game. The Covenant would have been required to send a mess of reinforcements to take Reach at that point! So yes, I guess I'm one of those "Reach *could* have been saved" people now. However, it is with the caveats that the UNSC actually sends reinforcements from out system instead of leaving Reach out to glass and provided that the Covenant doesn't just throw the High Charity Defense Fleet at the problem. If someone actually bothered reading this far, then thank you for your time. =)
no it was a solid 60% of the fleet, by this point the war against the covenant has been going for almost 25 years and according to the lore we had lost almost every space engagement against the covenant unless the UNSC had a 3 to 1 advantage and even then it was no guarantee of victory. TL;DR several decades of war have depleted the UNSC navy and territorially meaning less space to patrol and fewer ships with which to do it and so are likely to be holding more strategic locations instead.
They absolutely sent 60 percent reach was considered more vital to humanity than earth. Earth having scraps of fleets doesnt break this as a number becuase when reach was considered lost human ships that could escape would have done so to regroup or defend earth.
@@Akbar_and_Shaa In First Strike, it is mentioned only 20 ships survived to regroup at Earth. The 60% figure *must* be false due to the greater number of ships at Earth after the Fall. If 60% had been committed and lost, then there shouldn't be a fleet at Earth that could hold a candle to what was deployed at Reach; and yet, we see dozens of cruisers and hundreds of frigates at Earth in numbers Reach could only dream of. ONI took advantage of Reach being found in an attempt to draw out a Class-5 Flagship for Red Flag's S-IIs to capture. Reach was left on it's own to draw in as many high profile Covenant ships as possible to give RED FLAG a target rich environment so that it's success might bring about a negotiated peace with the Covenant. (Personally, I consider this to be a terrible gambit. So many irreplaceable assets sacrificed for a shot in the dark that led to nothing.)
@@Genesis50000 The 3 to 1 figure is a variable, not a constant. UNSC commanders like Keyes, Stanforth and Patterson don't obey this "rule", as seen at Sigma Octanus IV, Reach, and Onyx. My rebuttal involves looking at the list of UNSC colonies on Halopedia, which I consider a verified source. I intend to classify the colonies listed as: Glassed-(UNSC naval defeat), Attacked-(UNSC naval victory), Untouched-(The colony was never attacked), and Unknown-(Information about a colony's status is unavailable). The point of this is find the ratio of glassed colonies to surviving worlds and thereby estimate the UNSC's remaining power projection capability. The results of my findings are as follows: Glassed:64 Attacked:36 Untouched:52 Unknown:6 The number of attacked worlds indicates that the UNSC had a 1 in 3 chance of winning a naval engagement against the Covenant. Also, it's obvious the total of these listings only adds up to 158 colonies, so I'd like to multiply these figures by a factor of 6 so that the ratios can be extrapolated to the 800+ to 1000+ colonies the UNSC/UEG is stated to have in the 2500s. Now that the totals are closer to representing all human worlds, the figures would be: Glassed:384 Attacked:216 Untouched:312 Unknown:36 This gives us the conclusion that in 27 years of genocide, the Covenant haven't been able to eliminate half of humanity yet. With this to go off of, we can conclude that the UNSC has too many worlds left to defend to bother sending 60% of the entire Navy to defend a single system. That being said, reinforcements *could* have been sent to prevent the Fall, had Reach not been left on it's own so that RED FLAG could have a higher chance of success. Oh, quick ask, what does TLDR mean? I've seen it used, but have never thought to ask what it meant.
@Augment_Failure it is possible if the remaining 40 percent are recalled to earth when its attacked since its literally the last stand. Moreover if you site the first strike youd know that reach the game explicitly states 60 percent of unsc forces and game events and statements are higher in tier of canon. But even if it werent you can still have those ships at earth and just say its the last 40 percent plus what escaped reach when it fell.
8:25 Reminds me of an image I've seen taken from a Guardians of the Galaxy comic (no I don't know the exact issue) where you see a few characters (including Rocket Racoon) with fancy space guns that are just straight up ships from Halo. At least it's not as bad as that time someone made a Venom comic and had directly imported 3d models of Tau Devilfish as alien ships.
Grafton is cool and all but don’t forget that the UNSC Aegis Fate was there with it and then proceeded to survive Reach and be there for the Ark portal activation in Halo 3
Something funny: at 11:37 Jorge doesn't actually throw you far enough to clear the ship, and you can see in the cutscene before the third-person switch that Six just slids those last few feet on their back.
Holy hell! Halsey is basically Astarte and Erda combined. (Technically the other way round) The “humanity’s next evolution” not totally meant to kill humans and only became heroes because aliens happened to show up.
I wonder how the nations of New Eden from Eve Online would fair against the Covenant. They have some really really big ships and they plenty of them with big populations. I think a few Capsuleer fleets with a Titan or three defending Reach they may be able to make Thel'Vadam's assault fleet in Reach sweat alot because it would be a heavy challenge and would have to resort to indepth strageies and tactics to fight the present Capsuleers. A Supreme Commander ACU should be able to defend the planetary ground from the Covenant pretty well with overwhelming industrial output and spawning endless defenses.
Five months into the war the knew was disclosed that we were at war So when reach was going on all of humanity knew the human covenant war was going on
It was Kats' death that really made us realize these Ultimate Super Soliders are not invincible like they are portrayed through the other games with Master Chief.
8:26 I remember this game I played a while ago called dreadnought, which was basically a team-based pvp game using ships, and there’s legit ships in that game that are USC ships, guns with engines
In my opinion reach was pasicly what you would get if you mix cadia and mars from 40k into one extremely important to close to earth for comfort and the most heavely fortified planet that wasnt earth itself.
Recently play the entire Halo series with a friend and it was his first time ever and we did it in release order he had gotten interest by watching the show which is absolutely garbage when she came to realize. So we were already completed three games by the time we got to reach and when the mission Lone Wolf came up I did minimal talking and right when I knew I was about to die I told him goodbye it had been a pleasure serving with him and then I muted my mic for the entirety until he died. I finally unmuted once we got back to the MCC menu and he was an absolute shock. One he couldn't understand why the show after playing four games now was so horrible and two he didn't realize how almost almost perfect game could actually be. And he spent hundreds of thousands of hours playing video games as he does it for a living and he said that he has never played anything remotely close to Halo 1 through 3 and Halo Reach
The slipspace rupture detected spam is top 10 "humanity is boned" sci fi moments, along with caprica's nuking, battle of the line, kalsim's extermination fleet breaking the venlil flank, and choose 6 more.
@@janehrahan5116 I did not expect to see a Nature of Predators reference at all. I've only found it like a month ago by myself and have never heard of it before. Good read.
@@Azorees-oj5zr Current astronomical knowledge can detect not only distant planets and whatnot. But also their chemical composition. It should stand to reason with the Covenant advance technology. They should detect distant human worlds with signals showing everywhere. Internet, radios, etc. Yet somehow the Covenant are blind.
It gets brought up briefly in some of the side material. To quote the character in question, when talking about signal interception of Covenant communiques… “Space… is big. Very, VERY big. We need to be in the right place at the right time to get anything.”
@@Tinandel And how about ground intelligence like family photos, school books etc?. I mean there must be millions of tourists going around UNSC space. Covenant sure suck at gathering them. Or they just burn everything else and hope to find the rest.
They did know, the war was made public 6 months into the first year of it, they made it public alongside the Spartans because Draco III happened (a legit massacre with Covenant let to hunt and eat everyone or just have fun and whatnot as a Prophet war experiment, the entire planet was eaten and slaughtered), and the leadership was like "Yeah, this one can't be hidden" and decided to deploy THE ENTIRETY of the available Spartan-IIs after hammering the weak stationed Covie orbital support, leaving them stranded. Then the Spartans and support came down and support RECORDED EVERYTHING, showing the Spartans practically retaking a planet by themselves and using the footage as a rally propaganda to enlist and fight the Covenant. They also made fake background careers for the Spartans as Marines who rose quickly and gave themselves for the S-II experiments and to hide the "kidnapping and indoctrionation of 150 candidates as kids" bit. The ONI and the UNSC made a heavy censorship effort to keep the facade of humanity and the Covenant more or less inflicting equally devastating loses on each engagement but it completely fell apart when Earth was found by the Covenant at the start of Halo 2. This is well known as the people of Earth really believed that despite Reach falling, there was still hope. Only for the illusion to completely fall apart once a metric ton of carriers came into orbit after a massive space battle between the remaining human vessels ready to engage in the Sol System and the nonstop arrivals of Covenant ships completely left the humans with almost no orbital or space faring support of any kind. The only ones who kinda managed to hold out were some rebel worlds that completely shut themselves and their telecommunications off after most of the outer colonies under UEG rule and some of the free colonies also fell. The Covenant never found them. And now that the war is over many of them are buying Covie tier or makeshift new era alien tech from ethnical origin to create massive nets of AA batteries with beyond atmospherical effective range on a planetary defense system scale to stop any sort of funny invader, be it human or alien, from trying to threaten the planets. Most of their hardware is being bought from Jackal traders, the race in halo that is space pirates by pure genetics and evolution.
The only thing that interprets the Banished being as powerful as the Covenant is kinda crappy wording by an AI (or the writers morelike), otherwise non, the Banished are nowhere near Covenant levels of powerful, just a bit more flexible. Also the Banished for the most part actively avoid UNSC attention, but good luck with that post-Infinite.
14:35 eveyone knew about the war. they have been fighting for 30 years and lost most of their colonies at this point. not something that can be kept secret and no reason to anymore.
‘Good’ in this case means competent. Kidnapping children and turning them into child supersoldiers (John-117 was only 15 when the Covenant began their invasion) is not ‘good’.
And oh. Finally someone covers this. And the epicness. All the spartan II’s except blue team and a few others died. No. No Spartan iii’s existed.yet. No matter what is said. Was all Spartan II’s s at this point.
@14:50 No it was that people didn’t know just HOW bad the war was going. The general populace knew we were at war but no idea that we had lost so many already or just outclassed we were.
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UNSC ships are often referred to as "A MAC cannon with engine pogs strapped on the back"
Engine pogs?
A real poggers design
@@brok56 Did someone said pogs??? Wanna see my pogs collection from the 90's :D.
@@ThePandoraGuypoggy woggy
I'd say that losing Reach would be more like losing Mars to the Imperium than Cadia.
I say that because Reach is the second most important planet to the UNSC.
I get what you're saying, but honestly Mars for the imperium is a far worse loss than Reach. Mostly because if Mars has fallen, than Terra is at risk
Also, Halo's Mar's is also a massive production facility, producing arms, munitions, and likely ships as well. Most of the recovered industrial assets from Reach were sent to Mars to continue war production
@@owenkasaboski6902What's between the Imperium's Mars and UNSC's Reach on the priority scale?
Certainly. Reach was basically the second seat of Government for the UEG. A military and industrial powerhouse, a hotspot for all kinds of intelligence services and their projects. If it wasn't so close to Earths sphere of influence, it could become a capital of it's own. It also became an orbital graveyard, the UNSC lost many important assets their.
The loss of Reach was the beginning of the end for Earth, the last straw.
The Imperiums is definitely more important than Halo's. Say, Earth/Terra is a 10/10, A backwater outer colony is a 1 or 2. Halo's Mar's is likely a 7-7.5. Meanwhile Mar's in 40K is the 2nd most important planet after Terra, so like a 9-9.5
I'll throw Reach on there as a 8.5-9 for comparison. Don't know enough positioning-wise to add Cadia @@MrPeabody67
@@owenkasaboski6902reach is extremely close to Earth to the point it can be detected from Reach, meaning Earth is 100% doomed of Reach falls.
In the book Master Chief returns to reach and finds Spartans and UNSC ground forces still fighting the Covenant on the grouund as well as what was left of the UNSC Airforce.
Reach fell about as slowly and begrudgingly as possible.
You mean a mop-up operation?
@nobleman9393 You could call it that. But it shows that the battle for the planet lasted a decent amount of time, and Reach fell as begrudgingly as humanly possible.
Also, it was a secondary fleet that was there. Remember the soon to be Arbiter took all the ships under his command in pursuit of the Pillar of Autumn. The other fleet commander decided to keep fighting over the planet. Trying to find artifacts.
So it was the second fleet that was there fighting. And losing troops and ships because of Spartans plus Army plus Marines and what's left of the Airforce and Navy. Plus, fortified mountains equals a lot of dead troops when you're on the offense and can't just glass them because of buried artifacts.
Which is why Chief found Spartans and others still fighting when he got back to Reach.
If you're talking about First Strike, there was no UNSC ground forces or air force by the time Chief returned to Reach
@@yorhano.2typeb141 There were still troops there . He found a number of other Spartans as well. They were engaging in unconventional warfare and getting their asses kicked very slowly . Reach basically fell as slowly and begrudgingly as possible.
Note I siad he found them still fighting I didn't say how many were still fighting. Fact is Reach wasn't completely glassed. The Covenant at Reach mostly aimed at population centers and large bases . Then they sent in more ground forces. Ie not all of the Covenant ships chased down the Pillar of Autumn. There was still a fleet that stayed behind. And the forces on the ground continued fighting for several months after the UNSC high command had written them off as dead. And ordered any available forces to Earth to defend humanity's home world.
Basically just because the battle was officially over doesn't mean the troops remaining on the planet waived a white flag and surrendered to an enemy that didn't really take prisoners. And would likely eat them. www.halopedia.org/Raid_on_Reach
"Unlike most of their operations, Covenant forces had chosen to only selectively bombard Reach rather than glass the planet. The reason for this was that they were particularly interested in Forerunner artifacts, particularly a Forerunner crystal that they called the "Holy Light" which was located under ONI's Castle Base. As a result, at least two (if not more) groups of survivors remained on the planet."
These surviving groups continued fighting and joined Chief and the other survivors from the battle of instillation 04.
So as I said Reach fell as slowly and begrudgingly as possible. And you have to remember there wasn't an option to surrender to the Covenant and become a POW. The Xenos bastards would torture , kill and eat them. Not necessarily in that order.
What was left of the air force was like a handful of craft fighting what amounts to aerial gorilla warfare, And yes they were losing as well. UNSC pilots that survived the war are basically Top Gun level Aces. And there are very few of them compared to the young pilots that replaced the dead obviously. So very few in number and were getting their asses kicked before Chief showed up as is the usual story for the UNSC ground forces.
Which do note that every branch of the UNSC military has it's own air wing. The Army mainly focuses on in atmosphere fighting the Air Force works closely with the Army and shares assets including exoatmospharic capable craft like fighters and bombers with the Army. The Marines operate basically everything the Navy has. As though called a branch the Marines are more like a department of the Navy. So a mash of different aircraft and orbital capable craft fighting a losing war isn't a surprise when the other option is being killed anyways. At least this way they get to go out fighting.
Again very , very few survivors of the battle of reach were left fighting to the bitter end. We're basically talking fighting on a localized level with no support for several months to delay the enemy. These men and women already know they are dead. They simply aren't dying without a fight. Humanity is stubborn to a fault that way. Any and all pieces of equipment they can scrap together they are using at this point.
Halo also has the best ship names in all of fiction. Some of my favorites include:
Shadow of Intent
Long Night of Solace
Harbinger of Piety
UNSC Say My Name
UNSC Two For Flinching
UNSC All Under Heaven
UNSC Bum Rush
UNSC Do You Feel Lucky?
I’m partial to the UNSC Above Us Only Sky
I love all the covenant names are so grand while half the human ships were probably named while black out drunk. Sure they half the pillar of autumn, in ember clad and others but the sheer amount of goofy ship names says a lot 😂
@@LukasJampen You can definitely tell which ones were to be flagships and were named by admirals and which ones they left the naming to the grunts.
To add a Few more of my favorites
Ace of Spades (human salvage ship modified by Spark himself using Forerunner tech)
Covenant CSO class Carrier, The Shadow of Intent
UNSC frigate Forward Unto Dawn
UNSC Eternity (Sister ship to the UNSC Infinity from H4)
Covenant CSO class Carrier Ascendant Justice
Covenant "Uneven Elephant" The Covenant repair, refit, and construction station that was the 2nd largest Covie mega structure barring High Charity, so aptly named by Sgt. johnson the "Uneven Elephant" (Unyielding Heirophant)
Covenant Far Sight Lost
Covenant Harbinger of Piety
My favorite UNSC ship names are:
UNSC A Wink and A Grin
UNSC Midsummer Night
UNSC Midsummer Nightmare
UNSC Mace of Justice
UNSC All Under Heaven
UNSC Tears Unnumbered
UNSC The Color of Magic
So, Covenant Space GPS Identifies humans with a symbol they thought meant "Reclamation" It meant Reclaimer. The prophets gaslit the entire Covenant into thinking it meant that they had sinned against the forerunners.
2ndly, I'd like to acknowledge Admiral Whitecomb (The high ranking individual he talked about) who both utterly fucked up the ground defense of the MAC generators (A guy in charge of space combat called in an airstrike.... welp, there goes the Division defending the generators)
He redeemed himself by single-handedly destroying more covenant ships with his 2 actions than any other individual during the war or after. Everyone knows he slipped the covies a Mickey, being that NOVA bomb they were developing at the time which destroyed nearly the entire elite fleet after going off several months later during the Covenant Skism. Cracking a moon and taking out a few thousand ships is always nice.
The one that's not talked about is when he sacrificed himself (along with the single surviving ONI officer from the Pillar of Autumn, go figure) to stop the preemptive invasion of Earth. A fleet several times the size of the one that took Reach was being assembled. And he Kamakazied himself to lure the hundreds of vessels that would have been outside the range of the detonation that destroyed them all into range.
That's all from First Strike, the novel that explains how Chief made it back to Earth after CE's events.
It also has Linda hang 30 feet off a catwalk from a rope, and shoot multiple elites out of their banshee's(A target the size of a nickel). All while upside-down, one-handed, from several km's away. Most busted Spartan
Best sniper ever in science fiction. And she awakened my fascination for redheads with green eyes.
The 40K Equivalent for the Human-Covenant War would be imagine if the 500 Worlds of Ultramar got so thoroughly decimated that the only thing left was McCragge.
Not quite but close. The Covenant actually ignored worlds that didn't have Forerunner artifacts on them. And officially only fully glassed 76 worlds which happened to be the most important worlds with the largest population centers. The vast majority of the outer colonies where simply abandoned or lost contact with the UEG/UNSC and were later reestablished in terms of contact though the locals are like wtf . So Imagine that same situation but McCragge lost contact with nearly 30% of its worlds and the rest where destroyed or attacked by an alien force that wiped out the population the only thing left being effectively the solar system that McCragge is in for defense. Every ship they have left is called to the solar system to defend McCragge abandoning any other regions they were in. That's what the UNSC was dealing with.
76 fully destroyed , 100 -200 worlds attacked , 210 to 310 worlds lost contact presumed destroyed by the end of the world levling only 14 worlds able to come to McCragge's aid. In other worlds the Covenant bypassed a lot of world but the UNSC/UEG lost contact with those worlds anyways so couldn't rely on those reenforcements. This is also why the UNSC has put so much effort into FTL communications technology since then. So they can communicate across interstellar space. The loss of communication is the reason their defense fleet at what halo currently calls Earth. Consisted of a few hundred instead of a few thousand ships of various classifications. Most of their planets defense fleets had no ideal Earth was even under attack because they had lost communication.
What is ironic Oni wanted supersoldeirs to fight human insurrectionist, they hired Halsey they even put money and resources into the program and help kidnapped 75 children.
Oni made Spartan-IIs public with propaganda and some people found out about the origin of the Spartan-IIs they were not happy. Oni were also responsible for ODST's hated for the Spartan-IIs and after the war Oni decided to put all the blame on Halsey.
As much how we as viewers feel about Halsey, most all Spartan-IIs like Master Chief, Linda, Kelly, Fred, Jorge, Kurt, Jerome, Douglas and Alice all respected Halsey and accepted for what they were now, some even view her as the closest thing they had to a mother at times and Chief Mendez as their father figure.
Reach will be remembered as one of the greatest last stand linear storytelling portions of lore ever. If only there were more instances like this. I can hardly remember a vigilant last stand in central importsnt magnitude of Reach in Star Wars Expanded Universe even during the Yuuzhan Vong war.
Thel'Vadam will be remembering Reach just as much as the UNSC for the remainder of his days.
Hey, don't speak ill of the Yu-Vongs. They made the impossible, possible. The re-greened Coruscant. Good job, you slaving, biomechanical ship wielding Assclowns.
But yes, the fall of Reach was a punch in the guts. With a wrecking ball. I think in second comes the Sinking Of Jacinto in Gears of War. I mean, they defended that city for years, they almost succeeded it's defense, just to see that damn plateau go down. The last bastion of Humanity, gone in minutes. And the cherry on top of that shittstained Strawberry Sunday of a loss, was the following Lambent Crisis.
@@ThePandoraGuy
Yeah, but in a wider perspective the final battle Coruscant isn't really as grim as it could have been. Corucant was messed up and likely hundreds of billions perished however the Yuuzhan Vong were in a pretty desperate situation at that point as the entire galaxy was rallying against them with it's full industrial might and so many of the demographic population joining the alliance and the Yuuzhan Vong hardly had the manpower and powerbase to keep up with that for much longer even if they did win battle they would have lost the long term war.
With the Covenant they had the advantage over the UNSC at every fundamental level and nearly destroyed all their worlds.
Cassiopeia's war against the Machines from Once upon Time and Space or the Balam industries' last stand on Rubicon.
I think you mean that Cadia was the Reach of 40K. Cadia is nothing compared to the true hopelessness and defense of humanities second most defended planet, falling like nothing under the march of the Covenant. Halo's humanity during the Human-Covenant war is what GW wants you to think Humanity is in 40k, beset on all sides losing an unwinnable war against the overwhelming odds of the galaxy.
(Also yes all of Halos ships are amazing because most are literally built around the mac gun, which gives them their classic "gun" shape, because the whole ship is literally just a nuke-railgun. However the Spirit of Fire is my absolute favorite, a colony-ship turned military vessel that shows up randomly and kills everything. It's like the Grombrindil/Gotrix of Halo.)
Except ONI manipulated Halsey into doing that in the first place. Kept tabs on her since her teenage years, followed her throughout her college and doctorate studies, and after developing a psychological profile used the most effective method they could to manipulate her into going ahead with the Spartan program with their blessing. Not saying that Halsey is blameless - she herself acknowledges everything she did and considers herself beyond atonement, simply putting the safety of the Spartans ahead of even her own now - but ONI was fully to blame on that one. More than one occasion we had Halsey wanting to stall for time as she began to truly comprehend the human cost beyond mere theory, to find safer and more humane alternatives, and even her personal AIs like Deja pointed out that if she hesitated at all ONI simply would've replaced her.... likely with someone both less competent and without an ounce of sympathy or good intentions regarding the Spartans' wellbeing.
Yeah, Halsey fucked up, but the irony is that so much of the fandom's perception is COLORED by the very narrative that ONI wanted to spread in using her as a scapegoat. The novels that really pushed that narrative were from Parangosky's perspective - the head of ONI who greenlit the Spartan IIs before Halsey was ever involved. Not a single thing the project did was without Parangosky knowing about it and signing off on it with the sole exception of Cortana's creation, and she had the gall to blame Halsey for her friend's suicide - a man Parangosky herself placed on the project. More than that Parangosky then went on to start the Spartan III program with Ackerson behind Halsey's back with the full awareness that they'd be sending children to die 300 at a time - explicitly trading lives for time. If anything the vast majority of the blame lays at Parangosky's feet, along with the rest of ONI brass. They used Halsey to achieve the ends they wanted and then discarded her when she became inconvenient, heaping the war crime charges on Halsey as a scapegoat while they got away completely clean and free.
It’s kind of hilarious in a morbid way that both Reach and Earth were accidentally invaded by covenant because of the forerunner artefacts. And ONI was still scratching their head over how that happened, to quote a crazy smart man with desire to having tits: “This is intelligence, start using it!”
Humanity absolutely knew about the war. What they didn't know was how imminent our loss was, and they made sure that people didn't know when THEY were about to die.
Like everyone knows that entire colonies are disappearing, but you don't find out the guys who did it are about to bang down your door until they actually show up to do it.
The best thing about the UNSC And their ships, they either look like a gun or a brick and they look amazing.
They are flying guns with a ship built around the gun(s) and more guns and missile launchers added to the ship on the outside.
REACH BROKE BEFORE THE SPARTANS DID!!!
Edit: In reference to Pancreas' mention of "60% of the UNSC Fleet at Reach" line, I'm personally convinced that this is in regard to the Epsilon Eridani Defense Fleet as a military unit and not as shorthand for the entire human navy.
My reasoning for this is due to the lack of any other named or numbered fleets being referenced during the Defense of Reach and the Epsilon Eridani System in general.
In comparison, we know that no less than six fleets were involved in the Defense of Earth and the Sol System. The Fleets in being: Home Fleet, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 7th, and 16th. To my knowledge, the only one of these named Fleets that can be argued for participating in the Defense of Reach would be the 7th, with a single frigate being contributed in the UNSC Aegis Fate. The other 250+ ships involved in the Fall were assigned to the Epsilon Eridani Defense Fleet. Had 60% of the whole UNSC Navy been sent to Reach, then it would not have Fallen to the force canonically sent in either the novel or game. The Covenant would have been required to send a mess of reinforcements to take Reach at that point!
So yes, I guess I'm one of those "Reach *could* have been saved" people now. However, it is with the caveats that the UNSC actually sends reinforcements from out system instead of leaving Reach out to glass and provided that the Covenant doesn't just throw the High Charity Defense Fleet at the problem.
If someone actually bothered reading this far, then thank you for your time. =)
no it was a solid 60% of the fleet, by this point the war against the covenant has been going for almost 25 years and according to the lore we had lost almost every space engagement against the covenant unless the UNSC had a 3 to 1 advantage and even then it was no guarantee of victory. TL;DR several decades of war have depleted the UNSC navy and territorially meaning less space to patrol and fewer ships with which to do it and so are likely to be holding more strategic locations instead.
They absolutely sent 60 percent reach was considered more vital to humanity than earth. Earth having scraps of fleets doesnt break this as a number becuase when reach was considered lost human ships that could escape would have done so to regroup or defend earth.
@@Akbar_and_Shaa In First Strike, it is mentioned only 20 ships survived to regroup at Earth. The 60% figure *must* be false due to the greater number of ships at Earth after the Fall. If 60% had been committed and lost, then there shouldn't be a fleet at Earth that could hold a candle to what was deployed at Reach; and yet, we see dozens of cruisers and hundreds of frigates at Earth in numbers Reach could only dream of. ONI took advantage of Reach being found in an attempt to draw out a Class-5 Flagship for Red Flag's S-IIs to capture. Reach was left on it's own to draw in as many high profile Covenant ships as possible to give RED FLAG a target rich environment so that it's success might bring about a negotiated peace with the Covenant. (Personally, I consider this to be a terrible gambit. So many irreplaceable assets sacrificed for a shot in the dark that led to nothing.)
@@Genesis50000 The 3 to 1 figure is a variable, not a constant. UNSC commanders like Keyes, Stanforth and Patterson don't obey this "rule", as seen at Sigma Octanus IV, Reach, and Onyx.
My rebuttal involves looking at the list of UNSC colonies on Halopedia, which I consider a verified source. I intend to classify the colonies listed as: Glassed-(UNSC naval defeat), Attacked-(UNSC naval victory), Untouched-(The colony was never attacked), and Unknown-(Information about a colony's status is unavailable).
The point of this is find the ratio of glassed colonies to surviving worlds and thereby estimate the UNSC's remaining power projection capability. The results of my findings are as follows:
Glassed:64
Attacked:36
Untouched:52
Unknown:6
The number of attacked worlds indicates that the UNSC had a 1 in 3 chance of winning a naval engagement against the Covenant. Also, it's obvious the total of these listings only adds up to 158 colonies, so I'd like to multiply these figures by a factor of 6 so that the ratios can be extrapolated to the 800+ to 1000+ colonies the UNSC/UEG is stated to have in the 2500s. Now that the totals are closer to representing all human worlds, the figures would be:
Glassed:384
Attacked:216
Untouched:312
Unknown:36
This gives us the conclusion that in 27 years of genocide, the Covenant haven't been able to eliminate half of humanity yet. With this to go off of, we can conclude that the UNSC has too many worlds left to defend to bother sending 60% of the entire Navy to defend a single system. That being said, reinforcements *could* have been sent to prevent the Fall, had Reach not been left on it's own so that RED FLAG could have a higher chance of success.
Oh, quick ask, what does TLDR mean? I've seen it used, but have never thought to ask what it meant.
@Augment_Failure it is possible if the remaining 40 percent are recalled to earth when its attacked since its literally the last stand. Moreover if you site the first strike youd know that reach the game explicitly states 60 percent of unsc forces and game events and statements are higher in tier of canon. But even if it werent you can still have those ships at earth and just say its the last 40 percent plus what escaped reach when it fell.
Halo Reach was my second Halo game
8:25 Reminds me of an image I've seen taken from a Guardians of the Galaxy comic (no I don't know the exact issue) where you see a few characters (including Rocket Racoon) with fancy space guns that are just straight up ships from Halo.
At least it's not as bad as that time someone made a Venom comic and had directly imported 3d models of Tau Devilfish as alien ships.
Grafton is cool and all but don’t forget that the UNSC Aegis Fate was there with it and then proceeded to survive Reach and be there for the Ark portal activation in Halo 3
The second frigate with Grafton during Tip of the Spear was the Saratoga, not Aegis Fate.
"Don't forget Reach or some shit"
-Me, 2024
Something funny: at 11:37 Jorge doesn't actually throw you far enough to clear the ship, and you can see in the cutscene before the third-person switch that Six just slids those last few feet on their back.
Planet Reach is straight up referred to as The Fortress World.
Holy hell! Halsey is basically Astarte and Erda combined. (Technically the other way round) The “humanity’s next evolution” not totally meant to kill humans and only became heroes because aliens happened to show up.
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I just thought of this, but imagine the covenant being in 40k and them doing a reach to some big chapter named world. battle would be beyond epic
I wonder how the nations of New Eden from Eve Online would fair against the Covenant. They have some really really big ships and they plenty of them with big populations. I think a few Capsuleer fleets with a Titan or three defending Reach they may be able to make Thel'Vadam's assault fleet in Reach sweat alot because it would be a heavy challenge and would have to resort to indepth strageies and tactics to fight the present Capsuleers.
A Supreme Commander ACU should be able to defend the planetary ground from the Covenant pretty well with overwhelming industrial output and spawning endless defenses.
dude you should read the book its fantastic
Five months into the war the knew was disclosed that we were at war
So when reach was going on all of humanity knew the human covenant war was going on
Just wanted to correct you
The general population of humanity had known about the war for about 25 years by the time Reach fell, they very much knew the war was happening
It was Kats' death that really made us realize these Ultimate Super Soliders are not invincible like they are portrayed through the other games with Master Chief.
8:26 I remember this game I played a while ago called dreadnought, which was basically a team-based pvp game using ships, and there’s legit ships in that game that are USC ships, guns with engines
The general population knew about the war and that they were loosing they just didn't know just how bad it actually was.
YES I WAS HOPING FOR THIS VID
In my opinion reach was pasicly what you would get if you mix cadia and mars from 40k into one extremely important to close to earth for comfort and the most heavely fortified planet that wasnt earth itself.
Aliens that would explain the National Guard presence in New York😂
Recently play the entire Halo series with a friend and it was his first time ever and we did it in release order he had gotten interest by watching the show which is absolutely garbage when she came to realize. So we were already completed three games by the time we got to reach and when the mission Lone Wolf came up I did minimal talking and right when I knew I was about to die I told him goodbye it had been a pleasure serving with him and then I muted my mic for the entirety until he died. I finally unmuted once we got back to the MCC menu and he was an absolute shock. One he couldn't understand why the show after playing four games now was so horrible and two he didn't realize how almost almost perfect game could actually be. And he spent hundreds of thousands of hours playing video games as he does it for a living and he said that he has never played anything remotely close to Halo 1 through 3 and Halo Reach
It's the weekend boss
the "one good thing" ONI did IMO would be hiring Sadie to be Vergil's handler
The Covenant didn't come through the Space Border so they are illegal alien😂
CREEK BROKE BEFORE THE DIVERS DID
Remember Reach
UNSC ships look like guns.
Well they are guns. UNSC ships are basically mac guns first, space ships second.
The slipspace rupture detected spam is top 10 "humanity is boned" sci fi moments, along with caprica's nuking, battle of the line, kalsim's extermination fleet breaking the venlil flank, and choose 6 more.
yo, I understand that 3rd reference!
As you should.
@@janehrahan5116 I did not expect to see a Nature of Predators reference at all. I've only found it like a month ago by myself and have never heard of it before. Good read.
Didn't expect blue warcrime turkey here XD
Wait, I see a cat in the background!
00:13 me too
The Covenant suck at astrology. Can't even find human worlds without a map or blind luck.
Eh?
@@Azorees-oj5zr Current astronomical knowledge can detect not only distant planets and whatnot. But also their chemical composition.
It should stand to reason with the Covenant advance technology. They should detect distant human worlds with signals showing everywhere. Internet, radios, etc. Yet somehow the Covenant are blind.
It gets brought up briefly in some of the side material. To quote the character in question, when talking about signal interception of Covenant communiques…
“Space… is big. Very, VERY big. We need to be in the right place at the right time to get anything.”
@@Tinandel And how about ground intelligence like family photos, school books etc?. I mean there must be millions of tourists going around UNSC space. Covenant sure suck at gathering them. Or they just burn everything else and hope to find the rest.
@@dariustiapula They don't even need that, just have a small of fast ships jump from system to system to check if someone's there.
They did know, the war was made public 6 months into the first year of it, they made it public alongside the Spartans because Draco III happened (a legit massacre with Covenant let to hunt and eat everyone or just have fun and whatnot as a Prophet war experiment, the entire planet was eaten and slaughtered), and the leadership was like "Yeah, this one can't be hidden" and decided to deploy THE ENTIRETY of the available Spartan-IIs after hammering the weak stationed Covie orbital support, leaving them stranded. Then the Spartans and support came down and support RECORDED EVERYTHING, showing the Spartans practically retaking a planet by themselves and using the footage as a rally propaganda to enlist and fight the Covenant. They also made fake background careers for the Spartans as Marines who rose quickly and gave themselves for the S-II experiments and to hide the "kidnapping and indoctrionation of 150 candidates as kids" bit.
The ONI and the UNSC made a heavy censorship effort to keep the facade of humanity and the Covenant more or less inflicting equally devastating loses on each engagement but it completely fell apart when Earth was found by the Covenant at the start of Halo 2. This is well known as the people of Earth really believed that despite Reach falling, there was still hope. Only for the illusion to completely fall apart once a metric ton of carriers came into orbit after a massive space battle between the remaining human vessels ready to engage in the Sol System and the nonstop arrivals of Covenant ships completely left the humans with almost no orbital or space faring support of any kind.
The only ones who kinda managed to hold out were some rebel worlds that completely shut themselves and their telecommunications off after most of the outer colonies under UEG rule and some of the free colonies also fell. The Covenant never found them. And now that the war is over many of them are buying Covie tier or makeshift new era alien tech from ethnical origin to create massive nets of AA batteries with beyond atmospherical effective range on a planetary defense system scale to stop any sort of funny invader, be it human or alien, from trying to threaten the planets. Most of their hardware is being bought from Jackal traders, the race in halo that is space pirates by pure genetics and evolution.
The only thing that interprets the Banished being as powerful as the Covenant is kinda crappy wording by an AI (or the writers morelike), otherwise non, the Banished are nowhere near Covenant levels of powerful, just a bit more flexible. Also the Banished for the most part actively avoid UNSC attention, but good luck with that post-Infinite.
The Banished ambushed the Infinity. They got the UNSCs attention.
And Atriox failed to kill Master Chief. Which is very bad news for them.
Dont forget Reach, or some shit
5:15 Oni created the spartan 2s and that specifically Master Chief is the only reason humanity survived morality be damned
Do the fan animated short film "Remember"
14:35 eveyone knew about the war. they have been fighting for 30 years and lost most of their colonies at this point. not something that can be kept secret and no reason to anymore.
In hindsight, ONI did do one "good" thing. They greenlit the SPARTAN project.
‘Good’ in this case means competent. Kidnapping children and turning them into child supersoldiers (John-117 was only 15 when the Covenant began their invasion) is not ‘good’.
The Terran empire from startrek would reck 40k.
I fucking hate xenos.
F Gorge
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And oh. Finally someone covers this. And the epicness. All the spartan II’s except blue team and a few others died. No. No Spartan iii’s existed.yet. No matter what is said. Was all Spartan II’s s at this point.
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@14:50 No it was that people didn’t know just HOW bad the war was going. The general populace knew we were at war but no idea that we had lost so many already or just outclassed we were.
Remember Reach